shadowmoon and plasma are really duking it out for "elitist idiot" statusMaybe we were so hard on him he's considered it a role model.

I'll take his current attitude of being mildly irritating over his previous attitude of being unbelievably stupid any day of the week, thank you. :p

Ahahaha.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=676581&postcount=1

I dont get reply,I'll DIE!:(

now.....do I say "you may live" in response or do I just ignore it....

For those who have seen this post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677147&postcount=123) by minute55 but only after I edited it, this was the offending image. Be warned, it will cause ocular explosions.

http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zerowornap9.png

For those who have seen this post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677147&postcount=123) by minute55 but only after I edited it, this was the offending image. Be warned, it will cause ocular explosions.

http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zerowornap9.pnggod....I saw that before he edited it and then again after.....it was in desperate need of this third edit even given that it was a thumbnail.

and I'm in desperate need of another pass time

edit: what the hell does "break the fourth wall" have to do with anything in that thread much less his or my posts?!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677175&postcount=1234567890

edit: what the hell does "break the fourth wall" have to do with anything in that thread much less his or my posts?!

He's probably suggesting that zeor's next action be to break the fourth wall.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=677203#post677203

I... I..... I can't take this guy anymore.

Help I'm spontaneously combusting. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677186&postcount=134)

Being watched should definitely keep you from posting IMG tags, too.

Help I'm spontaneously combusting. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677186&postcount=134)

Being watched should definitely keep you from posting IMG tags, too.

Corrected that for you.

Help I'm spontaneously combusting. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677186&postcount=134)

Being watched banned should definitey definitely keep you from posting IMG tags, too.

I've done it properly.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677220&postcount=135

*slaps forehead*

He did sort of ask for permission, where I said that I wasn't at all up to doing anything too complicated, but I might be interested in doing a quick one-off joke to help him deal with his little black hole thing or whatever, then he's all LOL COULDN'T RESIST NOW OUR THREADS ARE THE SAME THING. :D

I think the most efficient solution here is to have myself just pick him up and shove him back through the drawing board. I haven't instated a rule that says I can't enter a command myself. :p

You could always try and work it in to one of the other commands, like as a bad side effect? Unfurling the crumpled up bit of paper causes him to get sucked through the board, for example.

Edit: You mean, a good side effect.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677220&postcount=135

*slaps forehead*

He did sort of ask for permission, where I said that I wasn't at all up to doing anything too complicated, but I might be interested in doing a quick one-off joke to help him deal with his little black hole thing or whatever, then he's all LOL COULDN'T RESIST NOW OUR THREADS ARE THE SAME THING. :D

I think the most efficient solution here is to have myself just pick him up and shove him back through the drawing board. I haven't instated a rule that says I can't enter a command myself. :p

Someone asked mine to 'go through a portal into Zero's CYOA'. Can't recall who. Maybe I should pop in, grab Alex, then leave and use him as a shopping list or something.

Or maybe I can't be arsed.

Yeah I am kinda annoyed because you had a really funny and original idea there and now everyones copying it instead of doing their own thing but I think it's pretty audacious to intrude on your own dang thread

Someone asked mine to 'go through a portal into Zero's CYOA'. Can't recall who. Maybe I should pop in, grab Alex, then leave and use him as a shopping list or something.Well, just so you know, supposing, hypothetically, that you could be arsed, you wouldn't be getting any objections from me. ;)

Edit: You mean, a good side effect.



Someone asked mine to 'go through a portal into Zero's CYOA'. Can't recall who. Maybe I should pop in, grab Alex, then leave and use him as a shopping list or something.

Or maybe I can't be arsed.that would be absolutely awesome.

but just in case, I went and requested that metal alex be removed by shoving him through the drawing board :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677322&postcount=29

UGH!!

CLOSE DOOR BEFORE ANOTHER CROSSOVER HAPPENS.

Seriously.It was funny when 1 person did it,(metal alex)but now it's getting annoying.This is about the first sensible post of his I've seen. :p (although I liked AT's crossover)

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=677322&postcount=29You, my friend, are my hero.

You, my hero, are my friend. That was awesome.

Well, the lesson I learned was that if they insult you it's because they can and that you should not dare answering back. Not sure if this is what I was supposed to learn, but if you didn't know, the infraction system is pretty generic.

I think that the way it works is that if a mod says something with an offensive tone, calls you names and then you proceed to answer in the same style you get what is known as an "infraction for spamming", whilst if you literally spam the forums with irrelevant information you don't really get much of an infraction.
Not sure if this is working as intended, it's from my own experience.

Whatever Andrew or Thomas did, it must have been hilarious. Any chance of seeing it?

Whatever Andrew or Thomas did, it must have been hilarious. Any chance of seeing it?
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=677574#post677574

This post onwards, basically.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=677574#post677574

This post onwards, basically.Has to be said, "proper" is a hopelessly opaque name for a scheme, and accidentally wandering into one thinking I was going to have a proper (i.e. normal) game of Worms has scarred me for life.

my god....has yakuza never even HEARD of an online game? I mean, yeah, custom rules happen everywhere, but you'd think he'd realize that worms is no longer played hardly at all in any normal scheme.

I mean, if I didn't already know that and tried to play wormnet, all I would see is "shoppa" "proper" and other such and just click one randomly cause there was no alternative.

and his other comment about mods infracting cause you reply like they did, he sounds like me 4 years ago. I'm curious if he honestly thinks that andrew's post was anything remotely similar to the style of his own posts. I'd love to see a picture of him. I'm curious if he has the emo hair and black eye-liner to match his personality.

Doubt it, most emo-hair eye-liner people I've ever met tend to be quite quiet and polite.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=677574#post677574

This post onwards, basically.

I don't know what to say to that. Yakuza doesn't quite seem to get that if you insult people, they don't like you or agree with you, even if he made a good point.

