I've always stuck to Lib Dems. I know they won't get control but the more seats they have, the better.

That's my somewhat under-educated standpoint, anyway.

Labour won't have much luck at the elections. Let's see: Financial ruin of Britain, MPs' expenses, Gurkhas not being allowed in, and to top it all off the petition with the highest number of signatures on number10.gov.uk is asking Brown to resign.

Go figure. I sure as hell am not voting Labour.

On the other hand, you don't live in Wales :p.

How was the 'financial ruin' Labour's fault?

How was the 'financial ruin' Labour's fault?

The mere fact they were in power at the time means they're going to be unpopular over it.

How was the 'financial ruin' Labour's fault?
According to the two best sources when it comes to politics, the Daily Mail and The Sun, Labour, and specifically Gordon Brown were solely responsible for plunging the country into recession, doom and gloom, mainly because they spent money. But if they hadn't spent money then the same two papers would be moaning that they hadn't done anything for the country :p

And given how the majority of the voting public reads those two papers, therefore it's Labour's fault :p

And given how the majority of the voting public reads those two papers, therefore it's Labour's fault :p

...

That's bloody terrifying!

How was the 'financial ruin' Labour's fault?We're one of the worst hit countries. Exchange rates have plummeted. Banks have increasingly been giving away money they don't have in the form of mortgages people cannot pay. Gordon Brown was chancellor while all this was going on. He also successfully sold off the UK's gold stocks which has cost us billions http://www.usagold.com/amk/goldrallyindicator.gif

Labour was the party that fuelled the boom, which has lead to the bust we are in now. So yes, they are to blame.

I say humans are to be blamed. Always, whatever the issue.

I say humans are to be blamed. Always, whatever the issue.
thanks, that's deep

I choose to blame the Illuminati.

Curse you the Illuminati!

thanks, that's deep

Glad you found it helpful and not the least bit irrelevant. :)

I say humans are to be blamed. Always, whatever the issue.

Pitiful humans...

We're one of the worst hit countries. Exchange rates have plummeted. Banks have increasingly been giving away money they don't have in the form of mortgages people cannot pay. Gordon Brown was chancellor while all this was going on. He also successfully sold off the UK's gold stocks which has cost us billions http://www.usagold.com/amk/goldrallyindicator.gif

Labour was the party that fuelled the boom, which has lead to the bust we are in now. So yes, they are to blame.

So, because we were doing quite well, we had further to fall. Fair enough. Pound's still stronger than the Euro and Dollar though, ain't it? And doesn't selling stuff mean we get money for that? How has it cost us billions?

I don't understand that gold chart. What does it mean?

So, because we were doing quite well, we had further to fall. Fair enough. Pound's still stronger than the Euro and Dollar though, ain't it? And doesn't selling stuff mean we get money for that? How has it cost us billions?

I don't understand that gold chart. What does it mean?
you are clueless, hope this helps

you are clueless, hope this helps

Not really. Try a bit harder.

So, because we were doing quite well, we had further to fall. Fair enough. Pound's still stronger than the Euro and Dollar though, ain't it? And doesn't selling stuff mean we get money for that? How has it cost us billions?

I don't understand that gold chart. What does it mean?

It cost us billions because if Brown hadn't have totally misjudged the time to sell the gold (from what I've heard at least the first couple of times there was no real need to sell it), or at least not sold as much, the gold he then didn't sell would have risen in value and we'd have had more money to spend later on, when we needed to.

That chart is basically saying that without fail, every time Brown has sold gold, the worldwide price of gold has then risen.


And I'm pretty sure the pound is now weaker than the dollar, and possibly even weaker than the Euro.

And I'm pretty sure the pound is now weaker than the dollar, and possibly even weaker than the Euro.

you cannot be serious

you cannot be serious
Despite what most Americans think, the UK is actually one of the worst-hit countries during this recession. Mainly due to an incompetent chancellor who then went on to be an incompetent prime minister. And a new chancellor whose eyebrows and hair don't match. :p

So, because we were doing quite well, we had further to fall. Fair enough. Pound's still stronger than the Euro and Dollar though, ain't it? And doesn't selling stuff mean we get money for that?And with what industry are we going to sell anything with? Jobs are outsourced to other countries such as India and we import much of our goods.

The pound is still stronger, but now it gets you $1.50 instead of $2. Secondly, the cost of living is more expensive here. Even before the recession, what might cost $100 in America would probably cost about £80 here. If that's something being imported from America then it costs more to buy it, meaning prices rise. It's nearly on par with the Euro now.

Notice how other countries like Ireland and Iceland have been crippled by the recession after they witnessed some of the biggest booms in Europe.

Poor exchange rates are good for exporting but bad for importing. We import far more than we export.

I know a song that'll get on your nerves, get on your nerves, get on your nerves, I know a song that'll get on your nerves and it goes like this:
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I know a song that'll get on your nerves, get on your nerves, get on your nerves, I know a song that'll get on your nerves and it goes like this (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=693751&postcount=15520).

God damn it.

geez. you even have a different version of THAT in europe?!

Britain invented it to keep people from invading.

geez. you even have a different version of THAT in europe?!

Indeed. Even our attempts at annoyance are superior!

I always knew the end as 'get get get on your nerves'.

I always knew the end as 'get get get on your nerves'.

Ditto

"it goes like this" just doesn't sound right.

Ditto

"it goes like this" just doesn't sound right.

Does it irritate you?

I heard the version I posted when I was about 5 and the alternative when I was more like 15, so I've always stuck with the former.

Does it irritate you?

lol, point :p.

I got it from Joe Pasquale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pasquale).

I got it from Joe Pasquale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pasquale).

Hey, me too. I first saw him when he did panto in Swansea two years running.

Indeed. Even our attempts at annoyance are superior!its an EXTREMELY pointless difference between the two. it's even mostly the same words just rearranged. its just odd.

