SupSuper: It doesn't work with moonlight. I would vouch for him having used crap moonlight detection; if you just copy microsoft's code it actually first checks for IE and if it's not IE then it refuses to run :p

EDIT: Either that or his silverlight version is too new and/or my moonlight version is too old.

Right, so that would include agnostics. Heck, the way you've phrased it would include most Anglicans.

Well ok, agnostics would fall under that. I fail to see how Anglicans would though, they're not free of the delusion of a god.

That is awesome. Did you keep the link?
it's from the music video for calvin harris - i'm not alone. don't remember what page or whatever

Unless you're interested in being on the show for other reasons such as getting a moment of fame.good point, but I think there would be better ways to do that. those sorts of people would be off the show pretty quick due to boredom I imagine.

it's from the music video for calvin harris - i'm not alone. don't remember what page or whatever
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=clY2RAgXpM0&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DclY2RAgXpM0
It's on the first page. Just do a search for hamsters. :p

Well ok, agnostics would fall under that. I fail to see how Anglicans would though, they're not free of the delusion of a god.

Yeah, but it's not what I'd call dogmatic.

<robot voice>woof woof</robot voice>

Yeah, but it's not what I'd call dogmatic.

I just wanted a nice strong word. :(

SupSuper: It doesn't work with moonlight. I would vouch for him having used crap moonlight detection; if you just copy microsoft's code it actually first checks for IE and if it's not IE then it refuses to run :p

EDIT: Either that or his silverlight version is too new and/or my moonlight version is too old.I have no idea what Moonlight is. Silverlight 2.0 is the latest version and it works cross-browser.

They're planning on porting it to other frameworks eventually.

What is Silverlight for and why is it better than, say, Flash?

Microsoft's marketing strategy thus far has been 'keep offering to install it until Andrew caves'. That's not how you get me to install something.

Moonlight is the open source alternative to moonlight, what mono is to .NET

Silverlight is basically .NET but in a browser. So anything you can do in .NET (that wouldn't compromise security) you can do in silverlight. I suspect though there are probably ways to slip viruses through Silverlight because you can't have anything as complex as that and made by Microsoft without there being 50,000 exploits.

Moonlight is the open source alternative to moonlight, what mono is to .NET
Uhh, well actually Silverlight is just Microsoft's Flash. It doesn't really have any advantages, except using an already widely used framework (.NET).

Oops, that should have been "moonlight is the open source alternative to Silverlight". Damn typos.

So instead of implementing all the nice HTML 5 canvas, video, etc stuff in IE8 they made their own proprietary plugin. Go microsoft.

So instead of implementing all the nice HTML 5 canvas, video, etc stuff in IE8 they made their own proprietary plugin. Go microsoft.and this is different from any time they've ever done anything else, how exactly?

What is Silverlight for and why is it better than, say, Flash?

Microsoft's marketing strategy thus far has been 'keep offering to install it until Andrew caves'. That's not how you get me to install something.Just an alternative, really, a web outlet for Microsoft technologies.

The only advantage is if you work with Visual Studio and .NET languages, Silverlight slides right in, instead of completely switching frameworks for Flash.

It probably won't go even near Flash's popularity, but at least it keeps Adobe from monopolizing.

So instead of implementing all the nice HTML 5 canvas, video, etc stuff in IE8 they made their own proprietary plugin. Go microsoft.Well it's been around since IE7 (yes it's been a while now, hasn't it), it's just nobody really cares. :p

and this is different from any time they've ever done anything else, how exactly?

It's not, it's just annoying. All this new shiny shizzel is now supported in all new major browsers except IE. Gah.

So, all major browsers, then.

IE is not by any reasonable definition a browser, as it can't to any reasonable standard display web pages.

Alas, that doesn't stop a sizeable proportion of the visitors to my site using it.

You could redirect IE users to an Opera or Firefox download. :p

I always thought IE's default homepage should be www.getfirefox.com :P

It's not, it's just annoying. All this new shiny shizzel is now supported in all new major browsers except IE. Gah.In fairness, every other browser releases a new version every week or so, Microsoft will only go to that much trouble for security updates. :p

You could redirect IE users to an Opera or Firefox download. :p

I used to have a panel on my blog that would only show for IE users that pointed them at Firefox and Opera.

I once got a comment on a forum saying "this website appears to be for [some expletive or other that I can't recall]s who think that one browser is better than another" and I just thought wow, this person has apparently confused using different browsers with race.

In fairness, every other browser releases a new version every week or so, Microsoft will only go to that much trouble for security updates. :p

That's still microsoft's fault.

I love how being on a Mac gives me no option to use IE :D

I love how being on a Mac gives me no option to use IE :Dyes, well, there always ARE benefits to selling your soul to the devil :p

It's a photo from the Thing! And only four months late, too:

32561

(Andrew, Worm Mad, myself, S2K)

It's a photo from the Thing! And only four months late, too:

32561

(Andrew, Worm Mad, myself, S2K)
ahahaha noice

hmmm.....full body paul.....you look a bit different than I'd imagined. not sure why.

Timotei, Andrew?

For some reason S2K looks like he just walked out of The Sims.

For some reason S2K looks like he just walked out of The Sims.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/sritchie/simsBen.jpg

Now that I look at it again I can see what you mean!

It's a photo from the Thing! And only four months late, too:

32561

(Andrew, Worm Mad, myself, S2K)

EVEN IF I KNOW WE CAN'T MAKE IT!

capitals

good grief! EVERYONE (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/God/10141208299?ref=nf)has a facebook these days!

good grief! EVERYONE (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/God/10141208299?ref=nf)has a facebook these days!No no no no no Aku, you're not keeping up with the times. What you should say is:

good grief! EVERYONE (http://www.twitter.com/god)has a twitter these days!

No no no no no Aku, you're not keeping up with the times. What you should say is:

good grief! EVERYONE (http://www.twitter.com/god)has a twitter these days!god on facebook I see as being a horrible attempt at giving everyone random bible quotes or just enabling them to "I'm a fan of god".....what's the point on twitter...?!

Yeah, who would want to follow god? :p

Yeah, who would want to follow god? :p *twitches*

They have the FSM on there too, so all is good.

Yeah, who would want to follow god? :p
ahahahahaa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms2klX-puUU&feature=fvst

I love this video. :cool:

Bride's bouquet brings plane down: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8149910.stm

*looks up what Pre-Raphaelite actually means*

Oh, right, they did come after Raphael but they wanted their art to hark back to a time before him.

Stupid counterintuitive names for art/philosophy movements. Postmodernism was bad enough.