Can't figure out why he keeps posting here if he hates everyone, either :-/

and his other comment about mods infracting cause you reply like they did, he sounds like me 4 years ago. I'm curious if he honestly thinks that andrew's post was anything remotely similar to the style of his own posts. I'd love to see a picture of him. I'm curious if he has the emo hair and black eye-liner to match his personality.
He's just spanish. From my experience, most of the spanish people I've met online are really angry people.
:p

Can't figure out why he keeps posting here if he hates everyone, either :-/which is why I refuse to show him any respect even when he DOES make a good point. obviously he's either just a troll or he's a lonely person in search of friends who's just too into himself to actually MAKE any. either way he can go make out with an exhaust pipe.

He posts to educate us and considers it his duty to overcome our ignorance in his quest. :p

But seriously, he doesn't want anyone here to like him. He just expects his points to be treated at least equally despite his history and the manner in which they are put. Which unfortunately just isn't the way things work around here. I guess you can tell from my constant defending of him, but I consider myself a friend of his. We've known each other for a very long time and I know he's not exactly what you would call a lonely soul in other online communities. Or offline, for that matter.

Which unfortunately just isn't the way things work around here.

Or anywhere? It's not usually what he has to say which gets on my nerves, but that he tends to phrase his points in a way which sounds so insulting to whoever he disagrees with.

He posts to educate us and considers it his duty to overcome our ignorance in his quest. :p

But seriously, he doesn't want anyone here to like him. He just expects his points to be treated at least equally despite his history and the manner in which they are put. Which unfortunately just isn't the way things work around here. I guess you can tell from my constant defending of him, but I consider myself a friend of his. We've known each other for a very long time and I know he's not exactly what you would call a lonely soul in other online communities. Or offline, for that matter.
Yeah, when it comes to knowledge about Worms and online communities he certainly knows a damn sight more than I do and I'd say that he's probably somewhere high up with being one of the best. He convinced me about stuff before in #worms when he argues in a calmer manner and I certainly respect his opinion.

But it's the way he says it. I just find it really difficult to look past. Even when he's right I sometimes can't take it seriously at all. Which is a shame.

Or anywhere? It's not usually what he has to say which gets on my nerves, but that he tends to phrase his points in a way which sounds so insulting to whoever he disagrees with.

Yup, that's the heart of the issue. Even if you excuse it in part because he's Spanish and in part because he's been around Worms for a really long time, he still crosses the line far too easily. I know that and he knows it, he even sometimes tries not to do it, although obviously he'd never admit it. But eventually a Plasma comes into the thread and it all goes to ****, heh.

Yeah, when it comes to knowledge about Worms and online communities he certainly knows a damn sight more than I do and I'd say that he's probably somewhere high up with being one of the best. He convinced me about stuff before in #worms when he argues in a calmer manner and I certainly respect his opinion.

But it's the way he says it. I just find it really difficult to look past. Even when he's right I sometimes can't take it seriously at all. Which is a shame.

To be honest, most of you guys give him enough of a chance and for the most part don't disregard his saner and more informed posts before even reading them. It's a decent status quo that keeps him on the safe side of getting banned and everyone else mildly entertained. But I guess for him to want to get involved and respected here, everyone would have to treat the contents of his posts this fairly, and that's just not going to happen on a large forum like this.


Edit: I'm a failure at circumventing language filters.

He's just spanish. From my experience, most of the spanish people I've met online are really angry people.
:pHe's spanish? That... explains a lot, actually.

He's just spanish. From my experience, most of the spanish people I've met online are really angry people.
:p
Yeah, the hot, arid climate must have boiled his cerebral matter.

ARGH. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=679085#post2097) Another thread derailment brought about by yakuza.

MAKE IT GO AWAY MOMMY. :(

Oh no, the thread is gonna get closed for the 45409458450th time.

yakuza owns but seriously why don't you just ban him already if you don't like him

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37824

that thread's about to make ME go m3ntal.....

Now, granted, my knowledge of Windows isn't that great, but I'd have thought TaskManager would do a pretty good job of showing current RAM usage...

and im not so sure that taskmanager does a good job with showing up the memory usage.

In his defense, that mostly depends on which version of Windows he's using. Windows 3.1, for instance, is rubbish at it.

Also, the RAM usage never seems to go down in XP (when you look at an individual app's usage). It only ever goes up. Maybe it's just me.

Best thread title ever?

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37838

Best thread title ever.

Which is why I use a mod that removes the restriction on the travel range towards the center.

Wouldn't that be considered cheating?

. No
Quick, someone tell me what kind of warped logic is he trying to pull here.

Quick, someone tell me what kind of warped logic is he trying to pull here.

"Your petty rules of morality and ethics do not apply to me, for I am a god!"

I dunno. It seems to be the axiom by which Plasma lives his life, and if you take that as an axiom then his answer does follow logically.

EDIT: that reminds me, is there a technical difference between morality and ethics, or are they just two words for the same thing?

Quick, someone tell me what kind of warped logic is he trying to pull here.

I suppose it's because of the purpose he uses that for. People who have tried to eradicate the Grox have run into the issue of having systems that are out of reach, which I doubt was intentional and is probably an effect of the slightly random placement of systems. So it's more of something to overcome this limitation of the game.

EDIT: that reminds me, is there a technical difference between morality and ethics, or are they just two words for the same thing?

I think there is in some contexts (ethics involves committees), but not in general parlance.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=681245&postcount=7


...


HAHAHAHAA!

If you don't get it, the entire point in WormNAT2 is that you can host games in Worms: Armageddon even if you are behind a router and/or firewall and don't know how to or can't configure it.

Well, firewalls can still stop wormnat from working, all it does is bypass the need for port forwarding. Anything blocking WA from using the internet will still succeed.

