Paintball for wussies?

Paintball for people who actually want to have fun. :p

Paintball is fun. Just expensive.

University connection seems to vary a bit (it was equally busy when I tried these):
http://www.speedtest.net/result/452011731.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/451956627.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Interestingly, my house is apparently ~100 miles from Maidenhead, but the Uni is ~150 miles :-/

My rough calculation says that it's 170 miles.

Paintball for wussies?

Laser tag and paintballing are different kinds of games. Laser tag is played mostly in an indoor arena in mostly close quarters and involves electronic scoring, tagging, deactivation, power-ups, etc. Paintball is usually played outdoors over greater distance.

Quasar regulars in the UK play Supercharge. This limits you to one shot per second, so you must make every shot count. Normally in Quasar if you are hit, you get the chance to shoot back once for one second after, called a Reflex Shot. If, however, you have already taken a shot less than a second before being hit yourself, you will not get one, so you must be careful. If you hit someone five times without being hit yourself, you will become charged, your gun will say "A-a-a-active," and your gun will shoot three times instead of once when you press the trigger. You will then be able to shoot the enemy base and destroy it for a points bonus for your team.

Wouldn't it be awesome if someone recreated famous online multiplayer game maps for paintball matches?

*dreams on*

Wouldn't it be awesome if someone recreated famous online multiplayer game maps for paintball matches?
These come to my mind immediately:

de_dust
2forts
Facing Worlds

Although, the last one could be quite dangerous if you actually add a deep abyss.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/452992752.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

My speed isn't bad but my ISP is a horrible bunch of **** farmers.

These come to my mind immediately:

de_dust
2forts
Facing Worlds

Although, the last one could be quite dangerous if you actually add a deep abyss.I think 2fort's pretty dangerous too, given fall damage is much more of an issue in real life :p

Blood Gulch would be perfect, then. There's hardly any place you could fall from and get really hurt. Well there's that sniper spot you can only get to with a banshee, but there are no banshees and/or flying vehicles in paintball. :P

But yeah, de_dust and de_dust2 would be instant hits.

bahahaha. what sort of ping do you get when connecting to, say, london or new york

A bit under 40ms to the UK and around 120ms to New York according to Speedtest.net, though it's very obvious the current mood of the servers hosting the service effects the outcome more than my connection does. These are, without too much investigation, the good numbers. It can get a lot worse and indeed in practice most online games give me a ping of around 50ms on British servers and around 30ms on mainland ones. That was on the previous laptop and before my connection speed was upgraded, but neither of those should make much difference to ping times, I think.


Edit: Want this map.

http://ut.orda.dk/stats/images/maps/dm-morpheus.jpg

I landed an animating gig doing some Flash banners. The problem is I have until mid-morning tomorrow to do them and they require LOADS of hand drawn frames. Hundreds, in fact. I'm cheating by filming myself and tracing my outline.

This really belongs in the Negative thread but I like that I have some work for now. :)

Edit: Want this map.

http://ut.orda.dk/stats/images/maps/dm-morpheus.jpg
Ah, yes!
That and the original Phobos Moon.
http://arbitrarysyndicates.com/OriginalUT/DM-Phobos.gif

What about these? :p
http://www.fraggednation.com/images/maps/q3dm7.png http://www.fraggednation.com/images/maps/q3dm17.png

Edit: Want this map.

http://ut.orda.dk/stats/images/maps/dm-morpheus.jpg

Is that an old version of Morpheus 3?

Is that an old version of Morpheus 3?

Looks like the orignal UT versions.

Yup, exactly. It's the only Unreal Tournament I played extensively. Morpheus pretty much cured any fear of heights I might have had back then.

It and an Urban Terror map called Ramelle that had a huge tower on one end that you could climb, then jump down from a window at the top, aim for a courtyard fountain and survive with some luck. That made me throw up in my mouth a little at first, but through mindless repetition, I bested it. I wonder if I can find any pictures of Ramelle... oh and Docks, that one would have been amazing if built for real, but I guess a little dangerous with the high buildings. Awesome layout, though.

Ramelle:

http://www.urbanterror.net/e107_plugins/autogallery/Gallery/Maps/Ramelle/Ramelle-2.jpg


Some other maps from that game:

http://www.urbanterror.net/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=Maps

What about these? :p
http://www.fraggednation.com/images/maps/q3dm7.png http://www.fraggednation.com/images/maps/q3dm17.png

Q3DM7 isn't dangerous.
Though Q3DM17 is (what with the void and all).

Hmm, I don't know. I think I might prefer death by gaping void to death by slow molten lava incineration.

Hmm, I don't know. I think I might prefer death by gaping void to death by slow molten lava incineration.

Slow? I would have thought it would be pretty quick.

I don't know.
I'd imagine a human body would float on lava and you'll burn. Burning takes a while.
My point was, there isn't much lava in Q3DM7, whereas there's ample oppurtunity to fall off the map in Q3DM17.

I'd imagine a human body would float on lava
Yup.
Lava densities (http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/1999-11/943417499.Es.r.html): 2.1 to 2.6 g/cm^3, depending on the rock composition.
Human density (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bio99/bio99503.htm): slightly above or below 1 g/cm^3, depending how fat/muscular you are.

University connection seems to vary a bit (it was equally busy when I tried these):
http://www.speedtest.net/result/452011731.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/451956627.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Interestingly, my house is apparently ~100 miles from Maidenhead, but the Uni is ~150 miles :-/

My rough calculation says that it's 170 miles.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/453480602.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

About time I had a decent e-wang :p

Looks like I have a good chance of getting a new internship placement at a company here in Stockholm. They make kids games, but atleast I'd get to work with real 3D and make textures. The place I work at now don't make very visually interesting games. We make webbrowser mmo games, like this (http://www.fastandfuriousfig.com/PublicPages/News.aspx) game. I'm not into that type of games, their goal as a company is "we want to be like bigpoint.com". Inspiring!

There are many reasons why I don't like being there, primarily is the financial part. We do not get paid for internship work, and live of student loans. As of now I have to ride the subway 30 minutes, and then take a train to Upsala which takes 40 minutes. It's expensive as hell that last train is. 500kr (£40) for 10 tickets to be loaded onto my ticket-card. The subway card lasts half a year though and is relatively cheap for students.