I'll mod your post... er... nism!

You heard.

Got Left4Dead? Like Resident Evil games? Think that the RPD building is iconic? Then take a look at this:

http://www.dukeblooders.ch/viewitem.php?value=rpd

It's a highly accurate reproduction.

*happy dance* (http://www.cricinfo.com/engvaus2009/content/current/story/415307.html)

I believe that the forum's oldest living thread is this one:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3617

(definition of living: on the first 2 pages of the subforum and not just kept there by being both stickied and locked (a locked thread is by definition dead)).

I believe that the forum's oldest living thread is this one:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3617

(definition of living: on the first 2 pages of the subforum and not just kept there by being both stickied and locked (a locked thread is by definition dead)).I think that is obviously the case.

that thread needs to just die already. obviously nothing is going to come of it.

I think that is obviously the case.

that thread needs to just die already. obviously nothing is going to come of it.
I don't think so. :)

So my keyboard decided to spontaneously die last weekend.

So after a fit of rage and cursing the old thing, I got a Logitech G15 Keyboard:
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/08/G15_CTG.jpg

This thing is awesome. Even though it's not available in a Portuguese layout (you'd think "not enough demand" but pretty much every store here is sold out!), it is just as functional and swanky as all of Logitech's products. My particular favorite features are:
- It uses the standard button layout, unlike most modern keyboards that try to change and tweak the layout with tons of useless multimedia keys, changing button sizes and places, and more crap.
- It's very comfortable and the illuminated keys are very handy. (I know I know even though any pro PC user won't ever look down at this keyboard :p)
- The LCD screen. Even though it's got a completely open SDK, very few programs (specially games) actually make use of it. :( But, Miranda IM has a plugin that lets me chat JUST USING THE KEYBOARD AND ITS LCD SCREEN HOW IS THIS NOT COMPLETELY AWESOME?!?!?!?!
http://addons.miranda-im.org/files/screenshot/48-1-1153830676-mirandag15.jpg

yeah, I kinda wish that xfire would update their G15 LCD display thing, seeing as I can't read messages longer than, say, 10 characters on it. rather annoying when i'm in a game where xfire is borked.

http://addons.miranda-im.org/files/screenshot/48-1-1153830676-mirandag15.jpg

I saw this, and all I could think about was Pokémon.

Looks like a cool keyboard though. Orange on black for the win!

yeah, I kinda wish that xfire would update their G15 LCD display thing, seeing as I can't read messages longer than, say, 10 characters on it. rather annoying when i'm in a game where xfire is borked.I just use the Xfire plugin for Miranda, combined with the LCD plugin I've got the perfect chatting solution.

I just use the Xfire plugin for Miranda, combined with the LCD plugin I've got the perfect unnecessary piece of plastic sci-fi memorabilia.

Fixed for you :-)

It appears I have successfully installed wine on my mac. I kept putting this off for over a year now, and it turned out to be a lot painless than I expected. :p
Now, to try some... stuff... MWAHAHAHA.

edit: "a lot painless" is that correctly formulated? Or should I say "a lot less painful"? :-/

Well, "a lot more painless" or "a lot less painful" are fine. They pretty much say exactly the same thing but you can choose which you'd prefer based on what you intend to emphasise, albeit virtually pointless and subjectively subtle.

Or maybe I read too much into things. I mean, maybe I read into things too much.

Yay it feels great to run Steam on MacOS X. :cool:

There's one thing bugging me tho... I have no idea where in my hard drive it was installed. :confused:

Spotlight doesn't seem to have a clue either. :(

edit: AHA! Found it! Sneaky hidden folders. :P

~/.wine/drive_c/

EDIT: Oh wait, you found it

So... my first attempt, unsuccessful. :(

Installed Half-Life: Source, attempted to run directly from Steam, got a white screen. Can hear the sound from the little Valve intro, but can see nothing but white. Closed it, tried windowed mode, no dice. Tried with -novid, still no dice. If I move the window outside the edge of the screen and pull it back it goes black and displays some info on fps and other stuff, although it seems frozen. Restarted steam, and now it gave me that annoying "This game is not available right now" message.

I'm in the process of re-downloading. Is there anything else I should get/configure before trying to run games? Should I install directx, drivers for my graphics card, something else?

Look in the AppDB on www.winehq.org to see if there are any special things you need to do.

You can run winecfg if you want to fiddle with the config. Probably the most important thing there is that you can change the Windows version it pretends to be.

AppDB only seems to have the original Half-Life on it's list, there is no mention of HL:S.
Still not working, it just displays this: (the screen first appears white, moving it out of viewing area and back in draws this)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7855/whawha.png

- The LCD screen.
There's also a great plugin for Teamspeak, IIRC.

HL:S doesn't work.
HL2 doesn't work.
Audiosurf doesn't work.

None of the tips on Appdb seem to work.

That said, I don't have the latest version of wine because I installed using Macports. I need to compile it myself if I want the latest version. >.<

Did you try darwine (google it)? That's wine optimised for Darwin (the kernel OS X uses)

Fixed for you :-)It's much easier when you can chat right from your keyboard and not worry about full-screen applications or whatever getting in the way.

There's also a great plugin for Teamspeak, IIRC.Yeah and Skype and Ventrillo too.

http://berkolounger.livejournal.com/186551.html

Watch this pretty cool animation from the woman behind Pug davis and that depresing simpsons quoting comic.

I got my Anakin Skywalker Force FX lightsaber. I... had another moment of weakness. :p

But what the hell. It's awesome, and I'm a hard worker entitled to expensive toys.

I got my Anakin Skywalker Force FX lightsaber. I... had another moment of weakness. :p

But what the hell. It's awesome, and I'm a hard worker entitled to expensive toys.
word up, i have a darth vader one. we should fight it out

http://berkolounger.livejournal.com/186551.html

Watch this pretty cool animation from the woman behind Pug davis and that depresing simpsons quoting comic. .
Bizarre..

AHA! I knew it! Michael Jackson didn't die. He traveled to the past! (http://parabook.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/ancient-michael-jackson.jpg) :eek:

word up, i have a darth vader one. we should fight it out

Anakin Skywalker
darth vader

Wouldn't the universe explode if you did that?

Wouldn't the universe explode if you did that?you ever play any of the dragonball Z boudokai games? :p

http://berkolounger.livejournal.com/186551.html

Watch this pretty cool animation from the woman behind Pug davis and that depresing simpsons quoting comic.

That is quite something.

you ever play any of the dragonball Z boudokai games? :p

Short answer: no.

Long answer: Can't say I have, old boy.