Well, firewalls can still stop wormnat from working, all it does is bypass the need for port forwarding. Anything blocking WA from using the internet will still succeed.
Yes, but the post was about WormNAT not working, implying that the person cannot host (rather than WormNET not working, implying the person can't get onto WormNET at all). Moreover, the person mentions an event in ingame chat.

(I may have confused Health Crates with Barrels)I want to give him a lit stick of dynamite and a syringe of antibiotics and see which he chooses now....

LOL franpa

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37985

See post 36 onwards.

Rofl. Classic franpaism.

Hold on.

In my experience, killing explorer.exe kills the taskbar as well.

Or does 7 handle things differently?

You can always run WA from a desktop shortcut and later restart explorer.exe

Hold on.

In my experience, killing explorer.exe kills the taskbar as well.

Or does 7 handle things differently?

Pff, you ought to be able to operate a computer without a taskbar. Task Manager can do all that.

Oh good lord, look at the new name and slogan for [Team17.tk (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Team17)]...

Good lord, nobody knows how to customize an IPB forum logo.


...what?

Oh good lord, look at the new name and slogan for [Team17.tk (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Team17)]...
team17.tk is a good thing because it is an effective litmus test for telling if someone is worthless as a human being

I think I've just got interface poisoning...

5 years no patch !!!!!!

bad! and Online bugs!

A Network Notwork!!!! :p :p: p :p

new patch pleasee!!!! F*******G I***ts

When has "Idiots" been considered a swear word? Not from any culture or language I've ever come across... Unless there's another 5-letter swearword out there that begins in i and ends in t..

I was also unaware that f**king had that many letters. :P

The asterisks are masking out "cun", he's clearly having a go at the Apple generation.

The asterisks are masking out "cun", he's clearly having a go at the Apple generation.
Goddammit I was just about to crack the exact same joke. Stop reading my posts and then travelling back in time to post them before me! :mad::mad::mad:

The asterisks are masking out "cun", he's clearly having a go at the Apple generation.
for all the satisfaction of a real woman when you've got no one around

for all the satisfaction of a real woman when you've got no one aroundhttp://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan1.jpg
http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan2.jpg

HIGHLY NSFW!

http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan1.jpg
http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan2.jpg

HIGHLY NSFW!
What's not safe for work?
Watching those images or using that contraption? :D

Mummy, what does it do?

I don't think this is soda.

Mummy, what does it do?well, you see, little timmy; when a man and a woman get together, and the man is a disgusting pig......

http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan1.jpg
http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan2.jpg

HIGHLY NSFW!

That second picture really freaks me out and I'm not quite sure why

Or maybe I am

It just looks real disturbing

That second picture really freaks me out and I'm not quite sure why

Or maybe I am

It just looks real disturbing
it looks like some delicious candy to me

but maybe you're thinking of like a sea lamprey or something?

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=683301&postcount=5

...is this some elaborate way of calling Plasma gay?

If so, I approve.

I concur. Let's see more of this happening, please.

...is this some elaborate way of calling Plasma gay?

Gay and in love with an alleged child-molester.

I concur. Let's see more of this happening, please.

I thought I should do my bit while I'm back :)

so seeing as this is apparently a great joke I'm missing, can I be told who CoLoN is? :p

The author of that wiki entry about CoLoN is called "CheechLizard".
That should make you think about the significance of its content. :rolleyes:
http://worms2d.info/?title=People/CoLoN&action=history
http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan1.jpg
http://www.demonbaby.com/pics/japan/porn/vaginacan2.jpg

HIGHLY NSFW!
BTW, here's the complete blog entry about weird Japanese sex toys and other curiosities:
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2005/08/curiosities-from-japans-porno-shops.html

Fun! :)
And NSFW.

Edit:
And the sequel:
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/06/more-curiosities-from-japans-porno.html
Check out the "Plasma Sperm" microscope!

I hope this doesn't get me infracted...

Japan has never been so scary...

The author of that wiki entry about CoLoN is called "CheechLizard".

Cheech is a king among chavs. Everything he put on that wiki entry is 100% FACT and was verified by the FBI, CIA, MI5 and KGB.

Clearly I am the worst moderator ever.

Edit: I mean, I feel like I should be stopping people calling Plasma gay.

Edit2: Of course, that would make me a hypocrite.

Edit: I mean, I feel like I should be stopping people calling Plasma gay.plasma's involved. there was a law passed that absolves you of any modding responsibility if plasma is involved :p

Okay then.

You have to remember that it's for the greater good. You can't moderate what's right and wrong, you can just moderate posts to fit with what you think is right and wrong.

You have to remember that it's for the greater good. You can't moderate what's right and wrong, you can just moderate posts to fit with what you think is right and wrong.

What sel/volcadmin/whoever thinks is right and wrong :p

...which is that Plasma's a flaming queen.

I'm insulted.

Hooray !

for the sake of the thread I'm dropping it, but in this post:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=686047&postcount=107

is he not asking for evidence that I already provided? he told me to find a post where he wasn't being reasonable immediately after I provided him with that.

I can be a bit dense some times, so am I just being so here or something?

I've taken to treating yakuza as if his every post is intended to provoke a flame war. Seems to work.

PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I'M INTERESTING! EVERYONE LOOK OVER HERE! I'M REALLY COOL!

:rolleyes:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=686429&postcount=500

PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I'M INTERESTING! EVERYONE LOOK OVER HERE! I'M REALLY COOL!

:rolleyes:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=686429&postcount=500
this guy is going places

this guy is going placeswe could only be so lucky.

Lets hope that....but there are nothing to think a new worms for PC is in the making.

allah is coming for you, and will untimely rip you from your family making fear drip from your body... resistance is uselles valhalla awaits
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=689024&postcount=26

Woah. And just because the guy dared to expect a new worms for PC.
Allah can be a little too rough sometimes I guess.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=689024&postcount=26

Woah. And just because the guy dared to expect a new worms for PC.
Allah can be a little too rough sometimes I guess.
I could swear I'd already deleted that post once...

