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SargeMcCluck
15 Apr 2011, 19:35
I pay for 100/10 and seem to get more like 80/50. I'm very content though.

I'll miss this when I move back to the UK. I know Virgin offer a 100/10 package but I'm sure it'll be awful, and unlike Bahnhof, Virgin are not exactly known for wanting to protect your privacy...

SomePerson
15 Apr 2011, 22:38
Wifi in the UCLA Engineering Building. In the apartment I think I'm at 3 Mb nominal, usually 1 or 2.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1254061667.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

edit: But I practically live in this building, so I use this connection at least as much as my apartment connection.

Slick
16 Apr 2011, 05:52
Wow... this place looks the same last time I was here.
Hope ya'll are doing well. :)

Akuryou13
16 Apr 2011, 06:40
Wow... this place looks the same last time I was here.
Hope ya'll are doing well. :)eh. same old boring T17 forum. maybe one day we'll get some life back in here....

SupSuper
16 Apr 2011, 11:01
Wow... this place looks the same last time I was here.
Hope ya'll are doing well. :)
It's just not the same without you. :(

Alien King
16 Apr 2011, 13:06
God dammit!
I didn't need this 2 weeks before a bunch of exams!

Xenoton
Population: 234,026
Age: 55

Finances are stable and I'm able to buy bigger things now without taking out a loan.
Started in 1950 because I didn't want to wait forever before getting good stuff. Also started with 50k so I could build something without taking out several loans.
Slightly concerned about how long the two Nuclear Power plants I have are going to last and it's still a while before Fusion comes along.
Need more peoples!

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1166/xenoton20apr200532789.jpg
http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/3435/xenoton20apr200532774.jpg

Zero72
16 Apr 2011, 19:21
That is a handsome-ass city.

Who's that fathead in all your avatars, by the way? It's starting to freak me out.

Paul.Power
16 Apr 2011, 19:42
Who's that fathead in all your avatars, by the way? It's starting to freak me out.Tell me about it.

Alien King
16 Apr 2011, 20:32
It's a Zergling (http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zergling).
I was going to replace it with a Baneling icon when I unlocked it on SC2, but I never got round to winning 50 ranked matches as Zerg.

MtlAngelus
16 Apr 2011, 21:56
I think he's talking about this fathead:

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

But it's a secret avatar, I'm not sure I can divulge the information.

Melon
16 Apr 2011, 22:36
Who's that fathead in all your avatars, by the way? It's starting to freak me out.
I'd like to know this too. I have no idea who this guy is.

Alien King
16 Apr 2011, 22:58
Of course...

Akuryou13
17 Apr 2011, 04:07
I'd like to know this too. I have no idea who this guy is.I'm glad I'm not the only one confused.

philby4000
17 Apr 2011, 04:19
Honestly people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYpcyfYQz2Q

This should explain all.

Xinos
17 Apr 2011, 10:11
I don't like it. Not one bit.

Melon
17 Apr 2011, 12:57
Because my last exam (well, until September) is on the 19th I thought I'd treat myself and get Portal 2. Will anyone else here be playing it on Steam? I thought it might be cool to go through the co-op with someone who wasn't a completely random internet stranger.

EDIT: I'm from the UK, so I can only do evenings on weekdays with other UK players.

Alien King
17 Apr 2011, 13:39
I would get it, but doing so would almost certainly cause me to fail my four exams on the 27/8th and I need to be looking at 2:1 level at the end of this year.

Akuryou13
17 Apr 2011, 14:47
Because my last exam (well, until September) is on the 19th I thought I'd treat myself and get Portal 2. Will anyone else here be playing it on Steam? I thought it might be cool to go through the co-op with someone who wasn't a completely random internet stranger.

EDIT: I'm from the UK, so I can only do evenings on weekdays with other UK players.I could toss my hat in with you on your own time frame, but only a couple days of the week due to school/work combinations.

MrBunsy
17 Apr 2011, 19:45
I'd be up for it, I'm getting it as my reward in the evenings for working in the day. My dissertation's due in on 4th May and isn't quite finished yet :P

SupSuper
17 Apr 2011, 21:46
I'm game.

Zero72
18 Apr 2011, 15:15
Your order with Level Up Studios has been placed!

You gained 86 XP!
Your level has increased to 26!
HP +3
MP +2
Strength +1
Agility +2
Charisma +99

Haha, awesome (http://www.levelupstudios.com/a-link-to-the-future).

Akuryou13
18 Apr 2011, 18:08
Haha, awesome (http://www.levelupstudios.com/a-link-to-the-future).ahahaha! that shirt, and that order confirmation are both equally amazing!

Melon
19 Apr 2011, 06:47
So in Portal 2 you can customise your co-op robots with hats. There's even a shop to buy them with real life cash. I find this amusing.

bonz
19 Apr 2011, 10:33
So in Portal 2 you can customise your co-op robots with hats. There's even a shop to buy them with real life cash. I find this amusing.
Also, several hats are imported from your TF2 backpack.

SupSuper
19 Apr 2011, 10:45
So in Portal 2 you can customise your co-op robots with hats. There's even a shop to buy them with real life cash. I find this amusing.Like Valve would give up infinite money.

Hats are the future of marketing.

Paul.Power
19 Apr 2011, 11:24
Goddamned hats.

MrBunsy
19 Apr 2011, 12:15
So long as they don't let the TF2 team even touch Portal and ruin it....

Alien King
19 Apr 2011, 13:01
So in Portal 2 you can customise your co-op robots with hats. There's even a shop to buy them with real life cash. I find this amusing.

...

**** you Valve.

bonz
19 Apr 2011, 13:50
I have to say that the big, black mustaches for the robots look exceptionally snazzy. :D

Zero72
19 Apr 2011, 15:58
...

**** you Valve.Precisely.

Melon
19 Apr 2011, 19:13
All right! Exams done! It's Portal time!

*gets 1 Frame Per Second*

Hmmm.....

Fortunately my super high FPS config (i.e. 30 FPs) works, but now the game looks like tremendous ass. Still, 10 FPS and ugliness is better than nothing, right?

Xinos
19 Apr 2011, 20:19
Damnit, I tried to resist buying Portal 2.. with little success. :/

Melon
19 Apr 2011, 22:44
All right! Exams done! It's Portal time!

*gets 1 Frame Per Second*

Hmmm.....

Fortunately my super high FPS config (i.e. 30 FPs) works, but now the game looks like tremendous ass. Still, 10 FPS and ugliness is better than nothing, right?
Whoops! Not only did my cunning plan render everything in full brightness (which completely ruins certain parts of the game), all of the gels are completely invisible! That certainly makes things.... interesting.

SupSuper
19 Apr 2011, 23:28
So long as they don't let the TF2 team even touch Portal and ruin it....

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=5325&p=1 :p

Akuryou13
20 Apr 2011, 05:55
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=5325&p=1 :pthat blog post shall not be mentioned again. marketting hats to THAT extent is just getting tiring.

bonz
20 Apr 2011, 09:09
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=5325&p=1 :p
Hehehe!
Still, I find those guys funny. :)

Anyway, hats won't have such a major impact as they have on TF2.
After all, you're only playing multiplayer with one other person at a time, and it's also highly unlikely that you'll play the co-op campaign more than several times until it gets repetitive and boring.
Which means, actually buying and trading hats in Portal 2 is even more useless than in TF2.

That is, unless Valve either add a lot of new co-op maps/challenges or even some new game modes.
Co-op race comes to my mind there.
2 vs. 2 racing to finish a testing chamber faster then the other team.

Or capture the cube.
Trying to get the enemy companion cube through some maze-like, obstacle-riddled testing chambers to your base faster.

Zero72
20 Apr 2011, 15:10
That is, unless Valve either add a lot of new co-op maps/challenges or even some new game modes.Effort? Heh.

SupSuper
20 Apr 2011, 18:37
Effort? Heh.Don't worry, they'll just wait for the community to do it for them!

SargeMcCluck
20 Apr 2011, 21:19
I have a spare beta key for Age of Empires online if anyone is interested.

