Well it doesn't look too bad. I mean, the animations are still off-putting (especially the really slow spin Sonic does), and the whole thing of trying to ride on the success of its predecessors has reached maximum level now, but it does have multiple paths alright (which is the thing I was worried most about).


...at least, that's what I was thinking, up until the point where the player had difficulty going up a loop after hitting the spring, and where Sonic started standing near-horizontally and walking in place (and exactly horizontally), at which point I immediately thought "Sonic 2006"!It's pretty obvious the level isn't even complete, much less the mechanics. There's a reason it's not official footage.

It's pretty obvious the level isn't even complete, much less the mechanics. There's a reason it's not official footage.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. The problem with getting up the loop, yes, but standing horizontally doesn't exactly strike me as something that they just so happened to completely miss in the early stages.

How's about we stop *****ing about issues with an incomplete game?

Instead I'd like to point out that Cavestory Wii is out in america land. It's got upgraded graphics (whitch look ace) and a bunch of new modes and difficulty settings. Sounds good!

Not so good is the new translation, whitch is considerably worse than the old fan translation. Also good job cutting out balrog's fan-favorite catchphrase and replacing it with a dumb pop culture reference! That's bound to go down well.

They aparently also decided to take a great big steaming **** all over the music. compare the original version of the boss theme Gravity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBxHFoaxKEs) with the new version (http://tindeck.com/listen/vecy).

Thankfully you can choose to use the original music with the new graphics.

Hopefuly they'll give it a little bit of spit and polish before they send it europe-wards (why does a dowloadable game not have simultaneous european release date anyhow? what is this 1997? gosh.).

They aparently also decided to take a great big steaming **** all over the music. compare the original version of the boss theme Gravity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBxHFoaxKEs) with the new version (http://tindeck.com/listen/vecy).
Wait.


Seriously? THAT'S the boss tune?


Okay, so what IS new in the WiiWare version anyway?

Wait.


Seriously? THAT'S the boss tune?


Okay, so what IS new in the WiiWare version anyway?
The biggest selling point is the new graphics, redrawn by Pixel at twice the resoloution.

You get three save slots.

There's now three difficulty modes, Easy, Normal (identical to the PC version) and Hard (3hp no missiles). Easy and hard feature a slightly modified quote sprite (yellow clothes for Easy, blond hair and fleshtone for Hard).

There's a 'Sanctuary time trial' but that's just the option to play hell from the main menu. No idea how that decides what weapons/health you get. It's availiable from the very start.

There's a boss rush mode too.

and there's something Called 'Curly Story' where you play as Curly Brace. from what I've seen it's just the main game with a different sprite and dialogue, at least up to the egg corridor. I don't know if it's a prequel and you end up in the sandzone or if you end up rescuing Quote and beating the doctor or what. Looks pretty neat though.

I should stress that I don't own the game, I'm just following it obsesively because I assumed it was being released everywhere today.

GAAAAAH! that new boss theme is trying to shatter my windows!

also? it sounds like normal level music once that terrible screeching stops. and at no point does it sound like a boss fight.

I was made very un-calm by the revelation that "HUZZAH!!!" is no longer Balrog's catch phrase. But I'm not going to get angry, nuh-uh.

nope.

I suppose there is still a chance they'll change it back for Europe, but I don't know... Was it too hard to get the fan translation's permission?

It seems insulting that they thought the music needed changing, Pixel's no proffessional, but we could all tell his music-ing skills were top notch.

R.I.P "Huzzah!"

;_;

They aparently also decided to take a great big steaming **** all over the music. compare the original version of the boss theme Gravity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBxHFoaxKEs) with the new version (http://tindeck.com/listen/vecy).Ugh that screech pretty much drowns out the whole music. :mad:

From the Wii music that I could find (everyone pretty much selects the original), it seems the problem is it's become a lot more bland and samey. They use the same notes as the original, but the changes and instruments are a lot less distinct and unique, so it all kinda blends in. Plus horrible clashy additions like that screech.

Everything else seems ok though. It's by no means a major improvement over the original, but a nice "special edition".

So I talked to a friend who does own it.

From what he told me, Philby's pretty much got everything, except that:
1: Curly's Story really is just the same game but with changed dialogue. At least, as far as he's gotten anyway.
2: The music cuts between rooms, and is extremely annoying.
3: The Sanctuary Time Attack is rubbish, because you have to get all your power-ups from chests. Accompanied by the five-second Got Upgrade melody. Which you have to go through EVERY TIME YOU DIE! And this is all IN THE SANCTUARY!
4: ...except, oddly enough, the Boss Rush mode doesn't have the pause-for-five-seconds-on-upgrade-acquisition thing. And is apparently rather well done.
5: It's a little bit buggy.

Oh **** Nintendo 3DS. (http://kotaku.com/5499697/nintendo-announces-new-hardware-the-nintendo-3ds)

guess I'm never going to get a DSi now.

About Sonic 4.... it looks decent, will most likely be good, but will not be amazing.

Oh **** Nintendo 3DS. (http://kotaku.com/5499697/nintendo-announces-new-hardware-the-nintendo-3ds)

guess I'm never going to get a DSi now.I'm still curious: any of you science guys know how the 3D without glasses is going to work? are we looking at our first Hologram-projected gaming system here or is there a simple method for applying 3D graphics without the use of outside aid?

About Cavestory Wii:

Yeah, the new music is pretty lame. It irks me that they went with trying to make it sound like chiptunes, because the original music already did that and did it much better. I would have expected them to change the music to something more instrumental, kind of like going from NES to SNES quality. The new graphics are nice, the gameplay seems pretty much the same.

Haven't tried Boss rush, Sanctuary or Curly Story yet.

I'm still curious: any of you science guys know how the 3D without glasses is going to work? are we looking at our first Hologram-projected gaming system here or is there a simple method for applying 3D graphics without the use of outside aid?
If I understand correctly it works on exactly the same principal as 3d glasses, except the image splitting lenses are part of the screen.

It only really works if you're looking directly at it, so while it's great for hanhelds and laptops you won't see any 3D tvs using the technology. That's probably the reason that nobodies even heard of this type of 3D screen before, dispite it being old news.

Combining the 3D display with Headtracking (check out this DSiware game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QSclrIdlE&feature=player_embedded)) could lead to some very awesome results.

Of course, while the 3D sounds neat, I'm much more interested in the actual specs of the thing, unlike the DSi It's suposed to be a full on sucsessor with a significant increase in power. All we really know is that it's going to have two screens (at least one of them a touch screen) and two cameras so it can be properly bacwards compatable. There were a bunch of rumours after GDC about a DS2 with gamecube level graphics and flush screens. There's also been recent rumors about it having an analogue stick and rumble built in.

There's also some crazy rumours about force-feedback styluses and accelerometers. Rumors are all we've got to go on until E3 in june.

*doesn't read philby's post yet*

here's how it'll most likely work apparently. http://kotaku.com/5499823/nintendo-3ds-could-borrow-3d-trick-from-iphone

edit: ah yes. basically the same as your link there for that DSiWare game.

this could be an interesting console indeed.

Hmmm. Maybe I should sell my DSi now before word of the new ds spreads. :P

*doesn't read philby's post yet*

here's how it'll most likely work apparently. http://kotaku.com/5499823/nintendo-3ds-could-borrow-3d-trick-from-iphone

edit: ah yes. basically the same as your link there for that DSiWare game.

this could be an interesting console indeed.
Some apparently reliable sources have been throwing the term Parralax barier LCD (http://www.develop-online.net/news/34273/Rumour-Nintendo-3DS-uses-parallax-barrier-tech) around.

Parralax Barrier Screens have been around for years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVhlEkakxY) and provide 3D without the need for special glasses or motion sensing trickery.

I'm not saying that the 3Ds won't do head tracking (the DSi can already do that, so of course it will) but if that's all it does then that's not even real 3D. Headtracking only gives the illusion of 3D when it's moving. When you're not moving it's still just a single flat image. Real 3d feeds two slightly different images into each eye and your brain combines them into a 3D image. This is seeing in sterio.

Edit: and if you still think the idea of no-glassses sterioscopic 3D screens on mobile devices is an impossible dream, check this out: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1597252/hitachi-3d-mobile-tips

Maybe LED screens with a borderless edge for minimal distance between the screens.

Maybe LED screens with a borderless edge for minimal distance between the screens. The screens would have a higher height and have black bars at the bottom of the top and top of the bottom screens to make up the difference in distance DS/DSi games have? (like shift the display up or down on the respective display when running a legacy game.)what? :confused:

I mean like this http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/franpa/Untitled-54.png it's possible with LED, not sure if they could do it without LED.

I mean like this http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/franpa/Untitled-54.png it's possible with LED, not sure if they could do it without LED.yeah. I don't even know what you're talking about to begin with much less to try to understand the description or that image.

I get what he means - that the two screens are as close as possible to each other, and that when playing a DS game on it it shouldn't use up the whole screen to provide that little bit of a gap that DS games usually need...
but I have no idea how it's relevant to anything at all!

yeah ^, you maintain the correct distance visually for DS games as that's what there designed for, otherwise it would be annoying judging the timing of things passing between screens etc. If they did go for a borderless approach with the screens, then it would make for a vastly improved experience imho.

yeah ^, you maintain the correct distance visually for DS games as that's what there designed for, otherwise it would be annoying judging the timing of things passing between screens etc. If they did go for a borderless approach with the screens, then it would make for a vastly improved experience imho.ok, plasma's description made it make a bit more sense, but what the heck does any of this have to do with anything at all?!

It will make it more worthy of an actual purchase? I loath the massive gap you have to compensate for on the DS/i

ok, plasma's description made it make a bit more sense, but what the heck does any of this have to do with anything at all?!

You were talking about a new DS. He wants to see a new DS without screen gap (with older games simulating the gap so they still make sense). It's not related to the 3D stuff.

I question the value of gapless screens though. If they have different capabilities like now, it would just make it more confusing. Otherwise just merge them into one.

I am happy today. Why?

New computer. Not a great one, but it has some good/adequate hardware pieces. Why? Because I only have a 3-year old and crumbly laptop to play games, and many of my games on Steam have a huge problem running on it.

So here I am, installing large loads of games. Feels good man.

It's not related to the 3D stuff.which is where I was thrown off. I was trying to relate to the discussion at hand.

Victory for people like me who stayed with the original DS! Or something.

Saying that, I'm not entirely convinced by the concept of the 3DS: I'd probably have to see it in action.

I am happy today. Why?

New computer. Not a great one, but it has some good/adequate hardware pieces. Why? Because I only have a 3-year old and crumbly laptop to play games, and many of my games on Steam have a huge problem running on it.

So here I am, installing large loads of games. Feels good man.

Apparently, I was wrong about the part on "adequate". It runs Modern Warfare 2 on highest settings and resolution COMPLETELY fine.

If anyone is interested, Specs are:
Intel Core i5 430M 2.26 GHz (With turbo boost technology, that boosts the power to 2.52-53 GHz when doing demanding tasks like playing games.)
4 Gigabyte DDR3 RAM
ATI Moblity Radeon HD 5650 1 Gigabyte GRAM.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
640 Gigabyte HDD space
15.6" 16:9 HD LED LCD.. Uhh durr (It has a very weird resolution. 1366 x 768)

So I think it's pretty good.
And I am ze ownar of page 127!

