It was my housemate's birthday so he threw a house party yesterday.

Not that that's bad in itself, but there was no end of mess, and drunk people really annoy me.

And do they have to squirt my shaving foam everywhere and stick loo rolls down the toilet?

NEAO passes 2000 posts.

Although I guess that can't exactly be called a good thing.

Especially when PEaO is only at 1890...

NEAO passes 2000 posts.

Although I guess that can't exactly be called a good thing.
top posters:

Zero72 201
SupSuper 169
AndrewTaylor 158
FutureWorm 130
Paul.Power 110
Star Worms 107
Squirminator2k 106
MtlAngelus 95
MonkeyforaHead 74
Slick 73
worMatty 73
Pigbuster 66
bonz 64
thomasp 53
SomePerson 44
K^2 41
SargeMcCluck 36
Blinx 36
Xinos 35
Kjatte 34
FatWhitey 34
philby4000 31
Newt X 27
Run 25
UnKnown X 24
OldSkoolCrazy 24
Vader 24
Pickleworm 20
Lex 15
BetongÅsna 13
Akuryou13 11
MrBunsy 8
KamikazeBananze 7
Test Zero 6
Worm Mad 6
Traxada 4
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top posters:

Zero72 201
SupSuper 169
AndrewTaylor 158
FutureWorm 130
Paul.Power 110
...Didn't think I'd be so high up the list.

But then, I've always liked posting in threads regardless of topic.

pessimism ftw :cool:

I oddly seem to have posted more in PEAO than in NEAO.

pessimism ftw :cool:I think that brings a new meaning to the phrase "contradiction in terms" :p.

The power adapter for my laptop is ailing. Like I have to wiggle it and make sure it's just right or it's not connected to the wall. And it's getting worse. I think it might be under warranty, but I can't send it away because I don't want to spend like a week without being able to use my laptop. I have a soldering iron, and I bet I could fix it here. but that would void the warranty.......

It seems to be broken at the plug part, as in where it plugs into the computer.

Talk to your vendor or manufacturer, they might have a courier swap-out policy for PSUs. If you need your laptop for the week or more that you'll be waiting for a replacement, then either you buy a replacement from a store, which is expensive, or find a supplier of replacement DC jacks.

Ever take a good look at the world around you, the people you know, and where everything is heading?

I'm losing my will to live. :)

update: There's a place where I can get it replaced under warranty like instantly, assuming they have the adapter in stock. But it's all the way in Beverly Hills, which is pretty dang far away...

Ever take a good look at the world around you, the people you know, and where everything is heading?

I'm losing my will to live. :)

There may be a lot of **** in the world today, but there's a lot of good too.

So don't lose all your hope in humanity, please. :p

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Zero72 201Fantastic. I should've guessed.

I got out of work at 2:20 today. I'm supposed to get out about 12:00 or 12:30.

Not allowed out to a party.

That all my friends are going too.

I'm turning into a hermit.

i was rollerblading across the street, forgot to look both ways, and almost got hit by a car (though it was traveling at low speed)

the strange thing is that the guy in the van honked at me not before almost hitting me, but after he had slowed down and i had gotten out of the way of the vehicle

i was rollerblading

Oh man i'm sorry, that's terrible:(

the strange thing is that the guy in the van honked at me not before almost hitting me, but after he had slowed down and i had gotten out of the way of the vehicleMany people think it exists as a substitute for swearing.

Yeah, he was probably venting his displeasure at you after it was over, to teach you a lesson.

I'm NOT in the Crysis beta...well, I've got the key and the download, it just doesn't work......not sure why. it just doesn't install/launch right. I'm not given any errors or anything, just doesn't work.

So, I have to basically show some one who shall rename nameless, who basically took my job as Second Shift Manager, how to close tonight. Guess what. She set off the alarm when we left. Then I tried it, and it still went off. Then a third time. Turns out, when ever you lock the second door, the alarm would just 'go off' for whatever reason. Doesn't matter how quick we did it, it just wouldn't work. So, after talking to the dispatcher who was about to call the police, I had to call the headquarters of some place. I don't know where, I'm tiered, frustrated, and I really don't give a sh!t anymore by now. So I call there, and get someone over in India.


...India. :|

Anyways, back to the story. So turns out the alarm re-sets itself after a few minutes. So basically, we just set the alarm, locked both doors, thereby setting off the alarm...and just walked away. :)
I'm not so sure what I did was the right thing, but I really don't give a sh!t anymore. Really. I don't. They promote me, just to demote me, put someone who I personally have a hard time not screaming at, in charge of me; and to top it all off I have to give someone a ride to work for a little bit because they're car broke down. Not that I have to do it, but unlike life... I'm not a complete dick.

Really. I think I'm going to just quit life. I don't care what you all say or think. I'm just ****ing sick of this. To quote Zeor, "You really are the most unluckiest person I ever met. Ever."

*throws pity party, only to not invite himself and feel worse*

YAY!http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/nopity.gif

So what's the negative event there?

Matty needs Percepto-beans, badly!

Maybe it doesn't seem that much of a problem because I've had very similar experiences to that a few times over the years. Oh, the stories. Once the back fire door flew open due to a powerful gust of wind and ripped the reed switches out. We couldn't leave the building until the ADT engineer fixed those and our door maintenance contractors came to secure the door. Another time a power brownout tripped the anti-tamper alarm in the control panel, which called out the police. Another time, after a routine check, the alarm engineer left his diary behind, which contained lots of master entry codes to other businesses. I probably shouldn't tell you that though.

Basically, it's just life sh!t, which I don't bother blogging about because I hold no significance in it apart from the notion that some of my colleagues are idiots, which is self-satisfying.

So what's the negative event there?

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You got beat up by a cop with a bat and bit off the tip of your tongue?

Today I'll share with you all a horrible horrible secret.


I'm gay.I like catgirls.


That is all.

So I have a funeral to go to this weekend.

On Sunday a friend of the family here in the US died after a long battle with cancer. It's quite distressing when you learn that two years ago she was in fact declared Cancer-Free. I saw her when Amy and I went to visit my Dad and she looked quite healthy and happy. Not so much when I moved over - the cancer had spread to her spine, had caused her brain to swell and, as we learnt three weeks ago, had pretty much destroyed her liver.

And now she's gone.

She's been a long-time friend of my Dad and Stepmom. They've known her for years and they've been hit quite hard with the loss. Me, though? I've spent maybe less than twenty-four hours total in her company. She was a marvelous, kind-hearted person who even considering her illness never seemed to be without a smile on her face. I didn't get to know her very well and yet I was hit quite hard with the loss.

The truth is that I don't cope with death well. At all. Ever. My mind has difficulty with the concept that people can simply cease to exist. It's times like these that I can find it quite easy to turn to some kind of spiritual, religious thing and say "Well, it's alright really, because she's in Heaven, or Mecca, or Rainbow Island or wherever." I want her to still exist somewhere. But the truth is that she's gone. She's gone, and we'll never see her again. My mind can't process that.

I've only been to three funerals in my entire life. The first was the funeral for a friend's mother, who died four years ago when said friend was only 16. I don't recall whether or not she cried at her mother's funeral, but I did. I fell apart. I crumbled apart like the first biscuit in a packet of Digestives.

Gone! Such things should not even be possible. How does that even work?! The concept is so alien to me and yet death happens every day. We see it on television and in movies, in books and poems and in art. We see it when we walk past graveyards and funeral parlours. We hear about it from friends, and colleagues, and family members. Death is a part of life, and yet I struggle to factor it into my understanding of the Way The World Works.

I don't know if I can do this funeral. I suspect I can't. I imagine I will collapse under the weight of my own feeling of loss while others who have known her longer, who are more entitled to their grief, stand composed and accepting. But I know I have to go, because I need to be there for my Dad and Stepmom if nothing else. They need me to prop them up right now. I'm doing the best I can.

Apologies for... well, for emoness.

Sorry to hear about that. Its hard, I know. Like that girl that I knew for years that just died recently... I mean.. I still have her on my AIM list. But yet shes gone.
Not much I can say to ease the pain of loss...but I could give you some stuff to think about, but I'm not to sure you are a religious person...but PM me if you want to know.


Apologies for... well, for emoness.

Never apologize for acting like a human being.

The truth is that I don't cope with death well. At all. Ever. My mind has difficulty with the concept that people can simply cease to exist. It's times like these that I can find it quite easy to turn to some kind of spiritual, religious thing and say "Well, it's alright really, because she's in Heaven, or Mecca, or Rainbow Island or wherever." I want her to still exist somewhere. But the truth is that she's gone. She's gone, and we'll never see her again. My mind can't process that.

I'm not sure if this will help, but I guess a humanist approach would be "A person's not dead while their name's still spoken". So... something, I guess.

Also, :(

business 2.0, a really awesome magazine, is ceasing publication

So I have a funeral to go to this weekend.

...

You have my deepest condolences.

When I was 10 or so I had something near a mental breakdown. I was terrified by the concept of nothing after death, that all that awaits is an empty void.
I've since come to develop my own philosophy about death and life and beyond, but it's still developing and it's too complex for me to type right now. That idea's probably what keeps me from breaking down again.
All that thinking about death kinda desensitized me to it, so it doesn't hit me as hard as it used to.
It still makes me get emotionally drained, though.

Apologies for... well, for emoness.

Emo people cause heaps of drama over absolutely nothing and they do it solely for attention. You aren't being like one at all, because you genuinely feel that way. You don't need to apologize for that.

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I remember that not too long ago me and my parents were in the car, and we came out of an exit quickly and we had to brake really fast because traffic was backed up. It was a bit of a panicky moment, but that has happened a number of times, and it wasn't that dangerous.
But then, I saw the reason for the backed-up traffic, which was a car that was flipped totally upside-down, and it looked pretty bad. Then, a bit later, I saw an ambulance driving toward the accident.
For some reason that made me break down.
I worry that I am just penting up my depression only to have it get triggered by events like this. I hope not...

I'm sorry, Ben. I know how you feel. I don't deal well with death in any way at all. Some of you may remember my reaction to my first betta who only lived a few days.

Then, on the other hand, I don't know exactly how you feel, because I've never actually been to a funeral and never yet had to deal with the death of anyone actually all that close to me.

The idea terrifies me.

My aunt is heading in the same direction.
And heck, I've only visited her like 3 times since things got this bad.
Is it wrong for me not to care?

My deepest sympathies, Ben. Having lost someone really close as well, I know exactly how it feels. It sucks. :(

Hopefully they'll all go to a better place.

Sorry to hear that. Don't really know what else to say. Do try and stay at least a bit together.