Zero72
23 Apr 2011, 05:48
The Mortal Kombat demo is seriously impressive shiznatch. It's exactly what the franchise needed -- incredibly high-production-value presentation featuring over-the-top gore of such magnitude that you actually notice it again, and a return to majorly oldschool gameplay, complete with the old every-character-has-the-same-uppercut-and-sweep-kick bit from the first 3 installments. The shortened Fatalities are pretty nice, too, more accessible to your average player instead of only being used by registered wizards, without being a neutered and flavorless wreck like they did in Armageddon. It's like both a reinvention and celebration of the real, oldschool original Mortal Kombat.

The X-Ray attacks are the real attention getter I think, though. They're these super-strong cutscene-style attacks where it'll show cutaway views of your unfortunate victim's skull shattering or organs being stabbed or whathaveyou. Like I said, over-the-top in a way that's just visceral and well-done enough to be awesome somehow. Some of them are shown off in the preview video they have up on the website (www.themortalkombat.com).

I sound like I'm advertising, but I'm just really impressed. I'm gonna have to get it. Crap.

MtlAngelus
23 Apr 2011, 05:54
Also Kratos on the PS3 version. :p

FutureWorm
23 Apr 2011, 08:07
right, so i'm thinking about buying a new graphics card for my pc. i currently have a 430w power supply; the card recommends a minimum of 450w. however, i checked the specs of my current power supply, and it does have sufficient amperage. is running it off my current power supply going to be an issue?

SomePerson
23 Apr 2011, 09:57
Well that would depend what all is running off it. Add up the power requirements of all your components, and if that's less than 430 you're good.

I'm pretty sure they put some margins in for the recommendation to make sure nobody can complain that they met requirements but it doesn't work. they want the requirements to be such that if you meet them, it will work no questions asked, and if you're below spec their asses are covered because they told you so.

FutureWorm
23 Apr 2011, 13:11
Well that would depend what all is running off it. Add up the power requirements of all your components, and if that's less than 430 you're good.

I'm pretty sure they put some margins in for the recommendation to make sure nobody can complain that they met requirements but it doesn't work. they want the requirements to be such that if you meet them, it will work no questions asked, and if you're below spec their asses are covered because they told you so.
sure, that makes sense. of course i don't have some riced out beast and i don't think i even have anything other than a graphics card and the processor on the 12v rail, so i shouldn't have an issue

Zero72
23 Apr 2011, 21:19
Also Kratos on the PS3 version. :pYeah, that's pretty cool. He was in the PSP Soul Calibur, too, but I think he'll be a much better fit in MK for staggeringly obvious reasons.

SupSuper
24 Apr 2011, 13:13
right, so i'm thinking about buying a new graphics card for my pc. i currently have a 430w power supply; the card recommends a minimum of 450w. however, i checked the specs of my current power supply, and it does have sufficient amperage. is running it off my current power supply going to be an issue?
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Squirminator2k
24 Apr 2011, 20:11
I really like Mortal Kombat.

That is all.

Zero72
25 Apr 2011, 00:08
I really like Mortal Kombat.

That is all.Great. Now I bought it. I hope you're happy.

Squirminator2k
25 Apr 2011, 04:29
Which system did you get it for? If you say PS3 you are dead to me.

Zero72
25 Apr 2011, 05:20
I'm dead to you.

Squirminator2k
25 Apr 2011, 06:17
Dismember the corpse and send the widow a corsage.

MtlAngelus
25 Apr 2011, 16:22
But the PS3 version is the best version....

FutureWorm
25 Apr 2011, 16:35
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
thanks!!!!!!!

btw portal 2 owns

MrBunsy
25 Apr 2011, 20:12
btw portal 2 owns

The best bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbmu9YYoHA

Alien King
25 Apr 2011, 20:24
The best bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbmu9YYoHA

Spoiler Alert?

Akuryou13
25 Apr 2011, 22:11
Spoiler Alert?eh. who here hasn't played it through yet?

SargeMcCluck
25 Apr 2011, 22:19
I haven't.

FutureWorm
25 Apr 2011, 23:45
Whoops! Not only did my cunning plan render everything in full brightness (which completely ruins certain parts of the game), all of the gels are completely invisible! That certainly makes things.... interesting.
why not just buy a new graphics card?

Melon
25 Apr 2011, 23:58
why not just buy a new graphics card?
I've got a laptop with an integrated Intel chipset and it can't be changed. The alternative is to buy a whole new computer but I don't care enough to spend that much money. I only rarely buy new games anyway, most of my purchases are simple cheap indie games or more "casual" ones that tend to work well on all sorts of hardware. Who needs 3D?

FutureWorm
26 Apr 2011, 00:04
ah, bummer. i'd recommend looking around and seeing if you can find an old desktop for cheap or free. someone recently got rid of a computer. i took it off their hands for free, threw an nvidia 9600gt in it, and i was able to play portal 2 at 1280x1024 with all settings on high at a reasonably constant framerate

Xinos
26 Apr 2011, 07:49
Portal 2 indeed owns. Really want to get into co-op mode.. might get to today.

SargeMcCluck
26 Apr 2011, 09:11
I've got a laptop with an integrated Intel chipset and it can't be changed. The alternative is to buy a whole new computer but I don't care enough to spend that much money. I only rarely buy new games anyway, most of my purchases are simple cheap indie games or more "casual" ones that tend to work well on all sorts of hardware. Who needs 3D?

What card? The Portal 2 page says Intel cards are fine (ATI Radeon X800 or higher / NVIDIA GeForce 7600 or higher / Intel HD Graphics 2000 or higher).

MrBunsy
26 Apr 2011, 09:15
Spoiler Alert?

Figured it was fairly obviously a spoiler. Plus it made me laugh out loud for quite a long time.

Zero72
26 Apr 2011, 15:07
eh. who here hasn't played it through yet?Not me. words

MtlAngelus
26 Apr 2011, 17:13
What card? The Portal 2 page says Intel cards are fine (ATI Radeon X800 or higher / NVIDIA GeForce 7600 or higher / Intel HD Graphics 2000 or higher).

Well, considering he's already tried running it and it doesn't run particularly well at all, I'd venture a guess that his card is not one of the above... :p

SargeMcCluck
26 Apr 2011, 17:37
Well yes, but I've also played games that say Intel GMA cards work and they don't, and games that say Intel cards don't work yet they do. I wanted to see if Valve were accurate with their requirements or not.

(Because I have an Intel card and want to have an idea).

MtlAngelus
26 Apr 2011, 18:09
Ah ok. Makes sense. :o

Zero72
26 Apr 2011, 19:04
I want to get Portal 2 but I really shouldn't have already bought Mortal Kombat at this particular time. Maybe this weekend, though. If I survive this week, I'll feel like rewarding myself. Plus Munkee is waiting so we can do co-op science.

SargeMcCluck
26 Apr 2011, 19:45
Ah ok. Makes sense. :o

I probably should have explained it in my first post as your reply did make perfect sense to what I wrote. :o

thomasp
26 Apr 2011, 20:09
Here's something that should be useful with all this talk about Portal 2... we now have a spoiler tag!

Text to hide!

gives...

Text to hide!

Melon
26 Apr 2011, 20:59
What card? The Portal 2 page says Intel cards are fine (ATI Radeon X800 or higher / NVIDIA GeForce 7600 or higher / Intel HD Graphics 2000 or higher).
A Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset. It's basically designed to run your OS and movies and not much else. I didn't really buy this laptop for gaming anyway, but Source engine games are usually really scalable so they've never been much of a problem before. Portal 2 just seems to have way more eye-candy that's hard to disable than the older Source games.

SargeMcCluck
26 Apr 2011, 21:31
Aha. Okay.

Akuryou13
26 Apr 2011, 23:49
Here's something that should be useful with all this talk about Portal 2... we now have a spoiler tag!

Text to hide!

gives...

Text to hide!well it's about damn time

bonz
27 Apr 2011, 07:08
Here's something that should be useful with all this talk about Portal 2... we now have a spoiler tag!

Text to hide!

gives...

Text to hide!
Was it my report that made you activate this feature? :cool:
Nice, it hides the smileys too.
And it requires the push of a button, instead of a mouse-over.