Another big reason is that I'm not learning anything there. The internship is 7 months long, 30 consecutive weeks. In previous classes it's been split into two periods, but the companies have requested one long period instead. Which is great if your not stuck at some dead end place like I am :p

So what's the point of working at a place where I have to pay to be able to work there and I'm not learning anything?

I've never quit a job before, so I'm not looking forward to it. They seem to think I love it there :rolleyes:. The catch is that I'm the only person they got who knows how to do stuff in 3D, so they are very dependent on me for content. They'll probably get very sad and hate me. Eh-hehehehe.

We've bought a bat detector and tonight we spotted some bats with it :)

Good job there.

We've bought a bat detector and tonight we spotted some bats with it :)

I detect bats all the time on summer nights with just my eyes.

Q3DM7 isn't dangerous.
Though Q3DM17 is (what with the void and all).My point was they're "popular FPS maps that might be interesting in paintball", I don't know when you all decided to be suicidal about it. :p

Oh I agree. Q3DM17 would be very interesting as a paintball arena, just a little fatal.

I don't think many FPS maps have enough cover points for paintball.

One of my all-time favourite DM maps is UT's DM-Peak.

PS3 + PSP + Remote Play = AWESOME

Especially the fact that I can connect to my PS3 from any wifi hotspot in the world. No wait, especially the fact that I can do that AND use my Xbox as a UPnP Media Server so I can watch all my films and TV shows from anywhere is the world. It's a bit too good, actually. I'm yet to try it out in a real world situation, so I expect some uberfail but nevertheless it's AWESOME.

edit: Also, today, I made my first worthwhile contribution to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting). I added the paragraph about Monkey Island; how dare they omit it?!

Shouldn't it be Wikipædia? Grumble, moan.

My DSi just arrived. :cool:
It be sexy. :cool:

Now I have to pick up a game for it. I don't know which to buy yet, but I'll figure that out at the store. No poll this time, sorry. :P

Shouldn't it be Wikipædia? Grumble, moan.

We generally replace letters that are no longer in our alphabet with ones that are. :p

We generally replace letters that are no longer in our alphabet with ones that are. :p

Heathen !

Shouldn't that be Hæthen? Or is that just false etymology?

Shouldn't that be Hæthen? Or is that just false etymology?*face palm*

*face palm*

Hehe .

Got Chrono Trigger DS. :cool::cool::cool:

Was gonna get Chinatown Wars, but it's not out here yet, apparently. :p

*face palm*

Fæc palm?

Argh, that's one letter short of the character limit... I guess it's face palm after all. :(

I have a bowl of popcorn.


Fæc palm?

Palming fæces is not a positive thing.

Shouldn't it be Wikipædia? Grumble, moan.

Using unicode characters in domain names is definitely a good plan. Nothing can go wrong with that.

Using unicode characters in domain names is definitely a good plan. Nothing can go wrong with that.

Agræd. Now, how do we go about getting it changed?

Presumably for wikipedia we can just go to the URL and edit it. Nobody who disagrees would be able to find it.

I can't find an "edit" link in my address bar.

I've been insured for a car.

So now I can actually drive. Tis going well so far.

Also, Happy Birthday to Paul.

Someone needs to buy up wikipædia.org ;p

EDIT: Damn, some ******* beat me to it. http://wikipædia.org/

I want to buy a car, but I haven't the money.

I haven't the money to do anything, actually.

Vicipædia (http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_prima)?

Vicipædia (http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_prima)?

The scary part is how much I can read (or guess) of that.

I want to buy a car, but I haven't the money.

I haven't the money to do anything, actually.This is a positive thing?

It is for the environment.

The scary part is how much I can read (or guess) of that.It kinda reads like italian.

The scary part is how much effort probably went into that. :p

It kinda reads like italian.

The scary part is how much effort probably went into that. :p

It is... That's a massive amount of time that could have been spent doing something useful. And not like regular time that could have been spent doing something useful, which is mostly a lie -- you can't actually do useful things during every idle minute. We're not computers and can't run a low-priority background task. But that, that was voluntary work these lunatics did to create an entirely pointless thing. And not like regular work to create entirely pointless things -- that I'm in favour of. That's what art is. No, this is a cold, clinical pointless thing with no artistic value. What possible motivation did they have for doing that? Why did they not, instead of doing that, do volunteer work for a local charity and meet people and expand their horizons and make the world a better place? What possible reason did they have to instead waste their time creating an entire encyclopædia in a dead language? Who did they think would benefit from that?

I'm assistant manager of Maplin Chester and have just bought a TomTom GO 940 Live.

I'm assistant manager of Maplin Chester and have just bought a TomTom GO 940 Live.I assume this is ironic?

I just saw Ray Bradbury give a speech! :)

I assume this is ironic?

Please pick a question and answer it appropriately:


If you had a car wouldn't you like a TomTom and to be assistant manager of something?

If you were assistant manager of something wouldn't you like a TomTom and a car?

If you had a TomTom wouldn't you like a car and to assistant manager of something?

I just saw Ray Bradbury give a speech! :)
i guess it's kind of sad/funny/i don't know that every time i hear about ray bradbury i'm like "heh, i thought he was dead"

same thing with john updike, up until recently of course

Please pick a question and answer it appropriately:


If you had a car wouldn't you like a TomTom and to be assistant manager of something?

If you were assistant manager of something wouldn't you like a TomTom and a car?

If you had a TomTom wouldn't you like a car and to assistant manager of something?
well sure, but I assumed, given the wording, that it was something more than just "I'm an assistant manager now and have a tomtom". obviously I could easily be reading too much into the comment, but the wording simply sounded more significant than just that.

I've finally sorted out work for when I graduate from uni in June - I'm staying on at Loughborough for another three years to do a PhD :D

Good gawd, 66% discount on the Orange Box (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/469/) this weekend! (although I doubt anyone doesn't have it by now) That makes each game cost €2.

I love Valve.

It was all factual. I'm now assistant manager of Chester, having been accepted for the job a few days ago. It's a promotion. I'm not actually in the store yet, though! They need to hire someone to replace me. And the TomTom Go 940 Live should be coming tomorrow. I just mentioned that because I'm excited, and if anyone else has a modern TomTom we can talk technical stuff about them.