That IS a pretty decent laptop, Would cost around 1,000$ AUD new.

I am happy today. Why?
New computer.

I also just got a new computer, to replace this dieing hulk of a laptop I'm stuck with. My current junker has a pathetic 2.4GHz AMD chip(single core), 1 Gig of ram and a crappy video card. And a variety of issues, including a dead cd drive, no working USB ports, as well as some integrated things not working, like my webcam, all thanks to a faulty motherboard.

My new computer has 2.5GHz quad, 4 gigs of ram, but needs a new video card, currently its loaded with an integrated GMA card, so shared memory, ew.

The hilarious thing about all this? No monitor. So I've got a far superior computer, that is completely useless, and a junker, that could suddenly become useless.

You were talking about a new DS. He wants to see a new DS without screen gap (with older games simulating the gap so they still make sense). It's not related to the 3D stuff.

I question the value of gapless screens though. If they have different capabilities like now, it would just make it more confusing. Otherwise just merge them into one.
The nearly gapless screens are a heavily rumoured feature of the 3DS. The idea is that in some games they will function as a single screen and in others they won't. Presumably this means that both screens will have identical capabilities at least in terms of graphics.

Victory for people like me who stayed with the original DS! Or something.

Saying that, I'm not entirely convinced by the concept of the 3DS: I'd probably have to see it in action.
The 3d screens is going to result in some HDtv-advert level nonsense when it comes to representing something a standard tv screen cannot possibly display. I can see it now, pokemon literally popping out of the device, mario kicking a koopa shell into young childrens faces.

Also, back to Cave story Wii, apparently the new music is so terrible because it's bugged. Thats right, the music issue that plagued the IGN videos from last year is still in the game. :p

They're planning on fixing it for the EU release, along with changing Balrog's catchphrase back to Huzzah (or at the very least something that isn't a reference to a sft drink that isn't even sold over here.

Given Nicalis' current track record I can't wait to download the exact same game as the american release sometime in 2012.

The 3d screens is going to result in some HDtv-advert level nonsense when it comes to representing something a standard tv screen cannot possibly display. I can see it now, pokemon literally popping out of the device, mario kicking a koopa shell into young childrens faces.
...except it's a Nintendo device. Nintendo generally prefer just showing people having fun playing the console as opposed to showing the console/game itself.


Although they're still better than the competition. Sony and Microsoft both love not actually showing the game or console at all, and instead prefer showing some big metaphor for the whole thing.

"It's like a nut you can play with outside."

...except it's a Nintendo device. Nintendo generally prefer just showing people having fun playing the console as opposed to showing the console/game itself.
Although they're still better than the competition.

No, nothing is worse than a Nintendo advert. Nothing in the universe.

Edit: I realise this looks like I'm just being a fanboy of some kind, but seriously.

No, nothing is worse than a Nintendo advert. Nothing in the universe.

Edit: I realise this looks like I'm just being a fanboy of some kind, but seriously.
Yeah at least the PSP adverts were bizare enough to be interesting.

Ant and Dec challenging dull people at brain training certainly isn't.

Also plasma if you think they won't make a big thing about the 3D screens you are a moron.

Talking of new computers, I just fully rebuilt mine.

WE'RE ALL UPGRADING AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS STRANGE

Talking of new computers, I just fully rebuilt mine.

WE'RE ALL UPGRADING AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS STRANGE

Well it certainly may be. :3

But at least no one is left behind, all jealous of our computers that run fine and swell? Right?

No, nothing is worse than a Nintendo advert. Nothing in the universe.

Edit: I realise this looks like I'm just being a fanboy of some kind, but seriously.eh. Sony's old commercials were worse. their new ones, however, make up for those by being so ridiculously awesome.

Well it certainly may be. :3

But at least no one is left behind, all jealous of our computers that run fine and swell? Right?meh? mine's been fine for a while. I can still play games happily on high settings, so no need for an upgrade.

To break the trend I fixed my old computer yesterday. Athlon 3000, 2 gigs of ram, Geforce 7600GS. Pride and joy of 2005.

It can cope with L4D :P

Ok, so according to a number of google search results, Call of Duty 7, releasing later this year, is called Call of Duty: Black Op's, its a rumour at the moment, just thought i'd say anyway. Setting is Vietnam and PC users can rejoice, because its rumoured to have dedicated servers.

So if these rumours are all true this is certainly going to be a very interesting addition to the CoD series, maybe this will be the new Modern Warfare.

Ok, so according to a number of google search results, Call of Duty 7, releasing later this year, is called Call of Duty: Black Op's, its a rumour at the moment, just thought i'd say anyway. Setting is Vietnam and PC users can rejoice, because its rumoured to have dedicated servers.

So if these rumours are all true this is certainly going to be a very interesting addition to the CoD series, maybe this will be the new Modern Warfare.hahahahahahahahahahaha!

look everyone! he still thinks Activision is going to be releasing decent games!

So, the soundtrack for Sonic4 Episode1 was leaked.
http://soundcloud.com/bigthecat


If you have to listen to one tune, listen to Boss Music 1!

hahahahahahahahahahaha!

look everyone! he still thinks Activision is going to be releasing decent games!

Okay, all CoD games have been more than decent, and all have been published by Activision. Heck, Modern Warfare 2 and CoD 4 were a lot more than decent. I can't really say it'll be great considering that there are no screenshots and no official confirmation, but I'm going to stand by what I said for Modern Warfare 2, which is, that it will be great.

If you have to listen to one tune, listen to Boss Music 1!

I hope you aren't serious, because that is the worst boss music EVER

hahahahahahahahahahaha!

look everyone! he still thinks Activision is going to be releasing decent games!

Hahah, man, I'm going to record this and upload it to youtube - "Guy thinks Activision will make a Good Game"!

Err... what is wrong with Activision? I mean, they publish some sucky games, but they do publish good ones too. The only think I know they're bad for is that they love trying to milk a series as much as possible (fun fact: they're actually making a DJhero 2!)

I hope you aren't serious, because that is the worst boss music EVER
I didn't say it was good, I just said you have to listen to it!



From how ungodly horrible it is! I mean, against anything that isn't an evil clown boss!

Err... what is wrong with Activision? I mean, they publish some sucky games, but they do publish good ones too. The only think I know they're bad for is that they love trying to milk a series as much as possible (fun fact: they're actually making a DJhero 2!)
From actively trying to stop other publishers from releasing games they dropped to firing the founders of infinity ward for'insubordination' and witholding royalties from the people who made the best selling game ever, Activision are basically bad-old-days-EA crossed with the evil empire at this point.

That isn't going to hamper the sales of Call of Duty that much anyway.

That isn't going to hamper the sales of Call of Duty that much anyway.
And that's not a good thing.

So, the soundtrack for Sonic4 Episode1 was leaked.
http://soundcloud.com/bigthecat


If you have to listen to one tune, listen to Boss Music 1!

The Splash Hill and Casino songs are rather "meh" but the Lost Labyrinth and Mad Gear songs make it all worth while. The Boss Battle songs are excellent.
Best ones for me are Labyrinth 1 and 3, Mad Gear 1, 2 and 3, and Boss Battle 2 which reminds me of something from Super Mario RPG.

Okay, all CoD games have been more than decent, and all have been published by Activision. Heck, Modern Warfare 2 and CoD 4 were a lot more than decent. I can't really say it'll be great considering that there are no screenshots and no official confirmation, but I'm going to stand by what I said for Modern Warfare 2, which is, that it will be great.as philby said, though: the new one isn't being made by the same people. it isn't being made in the same way or with the same care. MW 1 was an amazing accomplishment, refined and honed through a long development cycle. MW2 was a slightly less refined sequel with a (presumably) slightly shorter development cycle. the new one, however, is a sequel made entirely to cash in on a franchise being forced out the door by a development team that sees nothing but dollar signs. the release date is ENTIRELY too soon for there to be much in the way of advancement and I will bet the access to my forum account that it isn't half as good as even MW2.

I mean, seriously. you don't fire the two leads of a project and then expect the team they were leading to work as well as they had been before; even if you DO allow for the same amount of care they put into their previous works. if you cut the time for said works down to less than half on top of all that, you can't possibly expect good results.

as philby said, though: the new one isn't being made by the same people. it isn't being made in the same way or with the same care. MW 1 was an amazing accomplishment, refined and honed through a long development cycle. MW2 was a slightly less refined sequel with a (presumably) slightly shorter development cycle. the new one, however, is a sequel made entirely to cash in on a franchise being forced out the door by a development team that sees nothing but dollar signs. the release date is ENTIRELY too soon for there to be much in the way of advancement and I will bet the access to my forum account that it isn't half as good as even MW2.

I mean, seriously. you don't fire the two leads of a project and then expect the team they were leading to work as well as they had been before; even if you DO allow for the same amount of care they put into their previous works. if you cut the time for said works down to less than half on top of all that, you can't possibly expect good results.
The new one's being done by the World at War people, right? They use the second developer so they can release COD titles annually while maintaining a 2-year development cycle. They'll have exactly the same amount of time as IW did with MW2.

Like WaW, it's not going to be spectacular, but it won't be out and out terrible. The whole infinty ward fiasco doesn't really affect them at all.

The next Modern warfare release is likely to be subsantially worse, if reports about low morale at IW are to be belived. I doubt much of the original staff will be left at that point, not to mention potential legal proccedings etc.

The new one's being done by the World at War people, right? not from what I've understood, actually. granted, I've not looked deeply into that part, but everything I've seen has mentioned IW rather than.....Treyarch? ...whatever their company's name is.

Call of Duty Black Op's will be developed by treyarch, it has been said many times.

Even if it is as good as CoD 4, I shall be happy.

The Boss Battle 2 song is excellent.

....corrected.

Hmmm, and whoever uploaded those leaked tracks has had them deleted because they don't seem to be there anymore.....

Yeah, there's three Call Of Duty games in the works at the moment.

I'd comment about how ridiculous it is, but this is from the same publisher that makes four Guitar Hero games a year.






Okay, I know I've riffed on Sonic4 a LOT already, but this really does just take the cake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6u9qPdyzWk


Yes, that's right, they've now decided that having speed is COMPLETELY unnecessary by making it that you can just walk up slopes and loops now. I mean, one of the big complaints about the 3D games was that speed was that they copped out on needing speed by having too many speed boosts right before loops and slopes, but... UGH!
...can we start shouting PHYSICS yet?

Also, while we're on the matter:
1: It takes FAR too long to reach max speed. Especially jarring because he only gets helicopter-legs when you're going as fast as you can.
2: The falling animation. What?
3: Apparently the developers can't tell the difference between "Breaking into a sprint" and "Going for a leisurely walk".




In other matters, Gabe cancelled Episode 3.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=63028

Call of Duty Black Op's will be developed by treyarch, it has been said many times.ah, so this is treyarch's next one, then? then yeah, it'll probably be decent. about on par with World at War or a little bit better. it's IW i no longer have faith in :p

Even if it is as good as CoD 4, I shall be happy.good to know you'll be happy if it's as good as the best game of that year and one of the best shooters of all time. nice to see you're easily pleased.

Yeah, there's three Call Of Duty games in the works at the moment.

I'd comment about how ridiculous it is, but this is from the same publisher that makes four Guitar Hero games a year.