You might as well announce it in the announcement thread for everyone to see.

MrBunsy
27 Apr 2011, 08:27
:) :(

thomasp
27 Apr 2011, 11:09
Good call, bonz! We are currently fine-tuning how spoilers appear in e-mail notifications though, as currently there's no indication that the spoiler tag is used.

MtlAngelus
27 Apr 2011, 11:18
I like turtles.

Muzer
27 Apr 2011, 12:24
Pretty neat - better-implemented than many other forums I could mention.

bonz
27 Apr 2011, 13:13
:) :(
23?
I wonder how many nested spoiler tags it needs to crash the server and get the feature removed.

MrBunsy
27 Apr 2011, 13:17
http://lukewallin.co.uk/images/raytrace/8.png

:D

thomasp
27 Apr 2011, 14:22
23?
I wonder how many nested spoiler tags it needs to crash the server and get the feature removed.
:rolleyes:

bonz
27 Apr 2011, 17:29
And now for something completely different...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1271104189.png

Xinos
27 Apr 2011, 17:58
I think it would be enough to allow one nested spoil tag. Also, very nice bonz!

Akuryou13
27 Apr 2011, 21:45
:eek: mind. blown.

I bow in envy of your mighty e-peen.

bonz
27 Apr 2011, 21:58
And now for the enviers...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1271104189.png
Really the best implementation of a spoiler tag feature I've so far.

Zero72
27 Apr 2011, 23:20
Mortal Kombat: Exploring the little-documented chapter of Kratos' life where he teams up with a cyborg to kill a movie star.

bloopy
28 Apr 2011, 01:05
And now for something completely different...
*Tut tut* http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39608

SupSuper
28 Apr 2011, 09:40
Well yes, but I've also played games that say Intel GMA cards work and they don't, and games that say Intel cards don't work yet they do. I wanted to see if Valve were accurate with their requirements or not.

(Because I have an Intel card and want to have an idea).
To be fair Intel cards are the most fickle pieces of ****. :p

SargeMcCluck
28 Apr 2011, 10:44
To be fair Intel cards are the most fickle pieces of ****. :p

Mine's run everything I've thrown at it except for Magicka and Burn Zombie, Burn!

Akuryou13
29 Apr 2011, 04:20
facebook is made of idiots and it's spreading to other places. alternately, I'm missing something entirely and no one has been able to explain to me what that is exactly.

6÷2(1+2)=?

basic math. not difficult. the majority of people I've seen thus far are saying it's 9. I can't get anything but 1. some of you guys are mathematicians or damn near enough. please explain to me if I'm missing something here.

MtlAngelus
29 Apr 2011, 04:36
I'm pretty sure the anser is nine. That's basically 6/2*3, and you perform operations left to right, so the division is done first, then the multiplication, so it's 6/2*3=3*3=9.

MrBunsy
29 Apr 2011, 08:46
If you treat ÷ as mod you get 0, like I did at first glance :P

It's because of the order of operations, brackets first, then multiply and divide from left to right. It's basically a trick question anyway, if you were actually trying to write it down properly you'd make it damn clear what you wanted and write it as (6/2)*(1+2).

Edit: heh, if you pop it into google, that's the first thing google calculator does!

SupSuper
29 Apr 2011, 09:55
facebook is made of idiots and it's spreading to other places. alternately, I'm missing something entirely and no one has been able to explain to me what that is exactly.

6÷2(1+2)=?

basic math. not difficult. the majority of people I've seen thus far are saying it's 9. I can't get anything but 1. some of you guys are mathematicians or damn near enough. please explain to me if I'm missing something here.
6÷2(1+2)=
6÷2×(1+2)=
6÷2×3=
3×3=
9

Alternatively (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%C3%B72%281%2B2%29).

When in doubt, always remember:
Achievement Unlocked: Massive Elongated Fool

Melon
29 Apr 2011, 10:08
Remember BODMAS, it's the order of operations

Brackets
Other
Divide
Multiply
Add
Subtract

Also I stuck it into my calculator exactly as Aku wrote it and it gave me 1. Huh.

SargeMcCluck
29 Apr 2011, 11:39
Bizarrely so does mine (a casio graphicy one).

6/2(1+2) gives 1, 6/2*(1+2) gives 9. I can only assume that on the calculator the 2 in "2(1+2)" is seen as part of the bracket, so it's 6 / (2*(1+2)) = 6/6 = 1.

Alien King
29 Apr 2011, 12:29
facebook is made of idiots and it's spreading to other places. alternately, I'm missing something entirely and no one has been able to explain to me what that is exactly.

6÷2(1+2)=?

basic math. not difficult. the majority of people I've seen thus far are saying it's 9. I can't get anything but 1. some of you guys are mathematicians or damn near enough. please explain to me if I'm missing something here.

The trouble is, the order is somewhat ambiguous*. I actually hate any use of the ÷ operator in arithmetic.
6 / 2(1+2) = 6/6 = 1
(6 /2) (1+2) = (3)(3) = 9

*I don't think it's really ambiguous. If it read 6÷2×(1+2) = ? then it'd be bad.


Bizarrely so does mine (a casio graphicy one).

6/2(1+2) gives 1, 6/2*(1+2) gives 9. I can only assume that on the calculator the 2 in "2(1+2)" is seen as part of the bracket, so it's 6 / (2*(1+2)) = 6/6 = 1.

The Casio fx-9750G PLUS (graphical calc) gives 1.
The Casio fx-83ES (regular scientific) gives 9.

Melon
29 Apr 2011, 12:52
The Casio fx-9750G PLUS (graphical calc) gives 1.
The Casio fx-83ES (regular scientific) gives 9.
For reference my calculator giving 1 is a Casio fx-85GT PLUS (a scientific calc)

Dammit CASIO at least be consistent!

MrBunsy
29 Apr 2011, 13:57
My fx-85ES (ahaha!) gives 9 too.

bonz
29 Apr 2011, 22:12
This is obviously a trick question.
The problem is, that the ÷ symbol when used to write down formulas in a single line will produce this paradox when not rectified by the use of additional brackets, because there is no standardized rule if the division or the implied multiplication is to be done first.
AFAIK, the "left before right" rule isn't international.

When notating formulas, you should always use fractions for divisions.

SargeMcCluck
29 Apr 2011, 23:48
The Casio fx-9750G PLUS (graphical calc) gives 1.

That's the exact one I have.

Also, in the UK we use the BODMAS rule that Melon mentioned further up. I've never heard of left-to-right before (that's just what children use before they learn BODMAS!)

Melon
30 Apr 2011, 00:01
Because I'm a boring geek I checked wikipedia for the order of mathematical operations and apparently the division and multiplication rules don't come one after the other but are the same order of importance. So it can be BODMAS or BOMDAS (and add and subtract are similartly interchangable).

I don't quite get how that works but I'm surprised that I did an entire math degree and never knew that. Today I learned something that nobody else will care about, hooray!

SupSuper
30 Apr 2011, 01:18
Also, in the UK we use the BODMAS rule that Melon mentioned further up. I've never heard of left-to-right before (that's just what children use before they learn BODMAS!)
Left-to-right is used to break stalemates, like if you have multiple brackets you start with the left-most innermost one, etc.

Also I've always learned that multiplication and division / addition and subtraction are at the same levels (since they're just inverses of one another), since you could write 1+2+3 or 1--2+3 or 1+2--3 and they should all result the same.

Alien King
30 Apr 2011, 03:02
Let * be some binary operator. * is said to be associative if:
(a*b)*c = a*(b*c)
Note that addition and multiplication are associative - order doesn't matter.

Division and Subtraction are non-associative operators.
That is, (a-b)-c ≠ a-(b-c) (and similarly for division).
(It's for this reason we tend to think of subtraction as the addition of a negative number, since addition is associative and commutative (a+b=b+a) whereas subtraction is not, similarly for division and the multiplication of an inverse).

In a strict sense, a-b-c isn't well defined (or at least isn't unique), but by convention subtraction is said to be "left-associative" and so we start with the left side (and say a-b-c = (a-b)-c) and similarly for division.
Not all non-associative operations are treated as such though. Exponentation is done in the reverse order (right to left).
i.e. a^b^c = a^(b^c).