QUESTION!

for you facebook guys: my cousin just found me and added me on facebook. I see no reason to deprive her of updates to my life if she so decides to hear about them, but I REALLY don't want to see her updates. you see? she's what a friend of mine lovingly refers to as a "religibot". her updates are nothing but religious pomposity proclaiming how much she loves god and how great god is to bless her with such a blessed glass of water for her to blessedly shove down her blessed little throat. when its not how blessed she is, it's how pretty and shallow.

seriously, if I have to keep seeing this crap I'm going to start choking kittens. someone PLEASE tell me how to turn it off.

Oh look, guess who's back (http://www.viddler.com/explore/pokecapn/videos/54/).

Although so far it doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as Sonic 2006.

seriously, if I have to keep seeing this crap I'm going to start choking kittens. someone PLEASE tell me how to turn it off.

Noooooooo! The poor kittens!

Next time she has left a comment on your Facebook, hover over the comment and a little "Hide" box will appear. Click that, then click "Hide [%her name%]" and you won't see her posts until you opt into seeing them again.

Now leave Poppy alone.

edit: Also, Brian Blessed.

for you facebook guys: my cousin just found me and added me on facebook. I see no reason to deprive her of updates to my life if she so decides to hear about them, but I REALLY don't want to see her updates. you see? she's what a friend of mine lovingly refers to as a "religibot". her updates are nothing but religious pomposity proclaiming how much she loves god and how great god is to bless her with such a blessed glass of water for her to blessedly shove down her blessed little throat. when its not how blessed she is, it's how pretty and shallow.

I have a friend like that on Facebook. Not full-on, normally, but it's all-pervading and the very odd week it's every other update. It bothers me, because I don't think there's a polite and honest way to respond, not least because we don't talk much these days and I'd hate to start criticising her beliefs out of the blue. I mean, she's very much asking for it by adding me and then posting the stuff, but nevertheless if I ever have good reason to broach the subject I wouldn't like it to be our first contact for a month. Ironically I suspect this awkwardness is one of the reasons we don't talk much in the first place.

It's not even as if her religion is totally harmless. I mean, now she's happy, but I've known her end a good relationship because of it. I really fancied her at the time, and I think she might have liked me, but I never did anything about it, partly because I knew it couldn't work out with her being so devout. Now she's married to another Christian, so that's okay, except... if I did point out all the little flaws in Christianity, I might convince her to give it up (which is of course the aim), which might ruin her marriage. Although maybe then I could go out with her myself. It scares me how plausible that is.

You see? You see what happens when people base their life on total ****ing nonsense? It shouldn't be possible to wreck someone's life by educating them.

I feel better for that (although to be honest I felt pretty good anyway). Vader is right on Facebook-fu.

seriously, if I have to keep seeing this crap I'm going to start choking kittens. someone PLEASE tell me how to turn it off.Get yourself one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzi_8Rscfs

Get yourself one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzi_8Rscfs:eek: WTF?!

Get yourself one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzi_8Rscfs

LOL, that is darkly amusing.

I don't think they aired those commercials, which is a shame.

I don't think they aired those commercials, which is a shame.not for their legal dept :p

If one forum members dies for every 4 maths posts per page of this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=20234&page=114), how many forum members are still alive to celebrate the New Year at the end of 2010?

And how much force would it take to push them all off a cliff whose face is sheer and has a 25 degree inclination to reach it, assuming each is a 28 stone gorilla in a forumite costume?

25 degree inclination to reach itRough or smooth surface?

*EDIT: Smooth surface, about 736N per forum member.

Rough surface, about 736 + (1579 * the coefficient of friction of the slope) newtons per forum member.

If one forum members dies for every 4 maths posts per page of this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=20234&page=114), how many forum members are still alive to celebrate the New Year at the end of 2010?

Well the rate of change of forum members with time is the key variable here, dn/dt. Then we need to consider the rate of change of posts with ti.....

*gets slapped on the back of the head with a large maths textbook by one of the non-maths-loving forum members*

And how much force would it take to push them all off a cliff whose face is sheer and has a 25 degree inclination to reach it, assuming each is a 28 stone gorilla in a forumite costume?

What is the coefficient of friction between the forum members and the surface? What is the wind speed? What is the altitude of the cliff so as you can obtain the viscosity of air? What is....

*gets slapped again*

Rough or smooth surface?

*EDIT: Smooth surface, about 736N per forum member.

Rough surface, about 736 + (1579 * the coefficient of friction of the slope) newtons per forum member.

I'm sorry but I need the total value, not the per member value. See below for the surface information.

Well the rate of change of forum members with time is the key variable here, dn/dt. Then we need to consider the rate of change of posts with ti.....

*gets slapped on the back of the head with a large maths textbook by one of the non-maths-loving forum members*

*slaps you because it looked fun*

What is the coefficient of friction between the forum members and the surface? What is the wind speed? What is the altitude of the cliff so as you can obtain the viscosity of air? What is....

*gets slapped again*

The surface is dewy grass. The wind speed is 0mph. The cliff's face is 430' tall (the lip of the cliff is 430' above sea level).

The surface is dewy grass. The wind speed is 0mph. The cliff's face is 430' tall (the lip of the cliff is 430' above sea level).

Well if it's dewy grass that's going to be a pretty low coefficient of friction.

Well, the grass won't hold much weight on its own. The earth beneath it will be causing most of the friction, plus they're gorillas, so they have a rough surface on them.

The landscape is chalky, so the dew will likely be drawn into the ground below quite quickly, too. Given the time it takes to push a pile of gorillas up a 25 degree slope, I'm not sure the dew will have much, if any, lubricating effect.

if you guys ACTUALLY solve this equation you will officially never EVER get laid :p

Given the time it takes to push a pile of gorillas up a 25 degree slope

Time isn't an issue, as you specifically asked for force.

The cliff's face is 430' tall (the lip of the cliff is 430' above sea level).

Can we assume you're referring to mean sea level and can we assume ISA conditions?


Also, is there an R in the month on which the experiment will be undertaken, as that'll greatly affect the doom field which rises exponentially with the number of clones.

:p

Time isn't an issue, as you specifically asked for force.

Ah, but the force required is going to change over time on account of the friction changing over time.