So I guess Allah is a norse god now?

Do the valkyries have to wear burkhas?

[I have far too much free time on my hands. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=689776&postcount=50)]

[I have far too much free time on my hands. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=689776&postcount=50)]
fantastic. let's see who bites

[I have far too much free time on my hands. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=689776&postcount=50)]
Woo @ Futurama reference :D

i wish you'd made it just a little more plausible, as to pull in the really gullible ones

I thought it was time to finally lay this thread to rest, but I guess not.

Anyway, I'd like to talk about this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38638), but apparently we're not allowed to discuss it.

I thought it was time to finally lay this thread to rest, but I guess not.

Anyway, I'd like to talk about this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38638), but apparently we're not allowed to discuss it.
I can't decide whether to bin that thread, or move it to fanart, wait 24 hours for it to turn into a spamhole and then bin it. Or go back to writing my dissertation and let Andrew bin it.

Well, I think "getting a picture someone else drew and then badly photoshopping a picture of a celebrity onto it" kind of stretches the definition of fan "art".

I also love how he says the picture needs to look good, but the picture he posted is terrible.

I guess it's time to get out that picture of Paul's head again. It's always funny for stuff like this.

I'll lock that thread in the morning, once someone's replied to Melon's post, then I can say it's gone off-topic :p

There, now it's gone off-topic.

I'm sorry, I got Ben's post report email, and I was all ready to trash it, but Melon has massively saved it and now I want to see what happens.

I hate you.

I hate you.
I agree with Andrew too, that thread stays until at least the morning (might even make it morning LA time just to be evil :p)

Well, I think "getting a picture someone else drew and then badly photoshopping a picture of a celebrity onto it" kind of stretches the definition of fan "art".

I also love how he says the picture needs to look good, but the picture he posted is terrible.

I guess it's time to get out that picture of Paul's head again. It's always funny for stuff like this.You sir, are made of massive win.

I can only apologise for the comments I have just made in the Celebrity Worm Head thread.

I can only apologise for the comments I have just made in the Celebrity Worm Head thread.
I'm rather tempted to infract you for that :p

Honestly, I wouldn't blame you. Mostly, I hope that Melon is aware that it was posted in jest.

I'm rather tempted to infract you for that :p

For apologising?

For apologising?
Yes, for apologising.

Honestly, I wouldn't blame you. Mostly, I hope that Melon is aware that it was posted in jest.
Haha of course I'm aware, I was only joking too. I was hoping it might get locked for flaming or something equally ridiculous.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=692967#post692967

"It looks like you're writing a letter!"

Maybe Valve should use this as their sales pitch for the Source engine.

If im gonna make worms 5 i'll just probably use the source engine
Reason?
benefits:
easy to use
physics are tweakable like valve did to portal
online multiplaying is easy
smooth particles are now available (they are demonstrated in team fortress 2)
turrets guns already pressent

disbenefits:
its up to the developer to make the gameplay (its up to team17 on how to pressent turn based gameplay at the souce enigne)
weapon scripts also the same thing as being (i know some ideas for easy scripting for some of the weapon physics)
destructible maps and arenas are not yet pressent at the source engine(needs the game developers to tweak the source engine heavily [you can review the frost bite engine fo some reference])


other ideas: i would make also a ps3 version because its sixaxis can help on some weapons that features control (super sheep parachute jetpack)

Maybe Valve should use this as their sales pitch for the Source engine.
i have never heard anyone use "disbenefit" until now. didn't even know it was a real word

Nor did I. I may have to use it around pedants to hook them into trying to correct it.

It's not trolling. Oh, no. It's edutainment!

I don't know how I've ended up arguing in Speculation & Discussion. I guess it was inevitable. But this quote, this quote right here.
i hope steam does the hing that prevents the game to suck
...

This thread...

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38887

...it's just. After years, years of people whining about "new 2D game please, 3D sucked". This. This happens. And he's so serious too.

I just don't know what to think anymore.

That thread is over 1 month old, and I don't see which post you're referring to.

Also:
There's really one thing I want in WA. I would like WA to support 32-bit color. Why? Because: (...)
How come no one told him this is coming in 4.0?

Also:

How come no one told him this is coming in 4.0?

4.0 is coming? :p

edit: I think SupSuper meant to link to this thread: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=696860#post696860

I liked the 3D games. :(

I liked the 3D games. :(I like Worms 4, actually. I'd be surprised if we've seen the last of them.

edit: I think SupSuper meant to link to this thread: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=696860#post696860Oh yeah sorry, they both had the same title so I didn't check, edited the post now.

It's not just that he likes 3D, he's just defending it so aggresively over 2D like most people that prefer 2D (3D IS THE FUTURE 2D IS DATED AND SUCKS ETC), it's incredible. :p

When something new comes out, anything that was ever good is instantly renendered permanently abhorrent.

I'm putting myself in this thread because I just can't stop myself.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697629&postcount=136

I CAN'T STOP. SOMEBODY STOP ME! P-A-R-T-Y? BECAUSE I GOTTA! SMOKIN'! LIKE A GLOVE! GET TO THE CHOPPER! AARRRRGGGGHHH! REAL MONSTERS!

When something new comes out, anything that was ever good is instantly renendered permanently abhorrent.god....I HATED not having any new, good 2D games come out for so many years after 3D hit main stream. seriously, just because you use an old method doesn't mean it won't be as good. especially in a situation like 2D to 3D in video games.....annoyed me SO much....so glad that people are playing and making 2D games once again.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697980&postcount=165

Gentlemen, we have succeeded. :cool:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=697980&postcount=165

Gentlemen, we have succeeded. :cool:to battle. to VICTORY!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39001

First time I've seen someone proud of a receding hairline...