The question is, how will the TomTom find its way to my door? Does it have a TomTom of its own or has it some clever method of pressing its own buttons or synthesizing a voice using text-to-speech and triggering its voice commands?

ah ok, well congrats to you on all that, matty.

It was all factual. I'm now assistant manager of Chester, having been accepted for the job a few days ago.
The store or the town?

Since you're assistant top dog or thereabouts, can you get me discount solar panels and stuff?

I await a PM full of managerial discount codes. Muchos gracias, amigo. ;)

Moreover, congratulations! (It appears I neglected to congratulate you in my response to Aku).

I found "Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy" on vinyl for 16kr (~ £1.3), so I had to get it.

It's the first piece of music I've bought since... 1997, which was Aquas first album :cool:

I am a big Aqua fan :cool:

How do you revoke someone's OD access? ;)

It was all factual. I'm now assistant manager of Chester, having been accepted for the job a few days ago. It's a promotion. I'm not actually in the store yet, though! They need to hire someone to replace me. And the TomTom Go 940 Live should be coming tomorrow. I just mentioned that because I'm excited, and if anyone else has a modern TomTom we can talk technical stuff about them.

The question is, how will the TomTom find its way to my door? Does it have a TomTom of its own or has it some clever method of pressing its own buttons or synthesizing a voice using text-to-speech and triggering its voice commands?
Can you explain to me why Maplins Wimbledon doesn not have any torches to sell?

I spent a couple of hours in a dark flooded cellar in wimbledon today and a good torch would have been just super.

How do you revoke someone's OD access? ;)

Yes, it was so awesome that I just didn't need any other music for twelve years :p

ah ok, well congrats to you on all that, matty.

Thanks :)

The store or the town?

The store. I 0wn the town.

Since you're assistant top dog or thereabouts, can you get me discount solar panels and stuff?

I await a PM full of managerial discount codes. Muchos gracias, amigo. ;)

Moreover, congratulations! (It appears I neglected to congratulate you in my response to Aku).

No. Thanks :)

Can you explain to me why Maplins Wimbledon doesn not have any torches to sell?

I spent a couple of hours in a dark flooded cellar in wimbledon today and a good torch would have been just super.

There is a light shortage in that area at the moment so they are banned.

Muchos gracias, amigo. ;)

The correct way to say it is "Muchas gracias". :p

I get to go to the Excalibur Competition this weekend. For those that don't know (which is probably all of you), that's an inter-county fencing competition. 12 counties submit 6 teams (Men's and Women's Foil, Epee and Sabre), each with 3 fencers. I get to be on the Cornwall Men's Foil team.

Basically, I go to Bath for 33 foil matches over two days. Hmm... mabye that isn't so positive.

The correct way to say it is "Muchas gracias". :p

I bent my wookiee.

I get to go to the Excalibur Competition this weekend. For those that don't know (which is probably all of you), that's an inter-county fencing competition. 12 counties submit 6 teams (Men's and Women's Foil, Epee and Sabre), each with 3 fencers. I get to be on the Cornwall Men's Foil team.

Basically, I go to Bath for 33 foil matches over two days. Hmm... mabye that isn't so positive.

If you don't win, on your losing bout, could you rip off your mask and shout "Rats! Foiled again!", please?

Can a tin foil?

I know I'm like a Valve marketer, but Left 4 Dead is free to try today (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2465/) (and 40% off to buy) and I'm always looking for new people to help me kill zombies. :p

hit me up once in a while, sup, and I'll likely join you in zombie slaying. and my friend Taddar is also available nearly constantly if you want to talk to him as well (friends of friends on XFire would be best, likely).

also, a positive event: my wife bought me a Stevie Ray Vaughn CD, apparently. I quite like his music and am enjoying said CD. :)

If only my PC could run modern games. :(

How old is it? I got my now 6-year-old PC (albeit with 3 year old graphics card) to run L4D very successfully on low.

My graphics card is a GeForce 2.

As I said to SupSuper when he suggested I play it on low settings: "Not if I want to enjoy it. It's all about seeing the gore in full detail for me... it spurs me on to do more damage (and sometimes take more)."

:p

Well, having played HL2 on a geforce4 mx 440 for a long time I have to say Valve do a good job at making things look good even on older hardware.

But no, the Geforce 2 definitely won't cut it. :p

I get to go to the Excalibur Competition this weekend. For those that don't know (which is probably all of you), that's an inter-county fencing competition. 12 counties submit 6 teams (Men's and Women's Foil, Epee and Sabre), each with 3 fencers. I get to be on the Cornwall Men's Foil team.

Basically, I go to Bath for 33 foil matches over two days. Hmm... mabye that isn't so positive.

Hmm. If you see someone named James-Robert Sherlock say hello, I work with him. Don't say you and I are both part of a secret society.

My graphics card is a GeForce 2.

As I said to SupSuper when he suggested I play it on low settings: "Not if I want to enjoy it. It's all about seeing the gore in full detail for me... it spurs me on to do more damage (and sometimes take more)."

:p
Ah. Oh well.

My graphics card is a GeForce 2.

As I said to SupSuper when he suggested I play it on low settings: "Not if I want to enjoy it. It's all about seeing the gore in full detail for me... it spurs me on to do more damage (and sometimes take more)."
Is there such thing as a GeForce 0? If so, you could divide the GeForce 2 by it to get a GeForce ∞.

No, the GeForce would cancel out.

My GeForce cancels out anyway. It's in the nature of the hardware. :(

lolololol

Time for a new PC, Stef. Stop buying crap and start saving. You have Killing Floor and Plants Vs. Zombies coming up very soon on Steam. Killing Floor is based in Britain.

My good graphics card broke a while ago so I had to downgrade as I can't afford a new one. If I'm buying a new card I'd rather wait until I can afford a whole new kit, to be honest.

I think my card will handle Plants Vs. Zombies... :p

You could regrade to an upgrade which is downgraded from your current grade.

I've got a new laptop :D 15" 2.6GHz MacBook Pro.

Unfortunately it was bought to replace my PC which as it turns out is not sufficiently quick to run my final year project. So Windows will be going on it very soon. :(

I've got a new laptop :D 15" 2.6GHz MacBook Pro.

Unfortunately it was bought to replace my PC which as it turns out is not sufficiently quick to run my final year project. So Windows will be going on it very soon. :(Are you on a 4 year course? I thought you were a year ahead of me.