Come on man, you can do it!

if you guys ACTUALLY solve this equation you will officially never EVER get laid :p
Only if the victim whore potential lover ever finds out about it, and unless they're in OD they can't... or you'll be hunted down by volcadmin and he will delete you.

if you guys ACTUALLY solve this equation you will officially never EVER get laid :p

I'll keep quiet then.


Ah, but the force required is going to change over time on account of the friction changing over time.

Are we talking about a single impact force applied for a short time, or a constant force applied throughout the duration?

I'd have thought that was obvious from the context, AK. It would be continual friction which increases slightly as the ground dries. But only a slight increase of maybe 3-4%, let's say.

edit: misread that completely. It would be a continual force as you'd be pushing them up the slope and over the cliff rather than knocking them.

In which case, the force required will be any amount above the sum of the friction with the ground and any air resistance. Air resistance will vary with velocity, though air resistance is probably insignificant enough to be ignored.
Friction can be modelled by having a limiting value equal to the reaction force from the ground on the forumers x the coefficient of friction. I don't think this will change given the below.

The rate of change of friction according to your scenario will also be insignificant and can probably be ignored, unless we're really, really slow at pushing these forumers.

If we are to take the change of friction into account, then calculus is going to have to get involved.

Post number #15555 is NOT a math-related post!

3+4=7

Bwahahahahaha.

Post number #15555 is NOT a math-related post!

ln(e^x) = x

i^2 + 1 = 0

e^(i.x) = cos(x) + i.sin(x)

Doubleyou Tee Fuuuuuuu*****??!?!?

It just about is. Sorry.

It wasn't when he posted it but I deleted one of my posts and bumped his to #15554 so I could wee on his fire.

Sorry Matty.

Ha-haaaaaa!

I believe the technical term is "***d". ;)

Wait, since when is *** censored? P W N. ***.

Ha-haaaaaa!

Ha-haaaaaa indeed.

ln(e^x) = x

i^2 + 1 = 0

e^(i.x) = cos(x) + i.sin(x)


Man, I don't know what half of that means.

I know i=-1 in the second equation (just realised it doesn't) but what's all this full-stop between things gubbins? I've never seen that in my life.

I should give up while I'm very far behind.

Man, I don't know what half of that means.

I know i=-1 in the second equation but what's all this full-stop between things gubbins? I've never seen that in my life.

Actually, i = ±sqrt(-1). It's the imaginary unit.
The fullstop is just a symbol for multiplication (ie: ×). Often, instead of an x, mathematicians use a dot.

Don't worry about it, you're not expected to know it without A level maths or something.
Actually... I don't think you do complex numbers at A level without doing Further Maths...
The content of my post was just ensuring it was maths.

so it can be a dot, an x, an asterisk or in some cases nothing at all:
4.e, or
4xe, or
4*e, or
4e

so it can be a dot, an x, an asterisk or in some cases nothing at all:
4.e, or
4xe, or
4*e, or
4e

Yes, though the asterix is only ever used in typing.

Nice and standardised, then. :rolleyes:

Nice and standardised, then. :rolleyes:

Well... if I'm using just numbers, I'll use the x.
If I'm using a lot of algebraic terms, I'll use a dot to seperate out the terms and make it look a bit neater (which counts for a lot given my handwriting).
And if it's a number next to a letter, I won't bother with anything.

I believe the technical term is "***d". ;)

Wait, since when is *** censored? P W N. ***.

Blame Andrew for that one :p

Stop it, all of you. Just stop it.

Stop it, all of you. Just stop it.
What's wrong with talking about mathematics on an internet forum, on a Friday evening? You should consider yourself lucky I'm not boring you all to death about aircraft :p

What's wrong with talking about mathematics on an internet forum, on a Friday evening? You should consider yourself lucky I'm not boring you all to death about aircraft :p
Maybe Matty had a traumatic event in his past that involved maths...

Maybe Matty had a traumatic event in his past that involved maths...

Perhaps facing him with his fears will remedy the situation.

I believe the technical term is "***d". ;)

Wait, since when is *** censored? P W N. ***.have you NOT seen me randomly cursing andrew at least once a week or so? :p

Nice and standardised, then. :rolleyes:

It is, yes.

In any kind of formal writing, x is a variable, × and . are distinct forms of multiplication, and * is convolution. Unitalicised 'x' doesn't mean anything.

In code and general typing, * is usual for various obvious pragmatic reasons.

so it can be a dot, an x, an asterisk or in some cases nothing at all:
4.e, or
4xe, or
4*e, or
4e
Yes, but it's not really an x but this sign: ×
Also, the dot is not a comma . but actually this sign: ·
Otherwise you'd confuse them with the variable x and the comma.

Leaving out the multiplication sign completly is normally only used when natural numbers multiply a variable. Numbers other than natural numbers are normally noted as fractions with the · sign multiplicating the variable.

So, when typing on computers, the asterisk is the most convenient sign.

When handwriting it's the dot.
At least in German, where the usage of , and . is switched around in number related things.
In English the × sign is probably the better choice to avoid confusion between the dot and comma.

Edit:
Bleh! There was already another page with explanations.

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wow, it seems like the Team17 forum is... dying? Or at least the parts I cared to visit. :p

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wow, it seems like the Team17 forum is... dying? Or at least the parts I cared to visit. :plol, yeah. OO and OD are active but that's pretty much it.

It's not exactly much of a community these days though is it? With the old CMB you had a central location where everyone could post anything to everyone else. The Team17 forum does a good job of providing avenues of discussion for Team17-related things but not much else. It is mostly a company forum, and to set up a community-run alternative may be more damaging than fixing.

I seldom use OD anymore, to be honest. I've more or less moved on to other pastures - Ganymede & Titan and the Penny Arcade Forums seem to be my usual haunts these days.

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wow, it seems like the Team17 forum is... dying? Or at least the parts I cared to visit. :pWhat tipped you off, all the math talk? :p

OD isn't that dead atm. Been much worse. I really don't know about the rest of the forum though, because I never visit it. T17F is the only forum I write on. I only come here to read and occasionally post in the 100%OT and the Events threads really. Gotta stay updated!