Okay, I know I've riffed on Sonic4 a LOT already, but this really does just take the cake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6u9qPdyzWk


Yes, that's right, they've now decided that having speed is COMPLETELY unnecessary by making it that you can just walk up slopes and loops now. I mean, one of the big complaints about the 3D games was that speed was that they copped out on needing speed by having too many speed boosts right before loops and slopes, but... UGH!
...can we start shouting PHYSICS yet?

Also, while we're on the matter:
1: It takes FAR too long to reach max speed. Especially jarring because he only gets helicopter-legs when you're going as fast as you can.
2: The falling animation. What?
3: Apparently the developers can't tell the difference between "Breaking into a sprint" and "Going for a leisurely walk".




In other matters, Gabe cancelled Episode 3.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=63028

Sonic video got taken down :(

The videos are all mirrored on Kokatu at the moment:

http://kotaku.com/5506325/are-these-leaked-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-videos/gallery/

Check out video 5, the one for lost labyrinth act 2 because HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA HAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S SO TERRIBLE!

ah, so this is treyarch's next one, then? then yeah, it'll probably be decent. about on par with World at War or a little bit better. it's IW i no longer have faith in :p.
World at War was fairly dull and uninspired. By no means a bad game, but it's got nothing on CoD4 or even MW2.
This is kinda true of all Treyarch installments to the franchise particularly CoD3.

The videos are all mirrored on Kokatu at the moment:

http://kotaku.com/5506325/are-these-leaked-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-videos/gallery/

Check out video 5, the one for lost labyrinth act 2 because HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA HAHAHAHAHAHA IT'S SO TERRIBLE!
I cannot begin to comprehend what I just watched.

A minecart level (in a sonic game, no less) controlled by rotating the entire stage. What.

That was probably designed for the wiimote/sixaxis and the 360 is just getting the short end of the stick. Not that it's any more appealing that way tho, it's just the obligatory "LOOK, MOTION CONTROLS" that came with the new generation.

In other matters, Gabe cancelled Episode 3.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=63028

Yeah, that's a shame, I rather enjoyed the first two. Flawed, but still good fun. Ah well.

Well, Bailout (a new amazing map included in the stimulus package) has definitely improved Mw2 a lot for me. Its an epic, large map set in apartment complex's.

As for Sonic 4, it seems to be going downhill again.

Well, Bailout (a new amazing map included in the stimulus package) has definitely improved Mw2 a lot for me. Its an epic, large map set in apartment complex's.

As for Sonic 4, it seems to be going downhill again.

I want the package for PC, but Infinity Ward hates that platform D:

I think you mean Activision.

Bloody 360. I have to wait another month. How much did you have to shell out for the map pack Shadowmoon?

Well the price on Xbox is 1200 microsoft points, I just brought a 2100 microsoft points card for £17.50 as I plan to get other stuff with it.

I think you mean Activision.one and the same these days, sadly.

going downhill again.

I see what you did there.

I see what you did there.

That wasn't actually intended :P

I'm getting Battlefield Bad Company 2 tommorow :cool:

I think you mean Activision.

Lol the publisher

No, Infinity Ward states that they don't believe in the PC as a viable gaming platform. Because they are the developers.

They even made the PC version a very half-assed attempt at porting from the console. Thank god I can even play it, considering they don't tend to the PC community at all.

Also Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the SEX

I'm getting Battlefield Bad Company 2 tommorow :cool:
I really hope you're getting the PC version.
That way you'll get a lot of the DLC (map packs as of now) for free as patches, which you'd have to buy for the consoles.

I also suggest you get the limited edition in stores that still have them, which will give you a bunch of unlocks right from the start. Especially the tracer dart gun.

The game is really good, BTW.
The most immersive war experience so far with the Destruction 2.0 engine and the realistic War Tapes audio system

I got the Xbox360 version, and the game came with a VIP code, which let me download the map's for free. And yeah i'm loving the multiplayer.

Come on Shads admit that it's better than MW2. :p

^^^Nobody really enjoys playing MW2, It just kind of makes you really angry all the time. Then you spend £10 on the map pack and begin to suspect you've developed stockholm syndrome.

Jesus christ Overgrown is a terrible map. I didn't think they could design a more obnoxiously sniper-focused levelthan Derail but by jove they did. I haven't managed to play a real game on Crash, but I get the feeling the ridiculous three-story sniper tower is going to drive me nuts. I never played MW1, but I imagine they were better balanced in the game they were actualy designed for.

It's a good thing the three real new maps are top-notch. I wish IW could somehow travel backwards through time and design all the other maps to such a high standard.

Terminal, Estate and Skidrow could really do with a few more back routes to objectives, Kerachi and Invasion could get their giant corridors of death sorted out and Derail could just not have been made in the first place godamn.

I never played MW1, but I imagine they were better balanced in the game they were actualy designed for.no, that was a terrible map even before, but mostly for reasons of disinterest rather than actual poor design. the 3 story building wasn't an issue at all in the game.

Come on Shads admit that it's better than MW2. :p

Yes, it is. I still love MW2, but Battlefield Bad Company 2 is too awesome.

Also, in MW2 the AUG Hbar with Grip and Sleight of Hand Pro, Stopping Power Pro, and whatever perk you want for perk 3 (except Scrambler) is a beast setup. I played Free for all with it yesterday, and got many beastly games with it.

If there's any gun that needs removed right now from the game, its this. I mean, grip on the AUG makes it more accurate than all 4 snipers, and its already got good damage, good accuracy and a fast reload.

I'm not that impressed with the old maps that much either, but I love Storm and Bailout so much for some reason.

Yes, it is. I still love MW2, but Battlefield Bad Company 2 is too awesome.

Also, in MW2 the AUG Hbar with Grip and Sleight of Hand Pro, Stopping Power Pro, and whatever perk you want for perk 3 (except Scrambler) is a beast setup. I played Free for all with it yesterday, and got many beastly games with it.

If there's any gun that needs removed right now from the game, its this. I mean, grip on the AUG makes it more accurate than all 4 snipers, and its already got good damage, good accuracy and a fast reload.

I'm not that impressed with the old maps that much either, but I love Storm and Bailout so much for some reason.

So the G18 akimbos are fixed on the 360? Don't tell me you think those weapons aren't overpowered.

So the G18 akimbos are fixed on the 360? Don't tell me you think those weapons aren't overpowered.

G18 akimbos are short range only?
Wouldn't say the AUG is overpowered either personally, but I never really got that gun...

G18 akimbos are short range only?
Wouldn't say the AUG is overpowered either personally, but I never really got that gun...

The younguns don't know do they :<

Pig Buster? Are you here? I seed you maked this page so come and see me some time

G18 akimbo's are still pretty deadly, unlocked them again today.

And i'm actually leaning towards the RPD now more than the AUG, because it has good iron sights IMO.

Nah if you have to use an LMG its all about the MG4 with exploding rounds :p

Tar-21 is the most awesome weapon noobs.

Pig Buster? Are you here? I seed you maked this page so come and see me some time

Don't do it pigbuster he wants to fight you and he will take your eyes and make soup

Has anyone talked about Red Dead Redemption (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-series-red-dead/64249) yet?
I'm so thrilled about this game

I would be excited, because the first game was bloody brilliant... but I don't have a 360 or PS3, and the friend that did has moved away now. So... nah!

Has anyone talked about Red Dead Redemption (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-series-red-dead/64249) yet?
I'm so thrilled about this game

That game looks brilliant indeed.

On the MW2 topic, you can play it for free this weekend on Steam.

On the MW2 topic, you can play it for free this weekend on Steam.

'S cool I guess. I've been trying to get my friend to play MW2 with me, so we could have more fun since I've been completely hooked to it, and the free weekend would be a good way to let him try it out.

I am the slorg ownar of this page!!

Has anyone talked about Red Dead Redemption (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gameplay-series-red-dead/64249) yet?
I'm so thrilled about this game

Online free roam? :eek:
Ok this game is a must buy for me. Rockstar can do no wrong in my eyes.

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In other matters, Gabe cancelled Episode 3.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=63028

HA HA HA i see what you did there

Red Dead looks great, l've been waiting for it since my friend described it to me - Fallout meets GTA, set in the Wild West.

I got the Xbox360 version, and the game came with a VIP code, which let me download the map's for free.
Yes, but all future stuff you have to pay for in the in-game shop.

Is there a better general purpose video games blog out there I could be reading instead of Kotaku, becuase seriously. (http://kotaku.com/5520937/do-not-trust-this-magazines-review-scores) I cannot wade through this crap anymore.

Is there a better general purpose video games blog out there I could be reading instead of Kotaku, becuase seriously. (http://kotaku.com/5520937/do-not-trust-this-magazines-review-scores) I cannot wade through this crap anymore.god. yeah. kotaku is fine so long as there's a lot of game news to report on, but GOD is it crap in the slow months.....I swear to god totillo is the worst journalist I have ever even heard of.

Yeah tortilla is pretty weird. But no other gaming blog out there is ran by a garlic-loving pirate who is sonic the hedgehog so I'll stick with kotaku.

edit: Also Michael Dukakis's puns.

I think what I'm trying to say is that the community there is what makes the site good for me.

Yeah tortilla is pretty weird. But no other gaming blog out there is ran by a garlic-loving pirate who is sonic the hedgehog so I'll stick with kotaku.

edit: Also Michael Dukakis's puns.

I think what I'm trying to say is that the community there is what makes the site good for me.half the site is REALLY good. the other half is REALLY bad. it's rather annoying. I kinda want them to fire totillo, fahey and a couple others so people like dukakis and his puns can reign supreme :p (assuming dukakis is the guy I'm thinking of anyway)

half the site is REALLY good. the other half is REALLY bad. it's rather annoying. I kinda want them to fire totillo, fahey and a couple others so people like dukakis and his puns can reign supreme :p (assuming dukakis is the guy I'm thinking of anyway)
http://kotaku.com/comment/22037662/

Just Bough Bomberman to the PSP...

The worst mistake i have ever did..

Yeah tortilla is pretty weird. But no other gaming blog out there is ran by a garlic-loving pirate who is sonic the hedgehog so I'll stick with kotaku.

edit: Also Michael Dukakis's puns.

I think what I'm trying to say is that the community there is what makes the site good for me.
Kotaku might be more readable if Eegra's version of Crecente was real.:p

Bah, you can take your comunity. The commments there are barely a step up from youtube.

half the site is REALLY good. the other half is REALLY bad. it's rather annoying. I kinda want them to fire totillo, fahey and a couple others so people like dukakis and his puns can reign supreme (assuming dukakis is the guy I'm thinking of anyway)
I got no clue who you're talking about, but if he's the guy who posts funny videos along with a thorough explanation of the joke in the first sentance of the blog post below it he can suck a cock.

Is there seriously no better sites out there? I'd settle for a blog that links to the worthwhile half of kotaku.:p

Just Bough Bomberman to the PSP...

The worst mistake i have ever did..
...why? I thought Bomberman PSP was a rather good game.

Is there a better general purpose video games blog out there I could be reading instead of Kotaku, becuase seriously. (http://kotaku.com/5520937/do-not-trust-this-magazines-review-scores) I cannot wade through this crap anymore.