I'm sorry, Ben. I know how you feel. I don't deal well with death in any way at all. Some of you may remember my reaction to my first betta who only lived a few days.

Then, on the other hand, I don't know exactly how you feel, because I've never actually been to a funeral and never yet had to deal with the death of anyone actually all that close to me.

The idea terrifies me.

I've been to exactly one, since I was old enough to really know where I was. I can see how religion would be more tempting after a death, but oddly enough that was what finally put me off it.

It was my Grandma's, and to be honest her death hardly hit me at all, mostly because she'd been so ill for so long that we'd all accepted it long before it happened, which makes it a whole lot easier. But the funeral really annoyed me, because it kept banging on about the sure and certain hope of resurrection -- we were all well into stage five and here was some priest trying to pull us back to Denial.

That was the day I gave up on the Catholic church, and I've never looked back. I really don't think that that's the legacy she'd have wanted to have left me, but that's okay because I don't believe she'll ever find out.

Is it wrong for me not to care?death is a part of the world. you have to accept that. if you mourn everyone who ever dies when you'll never have a happy day in your life. the only people a person can be expected to mourn are those who the person is especially close to. that's just how things are. it's not insensitive to not particularly care about a person you know who died, just as long as you're not doing this number:
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the only people a person can be expected to mourn are those who the person is especially close to.
Thing is, she is quite close. She lives only a block away, I've visited her countless times since I was born up until a couple of years ago when I stopped being the owner of my free time, and about a year or two ago I even used to work for her at the business she and other two of my aunts run.
Not to mention she has supported me and my family a lot(economically), along with my grandfather and my other aunts.
Yet I can't bring myself to care much, not can I bring myself to visit her even if it would probably cheer her up. I feel a bit like an asshole... but going there is really awful. She pretty much gave up quite a while ago even tho she still had quite a chance, and now she just spends most of the time lying down on bed or in a couch, and refuses to even try to excersize a bit or just do... well anything. She's just there waiting to die I guess. I'm also really not the person who can offer support with this type of thing, if anything I can only make things worse... I also seriously don't want to be anywhere near this city when she dies, because I'll feel incredibly ackward at the funeral being the only one not crying in the whole family. :-/

Don't worry about it. You shouldn't judge yourself or what other people think of you by how much you appear to be upset. It's none of their business. If you don't care, that doesn't make you heartless, it just means you never had the kind of relationship that would make you care. My grandad died two years ago or so, and me and my bro even got mentioned by the guy during the speech, but we didn't give a toss. We were just there to save relatives saying "They're heartless *******s 'cause they didn't turn up to their own grandad's funeral!" We just didn't like him.

Thing is, she is quite close. She lives only a block away, I've visited her countless times since I was born up until a couple of years ago when I stopped being the owner of my free time, and about a year or two ago I even used to work for her at the business she and other two of my aunts run.
Not to mention she has supported me and my family a lot(economically), along with my grandfather and my other aunts.
Yet I can't bring myself to care much, not can I bring myself to visit her even if it would probably cheer her up. I feel a bit like an asshole... but going there is really awful. She pretty much gave up quite a while ago even tho she still had quite a chance, and now she just spends most of the time lying down on bed or in a couch, and refuses to even try to excersize a bit or just do... well anything. She's just there waiting to die I guess. I'm also really not the person who can offer support with this type of thing, if anything I can only make things worse... I also seriously don't want to be anywhere near this city when she dies, because I'll feel incredibly ackward at the funeral being the only one not crying in the whole family. :-/well, seeing someone and feeling attachment to them are two completely different things. besides, if she's given up on life then being around her would be depressing and unpleasant. who would want THAT?! seriously, if she gave up on life, it's no fault of yours if she's depressing to be around.

She just died.
In the end I do feel bad/sad for not having visited her one last time.

She just died.
In the end I do feel bad/sad for not having visited her one last time.just don't let it weigh you down. I'm sure she would understand if she were in your shoes.

I can relate entirely, Angelus. I had two opportunities to see our friend before she died, and I didn't go. I couldn't. Now I'll never see her again. If you ever want to chat, just drop me a line.

Meanwhile, please read [this blog entry (http://www.benpaddon.co.uk/2007/10/09/angry/)] and try to understand how f**king angry I am at the moment. Luton really is a completely and utter sh*thole, and I would approve if it were to be wiped off of the face of the planet, so long as the friends and family I have there were given advance warning and left beforehand.

...Hell. That has nothing to do with me, and makes me insanely angry.

Wow. That sucks. Idiots.
I hope that they see justice for that.
How old were they, by the way?

If you worry about appearing prejudiced, then don't bring up their religion. You don't really need to say that they came out of a mosque. Just say what they did. What they did is the real crime here, not that they were Muslim.
If you never bring it up, then no one can play the "YOU'RE RACIST" card because you were never talking about that.

Wow. That sucks. Idiots.
I hope that they see justice for that.
How old were they, by the way?

If you worry about appearing prejudiced, then don't bring up their religion. You don't really need to say that they came out of a mosque. Just say what they did. What they did is the real crime here, not that they were Muslim.yeah, I can just about imagine the media claiming that muslims are taught to throw bricks at people in their holy books.

people like those kids make me sick. it should be enough in life to be able to live peacefully, doing whatever it is you wish to do with your life. if you want to work hard and earn an honest living with your hands and sweat, you should be allowed to do so in peace. if you wish to live your life devoted to a deity of your choice, you should be allowed to do so without ridicule, and if you want to walk down the damn street with friends, being assaulted should be the LAST thing on your mind.

I'd ask what's the world coming to, but sick ****s like those kids have been around throughout history. so I ask, what the hell is wrong with us?! monkeys don't go around bludgeoning things with coconuts just to laugh at their misery. I don't see lions roaming around chewing on the legs of other creatures just to laugh as they slowly hobble away....

We rationalize violence. That's our problem.

If you worry about appearing prejudiced, then don't bring up their religion. You don't really need to say that they came out of a mosque. Just say what they did. What they did is the real crime here, not that they were Muslim.
If you never bring it up, then no one can play the "YOU'RE RACIST" card because you were never talking about that.

I don't understand this advice. What is it for? Who would call Ben a racist? Partly because Islam is not a race, but mostly because it's relevant -- they'd just come out of a Mosque, a place that purports to teach peace but that has a reputation for teaching violence and hatred and they immediately started being violent, the police treat it as a racial attack, and bottom line, what's the use in having a blog if you lie about your feelings on it?

You should never hold back on saying something because it might offend irrational people. Irrational people should be ignored until they go away, or until they start hurling masonry at which point they should be imprisoned.

And who's playing cards? Do you think perhaps the kids will be brought before a judge and say "ah, but thousands of miles away her brother said something that could be construed as anti-Muslim afterwards"?

Regardless of just how stupid a question is to ask, I still find myself pondering: Why can't we all just get along? How chuffing difficult is that, eh? I don't care, personally, what your beliefs are (so long as you don't try to convert me), or what colour your skin is, or what gender you are or your sexual preferences. When you get right down to it, we're all people. We're exactly the same. What the f**k is wrong with people?!

We're not all the same: some of use are ****ing mental. Some of them are just messed up and should be helped. Others are irreparably so and should be kept comfortable but isolated. Yet others are just evil *******s who should die. Problem is that there's no reliable way yo tell them apart.

The law of Ironic Punishments suggests quite strongly that anyone who throws bricks at someone for religious reasons should be stoned to death.

I've thought that many times, Ben. I have a phrase I tell myself when I find myself prejudging people because of whatever: "We're all human beings."

Prejudice is still useful. It aids you in determining threats. It's up to you how to react then.

I've thought that many times, Ben. I have a phrase I tell myself when I find myself prejudging people because of whatever: "We're all human beings."

Prejudice is still useful. It aids you in determining threats. It's up to you how to react then.
i'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but i'm pretty sure that ben's sister took a brick to the head because the people who targeted her were idiots, not because they were muslims

Not that I'm trying to start a debate here, but there is a history in Luton of teenage Muslim lads physically assaulting white people. Perhaps my view is a little skewed as I was assaulted twice by a group of Asian lads about five or six years ago. I knew a lot of Muslims when I worked at NTL who admitted openly that they used to go around attacking white people, but they've since cleaned up their act and I've made a few friends out of these people who used to go around attacking people like me. Everyone deserves a second chance, and I won't hold peoples' past against them, especially if they seem to be a good person in the here and now.

Luton though... it just brings out the worst in people.

i'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but i'm pretty sure that ben's sister took a brick to the head because the people who targeted her were idiots, not because they were muslims

Is it wrong that my first thought was "same difference"?

I generally hate being single.

Is it wrong that my first thought was "same difference"?
well it's kind of xenophobic i guess

well it's kind of xenophobic i guess

I think people who choose to associate with a group called "submission", with a history of violence and a recent one at that, whose system of laws is brutal and frankly insane, and which bases all of this on what some guy said was the word of God so long ago that nobody can quite agree what he said, is an idiot. How is that xenophobic?

I think people who choose to associate with a group called "submission", with a history of violence and a recent one at that, whose system of laws is brutal and frankly insane, and which bases all of this on what some guy said was the word of God so long ago that nobody can quite agree what he said, is an idiot. How is that xenophobic?you've just described every religion on the planet, other than paganism, I believe....

Not that I'm trying to start a debate here, but there is a history in Luton of teenage Muslim lads physically assaulting white people. Perhaps my view is a little skewed as I was assaulted twice by a group of Asian lads about five or six years ago. I knew a lot of Muslims when I worked at NTL who admitted openly that they used to go around attacking white people, but they've since cleaned up their act and I've made a few friends out of these people who used to go around attacking people like me. Everyone deserves a second chance, and I won't hold peoples' past against them, especially if they seem to be a good person in the here and now.

Luton though... it just brings out the worst in people.

That's really messed up, is there any reason for it or is Luton just a really scummy city?

I don't understand this advice. What is it for? Who would call Ben a racist? Partly because Islam is not a race, but mostly because it's relevant -- they'd just come out of a Mosque, a place that purports to teach peace but that has a reputation for teaching violence and hatred and they immediately started being violent, the police treat it as a racial attack, and bottom line, what's the use in having a blog if you lie about your feelings on it?

You should never hold back on saying something because it might offend irrational people. Irrational people should be ignored until they go away, or until they start hurling masonry at which point they should be imprisoned.

And who's playing cards? Do you think perhaps the kids will be brought before a judge and say "ah, but thousands of miles away her brother said something that could be construed as anti-Muslim afterwards"?