I don't think I've talked about Worms much since when Worms 3D was in development and shortly thereafter. There's not much more to be said I think.

"'The Bazooka a nice weapon."
"Yes."

i was talking with pickleworm the other day and i mentioned that od is kind of like an old bar in your hometown. it's not the flashiest, and its glory days are long past, but it's still a place where you can pull up a seat and find a friend. i guess it's kind of dumb to get nostalgic about a message board but whatever, i've been registered here a solid third of my life now and i'll do what i damn well please

Y'know, I could have sworn you guys were having this exact conversation a year ago.

i mentioned that od is kind of like an old bar in your hometown. it's not the flashiest, and its glory days are long past, but it's still a place where you can pull up a seat and find a friend.
More like a tavern (http://thepovertyjetset.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/picture-6.png).
And we're the miserable, drunk regulars spending our whole time there.

More like a tavern (http://thepovertyjetset.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/picture-6.png).
And we're the miserable, drunk regulars spending our whole time there.
i like to think that i'm the flashy debutante that comes home to visit every once in a while

More like a tavern (http://thepovertyjetset.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/picture-6.png).
And we're the miserable, drunk regulars spending our whole time there.

Perhaps even a 'ville (http://wurmz.net/forumsville/)' ... perhaps?

Perhaps even a 'ville (http://wurmz.net/forumsville/)' ... perhaps?"Background: Blinx has lived in Forumsville all his life. He works as an Assistant Scientist in the Hospital. Currently working on a cure for Mumps."

Hahaha.

perhaps even a 'ville (http://wurmz.net/forumsville/)' ... Perhaps?back to the future zone

In the future, will the capitalisation in my quotes be all mixed up?

Maybe it's because I typed in ALLCAPS which made the forum lowercase everything and mess up quotes.

maybe it's because i typed in allcaps which made the forum lowercase everything and mess up quotes.
the forum doesn't usually decapsify posts with quotes in it... I think...


Edit:

Hmmm, it seems Rather Than Capitalising Every Word Which Lets Face It Is Quite Annoying the forum now just makes all letters lowercase. It never used to do that... Quoting a post was always a way around the caps filter.

Guess that changed in vB3.8 :confused:

the forum doesn't usually decapsify posts with quotes in it... I think...


Edit:

Hmmm, it seems rather than capitalising every word which lets face it is quite annoying the forum now just makes all letters lowercase. It never used to do that... Quoting a post was always a way around the caps filter.

Guess that changed in vb3.8 :confused:
i'm testing the caps filter lolz ***'d

Today I found out my supervisor is on Twitter. He has tweeted exactly once. He tweeted to say he was at work.

I have no idea what my brain is supposed to do with this information. For the meantime, I have archived it here.

I try and try to tweet, but much like every other social site crap, I can't hide that I can't stand it.

I try and try to tweet, but much like every other social site crap, I can't hide that I can't stand it.
twitter is only really worthwhile for following noteworthy people, particularly musicians and comedians

twitter is only really worthwhile for following noteworthy people, particularly musicians and comediansand for use with things like facebook for digital devices that only work for twitter. a friend of mine updates her facebook with her phone through twitter, for instance.

aside from that, yeah, it's useless. I really don't see why people think others care at ALL what they do every minute of the day.

I never really understood the point of Twitter. Seems to me to be a Facebook-like site that only allows updating your status.

It feels like blogging and twittering is more of an American thing. Nobody I know in real life here in Sweden blogs, twitters or myspaces. It seems extremely rare. But our newspapers often write about how trendy it is to blog. But even then it's usually about people blogging for someone else, like a company or their political party..

I think Facebook is the only real exception here. But I can't stand it, it asks so much time from you to be active there. I'd rather just use msn to say what I want to say to someone when I'm at the computer.

twitter is only really worthwhile for following noteworthy people, particularly musicians and comedians

@FutureWorm you'll have a slightly lonely time if you don't have any followers who follow less than a thousand other people.

aside from that, yeah, it's useless. I really don't see why people think others care at ALL what they do every minute of the day.

@Akuryou13 It's also quite good for turning a boring evening watching bad TV alone into a more social discussion of whatever's on.

I never really understood the point of Twitter. Seems to me to be a Facebook-like site that only allows updating your status.

@StarWorms I think Facebook's slightly crap implementation of @reply-like functionality has probably put people off Twitter.

It feels like blogging and twittering is more of an American thing. Nobody I know in real life here in Sweden blogs, twitters or myspaces. It seems extremely rare. But our newspapers often write about how trendy it is to blog. But even then it's usually about people blogging for someone else, like a company or their political party..

@Xinos I know a few bloggers in real life. It's not cool, but it's not nerdy either. Newspapers have no idea about the internet.

YOU SEE HOW USING THIS THREAD IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS USING TWITTER? Using this thread to explain how pointless you think Twitter is is like an alternative therapist blogging about how science has never managed to achieve anything from his mobile phone.

Twitter struck me as: "LOOK I AM TYPING ON TEH INTERNETS, LOL"

What you say is true, Andrew. Using Twitter is like using a forum in that we can all type and discuss things. The difference is that if I join this forum and post something, everyone who is a member of this forum can read it and reply. I don't have to wait for people to come and 'follow' me once I'm a member to force my words into their eyes. Same with Facebook, I guess.

I think either Facebook or Twitter. It seems doing both is pointless and personally whilst I don't like either I prefer Facebook because I already have a bunch of 'friends' on there and it has much more functionality (albeit mostly annoying apps and "what type of thing are you" quizzes).

edit: Also, this thread would've been too long for Tw@tter.

I use Facebook because my friends use it. But its messaging system is worse than email and much, much worse than Google Wave looks like it will be, and the email alerts that go with it leave a lot to be desired. Its 'wall' system is neat, but the implementation, particularly your 'status' and the comment/reply functionality is confused and badly built (because both evolved from two distinct attempts at the same thing). My friends' shared items are a nice feature, but I read them on Google Reader, not Facebook. A few changes and it could be great, but it's very slow to update its service. If Facebook dies, that will be what kills it. If it doesn't, its massive established userbase will be what saves it, more than anything the developers do.