I got to:
the publication has shown that, as a source of objective game reviews, it cannot be trusted.
and realised it was full of ****.

http://kotaku.com/comment/22037662/not who I was thinking. there's a member of kotaku staff who has a rather enjoyable way with puns. I've seen a few of his news articles in the past, but don't remember who it was.

I got to:

and realised it was full of ****.

The maing gist of it was 'the magazine features in the game, and famitsu's owner features in adverts for the game (printed in the magazine) therefore they must have been paid off to give it a perfect score".

Despite 1) famitsu's history of giving MGS games high scores (MGS$ got a perfect 40 too) and b) why would the biggest and most respected videogame magazine in japan take a bribe to big up a game they would likely give a very positive review anyway? This isn't some dickhead from IGN giving Goldenaxe beast rider an 9/10 this is a respected magazine giving a AAA title top marks, not to mention this isn't the first time Famitsu has been featured in a game, should we discount their review of No More Heroes too?

Also this is a Japenese Magazine, so 99% of Kotaku's readers will never have the opertunity to buy this magazine they probably can't even read.

All of this under a gigantic sensationalis headline decrying the magazine as completely untrustworthy. Investagative journalism at it's finest.:p

...why? I thought Bomberman PSP was a rather good game.

No there where 2 versions

Here are 13 facts about Portal 2 taken from the UK Xbox magazine.

1. THIS IS NOT A TEST

The original Portal was a relatively short experience buried away in 2007's The Orange Box, as Valve genuinely didn't know if anybody would like it. Having ascertained that everybody does, the sequel is bigger, bolder and longer, so we're expecting a full retail release when it arrives this Christmas.

2. THE BANDS BACK TOGETHER (AND BIGGER)

The bigger project requires a bigger development team, with Valve swelling its numbers from eight to 24. Original script writer Erik Wolpaw returns and is aided by both Left 4 Dead series writer Chet Faliszek and College Humour/National Lampoon humorist Jay Pinkerton.

3. AND THE MUSIC IS STILL ALIVE

Also reappearing is Jonathan Coulton, who penned credit-closer song Still Alive. While Valve thinks there will be a song finale again, don't count on it being a remix - the original track will be threaded through the game proper, making appearances in surprising ways.

4. GLADOS RETURNS

The crazy AI rises from the grave to torment/test Aperture Science Lab rat Chell, who was recaptured at the end of the first game. Valve wants to continue and deepen the relationship between you and GLaDOS. How vindictive is the psychotic AI going to be now that you've killed her once?

5. SHE'S NOT ALONE...

The orbs that you saw light up in the room with the cake at the original's end? They are Personality Cores and play a big role in the sequel. Similiar to GLaDOS, they're imbued with their own personality. Since her 'death' in the original, they've taken over the running of the Aperture Science facility and are trying to clean the place up. The first one you meet who awakens you is Wheatley, who you can carry and use at the game's start to jack into ports to open doors and throw switches.

6. BUT NEITHER ARE YOU

Portal 2 will come with both a full single- player and cooperative- player campaign. The leatter casts you and a friend as sentient mechanoids, evolved from a gun turret and Personality Core. You have to work together using a portal gun each to solve puzzles, requiring a lot of team talk for precise timing. You can play online or split-screen.

7. ITS FUTURE IMPERFECT

The game's set hundreds of years after the first, with lush vegetation overrunning a lot of the once- sterile building, constrasting sharply with the Apple- like design aesthetic. What's happened in the intervening years will be explained, but not, we're told, through Bioshock style audio diaries.

8. ITS A FRESH INSTALL

With the lab a wreck, GLaDOS is rebuilding as you start your new set of tests. As such, you'll be travelling through test rooms, and downtrodden maintenance areas from the start as GLaDOS haphazardly directs you to the next puzzle room. So expect a lot more behind the scenes views of the facility.

9. IT'S PIPE MANIA

You used them as temporary escape chutes in the original, but now the Pneumatic Diversity Ports that deposited Weighed Storage Cubes into test rooms are now new gameplay mechanics. The glorified suction tubes are perfect for hoovering up gun turrets with a well- placed portal or two.

10. THERE'S A NEW PLAYGROUND

There are new toys in the test rooms. Aerial Faith Plates can project items or Chell with 50,000 foot- pounds of brute force across a room. Thermal Discouragement Beams can be redirected through special reflection cubes to take out gun turrets, and tractor beams transport you to otherwise unreachable locations. Prepare to learn some new skills.

11. IT'S A BIT ARTY

A new gameplay element is coloured substances with physic changing properties, Splashing the orange 'paint' on any surface will work like uber- grease, speeding up anything that runs or slides across it, whereas the blue- toned liquid turns anything it touches to rubber. Floors become trampolines and covered Weighed Storage Cubes become glass- smashing bouncy balls of death.

12. E3 WILL BE A HUGE SUCCESS

GLaDOS did a Kayne West during Gabe Newell's acceptance speech at GDC, interrupting her creator's acceptance speech monitor with a fake blue screen of death. Decrypting the code on the screen, revealed the message "UNTIL EEE" Look for Portal 2 to make a big splash at E3, with a release date announced.

13. THE CAKE IS A LIE. SERIOUSLY.

While the hate/hate relationship of GLaDOS and Chell continues and there'll be a few audio nods to the Still Alive theme, its unlikely that any such fattening rewards will appear. Valve's seemingly unwilling to re- tread a joke that burnt itself out long ago.

You're a bit late with that - we got pretty much all that information from the GameInformer scans in March.

Linky Here (http://portalwiki.net/index.php/GameInformer_Portal_Exclusive)

You're a bit late with that - we got pretty much all that information from the GameInformer scans in March.

Linky Here (http://portalwiki.net/index.php/GameInformer_Portal_Exclusive)well I don't read game informer, so I'd missed all that stuff.

thank you, shad.

Can anyone advise on wether Just Cause 2 is worth getting? because most people in my school, even one of my teachers says its brilliant.

Can anyone advise on wether Just Cause 2 is worth getting? because most people in my school, even one of my teachers says its brilliant.
From what I've heard, it's brilliant. The world is absolutely massive, the missions are really varied (which is a real surprise, since compared to the original...), the general mechanics are great... but on the downside, the world is absolutely massive. And it has no qualms about spacing missions really far away!


Also, horrible voice-acting.

From what I've heard, it's brilliant. The world is absolutely massive, the missions are really varied (which is a real surprise, since compared to the original...), the general mechanics are great... but on the downside, the world is absolutely massive. And it has no qualms about spacing missions really far away!


Also, horrible voice-acting.

MY NAME IS BOLOOOO SANTOSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Play the demo for a feel of it.

Can anyone advise on wether Just Cause 2 is worth getting? because most people in my school, even one of my teachers says its brilliant.

I bought it. It is brilliant fun destroying the entire island and the mission are just massive set ups for some crazy brainless fun. The physics are a little iffy and the island is far, far too big imo. Too much empty land. Also the voice acting and storyline is flat out retarded.

The game is great, lots of fun to be had. As mentioned already, it has a few problems, like terrible voice acting, and the island is VERY big. However, getting around isn't to difficult, thanks to your grappleshute.

Can anyone advise on wether Just Cause 2 is worth getting?
Get the Rockstar Collection instead for £29.99/$42.49/€42.49 while it's still on -50% discount on Steam this week!
You'll get 13 games including the whole GTA series: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4247/

Get the Rockstar Collection instead for £29.99/$42.49/€42.49 while it's still on -50% discount on Steam this week!
You'll get 13 games including the whole GTA series: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4247/
It's not showing up for me. :s

Does anybody own both Episodes From Liberty City? I bought the Ballad of Gay Tony on the Playstation store and it is a hell of a lot of fun. However I've now completed it and the majority of reviews I've read state that BoGT is unquestionably the better of the two and makes Lost & Damned seem almost pale in comparison. I'm toying on whether or not to get it, because I love these games and I am looking for something to fill up my time until Red Dead Redemption comes out.

Does anybody own both Episodes From Liberty City? I bought the Ballad of Gay Tony on the Playstation store and it is a hell of a lot of fun. However I've now completed it and the majority of reviews I've read state that BoGT is unquestionably the better of the two and makes Lost & Damned seem almost pale in comparison. I'm toying on whether or not to get it, because I love these games and I am looking for something to fill up my time until Red Dead Redemption comes out.

I loved the Lost and Damned. Riding a bike with a gang is awesome.

Well I preordered ModNation Racers, I can't wait to get it, Haven't preordered anything since 08, but this broke my spree. Anyone here getting the game as well?

Well I preordered ModNation Racers, I can't wait to get it, Haven't preordered anything since 08, but this broke my spree. Anyone here getting the game as well?

I'll probably get it, but not for a while I guess. I still have too much unfinished games in my hands.

Speaking of my pile of shame, I would like to add the GTA Collection on steam to it(not that I don't plan on playing them games upon purchase, just that I don't have a gaming rig at the moment), but it seems the collection is not available in my region. Anybody know a way to get around that? :(

Most of you have probably already seen this : http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/534416

But it's still worth posting, in case some of you haven't. It's basically the entire Super Mario Bros NES game recreated on flash, except now you can choose from a wide selection of beloved NES characters: Mario, Link, Bill R.(Contra), Simon(Castlevania), Megaman and Samus.

Pretty sure everyone's already had this idea at some point, but it's finally been done and made public by someone. And it is just as awesome as we all imagined it to be. :D

The world 1-1 stage in mugen doesn't count as it's nowhere near as awesome as this. :mad:

I also recommend you download it before it inevitably gets taken down due to copyright claims. :p

so InstantAction.com (http://www.instantaction.com/) is back and in a big way!

they're now offering a service that allows you to play any of their games anywhere you could embed a video. right now the only game they have up and running is the Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition, but eventually they'll have their previous catalogue of awesome free games as well as a slew of new games (like Braid). these games offer free demos for a limited time and then you can pay to own the full version, all done within the confines of whatever website you're on that's hosting the embedded player.

for a demo of this new technique, Kotaku's posted a blog and included a copy of the game in that post. http://kotaku.com/5528245/you-can-play-the-secret-of-monkey-island-inside-this-post

this should prove to be an EXTREMELY effective method by which people can sell indie games. one that's even more convenient than Steam. InstantAction has even cooperated with facebook so any game they host on their site can be played as simply as an app on facebook, allowing even the unlearned masses access to great games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLbVE9_BDxY

The first trailer for the upcoming Call of Duty game: Black Ops, which has a planned release date of November 9th.

In it, you can see the AUG HBAR, which is from Modern Warfare 2 and looks unchanged, one noticable thing though is that it is shorter, so it must be the AUG assault rifle...

Call of Duty 7 - long rumoured to be set in Vietnam - will feature the custom killstreaks introduced in Modern Warfare 2.

That's according to the eagle-eyed super-fans at CoD Vietnam News, who've dug through Treyarch's recent forum comments with a fine comb to compile a list of things we know about the next Call of Duty (which admittedly isn't much).

Apparently, the developer's 'Treyarch dev Vahn' (real name David Vonderhaar - Multiplayer Design Director for the upcoming CoD game) has strongly suggested the firm will ditch a lot of the imbalances of MW2 multiplayer, including the Commando perk and the controversial nuke killstreak.

Previous rumours suggested the game will be called 'Black Ops' and feature SAS missions in Iran, according to an 'Activision insider'.