Short answer: no.

Long answer: Can't say I have, old boy.every character in the show is in the game. every distinctive time frame has its own characters. what this basically means is that you can have young gohan fight teenage gohan and have the winner square off against saiyaman.

word up, i have a darth vader one. we should fight it outAbsolutely!Wouldn't the universe explode if you did that? Hopefully!

What I'm more confused about is that they have both Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker ones, where, correct me if I'm wrong, those are the same one, as Kenobi horked Anakin's when he blew up and gave it to Luke later. There are a few subtle differences between the models, though.

Edit: Come to think of it, that lightsaber did end up facing Vader's, didn't it? Then he lost it.

Absolutely!Hopefully!

What I'm more confused about is that they have both Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker ones, where, correct me if I'm wrong, those are the same one, as Kenobi horked Anakin's when he blew up and gave it to Luke later. There are a few subtle differences between the models, though.

Edit: Come to think of it, that lightsaber did end up facing Vader's, didn't it? Then he lost it......am I the only one who's morbidly depressed by this post? :p

.....am I the only one who's morbidly depressed by this post? :p
lol if you think that's bad re: star wars nerd-dom you don't know the people i know

Yeah, I'm not exactly a buff, trust me. :p

http://berkolounger.livejournal.com/186551.html

Watch this pretty cool animation from the woman behind Pug davis and that depresing simpsons quoting comic.

Thank you.

This article is, well, interesting: http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2009-08-20/news/those-who-practice-bestiality-say-they-re-part-of-the-next-gay-rights-movement

This article is, well, interesting: http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2009-08-20/news/those-who-practice-bestiality-say-they-re-part-of-the-next-gay-rights-movement
It's the same as with child abuse or rape.
If someone doesn't consent to various sexual activity, it should be illegal.
And children as well as animals certainly can consent to it.
In addition, the authority is abused, because an animal tied to a post doesn't really have an option.

Zoophilia becoming a new sexual revolution is just ridiculous.
Because with the same arguments you could call child abuse a sexual revolution too.
It'll always be cruelty to animals.

It's the same as with child abuse or rape.
If someone doesn't consent to various sexual activity, it should be illegal.
And children as well as animals certainly can consent to it.


i certainly hope you meant can't consent

In fairness to Rich and to researchers who back her bill, it can be difficult to find zoophiles — it seems they prefer to find you. In March, after publishing a blog post that questioned whether bestiality was really linked with rape and child molestation, as Rich claimed in public remarks, I began an email correspondence with a zoophile who had found the article online. He soon decided I was open-minded enough to discuss the subject, but he insisted on some unusual conditions to protect his anonymity.

James (not his real name) was wary of a prosecutor's subpoena for New Times phone records. So he insisted we talk only through secondlife.com

No surprise there.

i certainly hope you meant can't consent

Edit: Scratch that, I see what you meant, obviously it was a typo. (I first though you were debating can't vs doesn't).

Also, in Sweden, bestiality is actually legal, but 99.9% of cases are classed as animal abuse and you get prosecuted via that route. There was a huge movement quite recently to get it made a crime, and I believe it's happening shortly (or may have recently happened).

Sweden also had a short stint in the 70s or 80s where child pornography was made legal, which brought up the following doom: there's a library in Sweden that must carry copies of _all_ literature produced in the country. This includes the child pornography produced while it was legal. Anybody can than request copies of said literature.. ugh. There are now things being implemented to prevent that from happening - a journalist brought it to the attention of the country after successfully managing to repeatedly borrow the literature.

It's the same as with child abuse or rape.
If someone doesn't consent to various sexual activity, it should be illegal.
And children as well as animals certainly can consent to it.
In addition, the authority is abused, because an animal tied to a post doesn't really have an option.

Zoophilia becoming a new sexual revolution is just ridiculous.
Because with the same arguments you could call child abuse a sexual revolution too.
It'll always be cruelty to animals.

It's not the same as child abuse or rape. There is no evidence to say that the animals suffer in all cases. The people speaking out in the article are not advocating animals tied to posts, they are giving the animals a choice. In some cases the animal is acting as the dominant one and/or expressing enjoyment.

If you actually read the whole article, what they are suggesting is that animals may consent. From page 4:
Based on her interviews with zoos, Miletski suspects that animals consent to sex with human partners. But she concedes there is no sure way to know.

Ron, the zoophile from the western United States, points out that critics of his sexual practices "can't agree if animals are sentient or are dumb. They can't be both. If [animals] are sentient, [critics] would have to admit that animals can decide for themselves if they want intimacy when and where they choose." Ron believes this to be the case, as do the other zoos interviewed for this article. If animals are not sentient, he continues, "they don't know the difference, and what is it hurting?"

Zoophiles say they act upon the same nonverbal cues for sex as humans do. Brenner, the zoophile from Southwest Florida, asserts that humans having sex are acting on their own animal instincts. And if so, it's silly to deprive another animal of those instincts on the grounds that the animal has a less developed brain.

It's not the same as child abuse or rape. There is no evidence to say that the animals suffer in all cases. The people speaking out in the article are not advocating animals tied to posts, they are giving the animals a choice. In some cases the animal is acting as the dominant one and/or expressing enjoyment.

If you actually read the whole article, what they are suggesting is that animals may consent. From page 4:
Just because they can trigger a sexual response from it doesn't mean it's not morally wrong, just like having sex with a horny teenager.

Just because they can trigger a sexual response from it doesn't mean it's not morally wrong, just like having sex with a horny teenager.best. analogy. ever!

It's not the same as child abuse or rape. There is no evidence to say that the animals suffer in all cases. The people speaking out in the article are not advocating animals tied to posts, they are giving the animals a choice. In some cases the animal is acting as the dominant one and/or expressing enjoyment.

If you actually read the whole article, what they are suggesting is that animals may consent. From page 4:
didn't you post bestiality porn on the forum one time or something

didn't you post bestiality porn on the forum one time or something

Not funny. I was just pointing out the differences.

I did see the cartoon Worms porn on Newgrounds, but I wouldn't even have linked that here. :-/

Not funny. I was just pointing out the differences.

I did see the cartoon Worms porn on Newgrounds, but I wouldn't even have linked that here. :-/

no, seriously. i seem to recall you linking to bestiality porn somewhere, somehow, and i don't know why

I vaguely remember someone linking theirYTMND profile and there being a questionable image in one of them. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

This sums me up well (sorry Andrew :p). The picture even looks worryingly like me!

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/spad_moderator.jpg

This sums me up well (sorry Andrew :p). The picture even looks worryingly like me!