Are you on a 4 year course? I thought you were a year ahead of me.
4 year Masters course. Graduating in July. Then doing another 3 years PhD.

4 year Masters course. Graduating in July. Then doing another 3 years PhD.Guess that's a bit similar to me then... 3 year BSc then a 1 year MPhil followed by a 3 year PhD (but the Masters is tied to the PhD). I'm also graduating in July but that's for the BSc.

Guess that's a bit similar to me then... 3 year BSc then a 1 year MPhil followed by a 3 year PhD (but the Masters is tied to the PhD). I'm also graduating in July but that's for the BSc.
Sounds fun! Good luck with that. I'm hopefully graduating with an MEng, it seems that you can do MEng's as undergrad courses, whereas most other masters degrees need to be done as postgrad courses.

If you don't win, on your losing bout, could you rip off your mask and shout "Rats! Foiled again!", please?

Doesn't really work that way, though that would have been very tempting to do on an annoying defeat. Mostly, I just screamed in annoyance.


Hmm. If you see someone named James-Robert Sherlock say hello, I work with him. Don't say you and I are both part of a secret society.

Name isn't familiar.

So I got a new harddisk.

Well, I say "I". By that I mean I got home one day and my computer case was unbolted and a third hard disk had magically popped up in my computer. According to my dad, "it was on discount". Also now my DVD drive doesn't work because there's not enough power cables. Sometimes I feel like I live in a sitcom.

Anyways, positive things. Erm, I now have 1TB of disk space. It's... not as awesome as it sounded a few years ago. Much more fun to mention though.

Recently I had to reinstall Windows (after I had killed my previous installation by trying to patch some DLLs to make Vista skins work on XP :p) and noticed that several programs suddenly didn't want to install and aborted with MD5 or CRC errors.

One of them was Battlefield 2 and I thought that my disk had been scratched too much.
I decided to download an ISO via Bittorrent, then another one and then a third one.
All three were corrupted and failed to install.

In the end, I found out that one of my RAM modules was faulty and delivered errors in Memtest86.
I went to the shop and exchanged them and now I have another 4 months of warranty.
Positive. Yay!

Recently I had to reinstall Windows (after I had killed my previous installation by trying to patch some DLLs to make Vista skins work on XP http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/tongue.gif) and noticed that several programs suddenly didn't want to install and aborted with MD5 or CRC errors.
You should be so lucky, I've only had BSoDs coming from RAM problems (which in turn ****ed up the HDD somehow, meaning I had to buy new ones of both of those)

So I got a new harddisk.

Well, I say "I". By that I mean I got home one day and my computer case was unbolted and a third hard disk had magically popped up in my computer. According to my dad, "it was on discount". Also now my DVD drive doesn't work because there's not enough power cables. Sometimes I feel like I live in a sitcom.

Anyways, positive things. Erm, I now have 1TB of disk space. It's... not as awesome as it sounded a few years ago. Much more fun to mention though.

Yeah 1 TB isn't awesome at all but I'd still strangle a man to death in cold blood for it:p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4c0H4E60tk

Woo.

http://gizmodo.com/5018990/lego-secret-vault-contains-all-sets-in-history

Uber-woo.

Only 3 more exams left!

Only 0 more exams left!! :p

Sat my last uni exam back in January, we just do final year project for the summer semester.

Only 2 more exams left!

Only 11 A2 exams left!
Oh ****... that's bad.

England won a Test match. It's been a while.

England 1st inns 377 (Bopara 143, Swann 63no, Edwards 6/92)
W.Indies 1st inns 152 (Onions 5/38, Swann 3/16)
W.Indies 2nd inns (following on) 256 (Nash 81, Ramdin 61, Swann 3/39)
Engand 2nd inns 32 for 0

http://content.cricinfo.com/engvwi2009/content/story/403574.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4c0H4E60tk

Woo.

Very

http://gizmodo.com/5018990/lego-secret-vault-contains-all-sets-in-history

Uber-woo.

cool.

Well, I say "I". By that I mean I got home one day and my computer case was unbolted and a third hard disk had magically popped up in my computer. According to my dad, "it was on discount". Also now my DVD drive doesn't work because there's not enough power cables. Sometimes I feel like I live in a sitcom.

your dad owns

Right, this is weird but potentially great... I'll make it as simple to write read as possible.

We had a Pipex phone line and internet connection. In order to qualify for the internet connection we had to have a Pipex phone line (or at least, before Pipex bought out Bulldog we had to have a Bulldog phone line).

A few weeks ago we phoned BT and asked to switch back to them. They said that would be fine and they'd handle the takeover so we could just sit back and relax. All good.

Yesterday our line was switched. I phoned up O2 to get broadband off them (awesome deal, by the way, especially if you're an O2 customer) and they confirmed that the line was now a BT line. I went ahead with the order but it will take 6-10 days to become active.

Now, if a Pipex phone line is required for Pipex broadband and I'm on a BT phone line but still have the internet in the interim between now and having O2 broadband, that's a positive event, right?

BUT HOW CAN THIS BE? Am I now getting free internet? The guy at Pipex said nobody actually owns Bulldog broadband anymore, so could I be on unlicensed, free internet which is legal on account of a loophole? Should I consider cancelling my O2 broadband order and try to just leech internets from the ether? The flipside of this conundrum is that Bulldog/Pipex will probably still try to charge me (they charged me for 3 months of usage in a house we'd moved out of last time we moved, for example).

This post has confused me. Someone clear it all up for me and let me know something. Thanks.

here's a cleared up version: "FREE INTERNET! WOO!"

I don't really know if it works this way over there, but companies have a tendency of charging the month in advance, so the last payment you made covers for the remaining of your current billing cycle, so even if your phone line is cancelled I think the service remains functional until your billing cycle ends thus why you can still use the internet.

It's just a guess tho, it may not be the case.

Right, this is weird but potentially great... I'll make it as simple to write read as possible.

We had a Pipex phone line and internet connection. In order to qualify for the internet connection we had to have a Pipex phone line (or at least, before Pipex bought out Bulldog we had to have a Bulldog phone line).

A few weeks ago we phoned BT and asked to switch back to them. They said that would be fine and they'd handle the takeover so we could just sit back and relax. All good.