Here's what they came up with:

* While they've tried having custom killstreaks for each class, that seemed to complicate the 'purity and speed' of Create a Class.
* Consequently, it's fair to assume that customizable killstreaks are all but confirmed.
* At this stage in development, killstreaks stack and carry over if you die, but do not contribute to further killstreaks (hence eliminating the 'camping for killstreaks' problem of Modern Warfare 2).
* Treyarch are not fans of Commando, the extended melee range perk in Modern Warfare 2, and it is unlikely to return.
* They've tried a 'manned' version of the Sentry Gun killstreak, but weren't fans.
* We may well see a return to pistols as the only available sidearm, or perhaps a choice between pistols and launchers. Vahn and many of the team are not fans of shotguns and machine pistols as secondary weapons - it gives a player 'too much firepower'.
* The knife may well become a secondary weapon - although Vahn didn't want to say too much.
* Finally, don't expect the nuke to return as a killstreak. Vahn says they are not fans of a game-ending killstreak
Oh hey wait that doesn't sound terrible. That doesn't sound terrible at all!

Well, they're the sorta things that you do think are improvements, but then realise that they're all the sorta things that shouldn't have been in MW2 in the first place.

Well, they're the sorta things that you do think are improvements, but then realise that they're all the sorta things that shouldn't have been in MW2 in the first place.this. looks to me like they're going to be rereleasing MW2 just with common sense thrown into the balancing process.

which is a good thing, don't get me wrong.

makes me almost wish treyarch had made MW2 instead of IW, sadly.

Commando is gone and I couldn't be happier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0T5l24JL0

LITTLEBIGPLANET 2. Holy crap, I think I shat myself. It looks mind-blowing. :eek:

Is that some Micro Machines i see there?

Holy crap, I think I shat myself. It looks mind-blowing. :eek:
...I don't see it. They don't really look like MIND-BLOWING graphics to me. Or... really any different from the originals, aside from a change in lighting.

Although I do have interest in that make-non-platform-games part! ...assuming it's not just massive over-hype, of course. Those sorta things... generally are.

http://screwattack.com/videos/Mega-Man

Oh my goooooood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0T5l24JL0

LITTLEBIGPLANET 2. Holy crap, I think I shat myself. It looks mind-blowing. :eek:

Is that some Micro Machines i see there?

I think is mind-blowing too
I can only pray that now you can add characters to the levels that looks like other sackboys, not some giant cardboard in the shape of one

http://screwattack.com/videos/Mega-Man

Oh my goooooood.

Allredy knew that :P here is the official website: http://www.megamanfilm.com/home.html

http://screwattack.com/videos/Mega-Man

Oh my goooooood.oh hey! it's finally been released! I'd forgotten about it, thanks philby!

Sounds like you can make sackboy enemies, using the sackbots, which is l understand correctly, you can put costumes on.

I can only pray that now you can add characters to the levels that looks like other sackboys, not some giant cardboard in the shape of one
Yes you can. There's also basic AI you can give them!

basic

Whoa whoa whoa... basic? I think not.

Whoa whoa whoa... basic? I think not.
That...

That sure is a descriptive post you got there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0T5l24JL0

LITTLEBIGPLANET 2. Holy crap, I think I shat myself. It looks mind-blowing. :eek:

Is that some Micro Machines i see there?

My god that's amazing. I can't wait! :D

http://screwattack.com/videos/Mega-Man

Oh my goooooood.
Oh..
Oh god...

That... was a HORRIBLE movie!


The acting was fairly good for an amateur movie, the effects were too, but... the script just COMPLETELY ruins it all!
(Wall of text incoming! Yeah, I really went overboard with this)

1: No sense of subtlety. At all! You never get the impression that Wiley turned rotten, he just SUDDENLY EVIL. You wouldn't be able to tell that Megaman wanted to be human if he didn't outright say "I want to be human"! You instantly know who the MYSTERY MAN is, but the movie will still act like it's a major revelation... about half an hour later!

2: The characters are completely lacking in personality or development! That normally wouldn't be a bad thing... except literally half of the movie is about focusing on the characters and their lives, and it just ends up feeling like filler! Also, everyone is ridiculously melodramatic; and it gets especially bad when they start going on about how it might not be a good idea to try save everyone in the city because Rock might die in the process! The only one to get ANY amount of characterisation or development at all is Wiley, at the VERY end, where he does a "I'm so sorry" thing. Yes, even when you KNOW that he's completely lying about it all, it STILL feels like more characterisation then anyone else in the movie!

3: The actual combat is rubbish! I don't mean the effects, they were good, or the directing/acting, I mean that there's absolutely no sense of tension whatsoever! Megaman is portrayed as near-completely untouchable, the robot masters go down in at most two hits, and... they hardly ever fight, they just have an affinity for standing there and getting pulverised! Guts Man was utterly ridiculous, because after cornering Megaman and pretty much being able to finish him in one hit... he just stands there as Megaman tries out several different attacks on him! And when they do attack, the attacks are pretty much entirely useless. Apparently not only is he completely fireproof, but even Cut Man's claws just... bounce off of him! Not kidding! And in the few cases where he DOES get actually injured? It's without an actual battle, as the attacks are apparently SUPER EFFECTIVE and he doesn't get to fight. Oh yeah, and in those cases, it's so that he can be rescued by a guy that is literally invincible!

4: There's no deviation from the norm here whatsoever. The entire plot is PRECISELY the same as the infamously-rubbish game's one, except for three things: 1) the inclusion of the MYSTERY MAN, who is completely unsuited for the story because he's portrayed as far more powerful than Megaman... but doesn't do squat! 2) the whole Roll kidnapping thing. Which... doesn't go anywhere because the only reason she was captured was to encourage Megaman to try fight him. Yeah. Apparently stopping him from destroying a major city and everyone in it wasn't considered enough of a motive. Oh, except for at the end of that whole thing, where Rock has to choose between his life and hers. He decides to surrender his life (yes, apparently Roll's life is more important than everyone in the city! Goddam this plot was stupid!), at which point Dr Wiley throws Roll outside and... lets Megaman go. Not. Kidding.

5: IT'S STUPID ON A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF LEVELS!

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tl; dr

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You just wasted 5 minutes of my life, and god knows how much of yours

That... was a HORRIBLE movie!ok, I'm not reading the rest of that wall, but....seriously?! you couldn't tell by the website? or the name of the movie? or the appearance of the actor on the banner ad? or just the fact that it's a MOVIE only on the INTERNET?!

wordsHardcore gamer and movie critic Plasma weighs in on how a fan movie completely missed the mark on Mega Man's incredibly serious, deep and detailed plot.

If you have an Ipod Touch/Iphone and your looking for a good puzzle game, get Angry Birds, it is the number 1 payed app across numerous countries, plus its 59 p which is just a bit more than the average packet of crisps, and its also got over 5000 ratings, on top of that its got a 5 star rating, too.

Plus there's over 120 levels, and about 40 more are still to be added.

Plasma, if you believe that the special effects and acting were good even for an amature movie then you have no idea what the word good means.

And it wasn't so much a case the script being a poor adaptation of the plot of Megaman, it's more a case of trying to adapt an action-oriented videogame about robots with zero plot on a five figure budget is a terrible idea in the first place.

Nothing in the film made much sencse at all. How did Megaman hold his own against all six Robot masters simultaneously, but strugle when he fought them indavidually? Why were all the robots (that didn't look like they belonged in PS1 era cutscenes) asian?

Most importantly, if Dr Light decided not to develop weapons for the military why were there so many incredibly destructive weapons lyng around his wharehouse? And why did he already have two battle suit upgrades ready for his housecleaning surrogate children robots?

Willy was pretty great, his stupid accent, shape shifting moustache and pantomime acting put him head and shoulders above anything else in the film. 'Mine's better than yours' almost made the 90 minutes I wasted watching this godawful film worthwhile. Almost.

i can't wait for the directors next film: GHOSTBUSTERS GENERATION (http://www.eddielebron.com/filmography/ghostbusters/)

If you have an Ipod Touch/Iphone and your looking for a good puzzle game, get Angry Birds, it is the number 1 payed app across numerous countries, plus its 59 p which is just a bit more than the average packet of crisps, and its also got over 5000 ratings, on top of that its got a 5 star rating, too.

Plus there's over 120 levels, and about 40 more are still to be added.

Please dont change the subject, we're not finished slamming Plasma

Please dont change the subject, we're not finished slamming Plasma

But its really awesome! even my teacher loves it :p

I read Plasma's wall of text

Even though I agree in most of stuff, I think it is stupidly obvious, so I wouldn't even bother to pointing all of that out

Instead of watching the Megaman movie, I found a much shorter and better use of my time: The Original Star Wars Trilogy in 3 minutes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0z_TU4Gw5o&feature=player_embedded)

Portal is free (PC & Mac) until the 24th May on Steam as part of there celebration for the MAC Steam.

Have you got "mapathy" from the recently released Modern Warfare 2 maps?

The cure is coming, on June 3rd. There's even screenies, and a Carnival map, which sounds a little odd, but exciting. Its still the same price though.

http://www.incgamers.com/News/22650/call-of-duty-resurgence-map-pack-shots

Hahaahaha, I once bought ten great indie games for the same price you'll pay for ten of those maps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0T5l24JL0
LITTLEBIGPLANET 2
I rather play Little Big Adventure 2.
Is that some Micro Machines i see there?
I rather wait for the next real Micro Machines game and play MMV4 in the mean time.
http://screwattack.com/videos/Mega-Man
Oh, no!
I really hope that this doesn't give Uwe Boll ideas... :eek:

Hahaahaha, I once bought ten great indie games for the same price you'll pay for ten of those maps.

I remember getting a ****load of maps for $30 less than both of those packs cost, when I used to play TFC and CS.

What's with all the old grumps all of a sudden?

Things cost money, boo hoo hoo.

Things cost money, boo hoo hoo.

As a student this is a legitimate reason to cry.

Things cost money, boo hoo hoo.
Full game costs $50. Game includes full single player campaign, and multiplayer with 16 maps.
10 maps released afterwards cost $30. You have to admit this is a blatant ripoff, specially when four of those maps are reused from a previous game...

I don't have a probelm with dlc, I have a problem with overprized dlc, and idiots who buy it because it creates ripples. Bad ripples.

Full game costs $50. Game includes full single player campaign, and multiplayer with 16 maps.
10 maps released afterwards cost $30. You have to admit this is a blatant ripoff, specially when four of those maps are reused from a previous game...

I don't have a probelm with dlc, I have a problem with overprized dlc, and idiots who buy it because it creates ripples. Bad ripples.
The last COD game charged 800 points for three maps, so 1200 points for five is hardly unprecidented. People have been paying this much for years, this is just the first time they've released so many maps at once.

It's great that those other games had free offical map packs and map editors, but frankly I'm not playing those games. I'm playing MW2 online and the 1st Map pack greatly enhanced my enjoyment of a game I've already played for 50 hours.

There are many worse ways to spend £12.

On a completely unrelated subject: This is completely amazing. (http://www.nofna.com/?T=1-1-999-1)

On a completely unrelated subject: This is completely amazing. (http://www.nofna.com/?T=1-1-999-1)

I think I understood that.
Right up until he suddenly appeared in the stadium, that is.

