The real Enterprises can't fly or shoot either - they're usually models of the size of about ten feet.

You are quite lacking some mental cinema aren't you.

Sarcasm fail.

Ok, three reasons why Minecraft already is awesome:

1. A game with hardly any restrictions, you can do, explore and build whatever you want, it encourages the player's creativity.

2. The community, providing a variety of different servers filled with awesome creations by many different people, mods, and of course, playing with your friends on an own server is great fun, too.

3. Creepers.

Don't wanna say Terraria isn't going to be great, it's just probably not going to surpass Minecraft. Firstly because it's 2D and this will inevitably restrict constructiveness (although it should still be possible to create varieties of cool buildings) and second it's lacking a lot of... charm, I'd say. Yes, Minecraft has a cool charm actually, the characters, the environment and the soundtracks look and sound all pretty unique. Terraria, however, looks fairly generic to me. I also dislike the music playing in the trailer.

Terraria doesn't have pedo character models.

Sarcasm fail.

I wasn't being sarcastic. The movies lead us to believe that thing could fly, so why not just use your mental cinema in Minecraft to believe it could fly? I mean, if you really need it to be flying to accept it as the Enterprise. I thought it might be enough to see what amazing stuff people create using Minecraft, seriously.

use your mental cinema
That is the absolute worst term for "imagination" I have ever heard.


It is also the worst excuse for a lack of a feature I have ever heard.

I agree with Plasma

*vom*

Precisely why Xbox360> PS3 :p

Eh, I'll take a week of downtime versus having to pay for something that should be free...

Eh, I'll take a week of downtime versus having to pay for something that should be free...

+2 weeks downtime over Christmas.

Oh that!

I hadn't played Minecraft yet despite all the buzz over the last few years and this discussion encouraged me to go ahead and buy it.

I've only played it an hour but it's totally awesome! It scares the crap out of me though. I guess I'm just a huge wuss.

I'd built a nice little room in this hill that had coal near it right near where I started, and after my first night stepped outside my front door to grab some iron I saw as it was getting dark.

"Hsssssssssssssss"

Three goddamn creepers right behind me that were standing on top of the hill that ambushed me as I stepped outside. I jumped into the water only to discover the hard way that you move really slowly in shallow water. I somehow survived after the blast from the first one sent me flying, but it took out the entire wall of my little cave. One square away from blasting my chest I was storing all my stuff in too, I almost lost all my coal.

So exciting, great fun.

That is the absolute worst term for "imagination" I have ever heard.

That's how we say it in German. Sorry if that weren't the right words.

It is also the worst excuse for a lack of a feature I have ever heard.

No one wants you to build the Enterprise in Minecraft. It's actually about building houses to be safe at night, but you can of course place the blocks that way they look like the Enterprise. Then saying that the fact this thing can't fly is a lack of a feature is the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

I hadn't played Minecraft yet despite all the buzz over the last few years and this discussion encouraged me to go ahead and buy it.

I've only played it an hour but it's totally awesome! It scares the crap out of me though. I guess I'm just a huge wuss.

I'd built a nice little room in this hill that had coal near it right near where I started, and after my first night stepped outside my front door to grab some iron I saw as it was getting dark.

"Hsssssssssssssss"

Three goddamn creepers right behind me that were standing on top of the hill that ambushed me as I stepped outside. I jumped into the water only to discover the hard way that you move really slowly in shallow water. I somehow survived after the blast from the first one sent me flying, but it took out the entire wall of my little cave. One square away from blasting my chest I was storing all my stuff in too, I almost lost all my coal.

So exciting, great fun.damn it, melon! I hadn't played it either. I'm not hugely into littlebigplanet and other such games. I mean, I enjoy them well enoguh, but once I put them down, I rarely have reason to pick them back up. just not my cup of tea. so imagine my surprise when I play minecraft and I spend the hour and a half GLUED to my monitor! now I'm sitting here begging for more......damn it.....I don't wanna fork out $20......

(for gods sake skip the first three minutes.)Personally I prefer this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQVHsshx_o) tour of the Enterprise :p

It is also the worst excuse for a lack of a feature I have ever heard.I think it's the best excuse for a lack of a feature I've ever heard.

Then saying that the fact this thing can't fly is a lack of a feature is the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

You need to get out more :P

No one wants you to build the Enterprise in Minecraft.

Wait, what? A minute ago we could build "ANYTHING you want!!", now we are restricted to "Houses.". What gives?

it took out the entire wall of my little cave. One square away from blasting my chest I was storing all my stuff in too, I almost lost all my coal.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5586/ssssssk.png
That's how we say it in German. Sorry if that weren't the right words.

Actually, those are metaphorically used in both German and English.
And they fit in this case.
I spend the hour and a half GLUED to my monitor! now I'm sitting here begging for more......damn it.....I don't wanna fork out $20......
You will pay the $20...

Fun facts about Minecraft you didn't know:
#23: An early alpha build of the game was actually called MindCrack.

;)

Actually, those are metaphorically used in both German and English.
And they fit in this case.I, for one, have never before heard that phrase used in my life.

You will pay the $20...

Fun facts about Minecraft you didn't know:
#23: An early alpha build of the game was actually called MindCrack.

;)but I'm not addicted just yet. I can still resist. I just don't WANT to. hence the dilemma.

Wait, what? A minute ago we could build "ANYTHING you want!!", now we are restricted to "Houses.". What gives?

You can build anything you want, it's just not going to be functional. Happy?

Minecraft seems alright. I tried for 20 minutes or so at a friend, but I don't feel a need to own it. Building things with huge blocks doesn't seem like a very effective way to express my imagination :p

Minecraft seems alright. I tried for 20 minutes or so at a friend, but I don't feel a need to own it. Building things with huge blocks doesn't seem like a very effective way to express my imagination :p

The fun part of minecraft for me is not the building of cool stuff. It's having to find resources by exploring a vast land, spelunking down deep caves, digging huge mines, all while trying to survive. And then using those resources to build cool stuff. :p

I hadn't played Minecraft yet despite all the buzz over the last few years and this discussion encouraged me to go ahead and buy it.

I've only played it an hour but it's totally awesome! It scares the crap out of me though. I guess I'm just a huge wuss.

I'd built a nice little room in this hill that had coal near it right near where I started, and after my first night stepped outside my front door to grab some iron I saw as it was getting dark.

"Hsssssssssssssss"

Three goddamn creepers right behind me that were standing on top of the hill that ambushed me as I stepped outside. I jumped into the water only to discover the hard way that you move really slowly in shallow water. I somehow survived after the blast from the first one sent me flying, but it took out the entire wall of my little cave. One square away from blasting my chest I was storing all my stuff in too, I almost lost all my coal.

So exciting, great fun.

Don't worry, explosions don't destroy materials in a chest. It just scatters them.

And I caved in.
Personally I prefer this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQVHsshx_o) tour of the Enterprise :p

Watching the Yogscast minecraft series is what prompted me to play the demo in the first place.:o

Wait, what? A minute ago we could build "ANYTHING you want!!", now we are restricted to "Houses.". What gives?

Once again it's a lego building game based on a fixed gid. Building something out of blocks and making it move is just not within the bounds of the game.

If you want to make amazing flying contraptions go and play a building game with a physics engine.

Useful point for you lot, as it's probably most relevant to this thread - we now have a spoiler tag!

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Useful point for you lot, as it's probably most relevant to this thread - we now have a spoiler tag!

Awesome!

Wait, what? A minute ago we could build "ANYTHING you want!!", now we are restricted to "Houses.". What gives?

What I said was that houses are the only *functional* thing you can build as they protect you from creepers and other baddies, but I just realised that's not even true :o You can build stairs, tunnels, portals and other stuff to reach other places for instance, and of course you can make these things look like whatever you want. Before you reply, yes I'm aware you are restricted to cubes though.

Properly speaking, that Enterprise is nothing but an extremely fancy house :p

Andddd now CoD is turning into Left 4 Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_Z-gu880I

This new zombie map looks friggin' sweet though, even if it is does look like there is too much going on.

And I caved in. same. I am now a resident of a mountaintop treehouse with the most amazing view ever.

Thanks Sony. Not only did you allow hackers to gain access to all our account information, but you neglected to tell us about it for seven whole days. For shame. :-/

Edit: Also on that topic.. when you say that our password data may have been accessed, I hope you mean that our hashed, non-reversible password data may have been accessed.. right? You didn’t have our passwords in plaintext on your servers, did you? Cause if you did Sony that is not cool. That is not cool at all.

same. I am now a resident of a mountaintop treehouse with the most amazing view ever.

I am currently connecting a chain of islands with raised bridges and decking.

Undeground I found a dungeon and a single diamond in a cave system that I think might go on for ever.

Also my glass bedroom is the envy of the hordes of skeletons that inexplicably spawn in my house every time try to use my bed.:p

Also: Hooray for PC gaming, where the demo works perfectly, but the actual game requires that I update my drivers!

Edit:
Andddd now CoD is turning into Left 4 Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_Z-gu880I

This new zombie map looks friggin' sweet though, even if it is does look like there is too much going on.

holy ****.

This is offically the first call of duty game that literally lets you play as Buffy the vampire slayer. That is actually what this is.

treehouse
Watch out when playing around with fire!
You could start a never ending forest fire. Literally.