That sig smells like a troll.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=698285#post698285

this thread. this whole thread. billy is making LESS sense the more he posts...

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39159
Not sure what results this poll will generate.

An improvement over his first thread, though, it has to be said: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39157

I mean, at least one can have a go at a meaningful reply with that one.

["I am disappointed that came out is not as good as the game that came out a year after it." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=700085&postcount=176)]

["I am disappointed that came out is not as good as the game that came out a year after it." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=700085&postcount=176)]
i'm disappointed in your sentence structure

I'm tired and stressed out while preparing for Comic-Con. Cut me some slack.

I'm tired and stressed out while preparing for Comic-Con. Cut me some slack.
ah, a friend and i were considering going to comic-con this year. transportation expenses, etc. just didn't add up. bummer; i totally would have checked out your table or whatever

forum members i ought to meet irl:

all of them

Even Plasma? :p

Even Plasma? :p
i guess i should have specified "od regulars"

Even Plasma? :p

Well how else are you going to punch him in the face? :p

Well how else are you going to punch him in the face? :p
haha yeah actually that would be enjoyable

Even Plasma? :pESPECIALLY plasma. for the reasons mentioned.

maybe we should set up an OD get together one year. all meet up at plasma's place and take turns wailing on him until we manage to knock some sense into him. could even make it an annual thing (cause god knows it's gunna take more than once to knock sense into plasma).

ESPECIALLY plasma. for the reasons mentioned.

maybe we should set up an OD get together one year. all meet up at plasma's place and take turns wailing on him until we manage to knock some sense into him. could even make it an annual thing (cause god knows it's gunna take more than once to knock sense into plasma).
I don't know why but that made me laugh out loud!

Maybe also invite Kelster along :p

I don't know why but that made me laugh out loud!

Maybe also invite Kelster along :p
kelster is probably in my top ten list of internet people to avoid for my life

ESPECIALLY plasma. for the reasons mentioned.

maybe we should set up an OD get together one year. all meet up at plasma's place and take turns wailing on him until we manage to knock some sense into him. could even make it an annual thing (cause god knows it's gunna take more than once to knock sense into plasma).Judging by his recent behaviour, erasing/hiding/holding for ransom his precious Pokemans would probably cover it. :p

Let's also delete all the thousands of Spore creatures from his computer and account. :D

Judging by his recent behaviour, erasing/hiding/holding for ransom his precious Pokemans would probably cover it. :p
steal his ds cart

Send him an envelope with seventeen earthworms in it.

Send him an envelope with seventeen earthworms in it.
nah he'd just be like "oh you GUYS"

you know? if plasma ever DOES make it into OD, he's going to have a great time when he gets to the inevitable search-for-his-own-name-to-see-what-we-said-about-him stage.

you know? if plasma ever DOES make it into OD, he's going to have a great time when he gets to the inevitable search-for-his-own-name-to-see-what-we-said-about-him stage.
but plasma will always be a self-righteous asshole. the day plasma gets into od is the day i stop posting here - i've said this about iguana in the past and it remains true for plasma now

Didn't someone also say that about aku? :p

Wasn't there that petition to get plasma banned thread a while back that got leaked?

you know? if plasma ever DOES make it into OD, he's going to have a great time when he gets to the inevitable search-for-his-own-name-to-see-what-we-said-about-him stage.

Like you did? :p

but plasma will always be a self-righteous asshole. the day plasma gets into od is the day i stop posting here - i've said this about iguana in the past and it remains true for plasma now

I'm sure you said the same about Aku too ;)

Wasn't there that petition to get plasma banned thread a while back that got leaked?

I believe so. In fact, this is the thread itself: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33470&highlight=plasma

I'm sure you said the same about Aku too ;)

no, i actually didn't. i mean i found him annoying and a bit of an idiot king but he was still amusing at times. plasma is completely devoid of wit and irony. from that previous thread:

akurkyrkurorkruoryrokoyou was suggested a while back, and we were strongly considering letting him in because he's not an asshole anymore

i don't think anyone seriously wanted iguana in, and plasma? good god

Like you did? :pfar worse. mine wasn't all that horrendous even if it was worse than most. the main one for me was just the sims 2 thread. aside from that it was really just occassional comments from years before. plasma has practically gotten to the status of running gag around here :p

ESPECIALLY plasma. for the reasons mentioned.

maybe we should set up an OD get together one year. all meet up at plasma's place and take turns wailing on him until we manage to knock some sense into him. could even make it an annual thing (cause god knows it's gunna take more than once to knock sense into plasma).

That idea reminds me of the end of Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back. We can quote all his stupid posts to him, nay chant them in a big circle, while each of us takes a turn. I'm game.

Just PM them to him :p

I just had to share this gem.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=708378#post708378

they've only got 18 posts and ALREADY they've covered every cliche in the book....

Well with a start like that, what did you expect? :p

Well with a start like that, what did you expect? :pright, but still. they're one motorcycle away from literally EVERY bad weapon suggestion cliche ever.

right, but still. they're one motorcycle away from literally EVERY bad weapon suggestion cliche ever.

Hah, yeah, that IS a stupid idea I guess...

Yeah...

*Despondently bins life's work*

So are you saying the game cannot work on 64-bit comps? Cause 64-bits are 32-bits but can handle twice the amount of coding, so i dont see how a 64-bit cant handle a 32-bit's job...

Twice the amount of coding. :cool:

this post makes my brain hurt:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=710875&postcount=131

this post makes my brain hurt:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=710875&postcount=131

Maths is not a toy ;).

Maths is not a toy ;).

Ah.
Maybe I should take my degree a little more seriously.

All in universe except stupids think like you.

New thread title.