The fact that they came out a mosque isn't necessarily relevant. We don't actually know if it was a hate crime yet, and before we know if it is, it is unnecessary to stress those details.
Ben is dealing with the situation just fine right now. He just wants justice, and he doesn't really care about the details. "Some people did this" perfectly shows his opinion on this.
However, if he had added that detail and said "Some Muslims did this", then the stress is on the detail. It would make it seem like Ben is pointing immediately at their religion being a cause of the attack, i.e., appearing prejudiced.

I wasn't telling him to do this so he wouldn't "offend irrational people". He was clearly wondering how to process the events and explain them to others without racist overtones.

If he was giving a very detailed description of everything that happened, then he could say they came out of a mosque because it's just another one of the details.
However, a simplified explanation is just meant to go over the essential details. By adding "Muslim", he is saying that that detail is essential to the explanation. It would make him seem prejudiced.


I think people who choose to associate with a group called "submission", with a history of violence and a recent one at that, whose system of laws is brutal and frankly insane, and which bases all of this on what some guy said was the word of God so long ago that nobody can quite agree what he said, is an idiot. How is that xenophobic?
You do realize that there are very many good-natured, non-violent Muslims, I hope?
Those Muslims aren't going to change their entire religion just because some would associate them with crazy, violent people.

The fact that the good religious people are sane and nice should be more than enough to separate them from the bad. They're only associating themselves with the crazy violent people if they themselves are crazy and violent.
They AREN'T associating themselves with those people, the prejudiced are associating them with those people.
The prejudiced are throwing all Muslims in the same boat, even though the religion is the only thing they all share.
It's not their fault for believing what they want to believe.

That's really messed up, is there any reason for it or is Luton just a really scummy city?

Both .

I think people who choose to associate with a group called "submission", with a history of violence and a recent one at that, whose system of laws is brutal and frankly insane, and which bases all of this on what some guy said was the word of God so long ago that nobody can quite agree what he said, is an idiot. How is that xenophobic?

Come fúcking on. Unless you fall in with the Dawkins "all religion is evil" crowd, you have to admit that there is some sort of benefit to religion. And even if you won't concede that point, you at least have to admit that there are plenty of non-violent Muslims, just like there are non-violent Christians, Jews, and whatever else you want to throw in there.

The violence that you mention is primarily due to Middle Eastern culture. That's also influenced how they interpret the Qu'ran, and sadly a lot of people fall into that militant reading of it. But I know personally great people who are also Muslims and not violent in the least, so think out what you're saying before your next knee-jerk reaction and stop trying to throw 1.3 billion people into your preconceived little box.

I feel like my climb out of the pit of emo was a fairly valiant, if somewhat explosive and overdue, one, but I've been pretty depressive again lately. I just feel more than ever like my hellhole job has me pinned down without escape and I'm too worthless of a human being to do something about it. That and the same old "wah i want a grl" bull**** every emo nerd on the internet keeps grinding on about. Same old story, then.

I enjoyed being optimistic for a little while. I don't want to slide back down the goddamn emo ramp again, but it's just happening automatically. It sucks. I'm upset at being upset.

Consider this to be cheating on my "No Internet *****ing" diet.

Oddly enough, I haven't been depressed lately. Just very unmotivated. Nothing seems to excite or entertain anymore, and I find myself not wanting to do anything every day because there's no incentive and it all feels so mundane and boring.

Justin, it's okay to be unhappy, you're not exactly doing a job you enjoy. You can't deny it's getting you down, that won't fix anything. You're going to have to pull out your finger and find yourself a better job, and if you feel like you can't do it, get your mum and/or dad involved, or reliable friend or relative. They'll help you pull yourself together. It's a lot easier to sort yourself out when you're sitting on top of things.

Dan, GTFO the internet. Simple as :)

Oh, for heaven's sake...

This is exactly the problem with religion (well, one of them) -- I say one harsh word about it and everyone explodes. Can we just look at what I actually said for a moment? Okay, here's the first post:

i'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but i'm pretty sure that ben's sister took a brick to the head because the people who targeted her were idiots, not because they were muslimsIs it wrong that my first thought was "same difference"?

Did anyone criticise FutureWorm for calling all idiots crazy and violent? There are a lot more than 1.3 billion idiots in the world. Did anyone think he was generalising? No they did not. Clearly everyone understood that he meant "the violent kind of idiot" whereas nobody considered I might mean "the violent kind of Muslim". Why might that be? Anyone?

And what was the specific criticism of me?
well it's kind of xenophobic i guess
Well, no, it isn't xenophobic. Even if you read my post to mean "all Muslims are idiots" it wouldn't be xenophobic. It would be xenophobic if I said all black people were idiots, or all French people were idiots or something, but I picked a religious group. It's a group defined by a particular shared delusion -- I actually think it's fair game to casually equate a particular delusion with idiocy. If any of you disagree with that assessment then I'd love to know why.



And, purely for the record,Come fúcking on. Unless you fall in with the Dawkins "all religion is evil" crowd--
Well, I do. I think that religion causes massive, massive problems and offers no real benefit to society. It offers some people comfort but frankly I don't think it's an emotionally healthy way of dealing with problems and will very probably lead to more problems down the line. Some people do good things in its name but I think they would have done most of those things anyway, and even if they didn't other people might have done good things who instead wasted their lives trying to spread the made-up word. I've seen religion screw up my friends' lives and make them quite incredibly miserable. I hate the way that people are happy to defend religion on the tiny amount of good it does but object when someone criticises it for the massive amounts of damage it does just because not all its followers actively partake in that damage. They lend it credibility by their numbers, and that's bad enough for me. Take the utterly passive religious person. They vaguely believe, although they've never put any thought into it; they never do any good because of their religion; they never do any bad because of their religion. They do nothing at all in the name of their religion except perhaps dress funny and pray to themselves on occasion. All they do, to any external observer, is identify themselves as a member of that religion. So what's the overall impact of their religiosity on the world?

It lends credence to a lot of stupid and dangerous ideas. I think that's a bad thing.

ok before this starts into a flamewar; in other non-religious news...

I'm freaking stressed. haven't slept (well) for 3 days.
http://wormthingy.deviantart.com/journal/14970880/

Oh, for heaven's sake...

kinda funny that you kicked off your post with this

honestly, i could write a lot in response to that, but i find debating on the internet kind of useless and i'd rather stay on good terms so let's just agree to disagree on this

Debating on the Internet isn't any different from debating anywhere else, really. It's just you're more likely to find Morons online.

Oddly enough, I haven't been depressed lately. Just very unmotivated. Nothing seems to excite or entertain anymore, and I find myself not wanting to do anything every day because there's no incentive and it all feels so mundane and boring.

Welcome to my general world for the past 2-3 years.

Zero says:
Tonight sucked on such an emormous, black-hole-esque level, I was so very, very completely stressed out in every way, that I feel physically ill
Zero says:
Did not improve my already faltering mood as of late

The people who own my favorite cabin/lodge/camping... place... is selling their cabins next year. :(
They probably have a good reason, as they're very nice people, so they wouldn't be doing this to CRUSH CHILDREN'S HAPPINESS HAHAHA

The lodge beneath their house will stay around, though, so not all hope is lost.

I want to kill myself.

I've had enough. I just can't get over her. No matter how I try.
There's no one to help me.
I can't hate her, I never ever could. We're amazing friends.
I just.
Miss her.

I want to kill myself.

I've had enough. I just can't get over her. No matter how I try.
There's no one to help me.
I can't hate her, I never ever could. We're amazing friends.
I just.
Miss her. time heals all wounds and what-not. just give it a while. a few years of need be. you'll get over her eventually.

if it's too hard to get over with while you're still friends, then slowly try to seperate yourself from her. that might make it significantly easier.

There is no girl on this earth worth taking your own life over. Particularly at such a young age.

The whole suicidal thing isn't a great idea...

I want to kill myself.

I've had enough. I just can't get over her. No matter how I try.
There's no one to help me.
I can't hate her, I never ever could. We're amazing friends.
I just.
Miss her.

I think one of the worst things you can do, and what my biggest problem was, is to tell yourself things like that. I think actually I'd been getting ready to move on, but then I like had it so set in my mind that I was so crazy for her that I remained so. It wasn't so much that I couldn't move on as that I didn't want to. And it took me for someone else to make me want to move on before I realized that.

One of the reasons I announced in the Positive thread that I was over Katie was to finalize the transition. Announcing it on the place where I had so much whined over her helped me finalize in my mind that I was done, and put it all behind me.

If I can do it anyone can.;):p:rolleyes:

The whole suicidal thing isn't a great idea...



I think one of the worst things you can do, and what my biggest problem was, is to tell yourself things like that. I think actually I'd been getting ready to move on, but then I like had it so set in my mind that I was so crazy for her that I remained so. It wasn't so much that I couldn't move on as that I didn't want to. And it took me for someone else to make me want to move on before I realized that.

One of the reasons I announced in the Positive thread that I was over Katie was to finalize the transition. Announcing it on the place where I had so much whined over her helped me finalize in my mind that I was done, and put it all behind me.

If I can do it anyone can.;):p:rolleyes:I was more trying to give helpful encouragement that time. I've not actually BEEN in that situation, as I got lucky, but I'm rather sympathetic since most of my friends have been in similar situations, so I was just trying the encouragement thing. apparently I failed :p

I was more trying to give helpful encouragement that time. I've not actually BEEN in that situation, as I got lucky, but I'm rather sympathetic since most of my friends have been in similar situations, so I was just trying the encouragement thing. apparently I failed :p

Whoops, mis-quote.:( I meant "telling yourself stuff like that" in reference to Blinx's "I can't get over here." Not in reference to your advice.

I'll fix that now...

Everyone's right. If you kill yourself now, you'll look back on it and feel really stupid.

Everyone's right. If you kill yourself now, you'll look back on it and feel really stupid.
Why does that sound like something Homer Simpson might say? ;)

(no offence intended, Ben!!!)

The whole suicidal thing isn't a great idea...
I think one of the worst things you can do, and what my biggest problem was, is to tell yourself things like that. I think actually I'd been getting ready to move on, but then I like had it so set in my mind that I was so crazy for her that I remained so. It wasn't so much that I couldn't move on as that I didn't want to. And it took me for someone else to make me want to move on before I realized that.

One of the reasons I announced in the Positive thread that I was over Katie was to finalize the transition. Announcing it on the place where I had so much whined over her helped me finalize in my mind that I was done, and put it all behind me.