Oh, the recently added thunderstorms with lightning can also ignite wood.
There seems to be a bug that lightning can even strike inside houses. Not sure if this is on purpose.
Also my glass bedroom is the envy of the hordes of skeletons that inexplicably spawn in my house every time try to use my bed.:p
If mobs can reach a 2-block radius around your bed, e.g. if it's placed along a 1-brick wall, they can spawn next to you and wake you up.
That means, place it in the middle of the room, not touching walls, or secure the outside with torches or a build a double wall.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed#Behavior

Of course you could make the enteeprise fly, you just need to build new blocks in front of every old block and then remove the old one :p

Edit: Also on that topic.. when you say that our password data may have been accessed, I hope you mean that our hashed, non-reversible password data may have been accessed.. right? You didn’t have our passwords in plaintext on your servers, did you? Cause if you did Sony that is not cool. That is not cool at all.

Rather what I was thinking. I thought that was standard practise to protect passwords even in the worst case scenario.

Watch out when playing around with fire!
You could start a never ending forest fire. Literally.

Oh, the recently added thunderstorms with lightning can also ignite wood.
There seems to be a bug that lightning can even strike inside houses. Not sure if this is on purpose.lightning may be an issue, but I've made an underground tunnel beneath it for my firey requirements.

I've also started a floating castle above a nearby lake!

So Jeb stopped working on Minecraft.

So now the Minecraft staff list consists of:
Notch (1/3 of attention - other parts focused on making Scrolls and running the company.)


Yeah. I wasn't kidding about that "don't expect anything of a future Minecraft anytime soon".

http://torrentfreak.com/playstation-network-shut-down-to-end-piracy-free-for-all-110426/

So, PS3 users using certain custom firmware gained access to developer networks and were able to play games even though they were banned from the game. Then the firmware later gained an even more annoying feature Sony didn't like, the ability to buy stuff at no cost as credit card information isn't verified on the developers network.

Makes me wonder how insecure the developers network is as hackers could have used that to steal information or Sony is just using hackers as an excuse to shut down the free loaders.

http://torrentfreak.com/playstation-network-shut-down-to-end-piracy-free-for-all-110426/

So, PS3 users using certain custom firmware gained access to developer networks and were able to play games even though they were banned from the game. Then the firmware later gained an even more annoying feature Sony didn't like, the ability to buy stuff at no cost as credit card information isn't verified on the developers network.

Makes me wonder how insecure the developers network is as hackers could have used that to steal information or Sony is just using hackers as an excuse to shut down the free loaders.

Out of date, that whole article is based on speculation from before Sony came clean. That speculation turned out to be barking up the wrong tree, and Sony explained what actually happened yesterday (or the day before, whatever). It was also a bit more serious than 'free games!' and 'playing online while banned' as everyone's personal data was viewable by whoever was doing the hacking.

Also I don't remember where I saw it but I did the see the post by that 'Chesh' guy mentioned and even he didn't claim to be as certain as that article is.

And I caved in.


Watching the Yogscast minecraft series is what prompted me to play the demo in the first place.:o



Once again it's a lego building game based on a fixed gid. Building something out of blocks and making it move is just not within the bounds of the game.

If you want to make amazing flying contraptions go and play a building game with a physics engine.To be fair, there is a planes mod.

But yeah, essentially Minecraft is Lego to GMod's Meccano. On the downside, it doesn't have as much potential for clever physics stuff. On the upside, it's much, much easier to use.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/30/press-release-some-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services-to-be-available-this-week/

Finally ¬¬

The new Black Ops map pack is actually pretty good. The new zombie map is great, and a unique zombie experience, with quite a few new stuff, and easter eggs added.

The new maps are great too. I haven't played a proper game of Convoy and Stockpile yet (apart from combat training, and they seem pretty good) but have played a match on Zoo and Hotel. Hotel is my favourite map so far, and that's not because I got 35- 2 the first bloody match I played online on it.

and that's not because I got 35- 2 the first bloody match I played online on it.

I'd like to nominate this sentence for "Most gratuitous use of the word 'bloody'"

So Sony got hacked again, http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/55698-sony-downs-online-games-division-after-second-attack?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tgdaily_all_sections+%28TG+Da ily+-+All+News%29

So Sony got hacked again, http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/55698-sony-downs-online-games-division-after-second-attack?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tgdaily_all_sections+%28TG+Da ily+-+All+News%29

Old news. Also, it was part of the same attack, not a new one:

SOE has provided us with the following statement, in which it confirms that its user data was stolen as part of the original intrusion -- not a second attack. "While the two systems are distinct and operated separately, given that they are both under the SONY umbrella, there is some degree of architecture that overlaps. The intrusions were similar in nature. This is NOT a second attack; new information has been discovered as part of our ongoing investigation of the external intrusion in April.

I'd like to nominate this sentence for "Most gratuitous use of the word 'bloody'"

Put it there to further highlight how cool I am for getting that score first game :cool:

So a free month of Playstation+ is all we are to be given for our troubles.
It's amazing what the Americans can achieve when the PSN network is down, I guess Osama is a PSN user himself, must've been how they got him. Also I heard he wasn't armed, didn't go out guns blazing and further more didn't use his wife as a human shield. Well I'll be damned

Since he started the company, updates have been so unbelievably slow it's ridiculous, and if I were to guess I'd say Notch is becoming really unmotivated about working on the game too.

look at you. look at how unbelievably stupid you are

So a free month of Playstation+ is all we are to be given for our troubles.

Plus a whole bunch of other free downloads. Couldn't have hoped for anything more than that really?

So a free month of Playstation+ is all we are to be given for our troubles.Stop right there because there's nothing they could've given that would've made you say otherwise.

6 months free sounds better :p
But to be fair free PS+ is all I was really expecting.

Well I for one am tired of having to type in card details when I want to buy stuff from a new site online, so I think it would have been nice of them to just enter my details on every site for me in advance. Oh well, I suppose you can't have everything

6 months free sounds better :p
But to be fair free PS+ is all I was really expecting.
How about PSN+ for free forever?
And a new PS4 for everyone.
And a free helicopter for everyone who had to complain on forums?

I thunk the hacker should be made to buy PS4's for everybody who got hacked.

I'm using a PSP. I don't get anything.

I thunk the hacker should be made to buy PS4's for everybody who got hacked.

Only Sony got hacked and they already have one

I'm using a PSP. I don't get anything.

A PSP without PSN is like a museum without a cheese board.

k, apparently I suck at thinking of witty analogies

A PSP without PSN is like a museum without a cheese board.


So it's like most museums? I personally have never been to a museum with one. Not even the Smithsonian had one on display.(Odds are they have some in storage though...)

So it's like most museums? I personally have never been to a museum with one. Not even the Smithsonian had one on display.(Odds are they have some in storage though...)

That's the point. Not having PSN on your PSP is not quite going to ruin your week. :p

How about PSN+ for free forever?
And a new PS4 for everyone.
And a free helicopter for everyone who had to complain on forums?
Damn straight. :mad:

That's the point. Not having PSN on your PSP is not quite going to ruin your week. :p

Why of course I have PSN on my PSP! It's currently set to the American account so I can't switch to my European one :(

There are a few Terraria LPs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udp5ozoYfxM) on YouTube to forge an opinion from ;)

There are a few Terraria LPs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udp5ozoYfxM) on YouTube to forge an opinion from ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBrOp5XW3I

Well, from what I've seen, I can't wait for June, it looks awesome, plus it'll be great with some buds to play it with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBrOp5XW3I

Diggy diggy hole!

I mean... thanks for the link :p

http://blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/medium_2vaks44.jpg

I really hope this is the actual cover image, I think its fake though...

Not long to wait now, woot!

so. BRINK. anyone else playing it?

My Opinion: it's absolutely awesome. but buggy. as hell. I can't play for more than 30 minutes at a time because of the compatibility issues it seems to have with my graphics card (which is NVidia, oddly, despite everyone else having the same issue having it with ATI). When I CAN play, however, it's quite unique and interesting. I'd like to be able to sink my teeth into the campaign missions, as well as play around with some other game types, but thus far all I've been able to do is play the first two campaign missions and a fair chunk of challenges. that little bit shines like polished gold, however.

Here's the review which is pretty... disappointing.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/objects/143/14349120.html

There is also one for Xbox360 which has a 6.0 rating. PS3 one not up yet, but as if its going to differ much from the Xbox360 review.

Here's the review which is pretty... disappointing.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/objects/143/14349120.html

There is also one for Xbox360 which has a 6.0 rating. PS3 one not up yet, but as if its going to differ much from the Xbox360 review.that's because those idiots are judging a multiplayer game from its solo experience. I don't know about you, but based on all the advertisement, I wasn't expecting this to be a ground-breaking singleplayer.

edit: ok, just read through that review and aside from "the singleplayer sucks" their only complaint was lack of levels. I can't really speak to this yet with my limited experience in the game. Maybe I'll grow bored as well (once I can actually play enough to do so)

edit: ok, just read through that review and aside from "the singleplayer sucks" their only complaint was lack of levels. I can't really speak to this yet with my limited experience in the game. Maybe I'll grow bored as well (once I can actually play enough to do so)

Meh. A limited map pool is fine so long as the maps are actually good.

Meh. A limited map pool is fine so long as the maps are actually good.pretty much my thoughts, to some degree, though extended play on only a couple maps gets old. but from what I've seen there HAVE to be at least 7, so that should be alright even assuming there aren't any others whatsoever.

I WOULD definitely hope that they continue generating more content as time progresses.

pretty much my thoughts, to some degree, though extended play on only a couple maps gets old. but from what I've seen there HAVE to be at least 7, so that should be alright even assuming there aren't any others whatsoever.