New thread title.
I had to read that a few times to be able to understand it :confused:

I think it's a compliment.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=710999#post710999

BEST. THREAD. EVER!!!!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=712517&postcount=118

Hmmm, I think there's something we've not been told about in Geography...

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=712517&postcount=118

Hmmm, I think there's something we've not been told about in Geography...
i like how this post has absolutely no context whatsoever. just getting angry about russia

I think we're going to see a lot more of that bright mentality once the beta opens. The tons of people trying to sign up after it's closed are enough proof.

Awesome patch request for WA! :rolleyes:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40636

Let's add to a patch from 2010 for a game from 1999 an obsolete flag from 1991!

Fun!

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722227#post722227

....seriously.....

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722227#post722227

....seriously.....
I don't even think an IP check is needed with that one...

What the hell is a horatiworm?

What the hell is a horatiworm?

The main character of the American Police series, "CSI: Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_Miami)" is called Horatio Caine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Caine) and he begins every episode with a truly awful pun upon reaching a crime scene.
Oh yeah, and his sunglasses - he puts them on.

The main character of the American Police series, "CSI: Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_Miami)" is called Horatio Caine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Caine) and he begins every episode with a truly awful pun upon reaching a crime scene.
Oh yeah, and his sunglasses - he puts them on.EVERY episode?! god...I just assumed it was a one-off event...

I love puns, but EVERY episode?!

The main character of the American Police series, "CSI: Miami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_Miami)" is called Horatio Caine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Caine) and he begins every episode with a truly awful pun upon reaching a crime scene.
Oh yeah, and his sunglasses - he puts them on.

Ah. I've seen that on tv, obviously also seen the meme to death, never knew the character's name. :o

EVERY episode?! god...I just assumed it was a one-off event...

I love puns, but EVERY episode?!

I don't know if it was every episode, but it was too damn frequent.
Never really watched the series though.

EVERY episode?! god...I just assumed it was a one-off event...

I love puns, but EVERY episode?!Pretty much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznsEcZlM2I

Watch out Ben they're revolting (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40024)

New thread title - "You have a reading comprehension issue." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722533#post722533)

New thread title - "You have a reading comprehension issue." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722533#post722533)

That thread is generally rather amusing too.

New thread title - "You have a reading comprehension issue." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722533#post722533)
Consider it done :p

New thread title - "You have a reading comprehension issue." (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=722533#post722533)It's the first time I see someone complaining about a game not having RPG elements. The internet is the gift that just keeps on giving.

Well, I make an hyphotesis, that could be the most logical. Which main event is there in August? Simple, the Gamescon 2010 in Cologne, the 17th August to be exact.
In my opinion, seen that this game is both a return to PC games by T17 and they're coming back with 2D, they'll be there at 100%. And guess what? They're revealing all details right there, few days before the launch of game, as they did with Alien Breed Impact for PC.
Why Gamescon you think? Well, there is the cybermania games competition and the final tournaments of QuakeLive (rated as one of the best free online FPS), where an Italian like me is a finalist.

Remember...this is just only an opinion.

Emphasis mine.

Just deleted this advertising spam from the forums - see if you can spot the large number of either "odd" or wrong things with it!

Some of them made me chuckle. One is rather blatantly obvious...

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2169/screenshot20100718at225.png (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20100718at225.png/)

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Well, it's clearly not human. You can easily tell by how it didn't list the SNES as favorite console.:cool:

Given our community's average posting habits, could've fooled me. :p

It was more the bit where the title says his name is Charles Xavier, and then the first line says his name's Kevin... :p

Doing a google search of that title shows that this exact message has been posted in dozens of forums everywhere.

Thank you for spoiling my fun :( :p

That just makes it better. Someone probably set up that bot and set it loose on the internet, sit back, farted about for a bit, looked at the title of one of their robot's new posts and thought "...well ****".

Also, "SORRY LADIES" :cool:

just linking to a video as retardedly pointless as this should be grounds for banning. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=724011&postcount=512

just linking to a video as retardedly pointless as this should be grounds for banning. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=724011&postcount=512
**** you that video owns

just linking to a video as retardedly pointless as this should be grounds for banning. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=724011&postcount=512

nope.avi

Please don't hurt me.

nope.avi

Please don't hurt me.:rolleyes:

just linking to a video as retardedly pointless as this should be grounds for banning. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=724011&postcount=512
You should ba banned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmzii2u5GME&feature=related)

You are now sad. :( (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1FMd8O-MDc&feature=player_embedded)

When are they going to officially release Source Movie Maker, dang it.

What's wrong with the explosions in WR? Additionally, the new physics are more attractive to me than the old, unrealistic ones.

WR is more casual concerning its customisation. It's actually pretty limited compared to Armageddon, however it's fine to me - the simpliest mode, the common deathmatch, is what I play Worms for, after all. WA is completely characterized by the Ninja Rope anyway, isn't it?

Or? Which of these three items, do you think, is the one used most in WA?

a) Bazooka
b) MB Bomb
c) >>Ninja Rope!!<<
:cool:

I love it when people try to use the "it has more realistic physics" arguments with worms games - what part of blowing an annelid up with a bazooka or sheep or pigeon is realistic!

I love it when people try to use the "it has more realistic physics" arguments with worms games - what part of blowing an annelid up with a bazooka or sheep or pigeon is realistic!and what part of a bazooka making a perfectly spherical crater is realistic. I think we lost the realism argument somewhere around the part where worms were given eyebrows.... or eyes....

...or weaponry?

Thurbo is a thorough frustration.

I don't get why he suddenly thinks that WA's physics are unrealistic. (Unrealistic in the Worms universe)

In fact, they're basically the same.
Projectiles have parabolic trajectories, the center of gravity is at the bottom of the screen, etc.
That's how it always worked since 1995. And even in earlier artillery type games.