I think I understood that.
Right up until he suddenly appeared in the stadium, that is.
If it helps, the katakana is simply 'Pi-Ka'.

It makes more sense now sleep has occurred.

On a completely unrelated subject: This is completely amazing. (http://www.nofna.com/?T=1-1-999-1)heh php

That's all I got to say on the matter. :p

http://whywasibanned.com/2010/04/26/teh/

That's some mad unitentional comic timing going on there.

On a completely unrelated subject: This is completely amazing. (http://www.nofna.com/?T=1-1-999-1)

Hard to understand the first panels but that really is amazing

Nevermind, just got it all at a second look
That's very cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqaAidbkfo&feature=player_embedded

now that is how you do a HD re-imagining of a classic 2D series. Sega take notes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqaAidbkfo&feature=player_embedded

now that is how you do a HD re-imagining of a classic 2D series. Sega take notes.

Yeah the original game parts looks nice, but the new stuff they've added looks absolutely terrible. Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 are my favourite games ever, and this new stuff just doen't fit in the EWJ universe. Also some of the animation frames seem off, and I can't help but notice.

Oh yeah, and that horrible new voice! BLEH.

Basically, Earthworm Jim without Doug Tennapel in control is a travesty, and it makes me sad. :(

What about that EWJ movie they announced? And the new game? And why don't the TV series continue and why are they cancelled from German TV? ):-/

now that is how you do a HD re-imagining of a classic 2D series. Sega take notes.
Since when was Sega a big remake-happy company?

Yeah the original game parts looks nice, but the new stuff they've added looks absolutely terrible.
Eh, not really. The co-op stuff, which is just previous level sprites but with much different layouts and spaced much closer together, sure - but that's a given, I highly doubt regular levels would work for co-op. But the New Levels part looks fine to me.

But on the other hand,
Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 are my favourite games ever, and this new stuff just doen't fit in the EWJ universe.
I have no idea what you meant by this. Like, in the slightest.

I have no idea what you meant by this. Like, in the slightest.
Grannies with rockets attached to their backs? That seems like forced randomness to me.

Keyboard Cat in EWJ? Srsly? They're actually resorting to using internet memes?

Those things in the Intestinal Distress style level with the eyeballs look out of place. That swarm of metal things (which transforms into this:http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=431669&id=216238295505&ref=mf#!/photo.php?pid=12467616&id=216238295505) is just awful and doesn't fit.

Plasma you're a fooking retard. :cool: I wasn't talking about the co-op stuff i was talking about the new levels and enemies.

I dunno, this game looks friggin' interesting to me... I wanna have it!

Grannies with rockets attached to their backs? That seems like forced randomness to me.

Would fit to Worms perfectly though :cool:

I dunno, this game looks friggin' interesting to me... I wanna have it!

Well, if the original levels are intact then it'll still be worth getting. They're amazing! It's when you get the new levels, expect a sudden feeling of... "ehh this seems like a RATHER sudden drop in quality!" :p

Grannies with rockets attached to their backs? That seems like forced randomness to me.

Keyboard Cat in EWJ? Srsly? They're actually resorting to using internet memes?

Reminds me of when Yahtzee criticised 'Spolsion Man.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/6432-Extra-Punctuation-Splosion-Man

I never played the originals so I can't compare - but Jim's voice does appear to change between two rather distinct styles.

And yeah; pop-culture references don't make a game good.

I'd disagree on the eyeballs, and the rocket-granny and metal-swarm-thing don't seem too out of place, but-
Keyboard Cat in EWJ? Srsly? They're actually resorting to using internet memes?
AAAAH DAMNIT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT?!

I'm almost sure Thurbo didn't played the originals, and this new players won't have this nostalgic comparison problem
I agree that skull looks completely stupid. Looks like something from Megaman or Pokémon
The memes are equaly stupid... I don't, feels weird having these internal jokes from the internet on a different kind of media like gaming. Yeah it's gaming on-line but it's not like a 4Chan board, it shouldn't have anything that relates to it...

But all the rest looks great and I'll probably end up getting it

It does look cool. While the additions are kinda meh, they did a very good job at remaking the art and music. Shame there's no PC version. :(

Yeah the original game parts looks nice, but the new stuff they've added looks absolutely terrible. Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 are my favourite games ever, and this new stuff just doen't fit in the EWJ universe. Also some of the animation frames seem off, and I can't help but notice.Modern remakes always have the side-effect of making the animations look funny, since while the game and art style become smoother and more defined, the animations stay the same and become slow and jumpy.

Since when was Sega a big remake-happy company?Sonic. :p

I'm almost sure Thurbo didn't played the originals, and this new players won't have this nostalgic comparison problem


What the? Earthworm Jim 2 was my very first Jump'N'Run I played with the age of 5! Even before Super Mario!
Well since I still own these games, also for GBA, and am also still watching the tv series I don't really feel nostalgic at the moment, no. :p
What I have to say is the new voice sucks really. As far as I know, TenNapel himself lend EWJ his voice in the originals?

I also haven't seen enough of the remake yet to be able to compare it properly.

(What do you think of EWJ 3D, btw? It took ages for me to complete it since the level of difficulty was extremely high :-/, but I actually liked it.)

(What do you think of EWJ 3D, btw? It took ages for me to complete it since the level of difficulty was extremely high :-/, but I actually liked it.)

I really liked EWJ 3D, I thought it was loads of fun. Flawed, sure, but still a good game. And yes, there were some very difficult sections, particularly if you open up Hard mode. :eek: Those damn Grannies...

I really liked EWJ 3D, I thought it was loads of fun. Flawed, sure, but still a good game. And yes, there were some very difficult sections, particularly if you open up Hard mode. :eek: Those damn Grannies...

Earthworm Jim 3D was a shambles. Another fine example of how the game needs Doug Tennapel to be in charge for it to work :p

I played it on my Ipod and just uninstalled it straight away, really didn't like it.

If anything should have a HD remake, it should be Rayman. Remains one of my best 2D platformers of all time.

If anything should have a HD remake, it should be Rayman. Remains one of my best 2D platformers of all time.

This. Provided they don't do anything stupid, it'd be quite good.

This. Provided they don't do anything stupid, it'd be quite good.

Oh god yes, if they made more Rayman games in the style of the first one or remade it, I'd explode from joy

I never did play the 3D sequels, but the orriginal rayman is a wonderful game indeed (even if I did basically cheat my from the lobster boss to the end). Although isn't the rayman dude busy making Beyond Good and Evil 2 right now or am I getting my french developers in a muddle...

Also, SPLIT/SECOND is awesome. I went from 8th to first by dropping a boat on everone in front of me. Then I got an acheivemnet for it.

I don't know what happened to the franchise after Mega Drive...
Didn't even knew there was a Game Cube version

If anything should have a HD remake, it should be Rayman. Remains one of my best 2D platformers of all time.

Ah, good old Rayman. If you haven't already, I highly suggest trying the 3D sequels as well, particularly Rayman 2: The Great Escape. They're very good.

If anything should have a HD remake, it should be Rayman. Remains one of my best 2D platformers of all time.

Rayman constantly gets remaked, also for DSi now as far as I know. I bought Rayman Advance and DS immidiately although I already played both for PC :cool:

Rayman 3 was my favourite (due to its humour and it was more "cheerful" and slightly easier than Rayman 2 as well)

Considering humour I actually think Raving Rabbids were best but some of you may not approve it as an actual Rayman game, do you?

Considering humour I actually think Raving Rabbids were best but some of you may not approve it as an actual Rayman game, do you?

Leave this place.

Speaking about Rayman...

There was a rumour about Ancel leaving Ubisoft some time ago, and the rumour was false. HOWEVER.

http://img1.livegen.fr/00/00/27/99/0000279937.jpg

And then this:

http://emploi.afjv.com/emploi_jeux_video.php?r=ECEP110-1180

Apparently Ubisoft Montpellier are hiring for a new 2D HD game. That just screams a Rayman sequel to most. Personally, I can't wait until this is announced. :D

If thats true then that is awesome. I've played through all 3 and loved them all, although Rayman 1 remains my personal favourite, and one of my favourite 2D platformers.

Rayman constantly gets remaked, also for DSi now as far as I know. I bought Rayman Advance and DS immidiately although I already played both for PC

Yeah but those are just ports of Rayman 1 with no changes, i'm talking about a brand new Rayman based on Rayman 1. It would be awesome, and i'm sure so many people would buy it too.

Well, hopefully Rayman truly does return soon, its been far too long now.

Considering humour I actually think Raving Rabbids were best but some of you may not approve it as an actual Rayman game, do you?

Raving Rabbids 1 was ok, Rabbids 2 was ok, didn't bother getting 3 because I was fed up of them sticking to Rabbids all the time, and then i'm not getting Rabbids Go Home for the same reason as before, and also because it looks crap. Has anyone played/got it?

I'm personalyl excited about what Sony will reveal at E3 even though I don't have a PS3 or PSP. There's inFamous 2, Ghost of Sparta, Resistance 3 and so much more..

New Vanquish trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-vanquish/100954

We've got approximately eight hours to stop that from happening. We will stop that from happening!

Best out-of-context dialog in existence. I can seriously watch that opening line 50 times and it will never stop being hilarious. If someone doesn't make a Youtube Poop that uses this I might have to do it myself.

Wonderfully silly dialog aside, though, I cannot wait for this thing. The number of awesome moments in this trailer alone is a good sign, though to be honest it's mostly because Mikami is behind it that I'm so excited. The guy knows how to make a good game, and I'm honestly running out of people I can trust to bring something good to the table. Free Radical was gobbled up by Crytek, Nintendo has been consistently disappointing me lately, etc. Sigh.

Raving Rabbids 1 was ok, Rabbids 2 was ok, didn't bother getting 3 because I was fed up of them sticking to Rabbids all the time, and then i'm not getting Rabbids Go Home for the same reason as before, and also because it looks crap. Has anyone played/got it?

Good lord, there's a third Rabbids game? Are they going to do anything with the Rayman universe that actually involves... well... Rayman? Also, I just want to say that I seem to be one of the six people who actually liked Hoodlum Havoc as much as the first two 3D games. The combo system was unique and interesting, dang it.

Also, I just want to say that I seem to be one of the six people who actually liked Hoodlum Havoc as much as the first two 3D games. The combo system was unique and interesting, dang it.

I'm one of those six people too. Hoodlum Havoc was good fun. Though I seem to have a tendency to like sequels that are generally ragged on (Earthworm Jim 3D, 3D Lemmings, et cetera).

Good lord, there's a third Rabbids game? Are they going to do anything with the Rayman universe that actually involves... well... Rayman?Four: 1, 2, Tv Party and Rabbids Go Home.

However the last one no longer has the Rayman name or any references to it (kinda ironic since it's the first one being made by the Rayman designer :p), so it's fair to say it's grown into its own cash cow.

Hoodlum Havoc was good, but I feel it lacked something. The voice synching was always a bit off too. Great music though, I loved it.

The powerup system was quite good, albeit it solved most of the puzzles for you. If they'd had a cracked wall instead of the same old same old wooden doors, even, it could have been livened up a bit. Some of the secrets were pretty cool, like a room containing models of all the pirates from Rayman 2.