If I can do it anyone can.;):p:rolleyes: Hmm yeah. I'm just... still pretty tied up in the past with her, there's no way of escaping. It's the same group of friends. I have to hang around and see her with her boyfriend. Ack. That guy irritates me to no-end.

I went to a party last. It was pretty boring. Only real highlight was when this girl I quite like, was asked who she'd go out with in the room, (not that she actually wants too, but had too), she said either myself or my other good friend. And my other good friend is shy, and wouldn't do anything.
I also lifted her up in a strange position, was quite fun. lol XD And I kissed her on the cheek and got an "oooh" and then a kiss back. whoop.

Alright, I'm officially taking Blinx off the OD suicide watch list.

Perspective is important. My first thought on reading "I want to kill myself. I've had enough. I just can't get over her no matter how I try" was that you should tone it down because you're 16 and it can't possibly be that bad. I refrained from posting it because it seemed insensitive, then 12 hours later -- twelve hours -- you post "I kissed [this girl I quite like] on the cheek and got an "oooh" and then a kiss back. whoop". Those are not the words of a man who cannot get over someone. Those are the words of a man halfway to a healthy rebound.

Assuming you live a relatively normal life, you have more relationships (better, worse, longer, shorter) and breakups, weddings, deaths, births and (if so) all the little events in your children's lives that become big events in yours. You can't react this way because you'll go mental if you do. If you genuinely feel like you want to kill yourself over this girl, you have to talk to someone far more qualified than an videogames forum.

you have to talk to someone far more qualified than an videogames forum. but, as you said, I think we can safely assume he was just down and needed to vent somewhere about it. that IS something we're here for, so I guess it all works.

and blinx. don't let the old wound stop you from exploring waters (and other things :p) with the new girl. you sound like you're willing and able to have a good time, and that's what you should do. so go have fun :D

Alright, I'm officially taking Blinx off the OD suicide watch list.

Perspective is important. My first thought on reading "I want to kill myself. I've had enough. I just can't get over her no matter how I try" was that you should tone it down because you're 16 and it can't possibly be that bad. I refrained from posting it because it seemed insensitive, then 12 hours later -- twelve hours -- you post "I kissed [this girl I quite like] on the cheek and got an "oooh" and then a kiss back. whoop". Those are not the words of a man who cannot get over someone. Those are the words of a man halfway to a healthy rebound.

Assuming you live a relatively normal life, you have more relationships (better, worse, longer, shorter) and breakups, weddings, deaths, births and (if so) all the little events in your children's lives that become big events in yours. You can't react this way because you'll go mental if you do. If you genuinely feel like you want to kill yourself over this girl, you have to talk to someone far more qualified than an videogames forum.Hmm yeah. Definatley. I agree. I overreacted. It's just been six months (long time I know, but alot of stuff has happened, it's technically two months since she's stopped fooling me around), and with the added fact that I left her for a girl that rejected me, kinda...got me down. But, it isn't worth the bother.
Hmmm. On the rebound. I have no idea. I'm certainly willing to "play the field", to find a new girlfriend, but I'm not sure, the girl I kissed, we've been friends for a very long time, we even went out (unsuccsessfully) three years ago. But that was mainly cos we were immature, (she was :p, she dumped me for a "bad guy", teenage girls = strange creatures). I don't think she sees me in that light.

but, as you said, I think we can safely assume he was just down and needed to vent somewhere about it. that IS something we're here for, so I guess it all works.

and blinx. don't let the old wound stop you from exploring waters (and other things ) with the new girl. you sound like you're willing and able to have a good time, and that's what you should do. so go have fun

:) Aye. I was venting really. Sorry, I didn't mean to scare anybody. I just get that way sometimes. As does everybody I suppose. I've know you guys for along time, and your intelligent adults and you've experienced alot more than I have, so you are...mentors. :p lol

Hmmm. We shall see. I have to play it carefully. Her ex-boyfriend, has really put her off having boyfriends, by being an utter tit and messing her around. Plus, he is a good friend...so...hmm. And the added fact that I don't actually know if she likes me like that.
Y'know, what is a kiss on the cheek? It isn't the first time it happened. Last party she had, I felt like ****, and wanted to go to sleep, so I went upstaries and slept in her parents bed (they were away, don't worry lol), and she came into say good night, and basically, mounted me almost. XD We hugged, and I kissed her on the cheek and she kissed me.
I was extremely tempted to kiss her on the lips.
But that would have led to A Great Deal Of Bother. :/

I don't like over-thinking love. Sure you might **** it up very easily somewhere down the line but you'll just end up back where you started, so it's not like you can't just find someone else and try again, and you'll be a wiser person.

I don't like over-thinking love. Sure you might **** it up very easily somewhere down the line but you'll just end up back where you started, so it's not like you can't just find someone else and try again, and you'll be a wiser person. yeah, everyone can take it from me. I definitely have personal experience there.

overthinking relationships/attraction = bad. I missed out on tons of potential girls because I overthought everything.

overthinking relationships/attraction = bad

Ahaha I'm screwed. :p

I can't NOT think deeply into that kind of stuff. :p

so turns out there's a girl at our school who just might be a cylon

I have the most retarded haircut in the world right now

But I usually feel that way after I get a haircut, I have a really stupid face and no matter what i try I always come out thinking "god this sucks" and then a few days later it's like "oh this isn't so bad"

Didn't help that I wore a hat for a while today and that automatically makes my hair look stupid until i take a shower or something

Also I get to work 3 days this weekend and do homework and try and finish my essays for this summer school thing

I did something bizarre to my ankle, my ankle is feeling better now but I had to work right after I did the weird thing so I walked on my foot funny for 6 hours and my foot ached like a mother this morning and I had to limp like a weirdo down Main Street

Pickleworm : in complain-o-vision

Pickleworm : in complain-o-visionIf that was complain-o-vision, I'm running a cutting-edge new line of complain-o-flatscreens.

If that was complain-o-vision, I'm running a cutting-edge new line of complain-o-flatscreens.With added HD. :p

Ahaha I'm screwed. :p

I can't NOT think deeply into that kind of stuff. :p don't worry, I'm the exact same way. I'm a lucky ******* that my wife was understanding in our relationship, cause I took forever to do anything. I kept overthinking it all, and making it into a much bigger deal than it was.

just gotta find an equally insane person who can tolerate your retardation. that's what I did :cool:

With added HD. :p Blinx, you're awesome! I now love you :p

I have a really stupid face
Perhaps long, hippy hair that covers your face wold help.
(You could also call it "long, metal hair" if you object to hippies.)

Perhaps long, hippy hair that covers your face wold help.
(You could also call it "long, metal hair" if you object to hippies.)
that generally just makes it worse

Blinx, you're awesome! I now love you :p
Awww. :) I love you too.
Any reason why you do? :p lol

I often get that reaction. ;)



*DELUDED*

Perhaps long, hippy hair that covers your face wold help.
(You could also call it "long, metal hair" if you object to hippies.)

The one time I had longish hair I thought it was gross and scummy at the time but looking back at my school ID from that time it wasn't too horrible. I would probably hate it if I got it again though

Maybe I'll get dreadlocks, that's a good idea

Awww. I love you too.

I love the both of you

Let's have an OD orgy

Let's have an OD orgy

haha! keep that in online orgy, please! ;)

Let's have an OD orgy

This is in the right thread.

Let's have an OD orgy let's not.

I just spent 10 euro on the dvd of 28 days later SE, after seeing the sequel earlier I had to know how the blood-fest started :p, anyway, just finished watching it and I must say it were the most dull 2 1/2 hours in my life so far. Even my bi-weekly "beamer team" meetings were more thrilling.


Can't wait for saw 4.
I wanna pee in my pants out of terror again :( .

let's not.

Orgy pooper. :(



One of the cats píssed on the bed.
It was the same one that was in heat yesterday.

Oh boy!

I just spent 10 euro on the dvd of 28 days later SE, after seeing the sequel earlier I had to know how the blood-fest started :p, anyway, just finished watching it and I must say it were the most dull 2 1/2 hours in my life so far. Even my bi-weekly "beamer team" meetings were more thrilling.
You're so wrong.
28 Days Later is the most convincing zombie movie out there (except Shaun of the Dead, which is more a romance though).

Your major mistake was that you watched the sequel before the original. :/

Orgy pooper. :( I think there are websites for that sort of thing, and I'd rather not be affiliated with them

One of the cats píssed on the bed.
It was the same one that was in heat yesterday.I just want to point out how hilariously relevant this is to the other part of the post that I quoted.

You're so wrong.
28 Days Later is the most convincing zombie movie out there (except Shaun of the Dead, which is more a romance though).

Your major mistake was that you watched the sequel before the original. :/

Well, yeah, it was convinicing up to the part where mister mailman turned into a rambo look-a-like and started to kill all the soldiers.

in other news:
I miss the girl I love. a. lot.
We got a autumn holiday here, it's just 1 week and after that I'll see her again, it's almost over, but still...
It makes me feel sick, tired and emotionally unstable (I often start to cry when I think of her, even the faintest hint that could trigger a memory makes me all emo.)

I'm thinking of going to the school shrink after I'm done with my classes monday :confused: . He has helped me out earlier with less emotional situations, (doing homework, planning etc..). And I think he might be able to somehow "fix" this.

*messed up*

28 Days Later is the most convincing zombie movie out there

Despite the fact that the not-quite zombies would probably die a lot quicker than they do due to the lack of food and water they take in and the huge amounts of blood they vomit every 10 minutes?

Despite the fact that the not-quite zombies would probably die a lot quicker than they do due to the lack of food and water they take in and the huge amounts of blood they vomit every 10 minutes?

Yes.

To be fair, "the most convincing zombie film" isn't exactly saying a lot.

Yes.

To be fair, "the most convincing zombie film" isn't exactly saying a lot.

On reflection, I whole heartedly agree with Bonz's statement. :D

Idunno, I think Shaun Of The Dead has a lot going for it...

Resi Evil zombies aren't bad, either.

2Chums Moving Pictures "Zombie Movie" is even slightly better than 28 Days Later. :D
http://www.2chums.com/

It's the first and only 3rd party, non game related (short) movie available on Valve's Steam.

2Chums Moving Pictures "Zombie Movie" is even slightly better than 28 Days Later. :D
http://www.2chums.com/

It's the first and only 3rd party, non game related (short) movie available on Valve's Steam.