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/spad_moderator.jpg dear god, do you really look THAT geeky?!

dear god, do you really look THAT geeky?!
Not geeky, just monstrously ugly :p

I vaguely remember someone linking theirYTMND profile and there being a questionable image in one of them. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?
that sounds about right. can't remember the context though

I haven't been frequenting the forum so much since I got a job but I can see you've all tried to emulate my presence in my absence. Thank you.

Ahahahahaha british dubbing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcxz1MSPd0)

Ahahahahaha british dubbing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcxz1MSPd0)

Best. Anime dub. Ever.

that sounds about right. can't remember the context though

I linked my Peter Crouch YTMND. You found the questionable one in my profile there.

i'd still like to know what that was doing in your profile

Ahahahahaha british dubbing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcxz1MSPd0)
Seeing a joke about the Archers in an anime may have broken my brain.:eek:

i'd still like to know what that was doing in your profile

A poor attempt at humour perhaps. I've seen a lot of things on the Internet which most people would prefer not to see. It's part of the Internet's charm, whether you like it or not. :p

it has arrived my fellow geeks.

the ultimate in geekdom.

the geekiest toy ever created.

the Star Wars Force Trainer:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/7-13-years/bf1b/

Seeing a joke about the Archers in an anime may have broken my brain.:eek:

I think that was the bit that made me laugh most.

it has arrived my fellow geeks.

the ultimate in geekdom.

the geekiest toy ever created.

the Star Wars Force Trainer:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/7-13-years/bf1b/

Hmm, you could have bought one of those brainwave game controllers (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-000-OC&groupid=702&catid=288&subcat=352) instead.

Hmm, you could have bought one of those brainwave game controllers (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-000-OC&groupid=702&catid=288&subcat=352) instead.right, but this one is something physical and is star wars themed, so it's infinitely more geeky. granted, if I was actually going to be buying something like this, it would definitely be the game controller one.

so i guess the forum going down over the weekend is just part of the ebb and flow of life these days

so i guess the forum going down over the weekend is just part of the ebb and flow of life these days
Everything T17 went down. Think it was a problem with the DNS servers. Even Wormnet went kaput.

So I just got done shaving with a conventional razor rather than an electric foorrr maybe the 4th time in my life or so. Took about 10 times longer, but I think the result is, predictably, superior. Of course, my skin isn't used to it, but I'm using snooty shave products loaded with aloe and all that junk, so it isn't like my face is on fire or whatever. I'll probably have to make a habit of shaving the old fashioned way. I think a little bit of razor burn is worth the closeness and, you know, not having every other whisker just yanked out of my face.

I did manage to inflict a very neatly-spaced series of fine cuts in the upper layers of skin on my thumb and forefinger, though, from stupidly trying to clear the overgrown shmutz out of the blades, before figuring out that the same result could be achieved by running water through the back of the thing. Also worth mentioning is that that was the least shaven I've ever been, about 3 weeks since the last one. Felt like a hobo. Should have taken a before picture.

I did manage to inflict a very neatly-spaced series of fine cuts in the upper layers of skin on my thumb and forefinger, though, from stupidly trying to clear the overgrown shmutz out of the blades, before figuring out that the same result could be achieved by running water through the back of the thing.
I have done this so many times and each time I've felt like a total dumbass immediately afterwards.

"Hey let's run my hand along this sharp cutting blade DURRRR"

Hahaha, daft people.

Zeor, are you using anything prior to shaving, like a preshave gel, oil or facewash? I find that helps loads.

So I just got done shaving with a conventional razor rather than an electric foorrr maybe the 4th time in my life or so. Took about 10 times longer, but I think the result is, predictably, superior. Of course, my skin isn't used to it, but I'm using snooty shave products loaded with aloe and all that junk, so it isn't like my face is on fire or whatever. I'll probably have to make a habit of shaving the old fashioned way. I think a little bit of razor burn is worth the closeness and, you know, not having every other whisker just yanked out of my face.

I did manage to inflict a very neatly-spaced series of fine cuts in the upper layers of skin on my thumb and forefinger, though, from stupidly trying to clear the overgrown shmutz out of the blades, before figuring out that the same result could be achieved by running water through the back of the thing. Also worth mentioning is that that was the least shaven I've ever been, about 3 weeks since the last one. Felt like a hobo. Should have taken a before picture.

If you get razor burn, I'd recommend an after shave balm (as opposed to cologne, eau de toilette or "aftershave", which is just for fragrance) - I use the "Nivia aftershave balm" and it's excellent. Without it my face goes bright red and is extremely painful. Also put on something that lathers and is for shaving before you shave, and don't go against the grain of your hair - it's better to go with the grain of the hair several times than go against it once.

Also, doing a traditional wet shave (with a badger bristle brush, a lathered up soap or cream and a safety razor that doesn't use disposable cartridges - Google image safety razor if you don't know what I mean) is, from what I've been told, much nicer on the skin and I know nobody who gets razor burn with one of those. Of course, it requires more skill to perform...

My beard grows slowly. I shaved about 2 or 3 weeks ago and my facial hair is probably 0.5-1cm.

I shave every few months because I really hate shaving. I always use my crappy £5 electric razor. It's quite alright at the time (yields a nice close shave) but the following week is itch-hell. :(

I can't be bothered with grooming products. I'm a lazy, furry kind of guy. Plus the hobo look kinds suits me.

Yeah, I was using a good foaming shaving gel with, like I said, buttloads of aloe and all that. Worked pretty well. Even going against the grain didn't bother me much, just as the razor itself had advertised, so yay for that.

Sounds like I take the treatment pretty well. :p Today, however, I noticed I missed a spot. D'oh!

Aloe afterwards to sooth the problems, yes, but BEFORE? Anything?

...The shaving gel does go before. Didn't have anything for aftershave, no.

I mean before shaving with shaving gel. Basically, you apply stuff to your face, wash it off, then use shave gel, shave and so on. It's that bit before using shave gel and shaving I'm referring to, when you prepare your face for what you're about to do to make sure it's as easy to shave as possible. Really improving the comfort and ease at which you glide, allowing you to remove more hair without having to reshave a particular area, and completely eliminating any kind of burn or pain.

Shaving: pain, or spending lots of time buggering about to alleviate pain, the choice is yours!