New Vanquish trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-vanquish/100954that looks like fun. it looks like the writing is terrible, but it seems fun in the way that Sin & Punishment was fun. just plain old entertainment, not meant to be serious.

Yep, I also l also loved the combo system. It was great fun thinking in every part of the level of how to make the most points, like using suits to double them and remembering to collect less valuable jewels at last.

Some of the secrets were pretty cool, like a room containing models of all the pirates from Rayman 2.

As far as I remember I never found that one! You gotta show me :p

(Maybe I just can't remember and actually found it, but that's the same thing :p)

As far as I remember I never found that one! You gotta show me :p

(Maybe I just can't remember and actually found it, but that's the same thing :p)

When you enter the Hoodlum Headquarters Foundry (you can't miss it, the announcer says it when you get into the area - it's also the part where the FLOOR IS LAVA) you get to a section where you must jump from left to right and back again up a series of platforms which are moving down. It's required to progress, so it's not hidden away. Instead of jumping off when you get to the ledge, keep fighting upwards and jump to the right off of the top. If you've got good eyesight, you'll see a square hole in the rounded machine in the background. You simply helicopter into there and there it is!

this (http://3dnes.blogspot.com/) is actually extremely neat and I suggest everyone give it a play through.

this (http://3dnes.blogspot.com/) is actually extremely neat and I suggest everyone give it a play through.

It would be perfect if he inverted vertical aiming as at the moment its just annoying D: but looks well done. It's impossible to kill skeletons and darknuts D:

It would be perfect if he inverted vertical aiming as at the moment its just annoying D: but looks well done. it's not a flight sim. learn to play. :p

It's impossible to kill skeletons and darknuts D:no it's not. I killed both.

It would be perfect if he inverted vertical aiming as at the moment its just annoying D: but looks well done. It's impossible to kill skeletons and darknuts D:

It uses standard FPS aiming control.

It uses standard FPS aiming control.

Most (if not all) FPSs give you the option to invert vertical aim. Personally I use invert for a mouse and normal for a dualshock, though inverse seems more logical to me in any situation

I use inverted verticle aim because its what the majority of FPS games default to or at least provide the option for and as such is what I am most comfortable with.

I use inverted verticle aim because its what the majority of FPS games default to

I have yet to play a PC FPS game where this is the case. I'm not so sure about consoles.

I feel like I used to play FPS games with inverted aim, but I can't play that way at all anymore.

I feel like I used to play FPS games with inverted aim, but I can't play that way at all anymore.

This

limithingy

I feel like I used to play FPS games with inverted aim, but I can't play that way at all anymore.ditto .

I have yet to play a PC FPS game where this is the case. I'm not so sure about consoles.

I included an "or" in the sentence as well as my memory is fuzzy on the defaults games use.

I included an "or" in the sentence as well as my memory is fuzzy on the defaults games use.I think his comment is still warranted, myself. I mean, you made it sound like it's the main way games are meant to be played, but it's not even a universal option. and I sure as heck haven't seen it default anywhere :p

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is absolutely amazing.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is absolutely amazing.
This.
Best Wii game to date.

I hate you both...

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is absolutely amazing.

As is Monster Hunter 3: Tri.

I still haven't played Galaxy 2. MH3 refuses to leave the console.

In actuality, Super Mario Galaxy 2 was... not all that amazing for me. It feels an awful lot just like the original (especially since it's an expansion-esque game. That's not intrinsically a bad thing, but it doesn't mean it's amazing). Yes, the levels are more creative and more fun in general, but... not by a massive amount. And in its aim to avoid so much level re-using like the other 3D Super Mario games, it loses a good bit of the charm in the levels. Even levels in the same galaxy don't feel like they're set in the same place.
I don't really like the New Super Mario Bros-esque form of level progression (you advance to the next galaxy by getting one star on the previous, until you reach an "X stars required" route block), because when you're not at one of those route blocks, you don't have as much a feeling of progression from doing older galaxies.
Also, I miss having a proper character like Rosalina. The Big Luma is just far too generic, motiveless, and doesn't feel like it has any sort of presence in the game.

So yeah, while SMG2 has better gameplay, it lost a lot of thecharm the original had. Overall, I'd really pitch it as precisely on par with SMG1.


Although in actuality, that's probably a good thing. One of the things I really really hate about sequels is that they nearly always make the older games seem horribly outdated and unvaried, to the point where you can't really have much fun playing them.

In actuality, Super Mario Galaxy 2 was... not all that amazing for me. It feels an awful lot just like the original (especially since it's an expansion-esque game. That's not intrinsically a bad thing, but it doesn't mean it's amazing). Yes, the levels are more creative and more fun in general, but... not by a massive amount. And in its aim to avoid so much level re-using like the other 3D Super Mario games, it loses a good bit of the charm in the levels. Even levels in the same galaxy don't feel like they're set in the same place.
I don't really like the New Super Mario Bros-esque form of level progression (you advance to the next galaxy by getting one star on the previous, until you reach an "X stars required" route block), because when you're not at one of those route blocks, you don't have as much a feeling of progression from doing older galaxies.
Also, I miss having a proper character like Rosalina. The Big Luma is just far too generic, motiveless, and doesn't feel like it has any sort of presence in the game.

So yeah, while SMG2 has better gameplay, it lost a lot of thecharm the original had. Overall, I'd really pitch it as precisely on par with SMG1.

None of these complaints seem very justified here tbh Plasma. You're saying the game shouldn't be seen as amazing because it is similar to the original (a game that is amazing). Which might have something to do with it being, you know... a sequel? I mean honestly what were you expecting here?

You are also complaining that the level design is too varied and well that's just plain silly. The level design is outstanding. No other platformer has even come close to such a level of variety.

And as for Big Luma, do you really play Mario games for character development?

One of the things I really really hate about sequels is that they nearly always make the older games seem horribly outdated and unvaried, to the point where you can't really have much fun playing them.
That might have something to do with the fact that sequels are generally speaking, better than the original and as such going back to the original will seem pale in comparison.

Oooooohhhh my gawd. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-scott-pilgrim/101185)
It's about time Paul Robertson got to animate an entire videogame and Scott Pilgrim is the absoloute best possible subject matter.

Not to mention it's a co-op sidescrolling beat-em-up, the best kind of multiplayer there is.

Oooooohhhh my gawd. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-scott-pilgrim/101185)
It's about time Paul Robertson got to animate an entire videogame and Scott Pilgrim is the absoloute best possible subject matter.

Not to mention it's a co-op sidescrolling beat-em-up, the best kind of multiplayer there is.

When I saw the first images of this game Paul Robertson was the first thing that came to mind. Then I looked it up and found out that it was indeed him responsible for the animations. I can't wait for this game.

Man, this game, which is based off of a movie, has a trailer making a huge focus on graphics with little focus on gameplay, and is by Ubisoft Montreal, is tooootally going to be awesome right?


You're saying the game shouldn't be seen as amazing because it is similar to the original (a game that is amazing). Which might have something to do with it being, you know... a sequel?
I don't mean that it's a bit similar, I mean that it feels like the same game but with different level layouts. And I don't mean having the levels far far better, I just mean the same level of uniqueness.

You are also complaining that the level design is too varied and well that's just plain silly. The level design is outstanding. No other platformer has even come close to such a level of variety.

And as for Big Luma, do you really play Mario games for character development?
I'm allowed to have an opinion on negative effects of level variance and lack of interesting characters compared to a game with very few already, yes. It's not like I should just censor my own opinion because it sounds silly on paper.

That might have something to do with the fact that sequels are generally speaking, better than the original and as such going back to the original will seem pale in comparison.
How observant of you.

Man, this game, which is based off of a movie, has a trailer making a huge focus on graphics with little focus on gameplay, and is by Ubisoft Montreal, is tooootally going to be awesome right?


Seriously? Did you even bother watching it? All that fighthing, hate to break it to you plasma, but that's gameplay. It's a 2d brawler, what else did you expect them to show? And Paul Robertson is involved. If he's involved, it's already awesome.

I don't really like the New Super Mario Bros-esque form of level progression (you advance to the next galaxy by getting one star on the previous, until you reach an "X stars required" route block), because when you're not at one of those route blocks, you don't have as much a feeling of progression from doing older galaxies.wait...so what you're whining about here is that you have to play each level in order to continue on with the game!? wtfh kind of complaint is that?! I sincerely hope I'm misunderstanding, cause the way I'm reading it you're just being a whiny douche.

also, that trailer? that is pure sex. I'm buying whatever it is the day it comes out. I'm also saving the video for animation reference to see how 2D animation is done the way it's supposed to be. cause holy crap, I love that man.

Goddamn trailers showing GRAPHICS.

Also Microsoft is baffling a room full of journalists right this second.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/14/natal-experience-things-were-hearing-round-the-net/

Natal is now officially 'Kinect'.

the entire audience has been decked out in luminous, colour changing electronic ponchos.

A family have been suspended in the air on a couch and also apparently in an upsidedown room?

There is an elephant.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3637/gvx0v.jpg
Bam there it is.


There's a ban on recording devices (the whole thing's being shown by MTV on tuesday for some reason) so pretty much half the audience is Twittering like mad.

Am I the only one that thinks Kinect is a really bad name?

Also, I loled:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8785/totilogoomba.png

Am I the only one that thinks Kinect is a really bad name?Wii .

Wii .

At least that one's short and rolls easily off the tongue.

Oooooohhhh my gawd. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-scott-pilgrim/101185)
It's about time Paul Robertson got to animate an entire videogame and Scott Pilgrim is the absoloute best possible subject matter.

Not to mention it's a co-op sidescrolling beat-em-up, the best kind of multiplayer there is.

Co-op side-scrolling beat 'em up... on PS3. Bye then, nice trailer though. :(

Seriously? Did you even bother watching it? All that fighthing, hate to break it to you plasma, but that's gameplay. It's a 2d brawler, what else did you expect them to show?
Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALt4yu1Njk8)
Unless you think it is going to be nothing but regular beat-em-upping. ...which is even worse.

wait...so what you're whining about here is that you have to play each level in order to continue on with the game!?
It's not that, it's that when you're not at those route blocks you don't get a full sense of that you're advancing in the game when you go back and do old galaxies. In the First, you could go back and do, say, a load of Prankster Comets at once, and you'd still be gradually unlocking levels. In the Second, the only way you can unlock levels up until blocks is by playing specific levels, and doing anything else feels like you're just spinning your wheels for a while. You don't get that sense of that you can play any of the levels in any order, which was one of the great things about 3D Mario games (minus Super Mario Sunshine).
Plus, if you do do the levels straight as they appear, it results in galaxies being unlocked in groups, rather than the gradual process of SMG1.

Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALt4yu1Njk8)
Unless you think it is going to be nothing but regular beat-em-upping. ...which is even worse.

What? What are you supposed to be saying with that? Viewtiful Joe is just beating things up - just with more flashes. The trailer shows that.

The trailer for Scott Pilgrim is plenty revealing on gameplay - sidescrolling action where stuff gets fixed by punching it.

I don't mean that it's a bit similar, I mean that it feels like the same game but with different level layouts. And I don't mean having the levels far far better, I just mean the same level of uniqueness.
It does have the same level of uniqueness possibly even more so than the original.

I'm allowed to have an opinion on negative effects of level variance and lack of interesting characters compared to a game with very few already, yes. It's not like I should just censor my own opinion because it sounds silly on paper.