So.. . any reason they would put it on steam? Well, I can see the bandwidth may have got something to do with it. But using p2p that shouldnt be that much of a problem.:confused:

*mac user*

Right.
Turns out she doesn't like me.
Quite annoyed.
She saw me and just avoided me.
Even tho her best friend told me to just go up to and say "Hi".
So obviously, not a good plan at all.
Fúck it. :/

Right.
Turns out she doesn't like me.
Quite annoyed.
She saw me and just avoided me.
Even tho her best friend told me to just go up to and say "Hi".
So obviously, not a good plan at all.
Fúck it. :/

If I were you I'd go up to her and say hi, maybe she's just gone shy.

Women work.. diffrent.

I was going to do that. But she kept walking off.
So one of my friends then got ****ed off, and just went and found her, and asked her if she liked me.
And she said, "I don't know him and I don't like him".
Nuff said.

Also. I'm feeling reprocussions now. Last night, I went out with four of my best male friends, just for a meal and a walkabout, and I'm now skint, cos I brought R.E.M live whilst I was out. And alot of my other friends are going over one of their houses, and I couldn't be arsed to go, along with everybody who went out last night.
It would be basically a couple fest. Two couples, one girl who constantly *****es about her ex, one of the guys says fúck all, and another is such an arrogant cóck he makes me want to hurt him.
There's only one decent person there, and he's abit odd sometimes...very opinionated on music. He's the type of person that will listen to obscure music to prove that he's being obscure rather than because it's anygood. :/

Sorry. Rant over.

I can honestly say I don't blame you for not hanging out with them.

Last night, I went out with four of my best male friends, just for a meal and a walkabout, and I'm now skint, cos I brought R.E.M live whilst I was out.

That is a tad extravagant.

I didn't have that much money.

I was going to do that. But she kept walking off.
So one of my friends then got ****ed off, and just went and found her, and asked her if she liked me.
And she said, "I don't know him and I don't like him".
Nuff said.

Also. I'm feeling reprocussions now. Last night, I went out with four of my best male friends, just for a meal and a walkabout, and I'm now skint, cos I brought R.E.M live whilst I was out. And alot of my other friends are going over one of their houses, and I couldn't be arsed to go, along with everybody who went out last night.
It would be basically a couple fest. Two couples, one girl who constantly *****es about her ex, one of the guys says fúck all, and another is such an arrogant cóck he makes me want to hurt him.
There's only one decent person there, and he's abit odd sometimes...very opinionated on music. He's the type of person that will listen to obscure music to prove that he's being obscure rather than because it's anygood. :/

Sorry. Rant over.
u can hang out w/ me :)

u can hang out w/ me :)

This post is appropriate for Negative Events and Occurances.

I have an essay due in tomorrow, and it is not done.

Last minute panic is the best way to write essays

My summer essay I wrote in an hour and a half and handed it in 5 minutes before the deadline

And I slam DUNKED that essay make you no mistake :cool:

people are actually donating money to wikipedia :(

people are actually donating money to wikipedia :(

I once donated the (roughly) 30 cent that I had on my paypal account.
Sorry :(

people are actually donating money to wikipedia :(
Hahaha, owned.

PayPal donations are the new e-wang.

Chemistry midterm tomorrow...:p

Bah, somebody already took the name Melon at deviantart. I'm only over 5 years too late.

And H2Omelon too. dammit!

EDIT: h20-melon isn't taken MWAHAHAHA!

Mjeh, I don't know why people even bother with DeviantArt. It's not that great of a site. You can't expect any critique there, and the only people who see your art are your friends, so the comments you do get are all "Wow, that's awesome!" =/

That's why art forums are much better, you make a thread and everybody will see it. Imagine if this forum was like DeviantArt, you'd only see threads by users you subscibe too or happen to visit their personal page.. new users wouldn't be seen at all.

http://h2o-melon.deviantart.com/

Well, the main reason I did it was to host my art somewhere other than my site, as I'm beginning to run out of webspace. I know I could always use imageshack, but I felt deviantart was a better choice. I'll be able to keep tabs on Splapp and the like now.

Mjeh, I don't know why people even bother with DeviantArt. It's not that great of a site. You can't expect any critique there, and the only people who see your art are your friends, so the comments you do get are all "Wow, that's awesome!" =/

That's why art forums are much better, you make a thread and everybody will see it. Imagine if this forum was like DeviantArt, you'd only see threads by users you subscibe too or happen to visit their personal page.. new users wouldn't be seen at all.

WRAUNG. (at least for me)
I do get critique (when I ask for it) and I don't know half (+/- 40 %) of my watchers. However I do get "Wow, that's awesome!" a lot, but that's not to blame on the site :p

There's also this big shiny browse button on dA, where you can browse and search everything posted on deviantart since its launch. So there's no need to randomly stumble on someone's personal page.


Just stay active, go out and explore other art, comment on people's work, be an attention whore. And you'll get noticed sooner or later.

I have to go to college tomorrow. While it could be considered good in a strange way, its mostly bad as I really hate getting up before 9:00 am.

Welcome to my world.

I am sick.
My nose is running, my throat hurts because it's all dry from only breathing through the mouth and I think I'll get a cough soon too.

As this sort of thing has probably been posted dozens of times, I will just post one word instead.

Girl.

As this sort of thing has probably been posted dozens of times, I will just post one word instead.

Girl.
What a coincidence.
My girlfriend was the one that infected me with the flu.

I have to go to college tomorrow. While it could be considered good in a strange way, its mostly bad as I really hate getting up before 9:00 am.
why did you schedule classes before 9:00 then

UV Mapping is a pain in the ****..

why did you schedule classes before 9:00 then

The college is 25 miles away.
I'm 16.
Buses travel slowly and travelling on them is inefficient.

College in this context refers to sixteen or above education - Sixth Form - A Levels. I cannot schedule my own classes, the college day lasts from 9:15 am to 4:15 pm

I also have a Maths test tomorrow. Not that it really bothers me, I just don't think I'll be able to do anything first thing in the morning.
I'm pathetic. :(

I don't know what to type really..

We just received a phone call,
on the 8th of may in 2006 my grandma died, short after that my grandpa's health got worse and worse.
A couple of months back he got a Cerebral hemorrhage leading to dementia and a life in a hospital bed.

tonight he had a second one, he's in a coma now, going to decease within 24 hours.
To add to that, my brother's birthday is tomorrow.


I guess I'll be back to even more sighing and staring for a few days, just when things we're getting a bit brighter and back on track.:(



I wish I could burst out crying, but...

..

My mind keeps telling me it's ok, he has lived a beautifull life, he is going to the best place he could ever be...

And thinking about him makes my stomach twist and my body keeps on shaking.

Sorry to hear about your grandpa. :(

The college is 25 miles away.
I'm 16.
Buses travel slowly and travelling on them is inefficient.

College in this context refers to sixteen or above education - Sixth Form - A Levels. I cannot schedule my own classes, the college day lasts from 9:15 am to 4:15 pm

I also have a Maths test tomorrow. Not that it really bothers me, I just don't think I'll be able to do anything first thing in the morning.
I'm pathetic. :(
Don't worry, you get used to it.

I have to wake up everyday at 6am just because of the train ride, and have a test on Saturday. :(

...and now my grandma's off to the hospital with some pulmonar infection.

Natch.

tomorrow is gonna be a weird day...

It turned out my granpa didnt die within the 24 hours on the 5th..
We called last friday to check why we didn't get a mourning card, turns out he was still alive. that is, his heart was stil pumping and if he had any brain activity it would just be the Cerebral Cortex..
So, on sunday last week we decided to pay a visit, that is, my mom and sister did, I didn't go after thinking about for some time.. I'd rather remember him as the happy man who visited us at our parties, always smiling, rather than a pale-dying-old man who is "sleeping" in a hospital bed.

so anyway, they went off in the evening and came back not that much later. turns out he died that morning.


So, the funural is tomorrow.

After the funural ill have 5 hours before I'm going iceskating with some friends. Which hopefully will cheer me up again.

I nearly lost my mind last night.
I got some sort of food poisoning, which coupled with my rather depressing toughts and lack of sleep, led to some sort of mental breakdown... probably the worst I've ever had, and lasted a couple of hours... For a sec there I actually tought I wouldn't recover...

I nearly lost my mind last night.
I got some sort of food poisoning, which coupled with my rather depressing toughts and lack of sleep, led to some sort of mental breakdown... probably the worst I've ever had, and lasted a couple of hours... For a sec there I actually tought I wouldn't recover...
well that's scary

glad you're doing better

Bought a new 22" LCD screen in July.
A few days ago I noticed it was ghosting, with a duplicated faded image stretching across the screen.
I bought it from play.com who only offer replacements up to 4 weeks after purchase.
Because I bought it online there was no way I could get the warranty filled in because they are an online company.
I'm going to try and test it on a friend's pc and see if it still ghosts. If not play.com are getting the back of my hand and a scathing review on the monitor to hopefully prevent any sales. Oh and they'll go on 'the list'.

BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS

Sale of Goods Act. Retailer is responsible for fixing, replacing, exchanging or refunding the item if it breaks down within its reasonable life expectancy, considered to be at least one year. Even if you didn't register for the manufacturer's warranty, or the manufacturer doesn't offer one, you are still covered by law; the retailer will probably try to palm you off to the manufacturer, but they are legally obliged to help you.

For help, visit the Office of Fair Trading (http://www.oft.gov.uk/) or Consumer Direct (http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/).

To get started, I recommend doing what Play.com suggest in their Ts & Cs (http://www.play.com/HOME/HOME/6-/Help.html?page=terms#jump-02) (look at the bottom points of Liability). Be aware that a retailer must complete the repair, exchange, replacement or refund within a reasonable time, generally considered to be 28 days.

Also note that companies routinely offer terms and conditions and/or EULAs which protect rights they don't have or waive obligations they do. In these cases the law trumps their agreements.

BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS

Sale of Goods Act. Retailer is responsible for fixing, replacing, exchanging or refunding the item if it breaks down within its reasonable life expectancy, considered to be at least one year. Even if you didn't register for the manufacturer's warranty, or the manufacturer doesn't offer one, you are still covered by law; the retailer will probably try to palm you off to the manufacturer, but they are legally obliged to help you.

For help, visit the Office of Fair Trading (http://www.oft.gov.uk/) or Consumer Direct (http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/).

To get started, I recommend doing what Play.com suggest in their Ts & Cs (http://www.play.com/HOME/HOME/6-/Help.html?page=terms#jump-02) (look at the bottom points of Liability). Be aware that a retailer must complete the repair, exchange, replacement or refund within a reasonable time, generally considered to be 28 days.

Play's not in the UK though. They're in Jersey, and so rules don't apply (Think speed limit and Isle of Man). At least, that's what I've heard.