I played RTCW multiplayer for years with only 5(?) maps.
It doesn't really concern me at all, so long as the gameplay is engaging and you're not always reduced to constant stalemate slugfests in the middle somewhere.
But since Splash Damage have pretty much been using RTCW's format for all their games, I'm not too concerned. I approve of the apparent lack of vehicles.

Brink looks intereresting. Few maps don't convern me either,besides they will almost have to release more in the future to keep players. TF2 did fine with few maps in the beginning, though they were segmented to make variations.

So... Terraria's actually coming out this Monday.

Yes, really. It's on their site (well, more specifically, on their chatroom label, and the devs are confirming it). Monday 16th, Steam, $9.99

I AM EXCITE!

That, is probably the single best thing I have read on this forum this year. Probably.

Rayman fans, rejoice! Rayman Origins is now a retail release! A FULL SEQUEL AND NOT EPISODIC! ABOUT BLOODY TIME.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/rayman_origins_listed_for_november_15.html

That box art rocks. Oh and its due out near Christmas.

Yes, really. It's on their site (well, more specifically, on their chatroom label, and the devs are confirming it). Monday 16th, Steam, $9.99

Oh. Uh... Guess I'll skip this game then. Not sure if they did any important changes since the alpha, but the hordes of enemies sure are annoying and the building aspect is not all that great either.

The only interesting feature I've seen would be that there can actually be NPCs joining your town.

Rayman fans, rejoice! Rayman Origins is now a retail release! A FULL SEQUEL AND NOT EPISODIC! ABOUT BLOODY TIME.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/rayman_origins_listed_for_november_15.html

First I thought "Wow, that's cool, finally." Then I've seen it's XBox/PS3 only.

Grrr! Why not just develop that thing for PC, as a retail version or through Steam or something?
If it's not at least going to release on Wii as well, I'll have to skip this game, too :(

First I thought "Wow, that's cool, finally." Then I've seen it's XBox/PS3 only.

Grrr! Why not just develop that thing for PC, as a retail version or through Steam or something?
If it's not at least going to release on Wii as well, I'll have to skip this game, too :(

Uhhh... (http://www.amazon.com/Rayman-Origins-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B00503NBL2/)

Why is it that ever since NSMBwii there's been a spate of awesome looking co-op sidescrollers, but all of them have been 2-player?

I want some more 4 player madness gfod damn it.

Edit: duh, me read good. It says '4 player local multiplayer' right there at the end of the article.

If it's not at least going to release on Wii as well, I'll have to skip this game, too :(

Uhm, if youa ctually look at Shadowmoon's link you would see they mention box art for the Xbox360, PS3 and the Wii.

Oh. Uh... Guess I'll skip this game then. Not sure if they did any important changes since the alpha, but the hordes of enemies sure are annoying and the building aspect is not all that great either.
Wait wait, why were you expecting the building aspect to radically change within... one or two months?
Actually, how were you expecting the building aspect to change?

Also, I'm pretty sure they fixed the ridiculous enemy frequency fight after they made their LP.

Uhm, if youa ctually look at Shadowmoon's link you would see they mention box art for the Xbox360, PS3 and the Wii.

Everywhere it says it's unsure whether there'll be a Wii version or not. Cover arts can be faked :-/

Uhhh... (http://www.amazon.com/Rayman-Origins-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B00503NBL2/)

Just wondering, is that completely reliable? :D

Edit: duh, me read good. It says '4 player local multiplayer' right there at the end of the article.

That info might be wrong. With just Globox and Rayman there aren't even enough characters for four players, are there?

Everywhere it says it's unsure whether there'll be a Wii version or not. Cover arts can be faked :-/......they can be, but WHY WOULD THEY? we're not talking about some random guy making a wii box art that shows up in google, we're talking about a professional report about the upcoming release of a game. if it weren't true, why would they even post it?!

Just wondering, is that completely reliable? :D......IT'S AN AMAZON LISTING! ffs, are you just that dumb? what do you think would happen if amazon listed a product that didn't exist and was accepting money for the purchase of that product? honestly.

......they can be, but WHY WOULD THEY? we're not talking about some random guy making a wii box art that shows up in google, we're talking about a professional report about the upcoming release of a game. if it weren't true, why would they even post it?!
To increase view count, just like every other news station.

Also, who's hyped about Rise of Immortals?

......they can be, but WHY WOULD THEY? we're not talking about some random guy making a wii box art that shows up in google, we're talking about a professional report about the upcoming release of a game. if it weren't true, why would they even post it?!

Yes, why? Gaming and reporting sites are that unreliable I hardly even look at them anymore but rather get all the informations from game magazines I trust. Additionally, I've searched the web for more sites with recent news and Shadowmoon's site was pretty much the only one stating Ubisoft announced that game for Wii. I don't know which one to trust.

......IT'S AN AMAZON LISTING! ffs, are you just that dumb? what do you think would happen if amazon listed a product that didn't exist and was accepting money for the purchase of that product? honestly.

I don't know, I'm not used to online stores and actually a bit familiar to ebay. Howsoever, I know that fake offers (http://www.content4reprint.com/culture-and-society/scams/avoiding-fake-products-on-ebay.htm) are a pretty common thing. Not sure about Amazon listings though.

Also, who's hyped about Rise of Immortals?Not exactly hyped over yet another DOTA clone but I do get some fun out of the beta.

Yes, why? Gaming and reporting sites are that unreliable I hardly even look at them anymore but rather get all the informations from game magazines I trust. Additionally, I've searched the web for more sites with recent news and Shadowmoon's site was pretty much the only one stating Ubisoft announced that game for Wii. I don't know which one to trust.



I don't know, I'm not used to online stores and actually a bit familiar to ebay. Howsoever, I know that fake offers (http://www.content4reprint.com/culture-and-society/scams/avoiding-fake-products-on-ebay.htm) are a pretty common thing. Not sure about Amazon listings though.

Ebay is an Auction site where anyone can auction anything. Amazon is a shop/retailer.

Yes, why? Gaming and reporting sites are that unreliable I hardly even look at them anymore but rather get all the informations from game magazines I trust. Additionally, I've searched the web for more sites with recent news and Shadowmoon's site was pretty much the only one stating Ubisoft announced that game for Wii. I don't know which one to trust.I've yet to see a serious blog invent a console announcement...

I don't know, I'm not used to online stores and actually a bit familiar to ebay. Howsoever, I know that fake offers (http://www.content4reprint.com/culture-and-society/scams/avoiding-fake-products-on-ebay.htm) are a pretty common thing. Not sure about Amazon listings though.ebay. is. public. ebay is a website where anyone can post anything. why the HELL would you compare ebay to a retail site?

I've yet to see a serious blog invent a console announcement...

Again, how am I supposed to know it's serious? I haven't seen that site before. Everyone can claim his site to be serious.

ebay. is. public. ebay is a website where anyone can post anything. why the HELL would you compare ebay to a retail site?

Okay, now:

- I'm not used to Amazon nor have I ever taken a closer look at that site.
- Many articles affirm to be second-hand and pre-owned.

I just. didn't. know.

EBGames/Gamestop, Game Traders, Junk shops etc. all sell 2nd hand stuff as well as new.

So??

Amazon puts up pre-emptive listings for games WAY before they're release. Games can then be cancelled/changed significantly before release so it was unreasonable for Thurbo to not know for sure, especially as he doesn't use the site

Modern Warfare 3 was leaked like hell yesterday.

http://kotaku.com/5801353/modern-warfare-3-multiplayer-features-battles-in-brooklyn-clash-in-mogadishu/gallery/1

http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youll-go-how-youll-kill-and-who-will-die-in-modern-warfare-3

HUGE POSSIBLE STORY SPOILERS IN THE ABOVE LINK! I'M ONLY LINKING IT FOR THE VIDEO WHICH CONTAINS AUDIO FROM MW3.

Which caused Activison to react, and release some trailers, which we weren't even meant to see yet.

You can find all 4 that have so far been shown here: http://www.youtube.com/user/CALLOFDUTY?blend=1&ob=5


I love the fact that some of this game will take place in London. I love what I've heard so far, the map list looks like its got some variety too. Hopefully there's a London Underground map, although there already is a map called Underground on the list of maps so that would be it I suppose. "Meteora" also sounds very curious.

So uhm...anyone's going to play some Terraria (http://www.terraria.org/) tomorow?

Nope.



I lied.

That I am.

Which, unfortunately, meant I had to go shopping because I was NINETY CENTS OFF on my top-up credit card.


I got Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings Of Fate on the way, if anyone's interested. Haven't tried it yet.

if anyone's interested.

Ha, too easy

So Terraria is pretty fun.

...I think. See, I got a four-pack for me and my friends, and we all played together. Problem is, we spent so much time messing around that we didn't do all that much exploring.
To the point that we're still on the basic starter gear.

But it's good fun nontheless! The multiplayer is brilliant though, since unlike a certain Minecraft it actually works even when there's lag.


Well, from what I did play:
It's like Minecraft, but a lot less focused on building and a lot more focused on being an action game.

Well, I only got to play about 45 min before work today(afternoon shifts suck) but I had fun, bought a copy for a bud of mine, and can't wait to start playing when I get back. Another 3 hours. The funny thing is, I started underwater, and found a chest one screen over, above ground, got flippers and a stick of dynamite, plus other stuff. And since I put a hole in my roof, a star fell right inside. I would say, an excellent start :)

So Terraria is pretty fun.

...I think. See, I got a four-pack for me and my friends, and we all played together. Problem is, we spent so much time messing around that we didn't do all that much exploring.
To the point that we're still on the basic starter gear.