You would be allowed to have an opinion on the negative effects of level variance if there were any. But there aren't, so your opinion doesn't simply sound silly on paper, it sounds silly in general.

How observant of you.
Just trying to explain it to you in easy terms, as it is something the entire world and his granny is already aware of.

It's not that, it's that when you're not at those route blocks you don't get a full sense of that you're advancing in the game when you go back and do old galaxies. In the First, you could go back and do, say, a load of Prankster Comets at once, and you'd still be gradually unlocking levels. In the Second, the only way you can unlock levels up until blocks is by playing specific levels, and doing anything else feels like you're just spinning your wheels for a while. You don't get that sense of that you can play any of the levels in any order, which was one of the great things about 3D Mario games (minus Super Mario Sunshine).
Plus, if you do do the levels straight as they appear, it results in galaxies being unlocked in groups, rather than the gradual process of SMG1. that's still an extremely minor and petty thing to complain about. I mean, aren't you going to play every level anyway? and if you're not, then why even BUY the game that was made specifically to use level design that went unused in the first?

Co-op side-scrolling beat 'em up... on PS3. Bye then, nice trailer though. :(
It's a PS3 timed exclusive. It'll be on XBLA a couple of weeks later. No word on a Wiiware release tho.

Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALt4yu1Njk8)
Unless you think it is going to be nothing but regular beat-em-upping. ...which is even worse.

I've never played Viewtiful Joe so I'm not sure what kind of a point you were trying to make there.
Was it the visual style?
Was it the complexity of the combat?
Was it the difficulty?
Was it the time altering powers?
Was it the fact that Viewtiful Joe is completely singleplayer?

It does have the same level of uniqueness possibly even more so than the original.



You would be allowed to have an opinion on the negative effects of level variance if there were any. But there aren't, so your opinion doesn't simply sound silly on paper, it sounds silly in general.


Just trying to explain it to you in easy terms, as it is something the entire world and his granny is already aware of.

I assume he's talking about the fact that each level is based on a WORLD and that WORLDS in general don't normally completely change layout every time you encounter the world. That would be like our moon changing flavor every time NASA takes a soil sample or does a moon landing D:

Super Mario 64, Sunshine and maybe Mario Galaxy 1 keep a reasonable amount of level layout consistency across levels within a world which helps make a world be believable.

I've never played Mario Galaxy 2 so no clue how varied levels within a world can be.

That would be an admirable complaint if it weren't for the fact that you roam across the entire GALAXY. Jumping seamlessly from planet to planet. It's not Super Mario World we're talking about here.

That's like complaining that Pluto doesn't look the same as Saturn.

Counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALt4yu1Njk8)
Unless you think it is going to be nothing but regular beat-em-upping. ...which is even worse.

Counter-counterpoint. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgapmGlNoA)

Oh right, I forgot. Microsot E3 conference was today. It was boring, nothing interesting was shown. Kinect still looks like crap, except maybe for the espn thing if you're a sports fan (but I seriously doubt that'll be available in my country). The new slim 360 launching this week was also interesting. Oh and they gave free new slim model xbox 360's to all attendants. WTH.

I've never played Viewtiful Joe so I'm not sure what kind of a point you were trying to make there.
Was it the visual style?
Was it the complexity of the combat?
Was it the difficulty?
Was it the time altering powers?
Was it the fact that Viewtiful Joe is completely singleplayer?

These.

Viewtiful Joe is much more interesting then it might appear. In order to get a good combo going (and to get a good rating), you need to manage your time powers properly. Going into zoomed-in slow-mo allows the most powerful attack in the game, but it eats up your power like nobody's business, and you need to stay in slow-mo (which still eats power, but at a slower rate) as long as possible to keep your combo going. You can dodge enemies' attacks to get them dizzy, which lets you launch them into other enemies, which lets you set up for even bigger things. Many games use time powers as a gimmick that adds no depth to the mechanics, but here the time powers are intertwined with the scoring system, and the scoring system is set up to give you points for playing the game properly. It's good stuff.

And on the higher difficulties, the game is just brutal. Enemy attacks are no longer telegraphed with the red skull icon, so you have to actually look at how the enemy is moving or listen to their voice to know whether to dodge up or down (two different ways to dodge, notice). On the highest difficulty you have to know how to dodge every attack that comes at you if you want to live, and god help you if you get surrounded while unable to use slow-mo, because you're practically dead at that point.

That trailer isn't a very good example of the game because it focuses on the flashy stuff and the clips look like they're being played on the lowest difficulty. The flashy stuff is pretty awesome, mind, but if you want to see a proper video, here's a decent fight against the hardest boss on the hardest difficulty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY6krB2NkNo

Also, it has FANTASTIC music. The OST is the first, and I believe only, thing I bothered importing from Japan and it was well worth it.

Scott Pilgrim footage

This honestly brings back bad memories. I played Castle Crashers with a full 4 players at my college's video game party event thing a while ago, and while it was quite fun, after hours and hours of running around smacking the same enemies (reskinned, but otherwise identical) with the same weapons using the same combos, it just got... dull. The only thing pushing us forward after a while was to see what environment or boss the game would throw at us next, not because the game was actually fun to play. My group pretty much trailed off one-by-one once we beat the ice king or whatever because it was just a chore at that point.

Now, as a little experiment, I'm going to go to YouTube and write down the total playtime of some Let's Plays of beat-em/shoot-em-ups. Note that this isn't especially scientific, since I'm not going to bother watching the videos and also note that these times are all approximations.

Captain Commando: 35 minutes
X-Men Arcade (6 players): 36 minutes
Metal Slug 2: 49 minutes
Final Fight 3: 70 minutes
TMNT: Turtles in Time: 78 minutes
Final Fight 2: 82 minutes
Alien Hominid: 118 minutes
Castle Crashers: 274 minutes

274 MINUTES. Seriously. That's over four frickin' hours. No wonder it got tiring, jeez. It doesn't look like some exhaustive lets play, either. It looks like they were just playing it straight. Note that there was another Let's Play that was only 121 minutes, but it was with only one player, and I'm guessing the game throws fewer enemies at one player than four, which would make the game quite a bit shorter. But even that one's two hours long, which is still too long for most beat-em-up to last, let alone FOUR! Captain Commando, one of the most well-regarded beat-em-ups ever? 35 minutes.

Look, I don't think every game needs to have insanely deep mechanics. Beat-em-ups are fun in part because they're so wonderfully simple, which is what makes playing co-op with a good friend so much fun. I liked Castle Crashers, but then it just went on for so long that it just became tedious. If they trimmed the game in half it would've been perfect, but no one has the guts to make a short game anymore.

Everyone makes games about three times longer than they should be nowadays, since they have this obsession with telling an epic story or making jokes and pop culture references, and if the game were the proper length they wouldn't be able to fit all of that stuff in. Maybe the Scott Pilgrim game will be different, and maybe the developers will make it last as long as it is entertaining and no more. I hope so, since it does look like it'd be decently fun for an hour or so, and if that's as long as it lasts, it'll be quite good.

The nerd culture stuff is a big turnoff for me, though, and I don't especially like Paul Robertson's work, so... yeah. Ho hum.

Honestly, though, I feel like I can't judge the Scott Pilgrim game based on that awful video. That thing is waaaayyy longer than it needed to be (seriously, do we need to see the exact same Guitar Hero scene twice? I know you're just making a montage of all the footage you picked up, but come on, do some damn editing, people.)

Aannnd without even trying, I've written an essay. What is wrong with me.

Ubisoft just announced Innergy. What is Innergy you ask? Remember last year when Nintendo announced the Vitality sensor? Same thing. Exact. Same. Thing. Except it connects and works with any computer apparently, maybe other consoles too, and it helps you reach "cardiac coherence". The segment they showed is you breathing in an out to the rythm of a weird thingie on the screen.

O_o

People need to stop shoving Sharper Image lifestyle junk into my vidya games.

Apparently, playing that game for 15 minutes a day boosts your inmune system.


edit: Ghost Recon Future Soldier looks awesome.

That said, so does Asassins Creed Brotherhood, shown earlier today.
Shaun White Skateboarding was also shown, and it's.... strange.

edit2: Project dust. Game by Eric Chahi. Looks pretty interesting. It's a digital download game.

Rayman is back! 2D sidescroller it seems, with 2d art. Rayman Origins. Looks fun, and really really stupid, but in the good way. He gets a large bird sidekick thing. They both do stupid things togheter.


edit3: They announce maniaplanet, by the creators of trackmania. User generated racers, fps's and rpg's.

Kinect still looks like crapit's an extremely neat interface for a TV. I imagine that before too long this sort of tech will show up in some TVs and/or DVD/BluRay players.

too bad the 360 is a gaming device.

it's an extremely neat interface for a TV. I imagine that before too long this sort of tech will show up in some TVs and/or DVD/BluRay players.

too bad the 360 is a gaming device.

Second that
Such a waste. And there's so many blind people going ape sh*t over this

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Aannnd without even trying, I've written an essay. What is wrong with me.
The thing is a deep, brutally difficult fighting system with time-manipulation doesn't exactly lend itself to a fun pick up and play multiplayer experience.

'I wish this game was more like this completely different sort of game' it's not a very good comparason.

The Castle Crasher's comparason is much more apt, but it's not really fair to Judge Scott pilgrim based on another game's issues.

Second that
Such a waste. And there's so many blind people going ape sh*t over thisreally?! why?! blind people can't play games anyway. I mean, largely they can't. I'm aware of the awesome Street Fighter guy.

but either way, they're blind. they're GOING to miss out on video games. it's kind of a requirement of their condition.

really?! why?! blind people can't play games anyway. I mean, largely they can't. I'm aware of the awesome Street Fighter guy.

but either way, they're blind. they're GOING to miss out on video games. it's kind of a requirement of their condition.

Don't know if you're serious, being sarcastic, or serious but will pretend to being sarcastic now

Hate to moan about yet ANOTHER thing here (although in fairness, now that I've played it a lot more, SMG2 is a lot more awesome than I thought), but
God
360 engineers
Ugh
How can you not make a console that suffers from some MASSIVE hardware failure?!
http://video.destructoid.com/#165121
How can you even think that is acceptable?


I'm hoping that it's actually a development issue they still need to fix. Emphasis on hoping.




In completely unrelated matters, NINTENDO'S E3 PRESENTATION IS GLORIOUS!
SO
MANY
GAMES I WANT!
RELEASING
THIS YEAR!


I have apparently resorted to one word lines today.





The Castle Crasher's comparason is much more apt, but it's not really fair to Judge Scott pilgrim based on another game's issues.
Well it sorta is, when the trailer for Scott Pilgrim gives the impression it's suffering the same issues.

(I'm sure someone is going to say "you shouldn't judge a game by the trailer" here and miss the point)

Don't know if you're serious, being sarcastic, or serious but will pretend to being sarcastic nowI'm being serious. a blind person can't realistically expect to play every game. why is the Kinect something special?

I'm being serious. a blind person can't realistically expect to play every game. why is the Kinect something special?

I didn't literally meant blind people

Oh the mirth.
Although blind people playing Kinetic would be a sight to behold.

Oh the mirth.
Although blind people playing Kinetic would be a sight to behold.D: no. bad.