Now the issue in our original problem (a÷b×c) isn't really covered by this.
There is not, to my knowledge, a strict order in how you perform multiplication and division. If we treat division as the multiplication of a reciprocal then we're liable to read the above as:
a×1/b×c = (a×c)÷b which corresponds to (6×3)÷2 = 9.
But when you write the problem as a÷bc, it's very natural to read this as a÷(b×c) which is were all the 1 answers come from.

SargeMcCluck
30 Apr 2011, 10:21
Left-to-right is used to break stalemates, like if you have multiple brackets you start with the left-most innermost one, etc.

Also I've always learned that multiplication and division / addition and subtraction are at the same levels (since they're just inverses of one another), since you could write 1+2+3 or 1--2+3 or 1+2--3 and they should all result the same.

Yeah, it could be BO(DorM)(AorS) but that's just dumb to write.

Also, when would you use left-to-right with brackets? If you had say

3*(2+4*(5+4)*(6+2*(5*4))*(3*4)*2)


3*(2+4*(5+4)*(6+2*(5*4))*(3*4)*2)
3*(2+4*(5+4)*(6+2*20)*(3*4)*2)

3*(2+4*(5+4)*(6+2*20)*(3*4)*2)
3*(2+4*(5+4)*(6+40)*(3*4)*2)
3*(2+4*(5+4)*46*(3*4)*2)

3*(2+4*(5+4)*46*(3*4)*2)
3*(2+4*(5+4)*46*12*2)

3*(2+4*(5+4)*46*12*2)
3*(2+4*9*46*12*2)

3*(2+4*9*46*12*2)
3*(2+39744)
3*39746

3*39746
119238

I intentionally worked right-to-left whenever I could. The point is, you have to resolve all brackets (or powers of, or divisions, or whatever) indepedently before you start merging them together - e.g. x^2+y^2 - doesn't matter left-to-right or right-to-left because either way you do both powers before the addition - and in the case of x*y*z/a - then there's ambiguity in the order but only because it makes zero difference what order you do it in.

As for brackets, you do the innermost first, of course. Each bracket has a new BODMAS rule from the beginning.



What is interesting though, is it seems like graphical calculators do the DM of BODMAS as so:
All division > implied multiplication > outright multiplication
e.g. 6/2 > 2x > 2*4

http://alex.digitalpies.com/images/mathses.png for the original equation in MS Maths, btw. It agrees with 9.

Alien King
30 Apr 2011, 11:18
Because brackets are always nested you start with the inner-most brackets first. They aren't an operator and it doesn't matter in which order you apply past that - they simply notate what should be done before anything else.

http://alex.digitalpies.com/images/mathses.png for the original equation in MS Maths, btw. It agrees with 9.

There is no ambiguity in the order in that expression. That explicitly states (6(2+1)) / 2.

SargeMcCluck
30 Apr 2011, 13:15
Because brackets are always nested you start with the inner-most brackets first. They aren't an operator and it doesn't matter in which order you apply past that - they simply notate what should be done before anything else.



There is no ambiguity in the order in that expression. That explicitly states (6(2+1)) / 2.

I typed in 6÷2(1+2) (In fact, I actually copy/pasted it) and it interpreted it like that (Which I agree is correct).

Akuryou13
30 Apr 2011, 17:14
I typed in 6÷2(1+2) (In fact, I actually copy/pasted it) and it interpreted it like that (Which I agree is correct).but therein lies the issue. if you toss an extra set of parenthesis around any part of the problem, the order instantly becomes clear. but without it, both 1 and 9 methods are easily seen. even some of the calculators here are making the mistake of solving it to 1. that should say something about the presentation.

Zero72
30 Apr 2011, 18:13
12

twelve

bonz
30 Apr 2011, 19:29
12

twelve
The problem here is faulty eyesight.

FutureWorm
1 May 2011, 09:36
Remember BODMAS, it's the order of operations

Brackets
Other
Divide
Multiply
Add
Subtract

Also I stuck it into my calculator exactly as Aku wrote it and it gave me 1. Huh.
i always learned it as pemdas (parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction)

i'm gay

SomePerson
2 May 2011, 05:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

Only took 10 years, but very fitting.

Akuryou13
2 May 2011, 05:36
I love how my facebook feed has about 30 posts on it about osama, and I don't even have that many FB friends....

SargeMcCluck
2 May 2011, 10:01
My feed has one mention, and it's somebody saying (translated from Swedish) "Now begins the spam about the USA's killing of Obama".

Hah!

thomasp
2 May 2011, 10:02
The joys of being British... nothing about bin Laden on my feed, although Royal Wedding statuses have only just died down.

SargeMcCluck
2 May 2011, 10:12
I didn't have any wedding updates either, and I'm British.

Then again, I've got an intentionally small list of Facebook friends and most of them don't do mindless updates.

Paul.Power
2 May 2011, 14:33
So the other day, this happened to me:

http://i.imgur.com/kS1Az.jpg

Guess this is why they call it Patience, huh :p.

MtlAngelus
2 May 2011, 15:37
That can still be solved, can't it?

Paul.Power
2 May 2011, 15:52
That can still be solved, can't it?Maaaaybe?

*checks*

Dammit. I think you might be able to shuffle it around enough to get Diamonds and Spades up to the level where you can clear the right-hand column, so yeah. Balls.

Xinos
2 May 2011, 19:08
I.. havn't checked my facebook wall in weeks :p
FB's only real function is to get info about drinking events.

Paul.Power
2 May 2011, 20:58
I.. havn't checked my facebook wall in weeks :p
FB's only real function is to get info about drinking events.
Facebook has a function??

Akuryou13
2 May 2011, 21:38
Facebook has a function??well it lets me talk to friends from high school like I talk to you lot here. so it has at least as much a function as these forums :p

Alien King
2 May 2011, 21:48
Facebook has a function??

To make Zuckerberg ridiculously rich?

philby4000
2 May 2011, 21:54
To make Zuckerberg ridiculously rich?

There isn't much you can do that doesn't somehow contribute to some guy being ludicrously wealthy.

SupSuper
2 May 2011, 23:20
Facebook has a function??It's a dedicated farming platform.

thomasp
3 May 2011, 08:05
It's a dedicated farming platform.
That's still alive??

bonz
3 May 2011, 12:03
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2922/sonymakebelieve.gif

Zero72
10 May 2011, 15:56
Portal 2 is pretty much the best thing since air.

SupSuper
10 May 2011, 17:22
Air is overrated.

Zero72
12 May 2011, 16:53
I made a guild in Spiral Knights.

It is Stairs Club.

Only cool dudes who hang around on the stairs with us will be invited.

:cool:

MtlAngelus
18 May 2011, 01:58
I HEREBY DECLARE FOR THE SECOD TIME ON THIS DAY TUESDAY THE SEVENTEEN OF MAY OF 2011 THAT MANGO IS THE BESTEST, GREATEST, MOST DELICIOUS FRUIT TO EVER HAVE EXISTED ON THIS PITIFUL PLANET.

If you disagree I hereby declare that your tastebuds are non-functional. Or you just have never had a good mango.

GOOD DAY, SIRS.

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/30404/original/1260585284155.png

philby4000
18 May 2011, 03:57
Hell yeah I eat mangos all the time they are delish.

Akuryou13
18 May 2011, 14:07
I have never had a mango that was not from wal mart.

Alien King
18 May 2011, 14:12
Just don't suggest putting it on Pizzas.
When off pizzas, yeah it's pretty good.

Akuryou13
18 May 2011, 17:04
Just don't suggest putting it on Pizzas.
When off pizzas, yeah it's pretty good.excuse me while I bathe in the irony.

Xinos
18 May 2011, 20:04
I've never had a good mango then. The ones I've tried tasted of tree sap. Peaches can be amazing though.

thomasp
18 May 2011, 20:44
Mmmmmm, peach pizza!