But it's good fun nontheless! The multiplayer is brilliant though, since unlike a certain Minecraft it actually works even when there's lag.


Well, from what I did play:
It's like Minecraft, but a lot less focused on building and a lot more focused on being an action game.
Does it have less lag then Minecraft? Minecraft has probably worst lag ever experienced.

So PSN is back up and I'm gonna get a bunch of free games. :cool:

Does it have less lag then Minecraft? Minecraft has probably worst lag ever experienced.
Online lag or game lag?

Online there was a good bit of lag, at least for us four on at once. Like I said, certainly not crippling, but it gave the monsters a tendency to jump around everywhere a lot. Still fightable.

Game lag? None. There was the odd time where it'd freeze for half a second, but absolutely no lag.

Haven't tried it online, but finding Terraria extremely enjoyable.
All it lakes is a tutorilal of some kind I guess, as it took me a good 2 hours to understand how everything worked. Other than that, just a couple of forgivable bugs, that should be fixed quickly.

As for the game itself, I've only scratched its surface (around 5h) and I am already deeply hooked.

So. Goddamned. Hooked.
Especially boss fights, those are really really awesome!
It feels a lot like Spelunky, actually. The best moments of Spelunky. (Spelunky itself sorta... sucks, badly).

The one thing that I really don't like, however, is how little there is to build with. The only three non-natural building blocks that aren't really rare (such as metals), are wood, grey bricks, and red bricks. It's really hard to make what you want when that's all you have.

Champipi, I'd ask for your Steam username, but with the three friends I have a nice little set up with, I don't expect there to be a point where none of them want to play whenever I ask. At least, not for a while.

Plasma, my steam name is "mrchampipi" . Add me whenever you feel like it.
I haven't tried online yet, but as I've managed to push quite a couple of friends
into this, that should start soon :)

As for building, I couldn't agree more (even though I don't care about it too much as for now, too busy mining). But I'm sure more and more options will come after the first upcoming main updates (multi via steam, desert and floating islands biomes etc).

Almost full golden set, but still getting my ass kicked in hell or in the corruption area ^_^;
Keeping the boss fights for online with friends, but they do seem epic!

Thought this would be an interesting place to post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUQYrdgIJuI&feature=player_embedded

Controversy about a line over Portal 2, absolutely ridiculous plus they can't get the publisher right either.

Brilliant.

You think that's daft? Read this article: http://christwire.org/2011/04/is-portal-2-safe-for-the-christain-family/
Warning the site may contain images unsuitable for minors, as well as nonsensical christian ramblings.

I'm fairly sure it's a troll however.

microsoft apparently understands college students very well: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/windowsexperience/archive/2011/05/12/students-we-ve-got-you-covered.aspx

Brilliant.

That's not brilliant, that's just terribly, terribly sad

I'm fairly sure it's a troll however.
Author: Ice Van Winkle
No **** :p

Also NAMBLA is form South Park, I think?

Also NAMBLA is form South Park, I think?
Nope, they're a bunch of gay pedophiles, trying to get the laws changed to f*ck underage boys. :eek:
Not funny...

It would appear South Park says otherwise :p

that supposedly christian site is clearly satire... not everything on the internet is either a "troll" or a "seriouspost" regardless of what increased exposure to 4chan and sites influenced by 4chan might make you think

You think that's daft? Read this article: http://christwire.org/2011/04/is-portal-2-safe-for-the-christain-family/
Warning the site may contain images unsuitable for minors, as well as nonsensical christian ramblings.

I'm fairly sure it's a troll however.
I think the best part is that you only added "I think this is fake" after you made the original post.

Nope, they're a bunch of gay pedophiles, trying to get the laws changed to f*ck underage boys. :eek:
Not funny...
Gay AND pedophiles? Oh how un-Christian!

Hey, question. Terraria's Steam page has this as its title image:
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/105600/header_292x136.jpg?t=1305829363


What...

What is that rabbit doing there?

Hey, question. Terraria's Steam page has this as its title image:
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/105600/header_292x136.jpg?t=1305829363


What...

What is that rabbit doing there?

Looks like it's sitting on the grass.
Why?

What is that rabbit doing there?

Many people have been asking they add pets to the game. My first guess, thats what this is.

Second guess, hitting it turns it into a crazy strong monster.

Third, awesome PvP tactic, both of the above.

Or just a random neutral critter.

So hey, some PSP games will now come to the PS3 sporting high definition, slightly improved graphics and the ability to transfer your savefiles from and to a PSP.

First game confirmed for japan is Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. :O

Hopefully the game finally makes it this side of the pond, Monster Hunter on my PS3 would be the greatest thing EVER.

Looks like it's sitting on the grass.
Why?
This game doesn't have rabbits!

This game doesn't have rabbits!what do you mean? there's one right there on the screenshot you linked.

This game doesn't have rabbits!

Right, since there's no way they could add it through a free content update, since they never mentioned those either... Oh wait, they did. On the main features. Probably going to be added in the near future.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7069/rabbit2.jpg

Braid is the only game I've played that had killer rabbits in it.

This game doesn't have rabbits!I think some live down in Hell maybe?

I definitely remember playing multiplayer over skype and while I was busy redecorating the house some of the team were in hell talking about fighting rabbits.

Playing more Terraria with a friend, about to tackle the Dungeon:

A meteor has landed
Mond: Oh sweet
Mond: Right in front of the dungeon
Mond: That's going to be a problem
Mond: And we should've brought materials for building a house
Mond: Apparently you can't place a bed outside
Plasma: Mond
Plasma: Mond
Plasma: I made a house
Mond: Where
Plasma: Think
Mond: I hate everything


I think some live down in Hell maybe?

I definitely remember playing multiplayer over skype and while I was busy redecorating the house some of the team were in hell talking about fighting rabbits.
http://wiki.terrariaonline.com/images/e/e2/Fireimp.png
Cute little bunny rabbits.

Modern Warfare 3 reveal trailer full of explosions and action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mXeW03QvcE

Now hurry up E3. They have moved beyond the MW2 engine, so I'm curious to see what it looks like.

And before you say it: No, it won't suck, and no, its not going to be "demolished" by BF3.

And before you say it: No, it won't suck, and no, its not going to be "demolished" by BF3.not to you, no. you're a rabid fanboy. it doesn't matter WHAT they do, you're going to love it anyway. as noted by their previous mediocre games you've raved about constantly.

come on DICE, don't fail me now! (cause, seriously. it's been a LONG time since BF2....)

A meteor has landed
Mond: Oh sweet
Mond: Right in front of the dungeon
Mond: That's going to be a problem
Mond: And we should've brought materials for building a house
Mond: Apparently you can't place a bed outside
Plasma: Mond
Plasma: Mond
Plasma: I made a house
Mond: Where
Plasma: Think
Mond: I hate everything

Funny stuff, would read again (y)

not to you, no. you're a rabid fanboy. it doesn't matter WHAT they do, you're going to love it anyway. as noted by their previous mediocre games you've raved about constantly.

come on DICE, don't fail me now! (cause, seriously. it's been a LONG time since BF2....)

Errrrr... Black Ops has actually outsold MW2, so I doubt CoD is going down anytime soon :p

I'll be getting Battlefield 3 anyway, but its funny people think it will smash CoD.

Errrrr... Black Ops has actually outsold MW2, so I doubt CoD is going down anytime soon :p

I'll be getting Battlefield 3 anyway, but its funny people think it will smash CoD.

High sales don't indicate a good game... especially in the case of Call of Duty.

Obviously does, it shows it appeals to more people which is what matters.

Obviously does, it shows it appeals to more people which is what matters.

So you think sales for Call of Duty Black Ops being higher than Modern Warfare 2 PROVE it's a better game?

I don't think you quite understand the factors that determine demand.

High sales don't indicate a good game... especially in the case of Call of Duty.
So you think sales for Call of Duty Black Ops being higher than Modern Warfare 2 PROVE it's a better game?

You do know what the word "indicate" means, right?

Anyway how does CoD suck? and don't say campers because they are easy to kill, at least for me.

I would say I'm pretty good at CoD (1.75 K/D on main account, 2.35 on secondary account) so I don't see those problems really.

You do know what the word "indicate" means, right?

No. It was a random word I chose, then put it into the middle of the sentence, just to confuse people like you.

Anyway how does CoD suck? and don't say campers because they are easy to kill, at least for me.

I would say I'm pretty good at CoD (1.75 K/D on main account, 2.35 on secondary account) so I don't see those problems really.

I never said CoD sucked. I don't really like the Black Ops multiplayer compared to Call of Duty 4 or Mw2 which seems to be the general consensus amongst the Call of Duty community.

People might don't know what's good and what isn't. Most EA games are relatively good sellers, no matter whether they are good games or not (Sims Medieval, Spore, all those random, overpriced Sims addons). these guys are obviously advertising too much :p

On a different note, what about bad sequels to brilliant predecessors? You can usually expect people to buy these I guess, such as Monkey Island 4 (that's just an example, personally I don't believe MI4 was too bad :D)

Yeah I prefer MW2 over Black Ops too, but I didn't expect Black Ops to outsell MW2.

Errrrr... Black Ops has actually outsold MW2, so I doubt CoD is going down anytime soon :pwho said CoD was going down? I sure as heck didn't. I just said you'd be happy with CoD no matter WHAT happened with it.

I'll be getting Battlefield 3 anyway, but its funny people think it will smash CoD.anyone who thinks BF3 is going to smash the monster that is CoD is an idiot. Anyone who thinks that CoD will be the better game, however, is equally dense (well. I'm saying this based on BF2 and 2142, as I didn't really play BC2, so perhaps I could be wrong).