Yesterday our line was switched. I phoned up O2 to get broadband off them (awesome deal, by the way, especially if you're an O2 customer) and they confirmed that the line was now a BT line. I went ahead with the order but it will take 6-10 days to become active.

Now, if a Pipex phone line is required for Pipex broadband and I'm on a BT phone line but still have the internet in the interim between now and having O2 broadband, that's a positive event, right?

BUT HOW CAN THIS BE? Am I now getting free internet? The guy at Pipex said nobody actually owns Bulldog broadband anymore, so could I be on unlicensed, free internet which is legal on account of a loophole? Should I consider cancelling my O2 broadband order and try to just leech internets from the ether? The flipside of this conundrum is that Bulldog/Pipex will probably still try to charge me (they charged me for 3 months of usage in a house we'd moved out of last time we moved, for example).

This post has confused me. Someone clear it all up for me and let me know something. Thanks.
It depends if you think you can survive without the internet, if it's not what you think :p

ether
There is no ether (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment).

The time has come. I'm going to pitch Jump Leads to television networks.

The time has come. I'm going to pitch Jump Leads to television networks.
Awesome! Make sure you don't sell out now that you have no job and need money. ;)

Is JjAR going to be involved in it somehow?
Will the already existing issues going to be turned into an animated series (guest writers and such)?

Eugene is working on pitch material, and in an ideal world I'd want him over here working on the show. At the very least he'll get a co-creator credit. I owe him big time.

The time has come. I'm going to pitch Jump Leads to television networks.

That's great! I really hope it goes well and all that. It seems very tough getting a show accepted though, you better have some pro strategies.

Also be careful to not sign away any rights, companies always try to get you to do this.

What effect would this have on the comic?

Only 2 more exams left!
Make that none. Booyah!

BUT HOW CAN THIS BE? Am I now getting free internet?

Sounds like the BT line you've been switched to already has broadband provided from O2 or another company. You might be able to figure out which one based on the IP address you are allocated. Perhaps whoever used to have that phone line will get the bill for what you're using now. :p Although, the company might be able to see that the internet is being switched to O2 and let O2 take care of it.

Alright, last day at work! No more making banners and icons.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/474090792.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Apparently the first 14 days will be a bit up and down, speed-wise, while they make sure I'm getting as many internets per second as possible. Considering I have only had my router on for about an hour I'm quite pleased with the current speeds.

Unfortunately the O2 router is a bit too dumbed down, even for me, so setting up a WDS between that and my Netgear badboy won't be easy :(

WDS? Is it a Thompson? You just need to know where to look.

www.beusergroup.co.uk

Join us on IRC.

Yeah, it's a Thomson. I found the WDS setting but it's not picking up my Netgear router as an AP.

I may have to reset the Netgear and start from scratch but it'll have to wait until Sunday evening/Monday as I'm catching a train in about an hour.

I'll join you on IRC then. :)

What effect would this have on the comic?

None, although in an ideal world we'll all be writing the comic and a TV show at the same time.

And leprechauns?

My uni just closed for a week due to the swine lurgy. I really wasn't in the mood for a week of lessons :D

Is JjAR going to be involved in it somehow?

It is animated and JjAR will be drawing it. It will be released, as it is now, 10 frames a week. That's about a second of new footage.

WDS? Is it a Thompson? You just need to know where to look.

www.beusergroup.co.uk

Join us on IRC.

I got told off for being an O2 user and everyone refused to help me.

Our cat-to-be:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs005.snc1/4158_106581279697_693139697_2699509_5212879_n.jpg

Awwww :)

And I don't even like cats.

Too tempting not to caption it (even though I hate lolcats).

Too tempting not to caption it (even though I hate lolcats).

Awwww, she takes after her daddy :D

I'm almost tempted to photoshop her eyes together into a line..... but I have work to do :p

I'm almost tempted to photoshop her eyes together into a line..... but I have work to do :pI don't have work and would do that myself but I think I would probably puke :p

I know it's not quite what you were thinking, but in lieu of anything better to do I did this:

I know it's not quite what you were thinking, but in lieu of anything better to do I did this:

Similar, but so the black bit is like the blue of her eyes, and the red line black like the pupil.

Similar, but so the black bit is like the blue of her eyes, and the red line black like the pupil.

Yeah, I know. I was just being a bit lazy when I did it. Meh. She's too cute for me to care! :D

Looks like my kitten!

(Hey, I just realised, I still haven't posted any pictures of them...)

Pics or it didn't happen.

First proper A level exam of the last set of exams is over.
Which is good, because I don't much like the Differential Equations module.

I'm yet to learn differential equations. From what I've heard they're scary.

I'm yet to learn differential equations. From what I've heard they're scary.

They're equations with derivatives in them (that's the whole dy/dx thing).
Basically, it's lots and lots of calculus.

In fact, the majority of the A Level Maths and Further Maths course is just lots of calculus.

I'm yet to learn differential equations. From what I've heard they're scary.
That's why engineers invented P-space. You turn those hideous equations into nice polynomials involving P (or s, or whatever). It does rather make your head asplodey if you think about it too much though.

Too tempting not to caption it (even though I hate lolcats).
hey, great, **** you

I'm yet to learn differential equations. From what I've heard they're scary.Well it depends a lot on the equation: differential equations run the gamut from "pretty trivial if you know basic calculus" to "WHAT", depending on how they're composed.

But for a quick, simple taster, consider this:

dy/dx = y

Basically this states "whatever the function y(x) is, its derivative is equal to itself". Now, what function has that property?

--- SPOILERS ---

e^x, of course (to be specific, e^x times an arbitrary constant, as the differential of A.e^x is still e^x).

How about dy/dx = k.y, where k is constant? Again, we're falling back on the exponential function: e^(k.x) differentiated gives us k.e^(k.x). So, adding the arbitrary constant gives us an answer of A.k.e^(k.x).

--- END SPOILERS ---

It's all fine until trig functions get involved:

d^2y/dx^2 + dy/dx + 0.5y = e^x

y = e^-x . (A.cos(x) + B.sin(x)) + (2/5).e^x

Obvious. :p


Yes, the function e^x is important. All functions that are their own derivative are of the form A.e^x where A is any real number. e^x just happens to pass through the point (0,1).


I don't think I've ever actually been shown why e^ix = cos(x) + i.sin(x)... I've used the result a lot (it was needed for DE and was covered a bit in Further Pure 2), but I can't recall ever been shown where it came from.