Akuryou13
18 May 2011, 21:22
I've never had a good mango then. The ones I've tried tasted of tree sap. Peaches can be amazing though.I live in the peach capital of my state. I can assure you all. peaches CAN be amazing.

Mmmmmm, peach pizza!go choke on a pepperoni.

thomasp
18 May 2011, 21:23
I live in the peach capital of my state. I can assure you all. peaches CAN be amazing.

go choke on a pepperoni.
http://www.my-mamas-best-recipes.com/fruit-dessert-pizza.html

:p

Yes, I know, it's just an overgrown cookie...

Melon
18 May 2011, 21:31
MANGO MANGO MANGO MANGO MANGO MANGOOOOOOOOO (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/mango/)

Akuryou13
18 May 2011, 21:32
http://www.my-mamas-best-recipes.com/fruit-dessert-pizza.html

:p

Yes, I know, it's just an overgrown cookie...ok that? that is not a pizza. also? that looks delicious in more ways than the english language has words to describe it.

philby4000
18 May 2011, 22:52
I've actually had a fruit pizza, but it was basically a pizza base covered in sliced fuit and glazed with honey.

Also this is the best song about peaches. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcohzJvviQ)

bloopy
18 May 2011, 23:44
http://www.my-mamas-best-recipes.com/fruit-dessert-pizza.html

:p

Yes, I know, it's just an overgrown cookie...
I'd rather have that on a pizza base than a cookie dough base. :p

Zero72
19 May 2011, 16:48
Terraria, or as I like to call it, Also Minecraft Except 2D So Obviously Different, really strikes me as a wildly overrated thing. The grappling hooks look fun to me but everything else just looks either clumsy or an outright pain in the ass. I can't figure out why it's being treated as the greatest thing since both air and boobs.

philby4000
19 May 2011, 18:02
Minecraft was 'inspired' by Infinimier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxyvQ2m6y0&feature=related) so it's kind of unfair to blast a game for being 'inspired' by Minecraft.

I guess Terraria is more combat oriented, or something? Your character can be upgraded, so there's some metroid style elements.

I dunno, maybe in a year it'll have been updated into something that I'd want to play myself.

Akuryou13
19 May 2011, 20:20
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/

this is possibly the most fantastic thing that has ever existed.

bonz
19 May 2011, 22:39
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/

this is possibly the most fantastic thing that has ever existed.
Good.
We atheists would need every piece of food available, if Armageddon hits and the face of the Earth is devastated. :rolleyes:

I'd have my kitty burger with mango.
:D

SupSuper
19 May 2011, 23:52
Terraria, or as I like to call it, Also Minecraft Except 2D So Obviously Different, really strikes me as a wildly overrated thing. The grappling hooks look fun to me but everything else just looks either clumsy or an outright pain in the ass. I can't figure out why it's being treated as the greatest thing since both air and boobs.
Well I feel the same way about Minecraft. Or, really, every other indy game.

The catch is people love:
1. Indy
2. RPG
3. Sandbox
It's brilliant!!!!!!!!!!111 :rolleyes:

http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/

this is possibly the most fantastic thing that has ever existed.
Now this is the real greatest thing.

Paul.Power
20 May 2011, 11:34
Terraria:

+ More gamelike, still a sandbox but closer to GTA than GMod, greater sense of progression to new areas.
+ More features, seems to have a smarter and more flexible design/programming philosophy. Greater sense of "functionality", less reliance on the modding community.
+ Can carry a character and their inventory over between singleplayer/multiplayer and different worlds and servers.

Minecraft:

+ More open world, focus very much on making your own entertainment - which, as our elders are always quick to remind us, can be a very good thing.
+ More scope for player creativity and doing "art for art's sake", easier to just mess around in.

Zero72
20 May 2011, 17:26
Minecraft was 'inspired' by Infinimier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxyvQ2m6y0&feature=related) so it's kind of unfair to blast a game for being 'inspired' by Minecraft.I see your point. I was there for Ifiniminer, though. Notch was just one of many who saw the enormous potential of the system that Infiniminer's creator didn't want to bother pursuing. :p

Xinos
20 May 2011, 18:01
I'm always skeptical of open world games, because so few ever manage to do it right. DF works great because it's still a very focused game despite the vast scale and jumbled assets/stats. I've never plaued adventure mode though. It's just really hard to make a huge world intrresting. Terratia looks like a fairly focused game though so It may very well be fun. But it looks really uggly :p (not beatiful like Dwarf Fortress!)

Zero72
27 May 2011, 20:55
Alchemy!

1x footlong chili dog
1x free wi-fi
=
1x Happy Zeor

Zero72
30 May 2011, 18:02
aw yeah (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495439082/9EC1773DA6B55D3D83A823FD284CD4294C089FB0/)

aw yeah (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495453714/34523616122C16883D6CA4518BBB859CEB2DD338/)

aaww yeeaahhh (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495452495/A238E89C5900CA28F8EC468602FEA843C8931250/)

AW YEAH (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495939463/88CB92234127D89B1E6E0DC7539B390C7BE268DE/)

AAAAAWWWWWW YEEEEAAAAHHHHH (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495460133/65B3D035DC77B7C0286C38FF7ACBCF761041898B/)

Xinos
30 May 2011, 19:02
Heh, this is pretty funny. The two guys that run the company I'm doing my internship at got interviewed by a Swedish 'newspaper'. Kotaku then runs google translate on it and makes it much more dramatic. Turns it into them accusing Square Enix of owing them lots of money which they never say in the original :p link (http://m.kotaku.com/5806511/bankrupted-studio-says-square+enix-demanded-code-by-fax-didnt-recognize-ffxii-screenshots). A case for GJAIF? If Square gets angry they could just point at the original article.. Although, the kotaku article is great, it gets Square fanboys angry and generates attention ;)

Here's the original.. original (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/article13094476.ab)

SupSuper
31 May 2011, 01:33
aw yeah (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495439082/9EC1773DA6B55D3D83A823FD284CD4294C089FB0/)

aw yeah (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495453714/34523616122C16883D6CA4518BBB859CEB2DD338/)

aaww yeeaahhh (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495452495/A238E89C5900CA28F8EC468602FEA843C8931250/)

AW YEAH (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495939463/88CB92234127D89B1E6E0DC7539B390C7BE268DE/)

AAAAAWWWWWW YEEEEAAAAHHHHH (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595812669495460133/65B3D035DC77B7C0286C38FF7ACBCF761041898B/)
awwwwwww yeaaaaah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_-Cq7NgkwQ)

philby4000
31 May 2011, 04:00
Heh, this is pretty funny. The two guys that run the company I'm doing my internship at got interviewed by a Swedish 'newspaper'. Kotaku then runs google translate on it and makes it much more dramatic. Turns it into them accusing Square Enix of owing them lots of money which they never say in the original :p link (http://m.kotaku.com/5806511/bankrupted-studio-says-square+enix-demanded-code-by-fax-didnt-recognize-ffxii-screenshots). A case for GJAIF? If Square gets angry they could just point at the original article.. Although, the kotaku article is great, it gets Square fanboys angry and generates attention ;)

Here's the original.. original (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/article13094476.ab)

You're doing an internship for the bionic comando guys? That's pretty cool.

Zero72
31 May 2011, 04:09
awwwwwww yeaaaaah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_-Cq7NgkwQ)

aaaawwww eeeehhhh

Zero72
1 Jun 2011, 17:15
Woo I have a static ip now and I can forward the ports and host the stuff

yaaaay

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

I will have to undo this to reconnect to the college network

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Vader
1 Jun 2011, 18:17
Do any of you play LEGO Universe?

If not, you should. Unless you dislike LEGO. Or MMOs.

It's a fun game and I love it and it's the main reason I've played so little else and spent so little time on this forum (which I should probably rectify because I like you lot).

Alien King
1 Jun 2011, 19:16
(which i should probably rectify because i like you lot).

^ _ ^

bonz
1 Jun 2011, 19:35
Do any of you play LEGO Universe?

If not, you should. Unless you dislike LEGO. Or MMOs.

It's a fun game and I love it and it's the main reason I've played so little else and spent so little time on this forum (which I should probably rectify because I like you lot).
Lego is for kids...