Twitter just replaced MSN Messenger as my primary online chat portal thing.

Edit: that and Google Talk, which is too much nicer than MSN for MSN to survive.

Fair enough.

I mainly use Facebook because it has the Zombies app and for some reason during my stint of unemployment I've found clicking the quest links therein quite entertaining. I've now written a very simple browser in C# which basically clicks the links for me every 10 minutes, so I barely use Facebook at all anymore other than checking up on my zombie. It's not so bad, though. You're right about the statuses and comments but y'know, at least I can link to my LEGO blog in a comment (and get a fair amount of traffic that way). I can't do that on Twitter and even if I could nobody would see it.

As for replacing MSN, I prefer to keep my chat between me and whoever I'm chatting to private, so a webpage dedicated to archiving all my stupid chatter doesn't suit me at all.

Oh, the other thing that irritated me about Twitter was that even with a friend's real name and his Twitter name I was unable to find him. Eventually he found me but that's beside the point.

Yeah, the people search thing is rubbish. The other day I got a 'welcome to twitter' email for someone else. I had his full name and email address and still couldn't find him. Never found my ex, either, despite having all the same information on her. Twitter has private messaging, by the way, but most of what I discuss on Twitter is semi-public anyhow. I like that it's publicly accessible because it means anyone can (and might) butt in with interesting and relevant information.

I've got traffic from Twitter before now. Somehow I've amassed 220 or so followers.

I like that it's publicly accessible because it means anyone can (and might) butt in with interesting and relevant information.

I can see the appeal in that, I just don't imagine it happening very often on account of how difficult it is to find someone on there. Although, I suppose if someone was looking for someone else they might happen upon your twitterings and chip in... I suppose.

I have something like 120 Facebook friends and I usually get about 20 hits on LFK from Facebook. Not a great proportion, really, but enough. I get very few hits on LFK anyway which is probably my fault for not updating it more often.

Nadal is out of the French Open... finally someone else can win it!

I still don't see why use social sites for instant messaging. Surely that's what instant messengers are for? They've had years to perfect the magical art of sending messages instantly. And in the end people just wanna go back to a glorified forum?

I mean, if you wanna use them as a forum, that's fine. They do a fine job just storing up messages. But that's not instant messaging.

Twitter is terrible for instant messaging. (assuming you're not using an app to magically fix it for you, but then that's not Twitter doing it). The reply-to feature was only introduced because people came up with the convention, it was never intended. All it does is make sure each side of the "conversation" gets the message. Multiple conversations will easily clutter up and get mixed with regular tweets, and to go back a few messages all you can do is keep clicking the "reply to" link. And in the end you don't even know if the other side intends to reply at all, in fact I've rarely had anyone ever reply to my tweets. It's not an instant messenger, it's no different from e-mail or SMS (in fact it's pretty much just online SMS). It's just a clutter of loosely-linked messages.

Aside from that, Twitter just becomes a chore for me. Even if you're just following a few people and even if you're using every app possible to clear it up for you, you'll still get tons of messages every day, whether you like it or not. Unless you pick your followers really carefully, I doubt you'll be interested in 100% of the nonsense people feel like spouting out. But there's no control, no filtering, so you just have to keep scrolling through message after message. It's no better than chain mail, with people showing off every single link, pic, or thought they think it's interesting. And unless you check it every single minute or so, you'll probably end up missing anything important anyways. It's like keeping up with an IRC channel or a forum, with everyone just shouting into thin air hoping to draw attention (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2HAroA12w).

I still don't see why use social sites for instant messaging. Surely that's what instant messengers are for? They've had years to perfect the magical art of sending messages instantly. And in the end people just wanna go back to a glorified forum?
You misunderstand. Twitter doesn't do what MSN did, it occupies a role in my life that MSN used to occupy: idle chatter. Google Talk is my preferred IM client, for quick/private chat.

Ooh, Wave looks really neat. Google continues to dominate the internet.

Google Maps was pretty out of date on this one road on Newport though. Said something was a roundabout when it had been changed to a traffic light. Made me late for a job interview :mad:.

Microsoft really does have too much marketing funding: http://www.office2010themovie.com/ (Youtube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vU9Up_2644))

*faceslap*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0

Google Wave, huh?
That immediately reminded me of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave). :-/

I wonder when we'll get "Strength Through Discipline" rules in the Gmail EULAs... :eek:

It looks like the forum is about to be on the receiving end of yet another porn bombing.

Yup, I had noticed. With a bit of luck most of the spammers will be new accounts (was just that one post so far), so everything will be caught up in the premoderation queue.

Change your avatar, Ben! The white hurts the design fruit in me.

I'll do it in the morning.

Must... fight... fruit... with... humour...

No, it's not working.

This is pretty fun: http://en.akinator.com/

It'll try to guess any character you're thinking of based solely on Y/N questions.

So far it got most of mine right:
Mega Man
Soundwave
Jamie Hyneman

I caught it out with Boggy B, though. After 15 questions it answered "Earthworm Jim". Bloody close, considering, so I clicked "more questions" and one question later it said:

Worms (videogame)

Close enough for me. I'm suitably impressed, even if my characters weren't all that esoteric.

*bioshock spoilers*




Bloody hell. I'm impressed. I went in there thinking of Frank Fontaine and it told me Atlas.

So far it's got right:
Tails
Bill Bryson
Richard Feynman

Guybrush Threepwood (Monkey Island)
Olivia Dunham (Fringe)
Walter Bishop (Fringe)
The Doctor (Doctor Who)

It took him 31 questions to guess Tux. Booyah!

Also, he apparently knew Beastie, but I accidently clicked No instead of More Questions.