I don't think I've ever actually been shown why e^ix = cos(x) + i.sin(x)... I've used the result a lot (it was needed for DE and was covered a bit in Further Pure 2), but I can't recall ever been shown where it came from.

Well for starters you can use Maclaurin/Taylor series.

Well for starters you can use Maclaurin/Taylor series.

And I've been shown that. But that was more of a "Hey, this does work after all" than it was a derivation.


Edit: Although actually, looking at that stuff. It does look very much like a derivation.

PLEASE, SOMEBODY MAKE A MATH THREAD AND SPLIT IT ALL OFF! MODERATORS?!

(Capitals)

I made one previously I thought for Vader and his maths problems?


Edit:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38400

Since this isn't specifically answering a question from Vader (it was just Paul going off topic as usual :p), it's not really suited to the Maths Help thread... probably better in 100%OT

PLEASE, SOMEBODY MAKE A MATH THREAD AND SPLIT IT ALL OFF! MODERATORS?!

(Capitals)

Oh relax, it's not like people can die of math overdose.

* dies *

* dies *

*reanimates*

It's OK, I posted maths in 100% OT so now people will gravitate towards that thread instead.

This is a positive event indeed!

Last day of college today.
That means no more Chemistry lectures, only two exams.

Yay.


Oh relax, it's not like people can die of math overdose.

You can never have too much Maths!

Project Trico;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF3fED8EXl4

You can never have too much Maths!
Get out.

In case anyone still hasn't seen it yet: http://wolframalpha.com (remember it's still alpha, so it doesn't know everything yet).

I got the "Play" trophy in LittleBigPlanet. For those of you who don't know, that means I've "Aced" every level. That means I've done every level without taking a single hit. My adrenaline is still pumping from The Bunker.

**** YEAH!

In case anyone still hasn't seen it yet: http://wolframalpha.com (remember it's still alpha, so it doesn't know everything yet).I thought we were done with math in this thread. :p

In case anyone still hasn't seen it yet: http://wolframalpha.com (remember it's still alpha, so it doesn't know everything yet).

It's not 'still alpha'. Alpha is its name. It's just new.

I have two kittens.

I HAVE FOUR LIGHTS.





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This (http://kotaku.com/5269365/store-and-run-your-wii-games-on-a-hard-drive) is awesome. And yeah nothing stops you from installing games you borrowed/rented without having to purchase them. With the Wii barely ever getting good games this probably won't be a good thing.

I have two kittens.
I HAVE FOUR LIGHTS.
And I'm gonna get a second child. :)
It could become a New Year's Eve baby or a Christmas baby.

And I'm gonna get a second child. :)
It could become a New Year's Eve baby or a Christmas baby.

Gah! Two mini-bonz's!

REPENT! THE END IS NIGH!

THE HARBINGERS OF CHAOS ARE COMING! :eek:

..... ...... . . .

.. ....

****!

This (http://kotaku.com/5269365/store-and-run-your-wii-games-on-a-hard-drive) is awesome. And yeah nothing stops you from installing games you borrowed/rented without having to purchase them. With the Wii barely ever getting good games this probably won't be a good thing.
Damn pirates putting a bad name to Wii homebrew.

Also, that is SO OLD! It's amazing all the good sites have only picked up on it now.

http://www.lukewallin.co.uk/images/toms_cake2009.jpg

Yey.

Unfortunately we couldn't find any candles :(

Happy 6th Birthday! :p

I was excited by making a proper cake at any rate. Not something you do every day.

Unfortunately we couldn't find any candles :(

You can use Wii Sensor Bars instead. Wait, does it work that way around?

You can use Wii Sensor Bars instead. Wait, does it work that way around?yes. it does. and if it doesn't then it needs to from now on.

Ahhhh, that's the much-mentioned cake. Looks nice!

Anyway, that cake is great. It's so delicious and moist!

...

I could not help myself. :(

Anyway, that cake is great. It's so delicious and moist!

...

I could not help myself. :(so long as you didn't say it's a lie, the sin is forgivable :p ...and that cake looks disturbingly like the portal cake anyway....

Ahhhh, that's the much-mentioned cake. Looks nice!
Heh, yep.

...and that cake looks disturbingly like the portal cake anyway....

That was rather the idea :p

Me and some friends went to see Dylan Moran last night. I've never been to live comedy before, and I was a bit worried it might be just old reused material. But it truly exceeded all expectations. By the end our jaws and sides were hurting from laughter. :)

TVCatchup (http://www.tvcatchup.com) works in XBMC (http://xbmc.org) on Xbox now!

YEEEAAAAAHHH!!!

I don't even know whether any of you use XBMC but this is definitely excellent news.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3488/yesjdq.jpg

swivel chairs for nothing and Lightboxes for free.

swivel chairs for nothing and Lightboxes for free.

But no microwave ovens.

Damn, that thing is blinding me from the picture. :p

My RSS feeds are LEEET:

http://hbcapps.com/miight/crap/dump/fileoDphbs.png

swivel chairs for nothing and Lightboxes for free.

Very nice. Mine is wooden and has just a perspex disc in the middle which is illuminated.

I haven't used it in years, though. I am going through a thing right now... I don't think I should animate, or draw, or anything like that because I pretty much suck, so I guess I now have a lightbox doing nothing for eternity. :(

Convert to an interesting hamster cage base.

I received an email from Phones4U saying "if you're interested in being interviewed, please get in touch".

This is the closest I have come to finding a job in 6 months. Of course, I replied asking for an interview. It's a positive event, mostly; I'd have liked a job outside retail to be honest but this will facilitate me saving up for an engineering course. Ah well, needs must when the devil drives.

So today is the day I get my grade for my Maths BSc degree. I'd cocked up some of the exams, didn't think my project had gone very well and was certain that I'd got a 2-2. At best I thought I might get a 2-1, but it was unlikely.

I GOT A FIRST HOLY **** IT MUST BE A MISTAKE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT OH MY ****ING GOD YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

*crazy dance*

So today is the day I get my grade for my Maths BSc degree. I'd cocked up some of the exams, didn't think my project had gone very well and was certain that I'd got a 2-2. At best I thought I might get a 2-1, but it was unlikely.