On a serious note, I do play Lego games like Star Wars Saga, Harry Potter and Indiana Jones with my fiancée.
We'll try Pirates of the Caribbean and Clone Wars too.

Xinos
1 Jun 2011, 19:43
This is the tale, of lego Captain Jack Sparrow... oh god get out of my mind!

bonz
1 Jun 2011, 19:45
I'm looking forward to the release of this for... my kids.
http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/5794-1.jpg

MtlAngelus
1 Jun 2011, 20:35
This is the tale, of lego Captain Jack Sparrow... oh god get out of my mind!

Roger that, let me try with another film...

philby4000
2 Jun 2011, 15:40
Welcome to the space olympics

Oh wait crap.

Zero72
2 Jun 2011, 17:06
SPACE SWORDS
(is totally canceled)

SupSuper
2 Jun 2011, 22:50
New internet
http://speedtest.net/result/1323984187.png

thomasp
3 Jun 2011, 08:33
New internet
http://speedtest.net/result/1323984187.png
I hate you :p I have dialup compared to that...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1324495843.png

Note how I'm slower than almost all of the UK...

SomePerson
3 Jun 2011, 20:50
aaaaaaaaaand here we go again :P

Zero72
3 Jun 2011, 21:31
my Speed is Over 9000!!!!!!! XD

Xinos
4 Jun 2011, 13:19
I discovered two player mode in Lemmings! Me and a friend were playing emulated snes version, but it's slightly broken. Can anybody recommend a better version for two player?
Problem with the snes version is that you can't reset levels or surrender. Both players need all their lemmings be cleared from the map before the game ends, including blocker lemmings. And there's no nuke button.
I had wasted all my bombs on suicide bombing my opponents bridges because I most of my lemmings had gone to his goal, and then I had no more bombs to remove my blocker lemmings, so the game was stuck and we had to reset the entire game.

Still, works great with two players. At first we just tried to sabotage each others progress, but it became really random who won. You always need to cross each others paths so trying to play cooperatively but still win (by not sabotaging too much) made the game more fun.

Edit: Maybe this should go into the dedicated Lemmings forum. But post outside OD? Blasphemy!

Zero72
5 Jun 2011, 06:18
Haha, I remember SNES Lemmings. I never played the 2-player too much though because of its really sabotagey nature, yeah.

SupSuper
6 Jun 2011, 00:54
What are you talking about, the sabotagey nature is the best part (http://freelanceastronauts.com/view.php?id=300).

Vader
9 Jun 2011, 11:53
I'm too tired.

edit:
OMFG WANT:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bandai-D-Arts-Rockman-Mega-Man-X-Full-Armor-Figure-/190540079966?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d12e35e#ht_500wt_1156

Zero72
10 Jun 2011, 01:20
OMFG WANT:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bandai-D-Arts-Rockman-Mega-Man-X-Full-Armor-Figure-/190540079966?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d12e35e#ht_500wt_1156
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Actually that price is much more reasonable than I would expect so far.

Paul.Power
12 Jun 2011, 10:40
I discovered two player mode in Lemmings! Me and a friend were playing emulated snes version, but it's slightly broken. Can anybody recommend a better version for two player?
Problem with the snes version is that you can't reset levels or surrender. Both players need all their lemmings be cleared from the map before the game ends, including blocker lemmings. And there's no nuke button.
I had wasted all my bombs on suicide bombing my opponents bridges because I most of my lemmings had gone to his goal, and then I had no more bombs to remove my blocker lemmings, so the game was stuck and we had to reset the entire game.

Still, works great with two players. At first we just tried to sabotage each others progress, but it became really random who won. You always need to cross each others paths so trying to play cooperatively but still win (by not sabotaging too much) made the game more fun.

Edit: Maybe this should go into the dedicated Lemmings forum. But post outside OD? Blasphemy!

I think there is a nuke button, but both players have to activate it at once - have both players hover over the blue/green boxes above the toolbar.

Blinx
15 Jun 2011, 15:20
*appears*

O_o

*disappears*

Zero72
19 Jun 2011, 17:10
so uh

how's it goin'

Akuryou13
7 Jul 2011, 08:06
I got into Google+

it's as interesting as it sounds, thus far, but I need more friends to really judge its ability to compete. anyone interested?

bonz
7 Jul 2011, 11:34
I got into Google+

it's as interesting as it sounds, thus far, but I need more friends to really judge its ability to compete. anyone interested?
Sure.http://bbbbbb

Akuryou13
7 Jul 2011, 17:49
Sure.http://bbbbbbannoyingly, the invitation period ended as of today. I'll toss you one next time, if I'm made aware of it in time.

Akuryou13
17 Jul 2011, 06:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOD1C67J0

who the hell is buying this toy!?

MtlAngelus
17 Jul 2011, 07:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fkHs3qNB9o&NR=1

WHERE CAN I BUY STOCK FOR THIS COMPANY.

I'm going to be rich!

Alien King
17 Jul 2011, 12:25
I think something in me has just died.

Zero72
24 Jul 2011, 04:06
Hey, if 9 people click on this (http://altitudegame.com/friend/737015), I can unlock a plane skin! Yaaaay also it really is a pretty fun little game for 5 bucks.

Squirminator2k
24 Jul 2011, 05:36
I clicked it. I demand a 12% cut of the plane skin.

Zero72
24 Jul 2011, 05:52
Alright, I mailed a 4-tile checkerboard pattern to you. Keep an eye out.

Edit: Wow, that worked out better than I thought, thanks for the clicks.

SargeMcCluck
26 Jul 2011, 21:59
New humble indie bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/

bonz
26 Jul 2011, 22:56
New humble indie bundle: http://www.humblebundle.com/
Purchased it for $5.30, which was $1 above average at the time.
For me that is €3.75 instead of €38.95 (not counting Cogs, which I already had), which is 90.4% less than the regular price on Steam.
(I blame that on Crayon Physics, which costs a whopping €17.99 on Steam. Pretty much for an indie game. )

Note:
You apparently don't get gift copies on Steam if you already have a game.

Also, like before, I distributed most my payment towards the Childs Play charity.

Akuryou13
27 Jul 2011, 00:19
Purchased it for $5.30, which was $1 above average at the time.
For me that is €3.75 instead of €38.95 (not counting Cogs, which I already had), which is 90.4% less than the regular price on Steam.
(I blame that on Crayon Physics, which costs a whopping €17.99 on Steam. Pretty much for an indie game. )

Note:
You apparently don't get gift copies on Steam if you already have a game.

Also, like before, I distributed most my payment towards the Childs Play charity.$5.40 for me, same $1 above deal. and my payment went equally distributed throughout. the devs may not be impoverished children, but they did put quite a bit of work into it.

I'm rather happy with this bundle! And Yet It Moves is fantastic, I'd almost purchased crayon physics previously, and VVVVVVVV I've been wanting forever.

SargeMcCluck
27 Jul 2011, 09:18
$7.50 for me. Already owned VVVVVV on Steam, bought Crayon Physics the day it was released, long before it was on Steam. The other three look fun though, and it's nice to have Crayon Physics on Steam.

SupSuper
27 Jul 2011, 15:54
$5.40 for me, same $1 above deal. and my payment went equally distributed throughout. the devs may not be impoverished children, but they did put quite a bit of work into it.

I'm rather happy with this bundle! And Yet It Moves is fantastic, I'd almost purchased crayon physics previously, and VVVVVVVV I've been wanting forever.$5.50 for me. :p Already had VVVVVVVV and Cogs but still seems pretty good.

SomePerson
28 Jul 2011, 08:15
Let's all get our e-wangs out and compare who paid what for the humble bundle 3... :rolleyes:

I might get it, though I haven't touched the first 2 I bought so I'm skeptical I'll ever actually have time

Zero72
4 Aug 2011, 17:36
forum bump

Akuryou13
4 Aug 2011, 20:14
lol, this place is depressingly boring.

thomasp
4 Aug 2011, 22:38
Yup, seems everyone's moved along :(

Zero72
5 Aug 2011, 01:35
Welp, I'm still sticking to whatever part of it is above water, at least until Vader and I destroy one another in a fateful ultimate duel.