In other news:

<SupSuper> Sinister, Unholy, Person-Snatching, Undertaker-Pulverizing Enigma of Rage says (22:25):
unlike in previous windows where you just had boring old "compatibility modes" that simply *faked* whatever things older programs might use / need, Windows XP Mode literally runs your program on XP and links it to windows 7 seamlessly like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_XP_Mode.PNG
Paul.Power says (22:26):
"Minefield"?
the web browser that's simultaneously a game of minesweeper!
<SupSuper> Sinister, Unholy, Person-Snatching, Undertaker-Pulverizing Enigma of Rage says (22:26):
:p
Paul.Power says (22:26):
Open a new tab - BOOM! game over
<SupSuper> Sinister, Unholy, Person-Snatching, Undertaker-Pulverizing Enigma of Rage says (22:27):
it's the name used for "under development" versions of firefox, thus the name :p
they're lower in the grade than alphas, betas and such
Paul.Power says (22:27):
the words "over" and "astronomy" contain 7,000,000 mines between them
Paul.Power says (22:28):
meanwhile, there are 2009 mines in "the" and "Guinea-Bissau"
<SupSuper> Sinister, Unholy, Person-Snatching, Undertaker-Pulverizing Enigma of Rage says (22:28):
:p
Paul.Power says (22:28):
to win you have to bookmark all the mines
Paul.Power says (22:29):
Although there's a cheat code - type in "rss" and it'll flag up mines for you

In other other news:

Paul.Power says (00:41):
I really enjoyed Bryson's book on Shakespeare
Paul.Power says (00:42):
It was a very straightforward "we don't really know much about him, so I'm just going to state the facts and reasonable extrapolations while briefly speculating on all the competing crazy theories. As you can see, this is a short book"
Mad Un' - http://turnus.wurmz.net says (00:44):
lol
Paul.Power says (00:46):
Although if there's one theory he does get strongly behind, it's "Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare's work" :p
Paul.Power says (00:47):
*Bill Bryson, that is
Mad Un' - http://turnus.wurmz.net says (00:47):
Bill Bryon wrote Shakespeare's work?
Mad Un' - http://turnus.wurmz.net says (00:48):
that's a pretty unusual theory
so I guess he must have had some method of time-travel
Paul.Power says (00:48):
to be or not to be listening to cricket on the radio while being blissfully unaware of what the heck it is they're talking about
Paul.Power says (00:49):
Macbeth will be king until I get in a light aircraft again
Mad Un' - http://turnus.wurmz.net says (00:50):
lol
Paul.Power says (00:51):
Run over by two gentlemen of Verona, but not out of malice or anything, they just have more important things on their mind than paying attention to the road

I mean before shaving with shaving gel. Basically, you apply stuff to your face, wash it off, then use shave gel, shave and so on. It's that bit before using shave gel and shaving I'm referring to, when you prepare your face for what you're about to do to make sure it's as easy to shave as possible. Really improving the comfort and ease at which you glide, allowing you to remove more hair without having to reshave a particular area, and completely eliminating any kind of burn or pain.Hm. I think the aloe-loaded gel did the job for me. :p Adding aftershave wouldn't hurt, though.

I'm for prevention rather than cure.

Paul probably sees shaving itself as buggering about, judging by his photos ;)

I mean before shaving with shaving gel. Basically, you apply stuff to your face, wash it off, then use shave gel, shave and so on. It's that bit before using shave gel and shaving I'm referring to, when you prepare your face for what you're about to do to make sure it's as easy to shave as possible. Really improving the comfort and ease at which you glide, allowing you to remove more hair without having to reshave a particular area, and completely eliminating any kind of burn or pain.

That's all fine, it's the bit beforehand that I don't like. You know, the pre-pre-shaving gel gel. And getting out of bed. I hate that.

Eh. I only use soap for shaving, nothing else. I get a very minor itch sometimes, and no burn.

I shave by mashing a rough stone against my face.

I wash myself with a rag on a stick.

Plasma: huh
Plasma: hello?
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: yes?
Plasma: apparently, I now have a girlfriend
Plasma: I don't quite know how that happened
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: i see
Plasma: I feel the need to tell you that, on the hopes that it'd sink in
Plasma: oh, and if it matters, she also lives in Portugal
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: consider me sunk
Plasma: actually, I meant sink in for me
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: ah
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: do you often randomly run into girlfriends completely far away from you?
Plasma: I didn't think so, but apparently so
{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: well i'm sure it'll be a lesson for us all


GUESS WHO DIDN'T LEARN HIS LESSON THE FIRST TIME

I can't work that out. He finds another girl in a foreign country, but decides to tell you, specifically?

Well ok, it makes some sense, as you live in Portugal, but that's still weird.

{PoE} SupSuper ±PGD±: do you often randomly run into girlfriends completely far away from you?
Plasma: I didn't think so, but apparently so

Well, to quote Ian Fleming: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, any more is enemy action.

So I guess you can call off the preemptive strike for now, but if he eventually dumps her and finds a third overseas girlfriend, then the alarm bells should start to ring.

At that point, though, it wouldn't really be 'pre-emptive' any more.

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So all of Plasma's girlfriends have never met him before?

Why does this not surprise me? (Rhetorical question)

I thought he met Kelster and she ran a mile...

I can't work that out. He finds another girl in a foreign country, but decides to tell you, specifically?I was as shocked as you are. I hate his guts, try to avoid him as much as possible, and don't really hide it. Does that make us close buds in his mind?

I thought he met Kelster and she ran a mile...
That's right. As soon as they meet him, they stop being his girlfriend.

Is he super ugly or something? Maybe he smells bad?

Is he super ugly or something? Maybe he smells bad?why can't it be both?

Maybe she does.

Maybe he ended up getting her pregnant.

Maybe he ended up getting her pregnant.I doubt he's equipped for that.

Poor Plasma. :(

Poor Plasma. :(

Wait, what?

Is that... sympathy?

We really have to hope Plasma never gets invited into OD now :p Or at least hope that if he does, he never reads this thread.

Does anyone actually know why he split up with Kelster, after their meet-up? If I remember correctly, wasn't he saving up for about a year to be able to afford the airfare to fly out to her?

We really have to hope Plasma never gets invited into OD now :p Or at least hope that if he does, he never reads this thread.

Does anyone actually know why he split up with Kelster, after their meet-up? If I remember correctly, wasn't he saving up for about a year to be able to afford the airfare to fly out to her?

No idea. Well, you know how it is... it's not the sort of thing one pries into.

Does anyone actually know why he split up with Kelster, after their meet-up? If I remember correctly, wasn't he saving up for about a year to be able to afford the airfare to fly out to her?
Well he told me that he flew out to Canada to see her, and when he got there, she dumped him on the first day because "he doesn't get out much". :confused: So he still had to spend the rest of his holiday over in Canada with her despite that they weren't going out anymore.

It's all a bit weird.