I GOT A FIRST HOLY **** IT MUST BE A MISTAKE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT OH MY ****ING GOD YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

*crazy dance*

Sweet, nice one! I'm hoping for a first, but I think a 2:1 is on the cards. Only time will tell. I get my results in a fortnight.

So today is the day I get my grade for my Maths BSc degree. I'd cocked up some of the exams, didn't think my project had gone very well and was certain that I'd got a 2-2. At best I thought I might get a 2-1, but it was unlikely.

I GOT A FIRST HOLY **** IT MUST BE A MISTAKE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT OH MY ****ING GOD YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

*crazy dance*
if i knew what that meant i'd probably be happy for you

if i knew what that meant i'd probably be happy for you
UK University Degree grading goes as follows (percentages are for my uni, might be slightly different at others):

1st class degree = 70% or greater
2:1 (upper second class degree) = 60 - 69%
2:2 (second class degree) = 50 - 59%
3rd class degree = 40 - 49%
<40% = fail.

Ahahaha. That means I got 40-49% in my degree, despite getting good grades throughout. I swear someone sabotaged my work... it's not like I can do anything about it, though.

UK University Degree grading goes as follows (percentages are for my uni, might be slightly different at others):

1st class degree = 70% or greater
2:1 (upper second class degree) = 60 - 69%
2:2 (second class degree) = 50 - 59%
3rd class degree = 40 - 49%
<40% = fail.

Why is it nobody has ever explained it so clearly before?

It's nice to see the British education system never fails to make every simple fact needlessly complicated.

I always understood it.

I think if you don't get enough credits you can get a plain 'pass' mark too, even if the modules you do pass average above 70%. That confused me for a while because it was never explained -- because basically it never happens.

It's nice to see the British education system never fails to make every simple fact needlessly complicated.
That was the simplified version :p

All grade boundaries can be moved by up to ±3% at the discretion of the programme board each year (they rarely go up but will sometimes drop if it was a bit of a bad year)

And, all percentages are rounded to the nearest whole percentage before giving you the grade, so a 1st is technically 69.5% and above.


Edit:

Following on from Andrew's post, at my uni the following system is in place:

You have to get 100 credits or more to pass the year. Each module is typically worth 10 credits and you sit 12 modules per year (6 in each semester). BUT if you get less than 30% in two modules and pass all the others (so still get 100 credits) you fail the year - you can "soft fail" up to 20 credits, so by getting between 30 and 40%. Credits are only awarded for 40% and above, and you only get credits in multiples of 10 (so 40% in a module yields the same number of credits as 100%)

Its taken me four years to understand all of that :p

They give you a special degree if you can explain how you got the normal one.

The Swedish grading system is much simpler.
IG = fail
G = good
VG = very good
MVG = much very good

Which you get on a test is entirely up to the teachers.

I always understood it.

I think if you don't get enough credits you can get a plain 'pass' mark too, even if the modules you do pass average above 70%. That confused me for a while because it was never explained -- because basically it never happens.I've had modules that we had to complete, but which did not count towards the degree mark.

Also I've heard that at my uni the grade boundaries are at 59.5/69.5 etc

The Swedish grading system is much simpler.
IG = fail
G = good
VG = very good
MVG = much very good

Which you get on a test is entirely up to the teachers.

IG stands for... uh... "ingood?"

IG stands for... uh... "ingood?"no, it'd be "I GUD!" which is the standard level of grammatical skills among those receiving those grades :p

The Swedish grading system is much simpler.
IG = fail
G = good
VG = very good
MVG = much very good

Which you get on a test is entirely up to the teachers.Our grading system goes from 0 to 5 until you're a big boy. Then it goes from 0.0 to 20.0 (that's right, decimals!).

University teachers are free to not give a toss about standards though.

Also I've heard that at my uni the grade boundaries are at 59.5/69.5 etc

Technically the same at my uni because they round everything up/down to an integer percentage, so you can still technically get a first with 69.5%, since that gets rounded up to 70%.

The Austrian system is even simpler:

5 = fail
4 = almost fail
3 = bad
2 = good
1 = no one is that good

That's for most uni and upper school teachers/professors. :rolleyes:

I always understood it.

I think if you don't get enough credits you can get a plain 'pass' mark too, even if the modules you do pass average above 70%. That confused me for a while because it was never explained -- because basically it never happens.

I think that's what happened to me. I think they considered my final piece null and void. Apparently the 108 page hand-drawn storyboard I drew on paper with a pencil didn't count as actual work. Or something.

I'm so very, very bitter.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! My ping's been as low as 22ms before; I can't complain at 40ms considering I don't do anything which requires a low ping, really.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/495640775.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/495645528.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm going to miss this connection next year :(

Boo!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/491557498.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm going to miss this connection next year :(

8MB UP!? Jebus. Spread the joy, quit Bogarting all the uploads!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/495827052.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

hmmmmmmmmm.

I've now totally finished my degree :D :D Finally done after four years!

Next stop, PhD!

oooh. congrats!

This forum needs a "What are you speedtesting?" thread. :p

Passed my full driver's licence practical test. Even though it's booked for an hour, it only took me 40 minutes. It probably helped that I felt like the test was going to be harder than it actually is. I was a bit of a slow starter in the whole driving thing, most people take the full test when they're 17 or 18 here. My restricted licence would otherwise have expired next month, so I've saved myself from having to renew that.

Passed my full driver's licence practical test. Even though it's booked for an hour, it only took me 40 minutes. It probably helped that I felt like the test was going to be harder than it actually is. I was a bit of a slow starter in the whole driving thing, most people take the full test when they're 17 or 18 here. My restricted licence would otherwise have expired next month, so I've saved myself from having to renew that.
Psh - amateurs. I passed my driving test the day before my provisionary license expired :p (on the seventh attempt).

What happens over there if your provisional licence expires? Here you can stay provisional forever, as long as you keep renewing it on or before the expiry date (approximately every 2.5 years I think).

You get a 5 year prison sentence, or pay a £10,000 fine and do 500 hours of community service.

Next stop, PhD!...So seriously, the hell am I doing hanging around all these smart guys?

Seriously though, big congrats. To you too, Bloopy! And... uh, masses of speed-testing dudes!