I just said you'd be happy with CoD no matter WHAT happened with it.

I've not always been happy with CoD. WaW, for example, I didn't like as much as any of the other CoD's and sold it straight away when I got CoD 4.

I love MW2 and Black Ops, although I prefer MW2 over Black Ops because its got faster paced gameplay and better sniping. They kind of nerfed sniping in Black Ops, but they have fixed it a bit. Still nothing on MW2 or CoD 4 though.

these guys are obviously advertising too much :p

yeah, they even got some youtube stars to advertise sims medieval.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7069/rabbit2.jpg

monty python's holy grail isn't it

Yup, and that rabbit appears to be the first fictional character to be blown up by a Holy Hand Grenade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TodKOOZ7m4&feature=channel_video_title

Owned that guy completely. He starts shooting at me and I just no scope him quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TodKOOZ7m4&feature=channel_video_title

Owned that guy completely. He starts shooting at me and I just no scope him quickly.

I thought you'd have got the message by now. No one cares, that's the message.

I thought you'd have got the message by now. No one cares, that's the message.

That were a pretty sweet shot.

Most people's no scopes they wait for ages and then no scope. In my no scope the guy started shooting at me and I drag no scope him quickly. That is my first no scope across the map on the game, I never usually try for no scopes or snipe, really.

That were a pretty sweet shot.

Most people's no scopes they wait for ages and then no scope. In my no scope the guy started shooting at me and I drag no scope him quickly. That is my first no scope across the map on the game, I never usually try for no scopes or snipe, really.no, no, you seem to have misread his message.

the message really IS: NO ONE CARES.

We found someone thicker then me? At long last I am no longer the thickest fellow here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TodKOOZ7m4&feature=channel_video_title

Owned that guy completely. He starts shooting at me and I just no scope him quickly.
Do you think you performed that shot through:
1: Intense practice, combined with fast reflexes and an incredible response time, while still having such perfect control of the computer mouse to make such a rapid shot.
2: Luck.

If it's the latter, then nobody would ever care except the people who like pretending it was their super-awesome gaming skillz. Which is to say, you. Stop that.


Also, even if it was the former, nobody here would care much anyway. It's like doing an awesome trick on a skateboard, or doing... anything at all with a guitar - the only people who care are the ones who already care about skateboarding/have bad tastes in music.




As opposed to the ham-fisted way I interject my personal opinions. Everyone loves those!

no, no, you seem to have misread his message.

the message really IS: NO ONE CARES.

Obviously if the view count has gone from 10 to 33 since I've posted this.

we found someone thicker then me? At long last I am no longer the thickest fellow here!

So I'm thick because I'm posting this rather nice shot I did? again, the fact that the view count has gone up suggests people have watched it so do me a favour, STFU.

1: Intense practice, combined with fast reflexes and an incredible response time, while still having such perfect control of the controller to make such a rapid shot.

That would be the controller. I think it was a pretty skillful and at the same time, a lucky shot. I have quite some odd and quick twitchy moments on CoD.

Clicking the link and actually caring about how good you are at a game are two completely different things. People are addicted to clicking youtube links, basic human nature by now :p

Yeah I clicked the link and I literally couldn't be less impressed, so knock one off of your view count for me

Oh no he's got us now guys, he's got views, there's nothing we can do but bow down to his incredible internet stardom!!!!

I'd just like to point out that the current version of COD features sniper rifles that are incredibly inacurate when fired from the hip, and feature a severe random sway when you bring up the scope. This was a concious choice on the part of the developers in order to reduce the number of leet NO_SCOPEZ and 360 Quickscopers.

Even though their art has been reduced from an unintended gameplay exploit to literal blind luck they still feel the need to post youtube videos of their SIIK SKILLZ.

Treyarch kind of failed to completely stop quick scoping. Its still easy to do even at medium range. Long range you have to hold your breath a bit more. The annoying thing about the snipers though is you get more hitmarkers, and I never really see people snipe for that reason on core modes

MW3 will bring back quick scoping I'm sure, maybe even make the snipers CoD 4 style and then almost everyone will be happy.

Oh, and Modern Warfare 3 features a new co- op mode like Horde from Gears of War with PROGRESSIVE ranking and suicide bomber DOGS. As good as zombies? Maybe.

Oh, and I like to post rape clips from my gameplay. So what?

Oh, and I like to post rape clips from my gameplay. So what?
So go do it in a CoD forum or something where people might actually care.

So go do it in a CoD forum or something where people might actually care.

Yup, I've got it in my black ops file share where a lot of friends have seen it, I just felt like posting it here too.

It was worth posting just to show off my gold L96A1

Are you fo' reelz?

Oh, and I like to post rape clips from my gameplay. So what?
That's not a problem (well, calling them "rape clips" is, but that's not the point). You're still wrong for thinking any of us would care about a lucky/"skillful" shot like that, which at this stage is sorta bad considering how many times we've made it clear you love CoD far more than any of us, but it's still forgivable.
The problem is your response. Rather than just dropping it when it was clear nobody was interested, you instead got really defensive about it. Your posts have basically been "you should care about this video", as if everyone else is wrong for not being interested in it. That, combined with how you're trying to boast about it, is really not-really-a-swear-word-ing everyone off.

Look at what you've done Shadowmoon, you're making us actually agree with Plasma, have you no shame?!?

Treyarch kind of failed to completely stop quick scoping. Its still easy to do even at medium range. Long range you have to hold your breath a bit more. The annoying thing about the snipers though is you get more hitmarkers, and I never really see people snipe for that reason on core modes

MW3 will bring back quick scoping I'm sure, maybe even make the snipers CoD 4 style and then almost everyone will be happy.

Oh, and Modern Warfare 3 features a new co- op mode like Horde from Gears of War with PROGRESSIVE ranking and suicide bomber DOGS. As good as zombies? Maybe.

Oh, and I like to post rape clips from my gameplay. So what?

If you have to stop and hold your breath, you are no longer quick scoping.

Also if IW have any sence they'll keep the sway.

If you have to stop and hold your breath, you are no longer quick scoping.

Also if IW have any sence they'll keep the sway.

Hmmm... holding your breath but not actually holding your breath fully seems to result in easier long range quick scopes for me. I mean holding your breath as you go in if you know what I mean. I do it sometimes for long range kills and it comes out as a quickscope.

If IW have any sence they'll realise that CoD 4 had it down when it came to sniping. They'll also realise that all the arguments on quick scoping in MW2 could have mostly been solved by taking SOH pro off sniper rifles.

Plus, does Halo, Battlefield Bad Company 2, and Killzone 3 have sway like that on their snipers? not that I recall.

Hmmm... holding your breath but not actually holding your breath fully seems to result in easier long range quick scopes for me. I mean holding your breath as you go in if you know what I mean. I do it sometimes for long range kills and it comes out as a quickscope.

You can't hold your breath unless your looking through the scope. If you look through the scope you aren't quick-scoping.

Also, quick-scoping has never caused a problem for Halo and I don't think it has for BC2 either, why you ask? because it is no where near as effective as it is in Call of Duty. They added the sway to Black ops because quick-scoping prior to Black ops did not involve much skill... especially for people that used quick-scope target stickers.

Errrmm... quick scoping is not not looking through the scope at all. You look through your scope a split second when quickscoping. Especially drag scoping which is a form of quickscope

And quickscoping doesn't take much skill, but been good at it does, seriously.

As for stickers, I know what you mean I've heard it in quick scoping tutorials and I can't believe anyone would do that.

If IW have any sence they'll realise that CoD 4 had it down when it came to sniping. They'll also realise that all the arguments on quick scoping in MW2 could have mostly been solved by taking SOH pro off sniper rifles.


A lot of problems in MW2 could have been solved If they did any perk ballancing at all.:p

But you're deluding yourself If you think quickscoping is something any game developer would want to encourage.

I like quick scoping, I find it fun and don't see anything wrong with it really. I don't see why something a lot of people find fun should be removed completely.

God Philby, can't you just stop with this topic of discussion?

I like quick scoping, I find it fun and don't see anything wrong with it really. I don't see why something a lot of people find fun should be removed completely.I see your arguments and I raise you this: N00b Tube.

also?

Diving, Bunny Hopping, wall hacks and any number of other exploits typically found in shooter games without the use of outside mods. lots of people find them fun! why not just leave them as they are?! derp derp herpa derp.

Yeah, but they'll never remove the tube, since it represents an important piece of kit, dating even farther back than ww1, although it was the rifle grenade then, and it is a very effective and well known weapon.

I see your arguments and I raise you this: N00b Tube.

also?

Diving, Bunny Hopping, wall hacks and any number of other exploits typically found in shooter games without the use of outside mods. lots of people find them fun! why not just leave them as they are?! derp derp herpa derp.

Yeah but there's a whole community of quickscopers so removing it would anger a lot of people... especially the really skilled ones. Another thing, why is it so bad?

Quite a few quickscopers are free kills mostly, for the bad kids anyway. No problem with quickscoping whatsoever. IW made it so that snipers could use sleight of hand pro, which is faster aiming in. They obviously wanted it in MW2.

Noob tube is fun to use, TDM especially. If I find one, I'll use one. Its good for clearing out campers.

Oh and again, most people on MW2 aren't that good at quickscoping. I especially know this from the 1 v 1's I've played.

Diving, Bunny Hopping, wall hacks and any number of other exploits typically found in shooter games without the use of outside mods. lots of people find them fun! why not just leave them as they are?! derp derp herpa derp.