Well he told me that he flew out to Canada to see her, and when he got there, she dumped him on the first day because "he doesn't get out much". :confused: So he still had to spend the rest of his holiday over in Canada with her despite that they weren't going out anymore.

It's all a bit weird.
A.HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh god that's terrible.

I would expect plasma to look like this:

Well he told me that he flew out to Canada to see her, and when he got there, she dumped him on the first day because "he doesn't get out much". :confused: So he still had to spend the rest of his holiday over in Canada with her despite that they weren't going out anymore.

It's all a bit weird.It's hilarious just imagining how awkward that would be!

It's hilarious just imagining how awkward that would be!

And heartbreaking and soul destroying. Ooh, and don't forget belittling and emasculating.

Hilarious! :D

"he doesn't get out much"

Isn't that the sort of thing you'd try to find out before you met up?

Also, he did get out of Ireland and into Canada or wherever. That's hardly very recluse, is it?

Acutally, that just makes it even more hilarious.

Well he told me that he flew out to Canada to see her, and when he got there, she dumped him on the first day because "he doesn't get out much". :confused: So he still had to spend the rest of his holiday over in Canada with her despite that they weren't going out anymore.

It's all a bit weird.
oh my god that makes it probably ten times better

Well he told me that he flew out to Canada to see her, and when he got there, she dumped him on the first day because "he doesn't get out much". :confused: So he still had to spend the rest of his holiday over in Canada with her despite that they weren't going out anymore.

It's all a bit weird.

His idea of a "fun time with the Missus " was probably stuck indoors in front of a computer playing 2-player games. Her idea probably involved going outside and doing stuff that normal people would consider "fun".

Not being normal, I wouldn't know what that stuff is :p

We really have to hope Plasma never gets invited into OD now :p Or at least hope that if he does, he never reads this thread.

I think that's all the more reason for him to get invited.

Yeah, there are more of us than there are of him, and two of us are mods. I reckon we're pretty safe.

That's pretty sad. I feel sorry for him if that's the truth. She could have at least gave it some time, and if she thought she saw flaws, try to improve them. Poor lad. Better off without.

That's pretty sad. I feel sorry for him if that's the truth. She could have at least gave it some time, and if she thought she saw flaws, try to improve them. Poor lad. Better off without.
Yeah, for all our making fun, I thought it was really harsh.

Still funny though.

"he doesn't get out much"
Perhaps he didn't "get out much" with his you-know-what from her you-know-where.

Best not to speculate really, bonz. All things considered, it's really not our business.

So I guess if it lasted less than a day after actually meeting up it was the kind of 'first relationship' thing where the imagined a deeper connection than really existed.

But... how long did it last? Long enough to justify a flight to Canada? I can't get my head around that. This kind of practice relationship is meant to last a week or two. A real relationship that lasts that long shouldn't break down the first time you meet unless one of you has lied about their gender.

Unless, of course, Kelster is mental. In any case, far better off without.

Edit: yes, best not to speculate. But this tab's been open for ages.

Kelster is mental. I'm voting for that. "Doesn't get out much" does sound like the kind of ass-backwards reasoning she would throw.

I'm voting both are nuts in different ways, thus not compatible.

Also, it is my duty to inform everyone that cares (not a lot) that Opera 10 (http://www.opera.com) is out and it is, in fact, faster. Sadly Opera Unite was post-poned to a later release. That is all.

isn't kelster a furry or something

And she's concerned if Plasma doesn't get out much?

Oh, we have to invite them to OD now. Anyone who can pull off this elaborate a practical joke and have us all believe them has to be fun.

Oh, we have to invite them to OD now. Anyone who can pull off this elaborate a practical joke and have us all believe them has to be fun.

no dont

Kelster doesn't seem to be on the forum much, if at all, now... I seem to remember her being a keen promoter of Shadowmoon & yauhui's forum...

I seem to remember her being a keen promoter of Shadowmoon & yauhui's forum...

Well there's proof for the mental theory then. :p

I just got a notification that a friend sent me a message on facebook, but it redirects to another site, which seems dodgy (though I closed it before it loaded). If you get something similar, right click the link and see where it directs before opening the link.

More info here: http://gfreeman.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/

yo, grim, what's up with the avatar?

Tell the friend and report it to facebook.

yo, grim, what's up with the avatar?

A cold and uncaring universe, that's what's up. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787) :(

R.I.P. Beanie. Ye shall be missed.

A cold and uncaring universe, that's what's up. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787) :(

R.I.P. Beanie. Ye shall be missed.
but the beanie isn't disappearing for good, is it?

but the beanie isn't disappearing for good, is it?no. it seems grim got his while idling and as such it'll be taken away.

haha, and here i'm getting a halo :p

A cold and uncaring universe, that's what's up. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787) :(

R.I.P. Beanie. Ye shall be missed.

Oh, so that's why I have a halo.

It's quite funny to kill spies using it though.

Cheating scum!

A cold and uncaring universe, that's what's up. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787) :(

R.I.P. Beanie. Ye shall be missed.Let us mourn together.

A cold and uncaring universe, that's what's up. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787) :(

R.I.P. Beanie. Ye shall be missed.
At least something hilarious came out of the whole "hatocaust". (http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=17095240&postcount=1289)

At least something hilarious came out of the whole "hatocaust". (http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=17095240&postcount=1289)
Ahahahahahahahaha. Damnit that's clever. :P

At least something hilarious came out of the whole "hatocaust". (http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=17095240&postcount=1289)hahahaa! that is indeed awesome.

"On the 9th SEPTEMBER, a world of property empire building on an unimaginable scale will be launched! A live worldwide game of MONOPOLY using Google Maps as the game board."

http://www.monopolycitystreets.com/

Quick note to say that, from tomorrow, people living in Europe won't be able to sign up to Pangya US (this will not affect existing European accounts). So if you live in Europe and you've always wanted to play Zeor, Sup, me, etc. at eccentric fantasy golf but were too afraid to ask, today's your last chance to sign up.

"On the 9th SEPTEMBER, a world of property empire building on an unimaginable scale will be launched! A live worldwide game of MONOPOLY using Google Maps as the game board."

http://www.monopolycitystreets.com/I can imagine that would go on for ages... I roll a 7... oh look another street I haven't visited before... now I own 11 streets in the world, only 8918053789 more to go!

Though I'm guessing it's just Monopoly with renamed streets. At least they're not doing that voting process again... it was possible for people to vote an unlimited number of times... no wonder Exeter and Keele got the top spots.