What happens over there if your provisional licence expires? Here you can stay provisional forever, as long as you keep renewing it on or before the expiry date (approximately every 2.5 years I think).
Your provisional license is valid until you're 70 here, but when you do a theory test (which you must do, and pass, before sitting your practical driving test), that is only valid for 2 years. So if you take more than 2 years to pass your driving test you have to resit the theory test.
...So seriously, the hell am I doing hanging around all these smart guys?

Seriously though, big congrats. To you too, Bloopy! And... uh, masses of speed-testing dudes!

Cheers! Seems quite a few ODers have done or are doing/about to do PhD's.

And... uh, masses of speed-testing dudes!

It turns out I actually get about 11Mbps from a wired PC. My PC (which is connected via wifi) loses 1.5-2Mbps over the air.

http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1589880366.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I wonder what the PS3 gets...

Your provisional license is valid until you're 70 here, but when you do a theory test (which you must do, and pass, before sitting your practical driving test), that is only valid for 2 years. So if you take more than 2 years to pass your driving test you have to resit the theory test.

Oh? I seem to recall mine expired when I reached something like 21.
The 2 years between theory and practical is correct though.

It turns out I actually get about 11Mbps from a wired PC. My PC (which is connected via wifi) loses 1.5-2Mbps over the air.

http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1589880366.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I wonder what the PS3 gets...

Oh wow they have e-wang ranks now:rolleyes:

Yes. Suddenly my e-wang has gone from quite small to larger than average.

How big is your e-wang?

Cheers! Seems quite a few ODers have done or are doing/about to do PhD's.And to some the mere thought makes them go into murderous rages.

while you smart *******s are getting your PhD's lined up and your future millions counted out nice and clear, I got myself a car today. managed an '09 Chevy Cobalt 4-door for only $250 a month. definitely not a bad deal given that I got a 5-year 100,000 mile warranty for it as well and it's got all the nice features I don't need at all :p

I also found out my mom is a friggin shark when it comes to dealing with car salesmen. glad to have her along this morning :D

now I just need to settle the rest of my stuff for college and I can start on my not-PhD.

while you smart *******s are getting your PhD's lined up and your future millions counted out nice and clear, I got myself a car today. managed an '09 Chevy Cobalt 4-door for only $250 a month. definitely not a bad deal given that I got a 5-year 100,000 mile warranty for it as well and it's got all the nice features I don't need at all :p

I also found out my mom is a friggin shark when it comes to dealing with car salesmen. glad to have her along this morning :D

now I just need to settle the rest of my stuff for college and I can start on my not-PhD.
did you buy it or lease it

did you buy it or lease itlease I guess? not used to thinking about it in that term, but I'm definitely not rich enough to buy it out-right.

lease I guess? not used to thinking about it in that term, but I'm definitely not rich enough to buy it out-right.
well you can buy a car on monthly payments. lease means that the dealership owns it and you're just paying money to borrow it from them for x number of years

We have our kitten. Pictures will be uploaded later tonight :D

Oh right, theory test certificate, that's what I meant to say. Sorry.

Graduated. \o/

Now Team17 is in a position to legally hire me.

Congratulations.
Nice av too.

Cyberpostgradow! Congratulations :)

Also: Our kitten, Poppy (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=115821&id=693139697&l=036c53e98f).

I'm pretty sure you don't need to have a facebook account to view these but let me know if I'm wrong. Not that I imagine anyone's that fussed about kitten pics.

Also: Our kitten, Poppy (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=115821&id=693139697&l=036c53e98f).D'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwww *inhale*aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Edit: I really need to put up more pictures of Sable. She's a big ol' oaf now even though she was only a lil' bebby like that one a half-hour ago, but I do have plenty of pictures from across her youth.

well you can buy a car on monthly payments. lease means that the dealership owns it and you're just paying money to borrow it from them for x number of yearsah. damn vague definition of leasing :p

well I guess I actually bought it then.

Cyberpostgradow! Congratulations :)

Also: Our kitten, Poppy (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=115821&id=693139697&l=036c53e98f).

I'm pretty sure you don't need to have a facebook account to view these but let me know if I'm wrong. Not that I imagine anyone's that fussed about kitten pics.The sheer zombifying cuteness. :3

I have a skin on Gmail that changes according to the weather and it's switched to a lightning theme, which is quite clearly the best (although there isn't any thunder/lightning here).

All the fun of terrifying thunderstorms without the terror?

Whatever shall they think of next! Some form of horror-inducing talkie film?

All the fun of terrifying thunderstorms without the terror?

Whatever shall they think of next! Some form of horror-inducing talkie film?oh pish posh. why would you want to go see a talkie like that when you've got perfectly good ghost stories to tell around a nice warm fire?

I have a skin on Gmail that changes according to the weather and it's switched to a lightning theme, which is quite clearly the best (although there isn't any thunder/lightning here).

Tree?

Yes, it's clearly the only theme anyone should use. I don't know why there are people who don't.

Tree?

Yes, it's clearly the only theme anyone should use. I don't know why there are people who don't.I dunno I like Beach since it's more noticable and changes with the weather too.

I've been using Phantasea. I like the understatedness, and frankly didn't bother to check the rest of them out. Changing with the weather sounds canny nice, like.

I dunno I like Beach since it's more noticable and changes with the weather too.

I like the subtlety of Tree. Sky is a good background colour. I don't want to notice the theme; I want to notice my email.

I still use default :-/

I use Outlook but I have a bespoke Firefox Persona of zombieness.

These are really positive events, are they? :p

Convert, Stef, afore ye wickedness affects ye!

Convert what? :p

My Outlook receives all my email from all my gmail/googlemail/etc accounts and all my RSS feeds. Forefox is DA BOM.

I use Terminal. I like green on black. I tried to set a user CSS so all sites would be green on black once but got annoyed because all the images wouldn't fit.

My Outlook receives all my email from all my gmail/googlemail/etc accounts

That's just sick. You should be using the Google Mail web-based interface for great justice.

But Outlook minimises to the system tray and I can ignore it unless I want to do stuff. Plus I like the Send To feature in the Windows context menu and I don't know of a way to set that up for Gmail.

I appreciate what you're saying but I am not of the opinion that everything should be done in a browser. Called me old fashioned if you like.

I appreciate what you're saying but I am not of the opinion that everything should be done in a browser.I'll second that (although I use The Bat!, which I consider to be superior to any desktop e-mail client I've seen).