Wait... are you saying bunny hopping is bad?
Are you sure you know what that is?

Also people who complain about stuff in MW2 (such as OMA, noob tubers etc.) simply don't know how to play... (same for BO, though thankfully it's died down a bit...)
As far as I'm concerned, the only truely OP things in the COD series are some of the BO killstreak rewards (good luck countering the Blackbird) and the easy quickscoping before BO (seriously that's not a sniper, that's an infinite range shotgun...)

So I were playing CoD 4 today, which I hadn't for a few months... went on Search and Destroy and encountered the following:

- An enemy behind us, straight away, the moment the round starts we basically all just got shot to death by an enemy who were straight behind us within the moment we spawned. Obviously a hack.

- Enemy's glitching underneath/outside the map to shoot us. ALL of them were underneath the map or outside so it was pointless even been in the lobby.

- Goddamn annoying as hell text that covers the screen slightly, but still enough to obscure your view and frustrate you. About mods and hacks etc.


R.I.P CoD 4.

Wait... are you saying bunny hopping is bad?
Are you sure you know what that is?it's broken in several older games. more modern games often have done something about it. and either way around, it's just damned irritating...

Welcome to my ignore list, people who posted on the last two pages of this thread.

/wrists

Really, not being on KRD's ignore list was the only thing that made life worth living...

wait? who's KRD?

And Aku I'm still not sure what kind of bunny hopping you are talking about...

and Aku I'm still not sure what kind of bunny hopping you are talking about...either the physics glitch/speed hack variety or just the irritating "hopping around so it's somewhat harder to hit me" variety. either kind is annoying without being game-breaking.

Welcome to my ignore list, people who posted on the last two pages of this thread.
So you ignored the whole forum? :p

God forbid we talk about video games in this thread.

MGS and Zone of the Enders HD collections announced.

MGS2/3/Peace Walker for the first one, out on November. ZotE 1 and 2 for the second one, out next year. Both will be appearing on PS3 and 360.

:D

OH GAWD YES NEW CARMAGEDDON (http://www.carmageddon.com/)

also ye olde dungeon keeper (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/dungeon_keeper)

Sony hacked again? http://www.techspot.com/news/44077-shocker-sony-hacked-again-over-a-million-accounts-compromised.html

GOG needs the Gold Edition of Dungeon Keeper :/ but I guess the extremely awesome original game is good enough ;)


either the physics glitch/speed hack variety or just the irritating "hopping around so it's somewhat harder to hit me" variety. either kind is annoying without being game-breaking.
I hate it too, especially when lag is involved and it almost always is in a FPS game! Hopping around and teleporting everywhere as the game engine uses fail motion prediction between syncing players movements with the server etc.

Well it seems Peace Walker will be separate from MGS2 and 3. Still awesome tho.

edit: or it's only separate in japan... I'm confused now.

(good luck countering the Blackbird)

Haha, you can. Its that thing called the counter UAV. All killstreaks can be blocked really, except from dogs (but you can get rid of them easily) you can even destroy a helicopter with a well placed tomahawk lololol

Well it seems Peace Walker will be separate from MGS2 and 3. Still awesome tho.

edit: or it's only separate in japan... I'm confused now.

Hasn't it been out for quite a while now?

Hasn't it been out for quite a while now?

On PSP, yes. But it's also coming to the PS3 and 360 via the aforementioned MGS HD collection.

I have it on PSP already, but I haven't played through it yet. Wanted to play the other games in the series first. So this collection is like a dream come true :3. Plus, now with the "transfarring" feature, I can play on my PS3, then when denied access to the tv I can just continue playing on my PSP. Righteous! :cool:

Haha, you can. Its that thing called the counter UAV. All killstreaks can be blocked really, except from dogs (but you can get rid of them easily) you can even destroy a helicopter with a well placed tomahawk lololol

I'm aware.
Pretty much noone uses counter UAV though... I use it, but I don't bother holding onto it until its needed, I just use it as I earn it.

Also the people complaining about jumping have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. However I'm fairly confident it would be pointless to try and argue with them about it so I'm just gonna claim that "You're wrong" and leave it at that.

Also the people complaining about jumping have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. However I'm fairly confident it would be pointless to try and argue with them about it so I'm just gonna claim that "You're wrong" and leave it at that.....after your comment, I actually looked up to confirm I was thinking of the right thing when I said bunny hopping. I was. if you're under the impression bunny hopping is something else, you're entirely wrong. so please do explain yourself.

If I get that right, bunny hopping is simply just jumping around while moving to become a harder target for your foes? And if so, why is it a bad thing? I thought this tactic wasn't only advantaging as aiming will become harder for yourself as well?

....after your comment, I actually looked up to confirm I was thinking of the right thing when I said bunny hopping. I was.

Never said you weren't

If I get that right, bunny hopping is simply just jumping around while moving to become a harder target for your foes? And if so, why is it a bad thing? I thought this tactic wasn't only advantaging as aiming will become harder for yourself as well?

It's not quite that... it's actually about being able to move faster than the normal running speed. It started out as a bug really but it absolutely made Quake 3 (and no doubt others, "Quake 3" is just my personal bias)

If I get that right, bunny hopping is simply just jumping around while moving to become a harder target for your foes? And if so, why is it a bad thing? I thought this tactic wasn't only advantaging as aiming will become harder for yourself as well?

To expand a little on what Splinter said, the Quake engine had a glitch (can't remember if it was in the original Quake or if it was Quake II where it popped up*) that resulted in 'strafejumping' - by strafing with a jump (and ideally turning your aim slightly in the direction of the strafe), it was possible to jump further and move faster.
Since the practice was so ingrained into the community, the bug was never removed and it has become standard practice and it persists to this day in the Doom 3 engine and derivatives.
Other bugs (like the framterate capping providing to provide a jump height boost**) were removed.

*According to the wikipedia it occurs in Half Life 2, which would suggest it originated with the Quake engine and not the Q2 engine.
**Might have been a speed boost, I can't remember (may not be Q3 but it was true in Wolfenstein Enemy Territory at least and that was on the Q3 engine so...).

Bunny hopping doesn't necessarily refer to strafe jumping though, but is much less useful in games that do not have the aforementioned 'feature' and so is less common.

To expand a little on what Splinter said, the Quake engine had a glitch (can't remember if it was in the original Quake or if it was Quake II where it popped up*) that resulted in 'strafejumping' - by strafing with a jump (and ideally turning your aim slightly in the direction of the strafe), it was possible to jump further and move faster.
Since the practice was so ingrained into the community, the bug was never removed and it has become standard practice and it persists to this day in the Doom 3 engine and derivatives.
Other bugs (like the framterate capping providing to provide a jump height boost**) were removed.

*According to the wikipedia it occurs in Half Life 2, which would suggest it originated with the Quake engine and not the Q2 engine.
**Might have been a speed boost, I can't remember (may not be Q3 but it was true in Wolfenstein Enemy Territory at least and was the Q3 engine so...).

Bunny hopping doesn't necessarily refer to strafe jumping though, but is much less useful in games that have the aforementioned 'feature' and so is less common.

Too long; didn't type :p
Thanks for clarifying

Too long; didn't type :p

And now you even lenghtened it by quoting the whole post, well done :V

Thanks anyway :p

Here's some excititing sounding cafe rumors from a semi-credible source aparently. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432525)

A lot of it sounds to good to be true (super mario world 3 is a massive open world platformer!) But I guess we'll find out in a couple of days.

That bit about developers having access to the dev kit for two years now and the bit about a heavy focus on making online awesome are the two standouts. If those are true then it's going to be pretty damn epic.

That bit about developers having access to the dev kit for two years now and the bit about a heavy focus on making online awesome are the two standouts. If those are true then it's going to be pretty damn epic.

What you're not excited about the touchscreen feedback that allow it to emulate textures!?!:p

Cool! That has been the biggest issue for me with touchscreens. I hope it's sensitive enough to let you hold your finger on a button without it being pushed, until you press a bit harder. I make a ton of mistakes when using my phone just because I accidentally swipe my finger across something I didn't want to press.

Cool! That has been the biggest issue for me with touchscreens. I hope it's sensitive enough to let you hold your finger on a button without it being pushed, until you press a bit harder. I make a ton of mistakes when using my phone just because I accidentally swipe my finger across something I didn't want to press.this is actually the precise reason the tech was invented. it was supposed to emulate the sensation of buttons without actually having to HAVE buttons.

Before everyone goes mad it will definitely also have buttons.

Before everyone goes mad it will definitely also have buttons.well if the leaked information is correct, the screen can detach from the part with buttons, so it both will AND wont have buttons.

this is, of course, rumor until tuesday morning some time.

So, I got:

-Infamous (PS3)
-Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest For Booty (PS3)
-Wipeout HD/Fury (PS3)
-Super Stardust HD (PS3)
-Little Big Planet (PS3)
-Dead Nation (PS3)
-Killzone Liberation (PSP)
-Little Big Planet (PSP)
-ModNation Racers (PSP)
-Pursuit Force (PSP)

All of ^^^ for free. :cool::cool::cool:

And I still haven't reclaimed the ones for my Japanese PSN account. :3

Quest For Booty is alright, but it just doesn't feel like the PS2 ones I grew up with. Especially because Clank isn't there and Ratchet does not talk...

LittleBigPlanet, on the other hand... what the heck have I missed out on. Gotta get number 2 soon, definitely...

E3 today. A lot of games I'm looking forward to see. Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, Gears of War 3, Forza 4, Rayman Origins...

And then Nintendo servers got hacked too, by the same guys that hacked Sony.