Quick note to say that, from tomorrow, people living in Europe won't be able to sign up to Pangya US (this will not affect existing European accounts). So if you live in Europe and you've always wanted to play Zeor, Sup, me, etc. at eccentric fantasy golf but were too afraid to ask, today's your last chance to sign up.

What if you register through a proxy?

Though I'm guessing it's just Monopoly with renamed streets.

I'm not really sure how it works, but I'm not that interested in finding out. The site seems kinda slow anyway.

http://kotaku.com/5355958/see-ninja-gaiden-sigma-ii-boob-bouncing-in-action

Now THIS is controller innovation. :cool:

I thought this might be the case; Caster Semenya has tested as intersexual (both male and female): http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8249948.stm

Leading up to this the press didn't understand what the test was about and presumed the IAAF thought she was a man.

So what was up with Derren Brown's lottery prediction show? Was it really 58 minutes of nonsense about DEEP MATHS and his usual tricks dressed up in another form, 2 minutes of "haha you guys thinking I fixed the lottery you are dumbasses" and one sentence of "C'mon guys it was just a trick"?

So was it just a camera trick? I feel a bit disappointed.

So what was up with Derren Brown's lottery prediction show? Was it really 58 minutes of nonsense about DEEP MATHS and his usual tricks dressed up in another form, 2 minutes of "haha you guys thinking I fixed the lottery you are dumbasses" and one sentence of "C'mon guys it was just a trick"?

So was it just a camera trick? I feel a bit disappointed.

Can I just say that, without even watching the show, that would be exactly what I'd expect from a Derren Brown show simply going on the basis of what I've heard about him in the past?

Saying that, I'm predisposed to like someone with Derren Brown's attitude. A good dose of scepticism never did anyone any harm*.

* this statement is blatantly not true when you consider, for example, Galileo. Oh look I'm being sceptical about scepticism. Fun times.

The DEEP MATHS wasn't nonsense, to be fair, it was just monumentally irrelevant.

The rest seemed to be fairly standard Derren fare. I'm not really disappointed he didn't reveal the real method, because I'm pretty sure we, the internet, have it figured anyway, but the 'wisdom of crowds' explanation was obviously nonsense and I didn't like the way it was presented as The Answer.

Some top class Derren funny in there, though.

The DEEP MATHS wasn't nonsense, to be fair, it was just monumentally irrelevant.

Oh, so I wasn't stupid for not spotting why Penney's Game was relevant.

I am Heavy Weapons Zeor.

And this is my weapon (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Mosin_M1891_30_1854.jpg).

No seriously, I now own one of these as an arbitrary gift. Pretty nasty Russian piece of work.

I fully expect to completely lose my arm upon firing it. :p

The DEEP MATHS wasn't nonsense, to be fair, it was just monumentally irrelevant.

The rest seemed to be fairly standard Derren fare. I'm not really disappointed he didn't reveal the real method, because I'm pretty sure we, the internet, have it figured anyway, but the 'wisdom of crowds' explanation was obviously nonsense and I didn't like the way it was presented as The Answer.

Some top class Derren funny in there, though.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting a real explanation on how to predict the lottery (because it's impossible), but every other time he's gone on to explain how he does things (like using extremely good memory to cheat at cards, or beat people at chess, etc.) they usually seem plausible (or maybe even are the truth in those two cases), but the "explanation" in this show wasn't plausible in the slightest and none of it seemed in the slightest bit relevant.

I usually love everything he does, and know all his "magic" boils down to is tricking people, but this is the first time I felt that he was treating the viewers as being complete dumbasses and I just felt like he was insulting my intelligence. I felt it was more like Uri Geller than Derren Brown.

It was just a lame trick with a screen. They froze the side with the balls and changed them as they came up.

I'm not a fan of Derren Brown. Many of his 'tricks' are just a case of repeating them several times until they work, and using that as the clip on the programme. Such as the horse racing betting, the 10 coin flip.

There was also one I saw where he invited 3 or 4 people into a room, and each took a chocolate mini-roll and sat down. He predicated where each would sit and which chocolate they would take (they were all the same and lined up in a row). Now, I know he would be able to have a good guess at those, but he makes out that he knows for sure - which is impossible. There's too much randomness in the system. He then asked them to eat the mini-roll and the one left over had a blade in it.

Then there's the russian roulette episode - the gun wasn't loaded (fair enough).

It's all just a gimmick. I just wish he would use proper illusions. I like his mind trick stuff where he influences people to do things, but half of his stuff anybody could do.

Considering that all his explanations so far have been reasonable, it's too soon to start slagging him off for his most recent one when we haven't seen the rest of the series yet. He said that people are predictable when shocked... maybe he has a further point to prove.

Today is now officially programmers day (http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/09/russias-new-holiday-programmers-day.html)!

Thanks Medvedev!

Considering that all his explanations so far have been reasonable, it's too soon to start slagging him off for his most recent one when we haven't seen the rest of the series yet. He said that people are predictable when shocked... maybe he has a further point to prove.Well my point really is that his explanations are not reasonable. For the lottery trick he claimed to ask several people and took the average - a load of bollocks. It's simply a middle finger to anyone who bothered to watch his programme.

Today is now officially programmers day (http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/09/russias-new-holiday-programmers-day.html)!

Thanks Medvedev!

Hah! Brilliant.

I shall call him Med The Dev.

Well my point really is that his explanations are not reasonable. For the lottery trick he claimed to ask several people and took the average - a load of bollocks. It's simply a middle finger to anyone who bothered to watch his programme.

I know what your point is. All his explanations up 'til now have been reasonable. That is mine. Give the man a little time first.

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

KITTYMAIL (http://imgur.com/JwrTV.jpg)

*asplodes*

I idly clicked on the "Spam" folder in Google Mail and discovered that a fairly large number of the emails were from "me".

What will those spammers think of next.

"Yes, this is you."

No it isn't, **** off. I signed up for Google Mail a while back and when I first logged in I had spam. Is being worMatty a crime?

I reckon I've had less than 10 spam emails (ie, those that go to the spam folder) to my Google Mail account in the 5+ years i've had it. I feel left out :(

I also get a fair bit of spam from me. Will I never learn?

I tend to go out of my way to ignore every rule about not publishing your e-mail everywhere and not getting spammed, just to see how well Gmail holds. And so far, 99% of all spam has been automatically classified as Spam, so I'd say it's doing a good job.

one time i accidentally posted to a newsgroup using my primary e-mail. big mistake

The thing about Google Mail is that 99.9% of the time it recognises the spam and puts it in the spam folder. Other email accounts I have had could barely recognise 50%. I probably only get about one or two spam emails in my inbox every couple of months.