GrimOswald
5 Aug 2011, 02:58
We must then take drastic action to restore life to this place! Get to it!

*Lays on the couch watching television*

MtlAngelus
5 Aug 2011, 06:55
Here's a picture of a frog.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/frog-1.jpg

SomePerson
5 Aug 2011, 08:23
I see your frog and raise you FIREFLIES

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1108/FirefliesStartrails_rosinski.jpg

edit: (img tag removed cause the picture was way bigger than expected... NASA's Astronomy picture of the day today)

thomasp
5 Aug 2011, 09:01
That pic is awesome!

I like long exposure photos of aircraft taking off at night, like these two:

http://richerramblings.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/long-exposure-airplane.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Uy4nE.jpg

Xinos
5 Aug 2011, 20:22
Very nice! Long exposure shots are fun to take. I'm not about to view the nasa photo on my phone though. (checking the forum on the buss.)

Oh that gives me an idea.. I could write a python script to automatically download the daily photo and set it as my desktop wallpaper when I start my computer.. Chances of me still being interested by the time I get home though is slim. :p

bonz
5 Aug 2011, 21:36
Long exposure, eh?
I just bought a Nikon D3100 DSLR camera today. All I need now is a tripod.

Xinos
5 Aug 2011, 22:39
Cool. Make sure you can get it pretty steady though Even with a tripod, a long exposure shot on a dark night can turn out quite blurry. So get a heavy tripod or find a way to weigh it down. You could also just experiment with setting a timer and placing the camera down on something.

SomePerson
6 Aug 2011, 07:20
Definitely get one of those camera remotes!

I've been getting into old film stuff, been setting up some darkroom stuff in my bathroom. Bought a photographic enlarger the other week. I'm not great at it, but it's a fun hobby. :)

http://i.imgur.com/kNOe8.jpg (My scanner sucks, the actual 5x7 print is more contrasty)

SargeMcCluck
8 Aug 2011, 10:30
SupSuper: Thanks for the VVVVVV converter! Was quite a surprise to look through my RSS feed and see you mentioned on the VVVVVV one.

bonz
8 Aug 2011, 10:31
Definitely get one of those camera remotes!
Yeah, I've planned on getting one.
We will set up a self-portrait photo booth at our wedding, where guests can write greetings and messages on big cards. :)

For the D3100 I only found a corded one with a very short 1m cable, which won't suffice.

Are there 3rd party radio remotes available for the Nikon D3100?
Do remotes have some sort of standardized connection port?

SupSuper
9 Aug 2011, 00:30
SupSuper: Thanks for the VVVVVV converter! Was quite a surprise to look through my RSS feed and see you mentioned on the VVVVVV one.
You never know where I'm gonna pop out next. :cool:

MtlAngelus
9 Aug 2011, 03:47
Paid $10 for the indie bundle, suckers. :cool:

Paul.Power
9 Aug 2011, 16:57
Paid $10 for the indie bundle, suckers. :cool:Snap - although I got it before the addition of Steel Storm or Atom Zombie Smasher so :cool: :cool:

Already had Cogs, but VVVVVV and Crayon Physics Deluxe have been worth the $10 alone.

MtlAngelus
25 Aug 2011, 09:48
This thing is great:

http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue

Just scroll down. It's basically a jump scare, but done pretty well in my opinion. Not for people who are easily scared. :p

SupSuper
25 Aug 2011, 15:37
Haha, I wouldn't say it's that scary (I'm more spooked by the loud scares) but definitely very well done.

Akuryou13
25 Aug 2011, 16:25
oh now that is neat.

Paul.Power
27 Aug 2011, 11:48
Sup showed me that in chat without the "Not for people who are easily scared" caveat and aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Xinos
31 Aug 2011, 07:43
Is it jusu me or does Adam Jensen sound exactly like Walter Simons?

SupSuper
31 Aug 2011, 16:13
Is it jusu me or does Adam Jensen sound exactly like Walter Simons?
Well now that you mention it. :p Although I think the only person who's in both games is Bob Page.

Alien King
31 Aug 2011, 16:25
Walton Simons didn't sound like he smoked a hundred a day.
And yeah, Bob Page is the only guy that appears in both; although other characters are mentioned (Manderly, Everett and Lucius De Beers).
Oh wait, Tracer Tong does too, but only for a couple of seconds.

Zero72
11 Sep 2011, 02:36
Huh. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp3m3xS6qDA&feature=related)

Interesting that they decided to cover his X2 theme.

Zero72
11 Sep 2011, 18:27
Happy American Media Jerks Off Over A National Tragedy Day.

Akuryou13
11 Sep 2011, 19:29
Happy American Media Jerks Off Over A National Tragedy Day.this is why I've stopped watching the news.

Xinos
11 Sep 2011, 20:09
Fox isn't the only source of news you know :p

Yeah I find it pretty sick. History channel is apparently running a minute by minute rebroadcast of the events as they happened in real time. Seriously? Relive the terror? Isn't that exactly what a terrorist would want to accomplish? It's like the media is telling people to remain in a state of defeat.

Akuryou13
11 Sep 2011, 20:26
It's like the media is telling people to remain in a state of defeat.as opposed to the rest of the year where they air only cheery and fun stories, right?

the media does NOTHING but fear-monger. they present the worst stories possible in the most flamboyant ways possible, and fill in the interim with cute puppies and the like so you don't completely resent them.

SargeMcCluck
11 Sep 2011, 21:35
Unfortunately from what I've seen of the US media (not just Fox) that's true. It's not like that in all of the world, though. We have our bad apples, but they're not all bad.

SupSuper
11 Sep 2011, 21:42
Happy American Media Jerks Off Over A National Tragedy Day.
Sadly it's more like Every Media.

Zero72
12 Sep 2011, 02:19
I did think it was pretty cool how Budweiser made a tribute commercial and aired it exactly once, so as to get the message across with minimal financial gain. I know it's still kind of a publicity stunt sort of thing, but... I dunno, I thought that seemed a little more genuine than most. Most of the TV today was "we'll never forget even harder than you won't!"

SupSuper
12 Sep 2011, 11:38
To all the UKers that don't look outside of OD, Team17 is having an open day on 19th September where you can have a free lunch and gaming. :p Check it out: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=48927

MtlAngelus
30 Sep 2011, 12:14
So I have a code for the PC version of Worms: Ultimate Mayhem that I can't really use because of a lack of a PC that can run it. I somehow failed to read that the giveaway was for the PC version only. >_>

I could go ahead and redeem it and just play it whenever I get around to building myself a nice rig, but to be honest, it would really be a waste as that's not going to happen for a reaaally long time. And the game is just $15, I can just buy it whenever that actually happens.

So... I'm giving it away here. Bill is cool with it, too. Who wants? First come first serve!

bonz
30 Sep 2011, 13:53
Didn't you install Windows on your Intel Mac?

High-jack Bill's raffle thread and re-raffle it. :D

SargeMcCluck
30 Sep 2011, 14:18
Meeee!!!!!!

MtlAngelus
30 Sep 2011, 16:08
Didn't you install Windows on your Intel Mac?

High-jack Bill's raffle thread and re-raffle it. :D

I did, twice, once with Vista and once with Win7. And both times everything imploded horribly after a few week.

Also, no re-raffle. I'd rather give it to someone here. :cool:

And, since you didn't ask for it...

Meeee!!!!!!

A WINRAR IS YOU!

PM arriving shortly.

SargeMcCluck
30 Sep 2011, 16:16
<3 thanks a lot Mr Angelus!

Worm Mad
1 Oct 2011, 18:00
A distinct lack of coconuts: an 'open' letter to Team71

Dear Team71,

I recently began playing your game "Worms of the Ultimate Mayhem", with a sense of giddy trepidation. The news that you would be combining the best aspects of both "Three Dimensional Worms" and "Worms the 4th: Maniac Edition" was, quite frankly, the greatest moment in my entire life.

However, after playing WOTUM for several minutes, I felt something die inside me. Why? Because WOTUM is missing the quintessential element that made 3DW the smash-hit videogame of the noughties.