Apparently nothing was copied except the server configuration file. With the hackers saying "We're not targeting Nintendo. We like the N64 too much - we sincerely hope Nintendo plugs the gap."


New theory: Nintendo are responsible for diabetes.

And then Nintendo servers got hacked too, by the same guys that hacked Sony.

Apparently nothing was copied except the server configuration file. With the hackers saying "We're not targeting Nintendo. We like the N64 too much - we sincerely hope Nintendo plugs the gap."


New theory: Nintendo are responsible for diabetes.

No. Nononono. Those were the guys who hacked Sony BMG and Sony Online or something, stole a bunch of user data and passwords for a bunch of sweepstakes, music codes, etc, using very basic methods. Not the guys that stole user data from PSN.

Modern Warfare 3 footage. Not as good as MW2 footage. about on par with Black Ops footage. I would think they'd have a more interesting gameplay footage to show off :-/

The new Tomb Raider looks amazing. O_o

The new Tomb Raider looks amazing. O_oit kind of does. I'm happily surprised. though I do hope they don't pull that "enemy grabs her ankle" thing any more than that twice. it was already getting old.

I have to say, kinect integrations to ME3 and Ghost Recon: Future Soldier do look kinda cool. Not sure I would buy kinect for that tho, it's still nothing that you can't do with just a controller.

I have to say, kinect integrations to ME3 and Ghost Recon: Future Soldier do look kinda cool. Not sure I would buy kinect for that tho, it's still nothing that you can't do with just a controller.agreed. Future Soldier's integration looked fantastic.

Youtube on Xbox Live! Hopefully it also enables watching videos in >480p resolutions. That would be awesome for watching SC2 casts on my huge HDTV. :cool:

Just saw the Modern Warfare 3 footage, awesome. "Not on par with Black Ops footage or MW2" is also a stupid thing to say since the majority of the thing were driving a boat more than actual gunplay, as opposed to the first Modern Warfare 2 video that showed off a level called Cliffhanger which had plenty gunplay.

Hopefully some multiplayer footage soon...

Gears of War 3 is looking awesome. :cool:

Edit: Alright, if they manage to make the kinect controls not suck(ie. not laggy and unresponsive), then Crytek's Ryse looks Epic.

edit: Woo, Halo CE remastered! :D Looks pretty.

Just saw the Modern Warfare 3 footage, awesome. "Not on par with Black Ops footage or MW2" is also a stupid thing to say since the majority of the thing were driving a boat more than actual gunplay, as opposed to the first Modern Warfare 2 video that showed off a level called Cliffhanger which had plenty gunplay.that was my point. you'd think they'd have shown off something more interesting.

anyway, Halo is getting remade. that was not expected by me!

Well, there is a Modern Warfare 3 conference tomorrow so I guess they are saving the better footage for then.

Yeah, didn't expect the Halo remake at all, but I think most people were expecting Halo 4, I was.

EDIT: Minecraft on consoles, oh I'm so surprised. I've not even tried it yet lol

and as GOOD as future soldier did with kinect, that's how BAD fable is doing with it.....

Lol, Halo's remake has been rumored since like a year ago, and for the past few months it was basically confirmed.

Also, Lol at on-rails Fable game.

AGAGHAGHASDKHADHGKASDJASHGHFADS MINECRAFT?!?!?!?
:eek::eek::eek:

edit: That's that? Just a quick mention? No footage or anything? **** that disney ****, I want to see how Minecraft + kinect works. -_-

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! XD THIS IS SO HORRIBLE!

did they seriously think having a couple kids pretend to enjoy a **** poor game with bad writers trying to make them sound authentic was going to work!? "this. is. so. coooool."

edit: and if the disney kids were bad, this star wars is even worse!

Yes, that was lame. Also lame? Kinect Star Wars. More on-rails stuff, auto targeting the enemies, laaaggggyyy controls... yeah...

Yes, that was lame. Also lame? Kinect Star Wars. More on-rails stuff, auto targeting the enemies, laaaggggyyy controls... yeah...this game represents everything that I feared when I saw the kinect for the first time.

edit: is it just me or are the actors responding to the game in this sesame street thing? the kinect doesn't seem to be registering their motions at all, but rather they're moving to match the game.

My god this monster thing is even worse.

So far, what I've learned is that kinect is good for voice commands and browsing menus, and bad for everything else. -_-

So far, what I've learned is that kinect is good for voice commands and browsing menus, and bad for everything else. -_-it's a GREAT menu tool. freaking GREAT menu tool. but just leave it out of the games. ffs. the only person who's done that well-ish was the future soldier guys, and even that was questionable once in the game.

Object capture. Hmmm... I wonder what people with use that for.

.....they....they keep getting MORE embarassing.....I really didn't think that was possible....

Halo 4. O_O

Just a short trailer, shows MC waking up and everything is exploding. Please, please, please, please, PLEASE, no kinect. Please? ._.

Please, please, please, please, PLEASE, no kinect. Please? ._.yeah. uh huh. good luck with that.

that was quite possibly the most embarrassing keynote I've ever watched.

Rayman Origins looks like great fun. :D


edit: oh, and the skyrim trailer is AMAZING. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-elder-scrolls/714852)

sony stfu goddamn

Sony highlights:

-Started off with apology about the PSN
-Uncharted 3 looks amazing. Some really impressive water effects.
-Resistance 3 also looks amazing.
-PSP GoW games will be remastered for the PS3.
-Ico and Shadow of the Colossus HD out in September. :D
-Playstation branded 24" 3DTV. $499, comes with glasses, 6 foot HDMI cable, and Resistance 3. Nifty new feature to allow offline co-op, each player uses a different pair of glasses, so each player can see their own full screen, in 2d of course.
-Medieval Moves. PSMove game by the guys who made Sports Champion. Weapon you are using depends entirely in your motion, no inventory required to choose weapons. For example, if you reach to your back you'll take out your bow and arrow. Sword motion is a sword, throwing star motion equals throwing star... you get the point. Looks pretty cool. Kinda like Crytek's Ryse, but with cartoony graphics, and better controls. :p
-Sly Cooper Thieves in Time. Out in 2012. Animated trailer, no gameplay footage yet.
-Dust 514, the fps game that ties in with EVE Online, will be a PS3 exclusive. They will also extend the experience to the NGP.

Aaaaand my stream died. Nice. Moving to gametrailers...

-Move support for Bioshock Infinite, but they are still working on it apparently.
-Bioshock game for the NGP. No footage.
-If you buy Bioshock Infinite on PS3, you also get a copy of the first Bioshock on the same disc.
-Battlefield 3 on the PS3 will include Battlefield 1943 in the same disc.
-Playstation Suite, bringing Playstation content to other devices, like android phones and tablets.
-NGP's real name finally revealed: Playstation Vita. Ugh. It's still the same amazing product, tho. Dual sticks, touchscreen and touchpad on the back, front and rear cameras.
-Cross-game voice chat on the Playstation Vita confirmed. Still no cross-game chat for the PS3, lol.
-Uncharted: Golden Abyss footage, for PSVita. Developed by the guys who made the Resistance game on the PSP. It looks so preeeetty. Melee combat uses the touchscreen, actually looks pretty nifty. The mix of buttons + touchscreen controls is pretty cool, and you can always just stick to one or the other if you prefer, same with sections that use the accelerometer. You choose how you want to play.
-Ruin. Social action RPG for the PSVita. Also for PS3 apparently, you can, at any moment stop playing on your Vita, save your game, switch to your PS3 and keep playing from the exact same point you left off. Niiiice.
-Modnation Racer's for PSVita. Not a port they say, completely new build. Touchscreen is very useful for building tracks. Back touchpad hels you create mountains, essentially pushing the terrain up, touchscreen pushes the terrain down. The game looks pretty much as good as the PS3 version. Will have access to the content made for the PSP and PS3 versions from day one.
-WipeOut 2048 will have cross-platform multiplayer, involving both PS3 and Vita.
-Sony will focus heavily on interactivity between the PS3 and Vita.
-Little Big Planet is coming to the Vita as well. Will make full use of the Vita's features to create levels, which means making levels is that much more awesome.
-SF x Tekken coming to PSVita as well. Cole McGrath, from Infamous, will be a playable character. Cole vs Ryu footage. :O
-More than 80 titles currently in development for PSVita, from a wide range of publishers. :3
-PSVita's price will be $249 USD for the wi-fi only version, $299 for the 3G one. **** YEAH. Wonder if Nintendo will drop the 3DS's price. In any case, I'm happy with that price. :3

Aaand, it's over. Sony > MS, hands down.

Sony was terrible, they showed absolutely nothing new, ever. Just more waggle and touch.

Sony was terrible, they showed absolutely nothing new, ever. Just more waggle and touch.

Wha? They showed a ****-ton of games... specially compared to MS's ****-on-rails bonanza... :confused:

Yup, Sony's stuff looks awesome. I am sold on the vita, specially with that price tag. Sounds like there will be plenty of launch titles to select from. And the new ps3 games look quite nice, but I still haven't played any Uncharted or resistance, but I just might have to. In regards to the touch and waggle, sounds like a lot of it is optional.

Wha? They showed a ****-ton of games... specially compared to MS's ****-on-rails bonanza... :confused:
Yeah they highlighted all their exclusive HD/3D/Move/bonus/whatever and are gonna rerelease everything on the Vita (which is just the PSP with more stuff), big woop. The only really new stuff like Sly Cooper, Dust and Bioshock Infinite got the least screen time.

Microsoft wasn't any better but at least you always get a kick out of all the Kinect horrors. Hoping Nintendo showcasing their new console turns out interesting.