Yeah, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play.com

"Because Play.com is not registered in the UK, the Sale of Goods legislation which normally protects customers when faulty goods are supplied does not apply. Customers' rights are therefore restricted to the company's 'returns policy' which is stated above."

Play's not in the UK though. They're in Jersey, and so rules don't apply (Think speed limit and Isle of Man). At least, that's what I've heard.



Yeah, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play.com

"Because Play.com is not registered in the UK, the Sale of Goods legislation which normally protects customers when faulty goods are supplied does not apply. Customers' rights are therefore restricted to the company's 'returns policy' which is stated above."

Yes, UK law doesn't apply, but fortunately Jersey has its own laws.

http://www.cab.org.je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=724&Itemid=66

Consumer Law
1. Jersey has no Sale of Goods legislation to protect consumers but the consumer does nevertheless have certain protections under the common law of the Island. The Draft Supply of Goods and Servcies (Jersey) Law 200- is currently out for consultation see www.gov.je/EconomicDevelopment/TradingStandards/ConsultationStartsforNewLawtoProtectConsumers.htm
2. The Merchandise Marks (Jersey) Law 1958 and the Trade marks (Jersey) Law 2000 prevent the application to merchandise of false trade descriptions. The meaning of 'false trading descriptions' include any statement 'as to the fitness for purpose, strength, performance or behaviour of any goods' and 'as to the material of which any goods are composed'. The application of a false trade description is a criminal offence.
...
4. Goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are sold andif they are defective or faulty a buyer does have a legal right to a refund irrespective of whether or not an exclusion clause is displayed and/or seen by the consumer.
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6. Also 'Common Law', which is based on precedent, would protect a consumer who had been sold an item which was clearly 'unfit for it's purpose'. This would apply to a new item only, and the Court would expect the purchaser to have satisfied her/himself of the item's fitness, where possible.

Yes, UK law doesn't apply, but fortunately Jersey has its own laws.

http://www.cab.org.je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=724&Itemid=66

I don't see anything there that covers this though.

It wasn't falsely advertised, and it wasn't unfit for it's purpose.

4. is the closest clearly, but as it doesn't mention a time period (I highly doubt you could demand somebody replace a 100 year old item that's broken for example), so either there's been a precedence set that determines the time period it covers (in which case we might have a winner), or it just refers to upon the point at which you receive the product, i.e. no shipping a broken monitor and then laughing horribly).

Of course, IANAL. Star Worms should totally go ahead and contact the Jersey Trading Standards. He might not have much luck with them, but at least he'll have more than he would with the UK Trading Standards!

Lets just narrow this post down to one word

love.

...

lets say I'm so in love it hurts, i cant think at all anymore, my brain keeps on repeating her name and showing images of her eyes (in the sunlight they're white-light blue, in the shade they're deep-dark blue) and her face... her personality is just.. perfect...

and... *sigh*

I'd just wish to get over and done with it...

I feel... numbed... It's complicated

I don't see anything there that covers this though.

It wasn't falsely advertised, and it wasn't unfit for it's purpose.

If it's ghosting after less than five months then it's not by any reasonable measure fit for purpose.


Edit: what the hell is "IANAL"?

Edit2: Nevermind; figured it out. Still, though, HCII?

Sorry about that, I got to barking up the wrong tree. But yes, 'not fit for purpose' includes '****ed'. I didn't know Jersey wasn't technically part of the UK. Sorry again.

Lets just narrow this post down to one word

love.

...

lets say I'm so in love it hurts, i cant think at all anymore, my brain keeps on repeating her name and showing images of her eyes (in the sunlight they're white-light blue, in the shade they're deep-dark blue) and her face... her personality is just.. perfect...

and... *sigh*

I'd just wish to get over and done with it...

I feel... numbed... It's complicated
why's that a negative event

i mean aside from the fact that love is the polar opposite of rationality i guess

It is when you know it won't work out.:-/

If it's ghosting after less than five months then it's not by any reasonable measure fit for purpose.


Edit: what the hell is "IANAL"?

Edit2: Nevermind; figured it out. Still, though, HCII?

Depends on their definition of fit for purpose. Which is where it becomes horribly lawyeresque and I duck out of the discussion.

HCII? No idea what that is. D:

Depends on their definition of fit for purpose. Which is where it becomes horribly lawyeresque and I duck out of the discussion.

HCII? No idea what that is. D:

No, I made up HCII to make a point. (It stood for "Hardly Clear, Is It".)

But to be honest I think the "purpose" of a monitor is to display an image, and if it stops doing that properly after half a year of normal use then it's not fit for that purpose. I don't know if they have some kind of precedent that gives vendors the right to stomp all over consumers, but I can't imagine they do because that's no way to run an economy.

No, I made up HCII to make a point. (It stood for "Hardly Clear, Is It".)

But to be honest I think the "purpose" of a monitor is to display an image, and if it stops doing that properly after half a year of normal use then it's not fit for that purpose. I don't know if they have some kind of precedent that gives vendors the right to stomp all over consumers, but I can't imagine they do because that's no way to run an economy.

IANAL is used commonly on most of the forums I visit, hence the assumption. Apologies!

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Anywho, I tried the monitor on a friend's PC and it was fine, so it looks like it's something in my PC that's causing it, presumably the graphics card which I will replace soon anyway.

Also, my address, bank details etc have got lost in the post.

Also, my address, bank details etc have got lost in the post.

Well, you should have thought of that before you left your family for some young hussie, then, shouldn't you?

Anywho, I tried the monitor on a friend's PC and it was fine, so it looks like it's something in my PC that's causing it, presumably the graphics card which I will replace soon anyway.
Could also be the VGA/DVI cable and/or a pin of it.
Try a different cable first. It's easier to change the graphics card.

Could also be the VGA/DVI cable and/or a pin of it.
Try a different cable first. It's easier to change the graphics card.what he said. when I was having dual-monitor issues it was the cable rather than the monitors or video card. much easier ot fix.

It is when you know it won't work out.:-/
yeah that does suck

Paul.Power says:
Anyway, I'm afraid I failed my driving test
Paul.Power says:
Five serious faults, 30 faults total
Paul.Power says:
But I know what I did wrong, and I know I can fix it
Paul.Power says:
Big Problem #1: I didn't check my mirrors as often as I should have
Paul.Power says:
You're supposed to do it every time you change speed for whatever reason
Paul.Power says:
It's always been a bit of a problem with me
<SupSuper> Samtastic King Awesome Thunderpants says:
i still don't see how that adds up to 30
Paul.Power says:
Big Problem #2: a few times I forgot to indicate left going left off a roundabout
Paul.Power says:
Big Problem #3: a traffic light changed from green to amber as I was about to go through, and instead of just going through on a "point of no return" basis, I stopped abruptly, over the line
<SupSuper> Samtastic King Awesome Thunderpants says:
oh dear
Paul.Power says:
Big Problem #4: reversing round a corner, I didn't look behind me enough times
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #1: quite often I set off in second gear. I didn't stall, but that was the only thing stopping me from this becoming Big Problem #5
Paul.Power says:
brb
Paul.Power says:
back
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #2: a couple of times I was stuck at a traffic light for a long time, and I didn't "handbrake/neutral" early enough
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #3: I didn't always go fast enough for the examiner's liking
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #4: my move-aways weren't perfect
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #5: my observation wasn't great on my reverse into a parking bay
Paul.Power says:
Small Problem #6: my observation wasn't always great on junctions
Paul.Power says:
That's about it
Paul.Power says:
On the plus side, my emergency stop was pretty damn textbook

Small Problem #2: a couple of times I was stuck at a traffic light for a long time, and I didn't "handbrake/neutral" early enough

I've heard about you Brits doing that. In this country everyone just holds their foot on the foot brake. Nobody ever uses the handbrake at a stop light. I can't believe they'd mark you off for that.

Everyone stops using Handbrake & Neutral as soon as they pass. The car's less likely to move one way or t'other if the handbrake's on and your feet slip off the pedals.

Ugh, that's pretty harsh. I failed my driver's test like 4 times because of lame-o parallel parking, and then once afterwards for one of those not-quite-complete-stops that everybody does but shouldn't.

And for all of it, I've actually parallel parked in the real world once. But hey, I got it just about perfect, so there.

...I will probably have to re-test for my license, however, because I let it expire like a moron. : |

My driving test was a piece of cake. I got over the minimum 92% in both theoretical and practical testing.

Although, after the driving the tester annotated that I should have slowed down just because a mother with a baby carriage was on the pavement when I passed by.
That could have been the reason why the driving teacher constantly pulled up the gas pedal on his side, which completely confused me, as the teacher which I practised with never did that.

and then once afterwards for one of those not-quite-complete-stops that everybody does but shouldn't. hehe, I did that throughout my testing, but since I did it in a fairly small town, the lady was down to earth enough to pass me since she knew damn well everyone on earth does those "stops" and that they're perfectly safe.

And for all of it, I've actually parallel parked in the real world once. But hey, I got it just about perfect, so there. does anyone ever really encounter parallel parking commonly? around here I don't even know where one would need to and it's not even part of our driving tests, but supposedly people do use them....where? why?!

Although, after the driving the tester annotated that I should have slowed down just because a mother with a baby carriage was on the pavement when I passed by.
That could have been the reason why the driving teacher constantly pulled up the gas pedal on his side, which completely confused me, as the teacher which I practised with never did that. uh....perhaps I'm just a stupid american in this situation, but if there is a danger of the woman with the carriage being too close to the car for passing near her to be safe then the woman needs to learn to walk in public. if the problem is the wind caused by the car making the baby sick then the mother needs to purchase a bubble :p

does anyone ever really encounter parallel parking commonly? around here I don't even know where one would need to and it's not even part of our driving tests, but supposedly people do use them....where? why?!

If you're parking on a street that already has lots of cars down it. Pretty common in or near Leeds city centre -- the few streets where it's legal to park fill up pretty fast.

If you're parking on a street that already has lots of cars down it. Pretty common in or near Leeds city centre -- the few streets where it's legal to park fill up pretty fast.no parking lots?

Yeah, pretty much everybody I know will drive around the block 6 times looking for a better spot than parallel park into one, but I can see it being a pretty useful skill in city situations or etc. I was already in the middle of parallel parking that one time before I even really thought about it. I finished and I was like "...Did I just parallel park? Why?"

no parking lots?
Not in residential streets where people don't have off-road parking.

Not in residential streets where people don't have off-road parking.we've just got driveways up to our houses here....people park in those :p

What's a "drive-way"? :p

In inner-city housing estates, there's not usually room for a driveway big enough for anything larger than a bicycle. That's if there's even room for a driveway.