The only thing that has improved physics-wise are the bounces of grenades which now work correctly, as opposed to WA's pixellated ricochets.
Although, this good feature got completely messed up by the ridiculous collisions/friction tweaking, which causes ludicrously looking grenade shots and spot-on sitters. :P

Other than that it's just merely an issue of getting used to different engines and settings therein.
Nothing about one engine being more "unrealistic".

Could it be that the explosions sound more realistic in Reloaded?
They feel a lot punchier, could be because of improved sample quality though..

"Realistic" is not a term which can or should be applied to Worms. Of course a game where the explosions appear below the actual point of detonation is unrealistic. That's what makes it fun. I bet Thurbo's never heard of "explosion bias".

Xinos, what you're noticing is the obnoxious screen-shaking associated with explosions in that game. In case you're wondering, no, it's not a good thing.

Let's be frank, nobody here actually likes Worms, they just like ranting feverously about it. :p

LIES.

(Oh god, they're on to me. Quick, launch another fansite!!)

Let's be frank, nobody here actually likes Worms, they just like ranting feverously about it. :phey now. I enjoy it. I just don't enjoy how pants T17 has been lately :p

By "lately" do you mean "since 2001"?

I mean, I admire their attempt to resuscitate Alien Breed, but in doing so they've completely neglected the "shoot 'n' explore" aspects of the original, opting instead to go with a "Go here! Okay, now go here! Now go back there again! Now here! There! Back to A! U-turn, u-turn!" style of gameplay that is so incredibly, remarkably dull.

The only good Worms game that's come out in the last decade has been the DS version of Worms Open Warfare 2, which was developed by someone else and built around the W2/WA/WWP game engine.

Squirminator2k is true.

Here's the problem - Team17 were one of the leading developers for the Amiga back in the 90s, with more critical hits than flops. In the early-to-mid 90s they dabbled in the PC market by publishing Epic's SilverBall and allowing third-party ports of games like Alien Breed and Superfrog (ports that, by the way, are terrible - Superfrog for MS-DOS cannot actually be completed), but they didn't properly enter the PC market themselves until 1995 with the release of Worms - a game that, by the way, was co-produced by East Point Software, who worked on the PC prot of Superfrog and the GameBoy/SuperNES/MegaDrive versions of Worms.

Since then it feels rather a lot like they've been playing catch-up.

They got very lucky with Worms 2 which did a very good job of implementing the sort of tweakability that PC gamers loved making use of at the time as well as an exceptionally well-implemented online mode. But things started to turn sour as Worms Armageddon went into development. It may be the strongest game in the series, but it's not without its flaws - crippled tweaking of settings, an ambitious but ultimately flawed online ranking system, and, ugh, a single player mode that must be played in order to unlock stuff.

Online play in Team17 titles since then has been a hellish nightmare, and it seems absolutely baffling that something so integral to modern gaming seems to be such a difficult thing for the company to wrap its head around. From the broken GameSpy implementation in WOrms 3D and Worms 4: Mayhem right the way through to Worms Reloaded's incredible delays between turns and unnecessary pauses before and after crate drops.

And lest we forget the titles that they've put out in between Worms games. While Lemmings for the PSP/PS2 was, in my opinion, a huge success for the developer, other titles such as Army Men: Major Malfunction and Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust have been... well, less great. I once asked Martyn Brown about Major Malfunction and his attitude was that it paid the bills and got them the funding to develop W4M and Worms XBLA (my memory of that conversation is fuzzy at best, so apologies if this is an inaccurate representation of Spadge's view of the game). That may well be the case, but the quality of the game is so unashamedly poor for a developer that could do no wrong in the eyes of so many not 15 years prior. It's remarkable.

So what next for Team17? As I've said, I admire their attempts to revive old franchises and to breathe new life into Worms after the damage done by the 3D entries in the series, but they seem to be content just being adequate. They used to be so much better, and it feels like they used to hold themselves to a higher standard.

I've been a fan of their games for most of my life. The old Team17 logo with the orbital ring around it is forever burned in my memory, connected to so many brilliant moments with my dad, my friends, and even just buggering about on my own on the Amiga. But this last decade... the company just feels broken. Whatever soul or spirit they may have had in the 90s vanished long ago.

Once again, Squirminator2k is true. This is what I've been saying since ~2003.

I haven't really been playing much in the way of Worms games lately - I had WA, but that was only v3.0. Worms 3D and WFUS were fair cracks at the 3D whip (I never tried W4 though), and WFUS did have an interesting quirkiness to it. I have however bought the two iPhone versions of Worms. While the original was tending more towards Worms 1, they really did an excellent job on Worms 2 Armageddon on the iPhone. It's not dissimilar to worms of the olden days, I think, and is a pretty good game for a mobile platform.

Silly Thomasp, when you could be playing WA on your Mac RIGHT NOW. (with wine)

Silly Thomasp, when you could be playing WA on your Mac RIGHT NOW. (with wine)
I could if I knew where my WA CD was :p

It got packed when my parents moved house, and I wasn't around during either the packing or unpacking.

By "lately" do you mean "since 2001"?

I mean, I admire their attempt to resuscitate Alien Breed, but in doing so they've completely neglected the "shoot 'n' explore" aspects of the original, opting instead to go with a "Go here! Okay, now go here! Now go back there again! Now here! There! Back to A! U-turn, u-turn!" style of gameplay that is so incredibly, remarkably dull.

The only good Worms game that's come out in the last decade has been the DS version of Worms Open Warfare 2, which was developed by someone else and built around the W2/WA/WWP game engine.
Personally I quite like the new Alien Breed. Despite the more linear nature, there's still plenty of helpful stuff you can find if you bother to search for every nook and cranny, it's evolved a lot since the old days while staying true to the original, it's extremely challenging (even in co-op) so every shot counts, and it's still got a huge level of polish for a console port that's barely 10 bucks. I'm really satisfied with the team's work and response on that one, specially during the beta.