Yea, how dare they highlight the products they have heavily invested in, it's not like the whole conference is one giant sales pitch, with each company trying to sell it's big ticket items or anything.

DS is to GBA, as Vita is to PSP.
In otherwords, they are both the same as what they are replacing, just with more stuff.

Yeah they highlighted all their exclusive HD/3D/Move/bonus/whatever ok, and what ELSE are they supposed to highlight? the PS3 is known for HD and 3D, so any big title is going to have that, most titles these days offer a Move option on it, and everything else is going to be small time or remakes. you've quite literally just said you don't find interesting the entire list of games the PS3 COULD offer, much less IS offering.

anyway, for my part I thought the Vita looked absolutely fantastic, and this from someone who has been completely unimpressed by the PSP series of portables thus far. I've found nothing to look at with the previous iterations, but I could honestly see myself enjoying a Vita.

I DO, however, note that once again Last Guardian got NO face time, and this upsets me greatly......

ok, and what ELSE are they supposed to highlight? the PS3 is known for HD and 3D, so any big title is going to have that, most titles these days offer a Move option on it, and everything else is going to be small time or remakes. you've quite literally just said you don't find interesting the entire list of games the PS3 COULD offer, much less IS offering.

anyway, for my part I thought the Vita looked absolutely fantastic, and this from someone who has been completely unimpressed by the PSP series of portables thus far. I've found nothing to look at with the previous iterations, but I could honestly see myself enjoying a Vita.

I DO, however, note that once again Last Guardian got NO face time, and this upsets me greatly......

Well, it was delayed. I'm guessing they're saving it for next year's E3, considering it's most likely not gonna be out before then. :c

Well, it was delayed. I'm guessing they're saving it for next year's E3, considering it's most likely not gonna be out before then. :cwhich is what upsets me greatly! :(

also? I've just watched the BF3 tank video, and HOLY MOTHER OF CHRIST! :eek::eek::eek:

which is what upsets me greatly! :(

also? I've just watched the BF3 tank video, and HOLY MOTHER OF CHRIST! :eek::eek::eek:

*goes watch video*

DAYUM.

Rayman Origins looks awesome! the mosquito shooting section from Rayman 1 is back! and I also spotted that familiar cage smash symbol too, so I presume the electoons are back in this too.

E3 trailer here: http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6317190/

Sony highlights:

-Playstation branded 24" 3DTV. $499, comes with glasses, 6 foot HDMI cable, and Resistance 3. Nifty new feature to allow offline co-op, each player uses a different pair of glasses, so each player can see their own full screen, in 2d of course.

If this works like I think it does, one player wearing polarized glasses and the other player wearing non-polarized glasses then that is just awesome and actually justifies the existence of 3D TV's!

Not only can 2 players see the whole TV from there players perspective but if you divide each screen (3D TV uses polarized and non-polarized screens) up into 2 then 4 players can play each viewing half the screen! Much better then the 4 quarters required these days! And if you do split the pictures into quarters then you can have up to 8 players playing at once!

Also it can be used to greatly diminish screen cheating since either the other players screen won't be visible with the glasses or it will be blurry.

-PSVita's price will be $249 USD for the wi-fi only version, $299 for the 3G one. **** YEAH. Wonder if Nintendo will drop the 3DS's price. In any case, I'm happy with that price. :3

Wow, I really didn't expect them to actually give it such a competitive price.
Gotta say.. that's gonna be killer.

-PSVita's price will be $249 USD for the wi-fi only version, $299 for the 3G one. **** YEAH. Wonder if Nintendo will drop the 3DS's price. In any case, I'm happy with that price. :3
Okay wow. I was not expecting that. I wasn't expecting that all!

ok, and what ELSE are they supposed to highlight?The games? Crazy I know, but if you're gonna rag on Microsoft for just highlighting the Kinect I don't see how Sony didn't do the exact same thing.

But who cares, I got PC games to look forward to at least. Battlefield 3 yessssssssssssssssssssss.

The games? Crazy I know, but if you're gonna rag on Microsoft for just highlighting the Kinect I don't see how Sony didn't do the exact same thing.well sure, but for one, the move games actually look playable. mostly, though, the move games weren't highlighted NEARLY as exclusively as the kinect games were. Sony at least showed plenty of other stuff, where MS even showed just the kinect versions of AAA titles.

But who cares, I got PC games to look forward to at least. Battlefield 3 yessssssssssssssssssssss.now THIS we can agree on! BF3 and Skyrim both look freaking FANTASTIC!

which is what upsets me greatly! :(

also? I've just watched the BF3 tank video, and HOLY MOTHER OF CHRIST! :eek::eek::eek:

What, the tank was lame compared to what they could have shown.

Thank god they showed a short clip of one of the maps.

what's this?! nintendo isn't filtering video content over online gameplay?!

edit: TANOOKI SUUUUUUUUUUUUIT!!!!!

Kid Icarus multiplayer looks pretty darn interesting!

So. WiiU.

Yeah, pretty much as expected. A large handheld controller.
...they really make it look like it has a lot of potential, and I'd say it is going to be the most fun console so far, buuut there's no way this is going to come cheap. When they're actually saying "this is expensive y'know", well...


But woo, Brawl!


Edit: Wow Darksiders 2 looks amazing! Now THAT is how you do stylefilters!

WiiU will be the name of the new console. ._.

Darksiders 2 at launch. Arkham City will be showing up, as is Assasin's Creed.

The new controller is... ok, I guess, but a lot of the stuff they showed seems extremely gimmicky. O.o

They also showed a very impressive tech demo for the console's graphics, definitely out-does the 360/PS3.

Currently showing a montage of hardcore games for the new console, it's all looking great.

Ok, customization could be AWESOME on this console. One example that showed briefly had the player humorously hand-painting a Tekken's(?) character face using the touchscreen. I can see this being awesome for basically any game with character/vehicle customization, or for any game that lets you create your own levels.

edit: but seriously, that controller looks HUUUUUGE. It's like i-pad sized, but way, way fatter. :p

Hardcore games on a Nintendo console? No wonder the world's gonna end. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Not crazy about the WiiU name. New controller looks cool but of course they're just gonna highlight gimmicks at this point.

Also Lego GTA WTF?

I'm intrigued. if you watched at e3.nintendo.com they showed an in-depth demo of the chase game, the mii battle game, and the shield game. all 3 looked pretty interesting as concept demos.

The controller definitely has a lot of versatility packed into it. I'm looking forward to seeing what hardcore developers have to offer with its tech. I think the use of an iPad-esque screen with the buttons on the side to emulate a standard controller as well as the wiimote compatibility really mesh well. The Wii U could very well be a console that offers the best of all worlds, being able to play hardcore console titles as well as iphone titles and the like.

I can't say "oh god that looks amazing!" just yet, but they've definitely piqued my interests.

Yeah, there's a ton of potential. I was impressed yesterday by how the Vita working together with the PS3 can really enhance gameplay, and this is basically the same thing, except it's actually a part of the console so it's bound to get used a lot more.

Another cool thing is that you can bet someone is going to make custom drivers to get this thing working on PC. So you get a fairly decent drawing tablet, and hopefully indie games making great use of it's features. :cool:

Yeah, there's a ton of potential. I was impressed yesterday by how the Vita working together with the PS3 can really enhance gameplay, and this is basically the same thing, except it's actually a part of the console so it's bound to get used a lot more.

Another cool thing is that you can bet someone is going to make custom drivers to get this thing working on PC. So you get a fairly decent drawing tablet, and hopefully indie games making great use of it's features. :cool:I'm looking forward to Sony and MS copying it for their next console generations! :rolleyes:

If this works like I think it does, one player wearing polarized glasses and the other player wearing non-polarized glasses then that is just awesome and actually justifies the existence of 3D TV's!

Not only can 2 players see the whole TV from there players perspective but if you divide each screen (3D TV uses polarized and non-polarized screens) up into 2 then 4 players can play each viewing half the screen! Much better then the 4 quarters required these days! And if you do split the pictures into quarters then you can have up to 8 players playing at once!

Also it can be used to greatly diminish screen cheating since either the other players screen won't be visible with the glasses or it will be blurry.
Both will have to use polarized glasses.
For the 3D effect, the two images are sent out polarized, with a 90° angle between the waves and the two glasses are arranged at the same 90° angle. (You can check that by putting two polarization filters over each other, then turn them 90°. You'll completely block both planes and no light can pass through, i.e. it's black.)

Now I think that there are two extra pairs of glasses that have both polarization filters in one pair of glasses alligned parallel with the respective half-image, so each player sees one half-image with both eyes.
With your suggestion, only the one with the polarized glasses would be able to see his half-image, but the one without glasses would always see both superimposed.

Lego GTA:
After a massive crime spree, citizens are left picking up the pieces.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-call-of/714784

More MW3 E3 footage.

God knows why they didn't show this at the E3 show...

As expected the new nintendo is bascally a non-portable DS with slightly better than 360/ps3 graphics.

I am fine with this.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-call-of/714784

More MW3 E3 footage.

God knows why they didn't show this at the E3 show...well it's only showing more of the same old MW that we've seen already, so I can understand why they didn't want to show it, but it's definitely more interesting in terms of the action involved.

As expected the new nintendo is bascally a non-portable DS with slightly better than 360/ps3 graphics.

I am fine with this.exactly my thoughts. The Wii was questionable, the U seems like a pretty solid concept I can't really see going wrong and fading into the "gimmicky" background noise of motion control. I eagerly await seeing some ACTUAL games being played with it.