What's a "drive-way"? :p

In inner-city housing estates, there's not usually room for a driveway big enough for anything larger than a bicycle. That's if there's even room for a driveway.ah ok.....you'll have to forgive the country bumpkin, but around here we've pretty much got room enough for driveways anywhere. the only time the streets are used are if you have a lot of people at your house.

I wonder when I'll ever have the time to get a drivers licence.

I wonder if it's worth getting a driver's license.

and here I am in america where I would never be able to do anything without a car...

hell, i drive 30 miles to work every day

My driving test was a piece of cake. I got over the minimum 92% in both theoretical and practical testing.

Although, after the driving the tester annotated that I should have slowed down just because a mother with a baby carriage was on the pavement when I passed by.
That could have been the reason why the driving teacher constantly pulled up the gas pedal on his side, which completely confused me, as the teacher which I practised with never did that.I usually do anyway. After all, they might suddenly decide to cross the road.

... wait, you have dual gas pedals? We only have dual clutch and dual brake... dual gas sounds dangerous, frankly.

We don't have a percentage system here. One major fault, that's it, you've failed. There are also minor faults, which in themselves don't fail you, but commit the same minor fault too many times and it adds up to a major.

I usually do anyway. After all, they might suddenly decide to cross the road.
I doubt that someone pushing a baby carriage will "suddenly" cross the road.
Besides, you would have to go at walking pace wherever there's a pavement next to the road.
... wait, you have dual gas pedals? We only have dual clutch and dual brake... dual gas sounds dangerous, frankly.
Hm.
Never thought about that.
Might be handy during a overtaking manoeuvre when the learner driver freaks out.

Trucks even have a second steering wheel for the teacher.
One major fault, that's it, you've failed.
Yes, that's the same here for the pratical test.

and here I am in america where I would never be able to do anything without a car...

hell, i drive 30 miles to work every day

Yeah, that's something that has amazed me the last two times or so that I visited, you are compleatly stuck without a car. I'm so used to being able to take the buss or subway anywhere.

To be honest, you're a bit stuck without a car here in Swansea. When I lived in Glais, we had a bus into town once every two hours. Travel from Birchgrove's a fair bit easier than that, although working out the timetables can still make my head hurt.

Trains to Cardiff Central from Llansamlet are also once every two hours (well, once every hour if you don't mind going back to Swansea, then changing trains to go to Cardiff Central).

Trefforest has a brilliant train station though. Three or four different trains run between Trefforest and Cardiff Queen Street, because of all the traffic from the Valleys passing through on that line, so you're rarely waiting more than 15 minutes even if you show up randomly. I got more use out of my Young Person's Railcard in one year at Uni. Glamorgan than I got in three at Cambridge.

Around here we have trains and buses every 10 minutes during rush hours, every 20 otherwise, and every 30 on weekends.

keep in mind that I live out in the sticks. I have no idea what actual city life is like :p

keep in mind that I live out in the sticks. I have no idea what actual city life is like :p
Nor do I; I live in Swansea

*b'dum-tsch*

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EDIT: On the subject of scaring Aku, I'm surprised we haven't talked about roundabouts yet.

I can't sleep. :p

EDIT: On the subject of scaring Aku, I'm surprised we haven't talked about roundabouts yet.those are frightening? I've seen pictures of them all over the place and while they do look to be confusing (and I completely don't understand the point of them), I fail to see how they're frightening :p

(and I completely don't understand the point of them)1. Keeping a continuous flow of traffic in all directions, unlike a traffic light which might block one or two directions for a long time.

2. Allowing for odder crossing angles than a normal junction.

3. Very useful for organising motorway and trunk road junctions.

The frightening part is keeping track of everything. Giving way to stuff from the right, road position going into and through, speed, gears, indicator, the cars behind you...

I completely don't understand the point of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Safety

Also, you don't need traffic lights were you have to wait, so if the traffic isn't heavy, it'll be more fluent.

Apropos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1eJqVtYi1k
:D

1. Keeping a continuous flow of traffic in all directions, unlike a traffic light which might block one or two directions for a long time.

2. Allowing for odder crossing angles than a normal junction.

3. Very useful for organising motorway and trunk road junctions.

The frightening part is keeping track of everything. Giving way to stuff from the right, road position going into and through, speed, gears, indicator, the cars behind you...traffic lights with sensors to tell where the majority of cars are at any given time = good. the odder angles I can give you, but I can't really imagine a need to make a town with awkward angles like that :p and I wouldn't know about the motorway or trunk road junctions as I don't know what those are :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Safety

Also, you don't need traffic lights were you have to wait, so if the traffic isn't heavy, it'll be more fluent. yes, but if the traffic IS heavy it becomes an ungodly nightmare, while traffic lights simply make you wait in line for a bit...typically not even all that long.

Apropos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1eJqVtYi1k
:Dthat's just evil!

traffic lights with sensors to tell where the majority of cars are at any given time = good.
Those can cause even more problems if people don't get it and don't drive up to the sensor's reach.
In Europe, people speak many languages.
the odder angles I can give you, but I can't really imagine a need to make a town with awkward angles like that
Well, in Europe towns aren't built from scratch in orthogonal patterns.
They've grown like that from the middle ages.
yes, but if the traffic IS heavy it becomes an ungodly nightmare, while traffic lights simply make you wait in line for a bit...typically not even all that long.
I have to object.
If traffic is really heavy, it's more likely that there's a traffic jam at the traffic lights which will increase waiting times.
In a roundabout the traffic, albeit much slower, will continue.

Oh, roundabouts aren't scary are they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29


I'd like to see an American tackle that one on their first ever visit to a roundabout-using country :p

Those can cause even more problems if people don't get it and don't drive up to the sensor's reach.
In Europe, people speak many languages.I fail to see how multiple languages effect anything. red = stop. it's not hard to drill a color into the memory of anyone, regardless of language barriers. how is a roundabout less complicated for someone who speaks swahili? :p

Well, in Europe towns aren't built from scratch in orthogonal patterns.
They've grown like that from the middle ages. true enough, but I'd love to see the layout of one of these town where the streets are at such funky angles that traffic lights wouldn't work :p

I have to object.
If traffic is really heavy, it's more likely that there's a traffic jam at the traffic lights which will increase waiting times.
In a roundabout the traffic, albeit much slower, will continue. traffic lights don't result in traffic jams. stupid people result in traffic jams. if someone's going to be stupid at a traffic light they're equally likely to be stupid on a roundabout. and both end up with similar results.

Oh, roundabouts aren't scary are they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29


I'd like to see an American tackle that one on their first ever visit to a roundabout-using country :p dear lord that's evil!.....and confusing :p

Wow, that's mad.

Peniel Green Road traffic lights and Morriston Cross traffic lights are absolutely horrible and they seriously need roundabouts there.

Peniel Green Road:

30991

I fail to see how multiple languages effect anything. red = stop. it's not hard to drill a color into the memory of anyone, regardless of language barriers. how is a roundabout less complicated for someone who speaks swahili?
Because people don't realize that they have to drive up to the stop line, where the sensors are built into the tarmac.
I've been standing at a junction in a jam for several minutes with the traffic light never switching to green because the idiot at the front didn't do so until someone got out of the car and went over to him.

And that person was an Austrian who should have been able to read the sign that was placed beneath the traffic line.
Now imagine someone that doesn't speak German. Especially in an area near the border with many tourists or foreign shoppers where I live.

Hold up there.

Where you live, people don't drive up to the stop line? Here they stop with their exhaust pipe well past it.

Hold up there.

Where you live, people don't drive up to the stop line? Here they stop with their exhaust pipe well past it.
Hehe! :)
Obviously not in the case I mentioned...

Hold up there.

Where you live, people don't drive up to the stop line? Here they stop with their exhaust pipe well past it.
Wow, where do you live where people stop when a light goes red?

Wow, where do you live where people stop when a light goes red?

Yes, the light turns red, the cross-traffic starts moving, and they stop as soon as they hit it. Which is well over the stop line.

Because people don't realize that they have to drive up to the stop line, where the sensors are built into the tarmac.
I've been standing at a junction in a jam for several minutes with the traffic light never switching to green because the idiot at the front didn't do so until someone got out of the car and went over to him.

And that person was an Austrian who should have been able to read the sign that was placed beneath the traffic line.
Now imagine someone that doesn't speak German. Especially in an area near the border with many tourists or foreign shoppers where I live.well let's see. there's a big red light, and a big white line in the road. I can't remember either of those things having words on them :p obviously no method is idiot-proof, but you can't change the way things work to accomodate the idiot minority. if you do you end up with......america....

Hold up there.

Where you live, people don't drive up to the stop line? Here they stop with their exhaust pipe well past it.oh so it's not just americans that do that, then :p

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I'll probably put all of the stuff I did in college up to internetoland sometimesies.

well let's see. there's a big red light, and a big white line in the road. I can't remember either of those things having words on them :p obviously no method is idiot-proof, but you can't change the way things work to accomodate the idiot minority. if you do you end up with......america....
I think you got something wrong.
Of course people would stop the a red light.
But in the case I mentioned, that one driver stopped a few meters in front of the white line where the sensor was.
This caused the light to stay red forever.
And since it was red, he didn't drive any further.

Wouldn't it be better to built traffic lights with fail-safe systems that make sure all the lights go green, even when there's nothing detected, every so often?

Wouldn't it be better to built traffic lights with fail-safe systems that make sure all the lights go green, even when there's nothing detected, every so often?
It was a left turn lane on a 6 lane street.
If noone wants to turn left, there's no need for the light to turn green.

Edit:
This discussion about traffic lights and roundabouts is getting rather off-topic for the negativ events & occurrances thread.

We should move it to the "100% off-traffic roundabout" thread... ;)

It was a left turn lane on a 6 lane street.
If noone wants to turn left, there's no need for the light to turn green.

Edit:
This discussion about traffic lights and roundabouts is getting rather off-topic for the negativ events & occurrances thread.

We should move it to the "100% off-traffic roundabout" thread... ;)this is OD. who cares. and if someone does, then the mods can move it all :p

still think that even in that situation, the light should've been rigged to automatically turn green at least long enough for 1 car to go at the end of the cycle. otherwise crap like what you just mentioned happens, which is stupid.

This discussion about traffic lights and roundabouts is getting rather off-topic for the negativ events & occurrances thread.

I don't see why.

Hmm.
I need help.
I was being complimentary to a girl and I said she was beautfiul and I'd pull her if I could.
Which prompted her to say "hehe thanks *blush*"
Then I said, "Well I assume you don't reciprocate those feelings?"
Her : "I don't know"
Me : "I won't be offended or anything if you don't"
Her: "No seriously I don't know".