Worms Reloaded, well, erased all my saves during a Steam Cloud mishap. :p But Worms has always just been another fun multiplayer game I can play with friends, and it still does that just fine (and Steam is a huge improvement for setting up games). I don't really feel it's that great or that terrible and I don't care either.

I agree with what S2K is saying completely. It's hard to understand how the broken parts of the game can still be broken in with every new installment of the game. The flaws are so obvious, and it's just stressful to see them get ignored over and over. The production needs to be absolutely solid in today's market of small download-able games, people have shorter attention spans than ever, and it's those small annoying issues that make you not want to come back to a game. Worms may have been synonymous with quality once, but reputation only lasts so long.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=738057#post738057

Can we village idiot this guy? Please? Half his posts contain some amount of sheer idiocy now.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=738057#post738057

Can we village idiot this guy? Please? Half his posts contain some amount of sheer idiocy now.wow. I read 3 of his last posts in that thread and have NO idea what he's talking about on any one of them!

I think his point is nobody really cares about a game title like "Worms 2: Armageddon", besides being pedantic over it referencing "Worms Armageddon". Which is not true. You could be pedantic that it references "Worms 2" too. Or that it referencess "Worms". Or that it references ":", used in a wide multitude of games. The options are endless.

His G-Modded TF2 Scout avatar perfectly fits the idiotic image I have of him at times. :rolleyes:

I think he is in a generation conflict though.
He is old enough to have witnessed the old games, but is hyped by the new ones.
In a few years, kids will have forgotten the old games totally, and games like WR/W2A/WBI will be their classics.

He most certainly isn't old enough to have witnessed anything. He flat out made it up that he's been playing Worms games for 9 years, that much I can tell for sure. Initially it was so he could make himself sound credible in his assessment of WR, but now I'm not even sure why he does it anymore. I've tried approaching him about it before but, surprise, he just spouts the same nonsense over and over again when you catch him in a lie.

I think he just worships WR because he was a beta tester on it, and as such has become quite a fanboy...

I think he just worships WR because he was a beta tester on it, and as such has become quite a fanboy...
Well, I was a WR beta tester too.
I became frustrated though, as many annoying bugs have been acknowledged by T17, but never patched to this day. :(

E.g. sheep getting detonated by space while you're on the rope, which makes roping to safety in your 5 sec retreat impossible, since you immediately detach, and in most cases end up in your own sheep explosion.

Well, I was a WR beta tester too.
I became frustrated though, as many annoying bugs have been acknowledged by T17, but never patched to this day. :(

E.g. sheep getting detonated by space while you're on the rope, which makes roping to safety in your 5 sec retreat impossible, since you immediately detach, and in most cases end up in your own sheep explosion.
I think it's time to move on. Save it for the next Worms Rererererereloaded. :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/search.php?searchid=2891649

I think this user is a spambot. It seems to be taking posts from random forums and applying them to vaguely related threads.

http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=51916&start=0 Third post.
http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=67457 Sixth post from the bottom.
http://www.speechover.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12 Second post.

Either that or he's a very elaborate troll?

Could you post another link that's not a searchid - those things expire :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=161741

This guy. Just go to statistics > find all posts for this user. :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=161741

This guy. Just go to statistics > find all posts for this user. :p
Fighting on a bridge, huh?
http://clip.vn/watch/Samurai-Jack-Ep-11,Q2U

Genndy Tartakovsky is my all-time favourite animator. Dexter's Laboratory, Samurai Jack and Star Wars Clone Wars are ingenious.
(Oh, I see he has a new one called "Sym-Bionic Titans". Gotta check that out!)

I do also like other animators that have a very similar, if not identical style, e.g. Craig McCracken, John McIntyre, Rob Renzetti or Chris Saviano (and many more of Hanna-Barbera and Cartoon Network).
They all contributed a lot to my favourite series like Powerpuff Girls, 2 Stupid Dogs/Secret Squirrel or Johnny Bravo.

I just like that kind of 1990s animation style.

Fighting on a bridge, huh?
http://clip.vn/watch/Samurai-Jack-Ep-11,Q2U

Genndy Tartakovsky is my all-time favourite animator. Dexter's Laboratory, Samurai Jack and Star Wars Clone Wars are ingenious.
(Oh, I see he has a new one called "Sym-Bionic Titans". Gotta check that out!)

I do also like other animators that have a very similar, if not identical style, e.g. Craig McCracken, John McIntyre, Rob Renzetti or Chris Saviano (and many more of Hanna-Barbera and Cartoon Network).
They all contributed a lot to my favourite series like Powerpuff Girls, 2 Stupid Dogs/Secret Squirrel or Johnny Bravo.

I just like that kind of 1990s animation style.

Yes .

Yes .
Yes! Yes!! YES!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wefYwAy-iYk)

All binned - sorry, those slipped through the net.

This happy camper appears to be annoyed that he actually has to play Worms Ultimate Mayhem. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=767902&postcount=21)

*headdesk*

This happy camper appears to be annoyed that he actually has to play Worms Ultimate Mayhem. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=767902&postcount=21)
You might as well just link the whole WUM forum while you're at it. :p

That's a good idea. I'll start right away.

This guy is a real jerk. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=767975&postcount=7)

I suppose in hindsight this is my fault (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=767980&postcount=8).

I don't even know why anyone would take that as a serious suggestion. You may as well ask why tabletop Warhammer isn't real-time and get better answers that that.

I am always annoyed when white starts first in chess.
That should be real time too.

Personally I think more FPS games should be turn based. It would add so much strategy!111

I suppose in hindsight this is my fault (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=767980&postcount=8).And so is this. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=768056#post768056) And I thought this was the last safe haven on the internet, I hope you're proud of yourself. :p

that thread makes my brain hurt......