Guessed correctly:
GIR
Solid Snake
Kaim (Lost Odyssey)
James Heatfield (Metallica)
Barney Calhoun (Half-Life)
Spy (TF2)
Hard Gay
Diddy Kong

It couldn't guess Llewellyn from Jump Leads tho. :P

Also couldn't guess Noby Noby Boy, even tho it is in it's database, apparently. I can't blame it tho, Noby Noby Boy isn't easy to describe. :P

i was surprised that it didn't know leela from marathon, although it thought it was cortana, so definitely in the right ballpark.

also it didn't have a clue about edward said, heh

It didn't figure out Desperate Dan or Bannanaman :(

*checks the calendar* ...saturday........ :eek:

That is why I have a watch with the day of the week on it :p

That is why I have a watch with the day of the week on it :pperhaps I was overly vague :p

I'm shocked by the fact that it's saturday and I'm posting. on the team17 forums.

perhaps I was overly vague :p

I'm shocked by the fact that it's saturday and I'm posting. on the team17 forums.
Guess volcadmin managed to duct tape the servers together enough for them to last a full 10mins without breaking :p

perhaps I was overly vague :p

I'm shocked by the fact that it's saturday and I'm posting. on the team17 forums.

Ah. True, though it's got to get through Sunday as well yet.

Still seems to be working :eek:

Impressive!

-.-

We were down from 11:15 ish til 12:35 odd...

:eek: You should get paid extra for working this late!

Still seems to be working :eek:

-.-

We were down from 11:15 ish til 12:35 odd...

Seems we managed to jinx the forum!!

Cheers for getting it fixed so late on a Saturday evening/Sunday morning volcadmin!

But why only on weekends? :confused:

But why only on weekends? :confused:
Because that's when volcadmin's not in the office, so it takes longer to get fixed :p

Given Tetris' recent anniversary, have some free Tetris gamemodes http://www.tetrisfriends.com/

Or if you're feeling sadistic, some evil free Tetris gamemodes: http://www.immortalsofar.com/Tehtris.htm

Eh, I never really understood the attraction of Tetris. I find it akin to watching grass grow. On the other hand, it was the direct inspiration for a lot of games I DO enjoy (Columns, Panel de Pon, Puyo Puyo, et cetera), so I guess I can appreciate its influence.

But I refuse to call it a game, since that implies enjoyment. :p

Eh, I never really understood the attraction of Tetris. I find it akin to watching grass grow. On the other hand, it was the direct inspiration for a lot of games I DO enjoy (Columns, Panel de Pon, Puyo Puyo, et cetera), so I guess I can appreciate its influence.

But I refuse to call it a game, since that implies enjoyment. :p

Then I will refuse to call you a person, since that implies a personality.

Eh, I never really understood the attraction of Tetris. I find it akin to watching grass grow. On the other hand, it was the direct inspiration for a lot of games I DO enjoy (Columns, Panel de Pon, Puyo Puyo, et cetera), so I guess I can appreciate its influence.

But I refuse to call it a game, since that implies enjoyment. :pPHILISTINE! :mad:

Doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, do do doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

Wrong, it's:

Doo, do do doo, do-do- do do doo, do doo, do do doo, do doo doo doo doo doo. Doo, do doo do do doo, do doo, do do doo, do do doo, doo doo doo doo.

Gurgle. :(

Then I will refuse to call you a person, since that implies a personality.

Oh yeah? Well YOU are a mean poopy head. :mad:

http://www.awkwardboners.com

http://www.awkwardboners.comwow. if ever there were a site I was NOT interested in finding out about.....

http://www.awkwardboners.comI knew you'd make it to the top eventually!

From here (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=64566768063&topic=9151):

· Missing custom team speechbank "StarWorms" now added.

I guess it's in the EU version, I just never noticed it.

Darn I should have copyrighted it and sued them :p

Still seems to be working :eek:

I was sent a nice handy link for these sort of situations:

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forum.team17.com

So next time the forum's down you can pretend it's an infrequent occurrence and check to see whether it's down for everyone or just you.

Obviously you won't be able to click that link when you can't get here, so bookmark it. It works for other sites, too, obviously.

I was sent a nice handy link for these sort of situations:

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forum.team17.com

So next time the forum's down you can pretend it's an infrequent occurrence and check to see whether it's down for everyone or just you.

Obviously you won't be able to click that link when you can't get here, so bookmark it. It works for other sites, too, obviously.
I love that site, I've used it so many times in the past. It's also useful if you've set up a webserver and want to know if it works.

I'd not heard of it before this evening but I immediately thought of this place once I had. ;)

I usually use the WorldLingo.com website translator to check whether websites and web services are visible to the outside world. Then you can see not only whether it's up or down, but also whether it's displaying the actual content or just spitting out an error message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDcL6lHYI-Y

What is the point in me emailling the graduation office if they only reply to my email after I go to university and ask them to?

So sue me :p

Way to go, Sooty!

Oh hell yes.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6024/10keszscnezet2e4.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6024/10keszscnezet2e4.jpg)

Oh hell yes.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6024/10keszscnezet2e4.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6024/10keszscnezet2e4.jpg)
this is pretty cool but what is it? looks kinda like xen but i don't know

I believe that has something to do with Starcraft.

It's a Starcraft Zerg base.

Nice. :)

Hah, wow. That's awesome.

My mind is yet to be corrupted by such nerdiness :p

OMG SUGAR RUSH!


No?

Volcane (the Team17 server administrator) has been using a StarCraft avatar on MSN for as long as he's been in my list.

Conclusion: Team17 plays StarCraft. So should you.

Just looking at my Google history... I have made 18881 (yay palindrome!) searches since 29 August 2005, which probably equates to roughly 5000 per year and 16 per day.

I've only got around 6000 since 2006, but then I rarely check my login before googling.

Also, the last day that I did not perform a search on Google was 6 December 2008. I need a life. :p

Also, the last day that I did not perform a search on Google was 6 December 2008. I need a life. :p
For using Google every day since 6th December '08 or for actually finding that piece of information out? :p

For using Google every day since 6th December '08 or for actually finding that piece of information out? :pyes .

I've only got around 6000 since 2006, but then I rarely check my login before googling.
I log out before googling...