The thing about Google Mail is that 99.9% of the time it recognises the spam and puts it in the spam folder. Other email accounts I have had could barely recognise 50%. I probably only get about one or two spam emails in my inbox every couple of months.same here, and I'd mistakenly used my primary e-mail for public sites before. it's gotten to the point now that I just go ahead and use it on everything cause gmail blocks all the spam anyway.

It be time to say some words in a piratical fashion, yarrrr

It be time to say some words in a piratical fashion, yarrrr

Arrrr, it be also time t' get some free loot. (http://www.telltalegames.com/)

On that note:

32674

instant win!

Cool you also have The Ancestors Tale.

Cool you also have The Ancestors Tale.

Although the funny thing is that I haven't really read it yet. See I read The Blind Watchmaker and The Selfish Gene, really enjoyed them, thought "hmm maybe I could ask for another Dawkins book for my birthday" and then kind of got put off by the sheer length of it :(.

Wow, over 400 pages of off-topicness, no matter which "posts-per-page" setting you use :D

Wow, over 400 pages of off-topicness, no matter which "posts-per-page" setting you use :D

But wait, if we're being off-topic in the off-topic thread, doesn't that mean we're being ON-topic?

But wait, if we're being off-topic in the off-topic thread, doesn't that mean we're being ON-topic?
Yes, and by being on-topic, that means that this thread is off-topic so should really be closed for having gone off-topic ages ago.


*Thread closed*

:p

There's only one solution to this... we have to change the name of the thread.

Although the funny thing is that I haven't really read it yet. See I read The Blind Watchmaker and The Selfish Gene, really enjoyed them, thought "hmm maybe I could ask for another Dawkins book for my birthday" and then kind of got put off by the sheer length of it :(.

I really like it, but the first third of the book is definitely the most interesting part. That's when he discusses the methods used etc. After that it gets a little repetitive as he plows through the list of species, it's still interesting but you feel that you've gotten the point. I would like to make people read the first hundred pages, but keep the rest optional.

I like that the whole book is currently optional and I wish not to partake in your fascist regime of literary obligation.

But wait, if we're being off-topic in the off-topic thread, doesn't that mean we're being ON-topic?

Depends whether off-topic counts as a topic itself. You can't be on-topic if there is no topic.

Now it seems we've become meta-topic.

Now it seems we've become meta-topic.perhaps we should clear this whole thing up with a bit of topical ointment.

XD win! I just noticed something on my music playlist. the one metallica song I have on it (Unforgiven II) is song number 666 on my full list.

XD win! Are you feeling alright?

XD win! I just noticed something on my music playlist. the one metallica song I have on it (Unforgiven II) is song number 666 on my full list.

You only have one metallica song in your list and it's unforgiven II? I am disappoint. :mad:

I really like it, but the first third of the book is definitely the most interesting part. That's when he discusses the methods used etc. After that it gets a little repetitive as he plows through the list of species, it's still interesting but you feel that you've gotten the point. I would like to make people read the first hundred pages, but keep the rest optional.

As it happens, my shameful confession a few posts ago prompted me to start reading it, and I'm really enjoying it. Just finished The Dodo's Tale.

You only have one metallica song in your list and it's unforgiven II? I am disappoint. :mad:

It's a good song :p

You only have one metallica song in your list and it's unforgiven II? I am disappoint. :mad:it's a good song....not sure why I've only got that one, though. I actually have 4 of their CDs and there are other songs worth having on my computer (I used to be a big fan, but not as much anymore). really should rip the CDs...

and yes, zeor, I think I've just been talking to my friend ana too much...

Didn't say it was a bad song. :p Just that there are better ones. The first unforgiven, for instance. :cool:

Didn't say it was a bad song. :p Just that there are better ones. The first unforgiven, for instance. :cool:I actually prefer the second :p

The first unforgiven, for instance. :cool:

*plays that now*

I like 'em all quite a lot, but first is definitely my fave.

I like Apocalyptica.

Heh. Their version of The Unforgiven just doesn't quite work as well. Most of the stuff on World's Collide, however, I thought was superb.

I think Apocalyptica are better since they got a drummer.

It may just be that I heard them both at around the same time but I always associate them with Shining. I like Shining, too. And Merzbow, from time to time. Perhaps I'm deviating from the associations a little with that, though.

I saw a guy today in the art building of my college. he just walked by and I didn't think anything of it. I later saw him crossing the street and realized he looked somewhat familiar. well I finally realized it. he's a carbon copy of paul.

paul. I know you're all into science and everything, but stop cloning yourself. it's disturbing :p

I think Apocalyptica are better since they got a drummer.

It may just be that I heard them both at around the same time but I always associate them with Shining. I like Shining, too. And Merzbow, from time to time. Perhaps I'm deviating from the associations a little with that, though.

I was totally bored with this conversation until someone said Merzbow. Hell. Yes.

I actually prefer the second :p

Oh right, I forgot we had established way back that you have bad taste.


:p

Oh right, I forgot we had established way back that you have bad taste.


:pobviously. I keep carrying out conversations with you. :cool:

You who like Merzbow should like the S.T.A.L.K.E.R soundtrack (http://www.stalker-game.com/en/?page=soundtrack). About half of it is available on their site. At first I thought Merzbow was dark ambient like this because one of his tracks began slow, but I soon realised it's all just random noise. Stalker's music is better, and gives you that same warm and cozy end-of-the-world feeling.

Oh right, I forgot we had established way back that you have bad taste.


:p
i have the best taste in music of anyone on these goddamn boards

obviously. I keep carrying out conversations with you. :cool:
Indeed, because it's part of your therapy to cure bad taste. :cool:
i have the best taste in music of anyone on these goddamn boards
So you actually like music other than Eric Prydz - Call on me ?

No, don't be stupid, Angel. Pfft!

Porcupine Tree's new album The Incident is pretty awesome.

/random

i have the best taste in music of anyone on these goddamn boards

I'll take that challenge

i have the best taste in music of anyone on these goddamn boards

By definition, everyone thinks they have the best taste in the world because they are judging it against itself.

16000 - 6

It's over NINE THOUSAAAND!

I just picked up Apocalyptica's album Amplified, and I quite like it so far. Nothing Else Matters in particular. Translates pretty well to their sound.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/578961774.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:cool:

Damnit now Aku can't make us feel better about our crap internet connections.

Okay, hands up, who actually gives a **** about their internet connection speed or anyone else's?

I care about my internet connection speed but don't give a **** about anyone elses and think anyone who posts up their speed just to show off is a tit.