SHAKE YOUR COCONUTS!

As any true Worm fan knows, Junior Senior (a band that defined a generation) and Team71 teamed up on 3DW to deliver a song which spoke to the true heart of the gamer with sonnet-like lyrics such as: "Shake your Coconuts, Coco-boys, until the nut comes out"

So, why - WHY - were we robbed of this majestic tune in WOTUM? Clearly you no longer understand your fanbase and are only interested in making money. Well, good luck with that. Nobody will ever buy your games again after this unless you RETROACTIVELY add Junior Senior songs into every one of your games.

Yours sincerely,
Wormius Maddius.

[I was going to post this in the WUM forums for a laugh but decided it wasn't appropriate. Posting it here for Sup.]

bonz
1 Oct 2011, 19:24
A distinct lack of coconuts: an 'open' letter to Team71

Dear Team71,

I recently began playing your game "Worms of the Ultimate Mayhem", with a sense of giddy trepidation. The news that you would be combining the best aspects of both "Three Dimensional Worms" and "Worms the 4th: Maniac Edition" was, quite frankly, the greatest moment in my entire life.

However, after playing WOTUM for several minutes, I felt something die inside me. Why? Because WOTUM is missing the quintessential element that made 3DW the smash-hit videogame of the noughties.

SHAKE YOUR COCONUTS!

As any true Worm fan knows, Junior Senior (a band that defined a generation) and Team71 teamed up on 3DW to deliver a song which spoke to the true heart of the gamer with sonnet-like lyrics such as: "Shake your Coconuts, Coco-boys, until the nut comes out"

So, why - WHY - were we robbed of this majestic tune in WOTUM? Clearly you no longer understand your fanbase and are only interested in making money. Well, good luck with that. Nobody will ever buy your games again after this unless you RETROACTIVELY add Junior Senior songs into every one of your games.

Yours sincerely,
Wormius Maddius.

[I was going to post this in the WUM forums for a laugh but decided it wasn't appropriate. Posting it here for Sup.]
I heard that even Bjorn Lynne finally realized how great Shake Your Coconuts is and how it boosted 3DW in every way imaginable.
I guess they will soon add a patch that'll retroactively add that masterpiece of a pop-song and video game theme song.

And, who knows, maybe they even add a fix to 3DW, that'll permanently disallow to add patches that retroactively add the Worm Song.

Edit:
Really, just listen to how bad the Worm Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTmK55f5No) is! :eek:

FutureWorm
7 Oct 2011, 00:23
junior senior broke up a couple years ago :(

FutureWorm
7 Oct 2011, 00:25
shake your coconuts is such a good song

BetongÅsna
10 Oct 2011, 01:37
Oh lord, now I remember the crushing feeling of 'what have they done?' I experienced when playing W3D for the first time.

Zero72
11 Oct 2011, 06:23
Man, Portal 2 sure was fun up until Valve's crack team of programming chimps tried to jam a patch into it. I remember when it worked. That was neat.

brb, buying hundreds of pretend hats

edit: well I guess I made it work by turning every possible graphics option down to Remedial Special Needs Computer, and to be fair it didn't even really look much different as such, but I retain my stance of being sick of Valve's ****.

bonz
31 Oct 2011, 09:43
Can anyone from the USA invite me to Google Music? (If it actually works the same as before with Gmail and Google+.)

I don't want to send my Google account details through proxy servers.

bonz
31 Oct 2011, 10:48
Does anyone from the USA have a spare Dr Pepper bottle cap code?

There is new Battlefield 3 promo DLC available with these and the bottles with those caps are only sold in the USA (and Canada maybe).
http://www.drpepper.com/promotions/ea/

Xinos
1 Nov 2011, 19:51
I'd also be interested in one of those. Although "courtesy of Dr Pepper"? I doubt they did much work making those skins :p

Edit: I wonder if it will actually work. Says codes are only valid in the US only at the bottom of the page.

bonz
1 Nov 2011, 23:38
I'd also be interested in one of those. Although "courtesy of Dr Pepper"? I doubt they did much work making those skins :p
Nah, the content is provided by EA.
In the previous promo, you could get some skins for BFBC2, the same that you could buy as an official DLC.
Edit: I wonder if it will actually work. Says codes are only valid in the US only at the bottom of the page.
It does work.
I got the Spore Bot Parts pack that way.

The only thing you need is a valid US zip code during the creation of a Dr Pepper account. Last year you also needed a street address. Not sure if that is still the case.

SupSuper
2 Nov 2011, 02:19
I thought it was safe to go out there again, to look beyond the sacred OD walls, but good gawd everytime I do it's like I suddenly stepped into SPUF or GameFAQs and truly regret the experience.

Yup Phantom u stay out of this, obviously tor absolutely in love with team 17 and according yo you they can't do anything wrong and are always right and making the best games.
With that said, yes a month AFTER RELEASE AND STILL NO UPDATE!!! THIS IS ABSOULTELY RIDICULOIS TEAM 17. WTF R U GUYS DOING??? ANY OTHER GAME WOULD BE FIXED BY NOW BUT US WORMS PLAYERS R STUCK WITH EITHER THE LAZIEST OR DUMBEST (I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE) GAME DEV'S IN THE WORLD!!
Ok that caps rant is over. Team 17 one line of code will make ur game fun again..delay your tidiculous team weapon in ranked matches. It's not even fun right now cuz u get newbs who use it constantly n it takes everyone out. ONE LINE OF CODE TEAM 17 TO FIX THAT...1 LINE!!! RIDICULOUS

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975

thomasp
2 Nov 2011, 08:08
I'd love to know how they know its only one line of code... have they analysed the entire game code itself and determined what's wrong? If so, they should probably be told to post said code to help the bug-fixing process.

Zero72
7 Nov 2011, 06:55
The thing I really miss most about msn's handwriting tool actually working is illustrating my Nethack games. All Nethack stories are better in comic form.

http://i.imgur.com/b0Ijg.png
http://i.imgur.com/MKivn.png
http://i.imgur.com/M3Z1P.png
http://i.imgur.com/LpL8z.png
http://i.imgur.com/4UUkr.png
http://i.imgur.com/KQKXb.png
http://i.imgur.com/R7far.png
http://i.imgur.com/SBhie.png
http://i.imgur.com/CETSq.png
http://i.imgur.com/VTEkG.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ns9Wr.png

SupSuper
7 Nov 2011, 12:15
Everything is better in comic form. :D

SupSuper
16 Nov 2011, 00:19
Why the hell did Ubuntu decide to steal the Mac interface?

http://i.techrepublic.com.com/blogs/ubuntu_unity_default.png

Seriously, they moved the window titlebar icons to the top-left, the topbar works as a menubar and the sidebar works like the Mac Dock.

Akuryou13
16 Nov 2011, 03:27
Why the hell did Ubuntu decide to steal the Mac interface?because the one thing people love about macs is the interface :p

bonz
16 Nov 2011, 08:03
Does Apple own the rights for cardinal directions now?

SargeMcCluck
16 Nov 2011, 09:31
Does Apple own the rights for cardinal directions now?

I wouldn't be surprised, they're trying to patent everything else >_>

SupSuper
16 Nov 2011, 12:00
because the one thing people love about macs is the interface :p
I don't. :p And I thought Linux's whole point was to be this open holier-than-thou different-from-everything-else system. Pandering to Mac of all things seems rather off.

Does Apple own the rights for cardinal directions now?
I'm not saying "omg they're stealing from apple the thiefs!!!!" but "wow this is a completely radical change out of nowhere for no apparent reason". For those unfamiliar, this is what it looked like before:

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ubuntu-8-10-alpha-1.jpg

It had its own distinctive interface and suddenly it works exactly like the Mac interface, at least I don't know any other system that has a top system bar that also acts as the active application menubar and has window titlebar buttons on the top-left and has a dockbar with auto-expanding application shortcuts with content menus and little LEDs indicating the running applications which are no longer exited by just closing the window.

Zero72
26 Nov 2011, 02:02
Oh man it's probably too late now but http://www.gamemusicbundle.com/ go go go