I log out before googling...
1) That won't stop Google tracking you if they really wanted to (how many people user your IP? plus cookies...)
2) You can simply turn off Web History tracking

So in this age of new fangled technologies and things, Opera has come out with Opera Unite (http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/06/16/)! A revolutionary new thing that lets you share files, media, chat, host websites and more, with your computer acting as the web server, as opposed to some third-party. :p

...well, I'm not sure how revolutionary it really is, but it is convenient. To try it out, here's all my MP3 (http://home.supsuper.operaunite.com/media_player/), password is "cheese".

One of my friends is apparently now working at PC World. Now admittedly, she's not a close friend so I don't know her too well, but if someone asked me to pick who would be the least suited to a job like that, I would've picked her.

One of my friends is apparently now working at PC World. Now admittedly, she's not a close friend so I don't know her too well, but if someone asked me to pick who would be the least suited to a job like that, I would've picked her.

Even though you don't know her too well...

Why, exactly, would you not have picked her? And where are you going with this?

For anyone not from the UK, PC World is a place where things either "don't exist," or they "do exist and Maplin definitely sells them." For example, you cannot purchase USB to Serial adaptors from PC World because no-one makes them, but Maplin sells a lead to go from HDMI to SCART for about £10. Both of those are bull****.

I have it on good authority that there is no combination of plugs that Maplin don't sell a cable with. Last week I bought a lead with a mini headphones jack on one end, and a 13-amp mains plug on the other end.

I just really needed something to make my stereo emit a really loud bottom G and then explode.

Hm. I'm going to take this to mean that it's past my bedtime.

Hm. I'm going to take this to mean that it's past my bedtime.

AT: You get a 13-amp plug to normal-sized headphone jack with the ZX81 (by normal size I mean the size you get on computers - not the mini size you get on phones, nor the big size on amps)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZX81_Interface.jpg Doesn't look quite like mains to me, there's no way mains down a 3.5mm jack could pass any sort of safety check.

Oh, no, there is a transformer along the way :p

(I forgot to mention that...)

Not good news for F1... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8108488.stm

He's Barack Obama... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFdAJRVm94)

No, he's Barack Obama! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSihhNpLMyY&feature=related)

And he's all over Japan.

No, this is Barack Obama! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTBzkd93FBs)

Who the hell comes up with these stupid forms?

I have to fill one in and one section asks about people who live with me.

I quote:

Please tell us about:

Relatives who live with you
Friends who live with you


Do not tell us about:

Relatives or friends you live with


What a load of b******s.

That's fairly straightforward. If you live with them, don't write it. If they live with you, do.

I'll hear no complaining of Western forms while Japanese bureaucracy exists. There have been multiple occasions where I've been required to write quite in-detail personal detail about myself 2 or 3 times on the same sheet of paper, for the same questions, just under different sections. As though my address was likely to have changed while I was filling in the first bit.

I have also seen forms asking for the date on no less than 5 dotted lines, all on one sheet.

Maybe they cut out that form by sections, to be filed in different places?

I hope to god there is such a good reason behind it. They have a astounding habit of expending unnecessary effort in all kinds of aspects of life here.

McMaster was pretending to be me on a small writing forum.

Which is weird.

McMaster was pretending to be me on a small writing forum.

Which is weird.
you're so popular

McMaster was pretending to be me on a small writing forum.

Which is weird.

Actually, that was me pretending to be McMaster pretending to be you.

Unless someone else was pretending to be me. I can't be sure.

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy identity competition, Ben!

Well, if you were McMaster, wouldn't you want to be someone else?

Went to a Blues Band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blues_Band) concert in Pontadawe :). Good stuff, although a bit of a shame they didn't play some of my favourite songs like Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time and Halleluah I Just Love Her So. Certainly made a chance, I don't go to concerts much.

Went to a Blues Band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blues_Band) concert in Pontadawe :). Good stuff, although a bit of a shame they didn't play some of my favourite songs like Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time and Halleluah I Just Love Her So. Certainly made a chance, I don't go to concerts much.

Sounds good. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

McMaster was pretending to be me on a small writing forum.

Which is weird.

Was he convincing?

I've just noticed you can see how much of your life you've wasted here!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=8037

Yeh, we've seen this before.

...

I'm unnervingly high, considering I'm never here :s

I've just noticed you can see how much of your life you've wasted here!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=8037

Good to see I still reign supreme :p

This doesn't take into account time wasted writing avatar generating scripts, does it?

Oh no, this is only 100%OT

I choose to assume it's broadly representative of OD as a whole.

Still bringing up the top 3, but I'm slipping.

whee, i've broken top five :cool:

12 posts! Oh yeah!

I choose to assume it's broadly representative of OD as a whole.Looking at the standings of Run, M3ntal, Kjatte et al would refute that claim.

Or have they all not been here that much? I've lost track.

Found this when I was looking through my old posts:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23638

And all because I said "times infinate" [sic]


EDIT: Also note how I used to think txt-spk was cool back then (hey, I was 10 back then), and I actually went out of my way to spell "any" with more letters...

edit: Also note how i used to think txt-spk was cool back then (hey, i was 10 back then), and i actually went out of my way to spell "any" with more letters...ne1 4 10s?

Franpa just IMed me on MSN and told me that when he runs W:A, it sounds like this:

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/2366f9da257a104e94d66e739bb405d4/Untitled.wma

(That's the Windows 7 "Critical stop" sound looping over and over in the background.)

Personally, I found it hilarious. It's as if W:A itself is revolting against Franpa using it. :p

I never thought this was possible, but it seems the Windows default sound effects are getting worse and more annoying.

Franpa just IMed me on MSN and told me that when he runs W:A, it sounds like this:

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/2366f9da257a104e94d66e739bb405d4/Untitled.wma

(That's the Windows 7 "Critical stop" sound looping over and over in the background.)

Personally, I found it hilarious. It's as if W:A itself is revolting against Franpa using it. :p

Hahaha. Certainly has a musical quality to it.

I never thought this was possible, but it seems the Windows default sound effects are getting worse and more annoying.

My computer plays Cars by Gary Newman when it shuts down. If you use XP, odds are so does yours.

I don't.


Also, it's "Gary Numan"

Franpa just IMed me on MSN and told me that when he runs W:A, it sounds like this:

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/2366f9da257a104e94d66e739bb405d4/Untitled.wma

(That's the Windows 7 "Critical stop" sound looping over and over in the background.)