Now. In school. We hug quite alot. I can wrap my arms around her and rest my head on her shoulder and she'll touch my hand. She strokes my hair sometimes.

I'm confused.
She's come out of a big realtionship about a month ago. She lost her virginity to this guy, who happens to be one of my friends, he's moved on, and he treated her like crap for the duration.
So, either she's still attracted to him, and not over him.
Or.
I've been friends with her for a very long time, pretty close, we wen't out about two-three years ago, and it didn't work out because she left me for someone else. This was when we were thirteen, not proper relationships.
So, she might not see me in that way.
But, I doubt it, because she doesnt react in this manner to other guys...

*confused*

And then she said this.

Gareth | Operator Please says:
I was wondering...you don't mind me like, hugging you and stuff do you?
Her says:
no not at all
Her says:
its nice
Gareth | Operator Please says:
=]
Gareth | Operator Please says:
It's just that, well, no other guys do it to you. Well, or at least to that extent
Her says :
nah its fine
Her says:
its just like if tanya or kate does it

:(

Leave her alone, don't pressurise her in to anything she's not comfortable with. She might be comparing you to her last boyfriend and you certainly seem like a nice chap but she's far from sure if she's interested in you in that way. Right now her thoughts and feelings will be up in the air while she mentally processes all that has gone on in her past relationship. If you DO get together and she still can't be sure then she'll get out of it, meaning you'll both be hurt and any chance you have of a relationship in future will be lessened severely.

The best thing you can do is stop clutching at chances, keep yourself in the mindset that you are JUST very good friends, and be there for her. That's what she needs most right now. Don't push your way in to her thoughts or give her anything extra to think about, let her make her own mind up. It's not a competition. I'm sure you'd hope that she chooses you over anyone else for genuine reasons under her own steam.

I'd say she sees you a friend. Treating you differently from the rest is nothing to go on, it's probably just because you've known each other for long and have grown close, but I wouldn't put it past it unless she makes it more obvious. Hugging, blushing, etc, are pretty normal reactions for girls.

Agreed. :)
Nice one guys. I'll keep your advise in mind.
Seems like I'm clutching at non-exsistant straws, hoping something will come up.
I haven't been with someone for awhile. I kinda miss it, but with the workload from school + band practice.
I don't think I need the added strain. :)

Here are the calander entries I have for next week.









:)

I'll probably put all of the stuff I did in college up to internetoland sometimesies.
those are awfully verbose schedule entries
Agreed. :)
Nice one guys. I'll keep your advise in mind.
Seems like I'm clutching at non-exsistant straws, hoping something will come up.
I haven't been with someone for awhile. I kinda miss it, but with the workload from school + band practice.
I don't think I need the added strain. :)

right, you're reading way too much into stuff

end result here is that you're becoming a bit creepy tbqh

those are awfully verbose schedule entries

It gets the job done.

It gets the job done.
i can see why

yes, but if the traffic IS heavy it becomes an ungodly nightmare, while traffic lights simply make you wait in line for a bit...typically not even all that long.

So speaks a man who's country was built around the roads, rather than vice-versa.

A busy set of traffic lights is intensley more inconvenient than a busy roundabout. The flow of traffic at aroundabout is generally spread so that you never find yourself sitting still for more than a few seconds. Unless, of course you're at a large roundabout with traffic lights.

Plus, roundabouts are fun. I'll put your aparant distrust down to ignorance.

Plus, roundabouts are fun. I'll put your aparant distrust down to ignorance.that may be entirely the case. they don't seem to be extremely practical at all to me, but I've yet to actually use one, so I'm just going off of their appearance.

....you've never used a roundabout?! What the hell.

....you've never used a roundabout?! What the hell. *is american*

*is also American and has never used a roundabout, but was aware of what they are*

Hmmm turns out my brother is not leaving after all...
They apparently had some trouble with the inmigration department or whoever handles inmigrations over there, then they tried hiring him here in mexico then send him over to holland as training, but they apparently couldn't do that either. The most annoying part about this is my brother just found out about this last monday. He's already paid for the ticket and everything, so it's quite annoying that they waited until the freaking last second to tell him that.
Meh.

The heating in my block is broken and has been broken since the power failure on Thursday morning (power came back 7 hours after it went off - heating, well, didn't.). And I haven't had a chance to report it yet because I've been so stupidly busy. AND, being Sunday, there's nobody I can report it to.

Oh, and my room is like an iceblock! I've been trying to use my PowerBook as a radiator, but can't get any heat into it, even when maxing out the CPU. The CPU temperature's around 10C lower than what it usually is, which suggests the temperature in my room is around 10 - 12C.

I've fallen quite a long way back on my Computing coursework. In fact, I hadn't done any of it since we started (which was about a month ago).

Fortunatly, after a weekend of some working, I'm now only a week behind instead of a month behind. :D

Oh man, I was sick at work tonight. The cleaner is going to get a pleasant surprise when she comes to clean out cubicle number 3 in the gents toilets. I feel proud... and awful. :(

You know there's been a couple of ocations at work when I arrive there's some of that yellow "caution" lines things taped all over the bathroom door blocking the entrance. Bet you can't top that. :p

You know there's been a couple of ocations at work when I arrive there's some of that yellow "caution" lines things taped all over the bathroom door blocking the entrance. Bet you can't top that. :p:eek: tell me that's a joke...

Nope. I was pretty confused when I saw that myself.

Hell, I should do that at home.

Oh man, I was sick at work tonight. The cleaner is going to get a pleasant surprise when she comes to clean out cubicle number 3 in the gents toilets. I feel proud... and awful. :(

You'll arive at work and there will be a mop waiting for you at your desk :p

College is slowly but surely killing everything I love. With a rusty dagger.

College is slowly but surely killing everything I love. With a rusty dagger.
come to college in the US :cool:

come to college in the US :cool:

Why has the phrase "the blind leading the blind" entered my head?

Why has the phrase "the blind leading the blind" entered my head?
i know you think insulting america is hilarious, but we still have the best institutes of higher learning in the world

College is slowly but surely killing everything I love. With a rusty dagger.To repeat myself: Good thing I'm stuck in a crappy second-shift factory job that I loathe with every fiber of my being! Oh, WAIT

i know you think insulting america is hilarious, but we still have the best institutes of higher learning in the worldthat may be true, but he does still have a point :p not exactly the most obvious point of what he made, but still a point.

edit: also, I forgot I actually have something to contribute.

I went to go watch The Golden Compass today. I'm a huge fan of the books and wanted to see how they adapted the story to movie format. unfortunately, they didn't. they took all the important scenes in the book and spliced them into a random series of scenes that appear as if they SHOULD be connected, but aren't in any way actually connected. it was so pointlessly butchered that I was completely lost by the end of the movie, even knowing what was supposed to happen. it's kind of like they swore they wouldn't take out any of the plot like most movies do when adapted from a book....welll, they met that goal, and left all of the story-line on the side of the road leading to the end result.

I wanted to punch someone for making such a horrible movie, without consideration for what the books were like at all....when I thought about the books, I wanted to slaughter babies...

I've not seen it, but from what I hear they've offended the religious crowd by making the film at all, and offended the non-religious crowd by trying to placate the religious crowd.

I think I'll skip the film completely -- I've not even read the book and I've yet to hear anyone say the film is better.

I've not seen it, but from what I hear they've offended the religious crowd by making the film at all, and offended the non-religious crowd by trying to placate the religious crowd.mostly that has to do with the fact that if you don't put any thought into the book, it's EXTREMELY sacreligious. if you DO put thought into it it's really not at all, but we all know how many people on this planet are going to think something through.....

I think I'll skip the film completely -- I've not even read the book and I've yet to hear anyone say the film is better. the books are worth the read. those are really rather good if you're into the epic fantasy sort of thing. the movie, however, seems more like they let the writers of "I Laid Your Hot Mom" (my favorite porn title ever seen on the list of what we offer in the rooms at work :D) have a go at rewriting the books.

I started reading Northern Lights (that's the Golden Compass if you happen to be American) a good few years back. I got to about Chapter 4 and stopped. I didn't think it worth carrying on.

i know you think insulting america is hilarious, but we still have the best institutes of higher learning in the world

Institute singular. Harvard just pips Cambridge*.

* The one I went to, not MIT :p

Institute singular. Harvard just pips Cambridge*.

* The one I went to, not MIT :p

Who judges this stuff?

Who judges this stuff?There are many lists, but offhand I can find the one that supports my statement.

Yes, yes, I know :p

I started reading Northern Lights (that's the Golden Compass if you happen to be American) a good few years back. I got to about Chapter 4 and stopped. I didn't think it worth carrying on.really? ah well, to each his own I guess.

curious that they renamed it Northern Lights for europe though, as it really wouldn't make any sense considering the name of the series....

really? ah well, to each his own I guess.

curious that they renamed it Northern Lights for europe though, as it really wouldn't make any sense considering the name of the series....Eeeexcept it was originally called Northern Lights and was renamed to The Golden Compass for you guys :p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Lights_%28novel%29

C'mon, I know that and I've never read the books.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRNNNN!!!!! :cool: :p

Eeeexcept it was originally called Northern Lights and was renamed to The Golden Compass for you guys :p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Lights_%28novel%29

C'mon, I know that and I've never read the books.not saying that it's a lesser name, just that it doesn't make sense considering the series title. though I did read the wiki shortly after that post I made and saw that it was originally called Northern Lights then changed for us, and the same was true for the series name.

personally, I prefer The Golden Compass name, but that's neither here nor there.

and also: :p

not saying that it's a lesser name, just that it doesn't make sense considering the series title. though I did read the wiki shortly after that post I made and saw that it was originally called Northern Lights then changed for us, and the same was true for the series name.

personally, I prefer The Golden Compass name, but that's neither here nor there.

and also: :p

right, why would northern lights be one of his dark materials - it doesn't really make sense

Firstly, Oh **** (http://www.jump-leads.com/news/119). Although he's taking it very well, and urges us to "keep things cheerful".

Secondly, right, why would northern lights be one of his dark materials - it doesn't really make senseStop assuming things have to make sense. That's the trouble with Americans ;p.

Thirdly, traffic lights use up electricity, roundabouts don't.

Thirdly, traffic lights use up electricity, roundabouts don't.
Fourthly, if electricity fails, you'll need a cop to guide the traffic.

Thirdly, traffic lights use up electricity, roundabouts don't.ok, now THAT is a very good point. for that reason alone I can support roundabouts despite my distrust :p