Personally, I found it hilarious. It's as if W:A itself is revolting against Franpa using it. :pI thought the Windows 7 sounds were the same as Vista's (or at least they are in the RC). Hmm, maybe I should promote myself to W98/WV/W7 tester. :p

Still, it really adds a dramatic tension to W:A, like an alert siren. :D I'm not sure why Franpa goes around using a pre-final version for everyday use anyways.

I don't.


Also, it's "Gary Numan"I always get him mixed up with Gary Oldman. And I didn't really know who either of them were until recently.

Gary Oldman needs a zimmer frame and smells of wee; Gary Numan does housework and gets up to feed the baby.

Hahaha. Certainly has a musical quality to it.

Indeed. It reminded me of Wanderlust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8s4AEKrYm0) by Bjork.

My computer plays Cars by Gary Newman when it shuts down. If you use XP, odds are so does yours.

Classic :D

My computer plays Cars by Gary Newman when it shuts down. If you use XP, odds are so does yours.Great. I will never think the same of the default Windows XP shutdown sound again.

Battlefield Heroes has gone public! http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/ (and free)

Battlefield Heroes has gone public! http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/

I vaguely remember something about this... must have read it in Edge.

I'd gladly give it a whirl if my graphics card was... well... worthy of the title "graphics card".

Found this when I was looking through my old posts:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23638

And all because I said "times infinate" [sic]


EDIT: Also note how I used to think txt-spk was cool back then (hey, I was 10 back then), and I actually went out of my way to spell "any" with more letters...
oh my god, horigan was the ****ing worst

Battlefield Heroes has gone public! http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/ (and free)
I've briefly played the beta several months ago.
I think I'll have to check out the final product, more so because I got some extra points to spend and special medals for participating in the beta.

So, Microsoft has already released Kodu, which is their game-making... game. You know, that one that people immediately compared to LBP. It's available for 400 MS Points trough the community games website. It's a bit odd, I would have expected this to get a bit more of a fanfare. Still pondering on whether to get it or not.

I finally have a blog, conveniently titled "Paul Finally Has a Blog" (http://paulfinallyblogs.blogspot.com/)

"Astonishingly, not only is Asteroids being made into a movie, but there was an actual bidding war between four major studios for the rights. Universal Studios has emerged the winner."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/07/universal-plans-to-bring-asteroids-to-theaters.ars


Now that they've won the rights, they have to figure out how the bloody hell they're gonna turn it into a movie!

Hahaha...

http://thecybershadow.net/hax/asteroids/

"Astonishingly, not only is Asteroids being made into a movie, but there was an actual bidding war between four major studios for the rights. Universal Studios has emerged the winner."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/07/universal-plans-to-bring-asteroids-to-theaters.ars


Now that they've won the rights, they have to figure out how the bloody hell they're gonna turn it into a movie!

"We shoot them and shoot them... but that only makes more..."

Hahaha...

http://thecybershadow.net/hax/asteroids/

I like how one of the guys got the second-highest score in the first round but an abysmal one in the second.

So apparently one of our politicians has become world-famous in seconds through one single gesture...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fd1QjxKHNs&NR=1 (at 0:20)

And thus he's been fired. Or he quit. Or maybe he's really the devil. Who knows.

Mário B?

Does the B stand for Bros?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQ-WsquMwE

Brings back so many memories. :)

Saw this in yesterday's Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/02/turkey-penitents-compete-gameshow

What. The. ****.

Ooh, that reminds me:

Jesus Vs. Superman (http://www.thegoodatheist.net/2009/06/superman-better-than-jesus/)

Saw this in yesterday's Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/02/turkey-penitents-compete-gameshow

What. The. ****.

Ahahaha. I'd love to see that show. You know, with subtitles or something.

Absurd premise aside, how in the world are they gonna "evaluate" who's *really* atheist, or *really* converted? A lie detector?

Anyone who is truly atheist would never be able to change.

Anyone who is truly atheist would never be able to change.this exactly.

if you're interested in being on this show you're automatically agnostic. atheists tend to be cynics and would more likely be the viewers at home heckling :p

Anyone who is truly atheist would never be able to change.

That depends on your definition of 'atheist'.

if you're interested in being on this show you're automatically agnostic.

Unless you're interested in being on the show for other reasons such as getting a moment of fame.

So apparently one of our politicians has become world-famous in seconds through one single gesture...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fd1QjxKHNs&NR=1 (at 0:20)

And thus he's been fired. Or he quit. Or maybe he's really the devil. Who knows.
what's the big deal about that? also, just saw a very strange comment on youtube and put it in my signature

what's the big deal about that? also, just saw a very strange comment on youtube and put it in my signature
That is awesome. Did you keep the link?

That depends on your definition of 'atheist'.

One free of dogmatic delusion of the type that insists an omnipotent being is certainly in existence and responsible for everything?

Unless you're interested in being on the show for other reasons such as getting a moment of fame.Or just getting a free trip. :p


So a friend of mine has formed a company and they're working on something kinda like Google Wave, an API that allows simultaneous interaction bla-di-bla.

Anyways he wanted me to spread the link around so people can try this out: http://www.beweevee.com/incrediwrite/IncrediWrite.aspx#sFN7in-ri0arWnIF9Z5imA (uses Microsoft Silverlight)

It's still slow and buggy and in development so he's looking for all the feedback you have. Creating a "new session" will give you a new link to share with people, since people in different sessions can't see each other. Well, enjoy.

The reverand who frequented my C of E primary school when I was there was the most boring person I've ever met. I actually used to be into the whole Christianity lark before he came along. He basically made be realise the whole thing was a load of bollocks, which without him would probably have taken me up until the second year of secondary school (a good 5 years), and so for that I thank him.


EDIT: Silverlight sucks. Does that one work on moonlight? If not, tell him to make it.

One free of dogmatic delusion of the type that insists an omnipotent being is certainly in existence and responsible for everything?

Right, so that would include agnostics. Heck, the way you've phrased it would include most Anglicans.