Nah, golf is more a turn-based first-person skill game.
With some racing action.

Golf? (http://www.golfquestionmark.com/)In my case, golf is an FPS.

[There was no patch for WOW, therefore WOW2 is the patch. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=646031#post646031)]

I just posted this in the mod forum. I am not going to tell you who it refers to:

1. Define all words differently to everyone else and don't mention this.
2. Argue with people who say things that are not true in your new language.
3. Demand that everyone either prove the objective and intrinsic superiority of English or else speak your new language.
4. Continue argument for ever.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=646628&postcount=4

Also there are 2 main differences to the DS and PSP versions. The DS one doesn't have hats, but the PSP version does.

Ah Shadowmoon, your unintentional comedy does not go unappreciated.

Shadowmoon glorifying hats and CheechLizard making his first serious post after like seven years (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36146)* all in one day? I do not believe in coincidence. :eek:

* At a quick glance, anyway.

Over the past two years, I've left the forum three times. I've mentioned it twice and just walked away on one occasion, and the reason I do this is invariably because I become fed up of the sheer stupidity of the posters on the forum and decide to start calling people on their downright stupid behaviour. Then I upset someone or hurt someone's feelings and decide it would be wise to take some time away from the forum.

I've done this twice, and I was on the verge of doing it again today until I said to myself, "You know what? (Rubber duck - Ed.) 'em. If they don't want their feelings hurt they can damn-well stop being so (clucking - Ed.) stupid.

Perhaps you ought to take a different approach to stupidity. If one of your friends made a mistake, you'd take them aside and try to help them. Well, just think about the 'stupid' people as friends you have yet to make.

You do seem to call a lot of people out for such behaviour, Ben. I'm surprised it's not earned you a nickname or something.

Generally speaking, if someone I don't know is displaying mind-numbing levels of stupidity I'm not likely to want to befriend them :)

Perhaps you ought to take a different approach to stupidity. If one of your friends made a mistake, you'd take them aside and try to help them. Well, just think about the 'stupid' people as friends you have yet to make.

You do seem to call a lot of people out for such behaviour, Ben. I'm surprised it's not earned you a nickname or something.we've all tried that idea plenty in the past with a few different people. it never works :p

So you decided to give up and become nasty instead? Fair enough.

So you decided to give up and become nasty instead? Fair enough.
you're really obnoxious sometimes, you know that?

Ignoring stupidity is just as bad as encouraging it.

Also, people never change.

Never.

I know I don't.

I used to, but I don't any more.

Also, people never change.

Never.

Not even when they're 11? :p

you're really obnoxious sometimes, you know that?

And you've made a few mistakes in the past but have I slated you for it? No, never.

I speak the truth. I understand there is a need to react and vent about idiocy but 'you', whoever 'we' are, Nathan, are best not giving it as much negative attention as it's receiving, that can only encourage nastiness. Fair comment?

When was the last time anyone said "You know, there are some real bright sparks on this forum. I think I'll create a thread showcasing examples of good posts." Now try to stop yourselves replying with "There is nothing positive to note."

I started an "Intelligence on the Forum" thread some time ago. It has long since fallen off the bottom of the OD frontpage.

This speaks volumes, both about our readiness to praise smarts, and the current intellectual climate of the forum.

When was the last time anyone said "You know, there are some real bright sparks on this forum. I think I'll create a thread showcasing examples of good posts." Now try to stop yourselves replying with "There is nothing positive to note."this thread is here because it is amusing. it provides a place to laugh at people when they make a stupid mistakes. think of it as watching a blooper reel from a show or a movie.

even if their WAS a thread for positive posts, I would never think to post anything in it and would never be interested in seeing what was in it. if a person is being intelligent they will be rewarded for doing so by gaining more respect. there's no need to single the posts out because it just wouldn't be interesting to go through and read them over again. intelligence just isn't something worth laughing about.

I think FutureWorm's point was that you come in here for no reason other than to ridicule the posters here because we aren't living up to your own moral standards in regard to how we're dealing with the stupid posts of this forum. we're just here to laugh at people when they do something ridiculously stupid. it's not a sin to like a good blooper reel, and yet you come in acting like you're above that sort of behavior for no reason. we're just here to laugh, is it really necessary to come in and ridicule us for it? it's not like we're being petty about it and ridiculing those posters who's posts end up in this thread even after the stupid post was done and over with. if someone improves we move on to wait until someone else does something stupid.

In any case, pointing out flaws to someone never comes across well, regardless of your intent.

Never.

[Shadowmoon tells it like it is: Developers, get the bugs out of your code before you release your betas! (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=647691&postcount=65)]

Meh, seems like he deleted all his posts in the CD thread.

Shadowmoon has a history of Hellsheeping threads he's contributed in. Personally I'd say it's warrant enough for a Being Watched status.

Please don't tempt me...

I'm glad volc has never given usermods the ability to permaban, let's just put it that way.

I'd go with the Village Idiot status personally. Lets him have his fun without making entire forums look stupid. Shame about the ghost page bug, though.

I speak the truth. I understand there is a need to react and vent about idiocy but 'you', whoever 'we' are, Nathan, are best not giving it as much negative attention as it's receiving, that can only encourage nastiness. Fair comment?
my name's not nathan
In any case, pointing out flaws to someone never comes across well, regardless of your intent.

Never.

big deal, it's the internet

I can't wait to see how many books Shadowmoon has and then show him my collection.

I think I'm going to need... let's see, main bookcase, auxiliary one behind the door, auxiliary two at the foot of the bed, auxiliary three in Dad's bedroom, the Discworld books in the wall unit downstairs... that's at least five photographs. Add onto that the stuff in the loft...

Is "Because you've never read "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy"" a valid reason to ban someone? :p

Yes .

Definitely.

Beano annuals?! Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!

Nothing wrong with Beano annuals.

Beano annuals are awesome.

Hmm. It's too early to say of course, and I'll probably jinx it by saying this, but I think Shadowmoon's made some progress tonight in terms of overall humility and stuff. The situation requires continued monitoring, naturally.

my name's not nathanmine is. I assumed he was talking to both of us and got confused.

I can't wait to see how many books Shadowmoon has and then show him my collection.where is this comparison going to be happening? I missed it somewhere.

I'd go with the Village Idiot status personally. Lets him have his fun without making entire forums look stupid. Shame about the ghost page bug, though.well he's definitely warranted that much, for sure. he seems to be getting better and better at posting like a mature, sensible person...then he just goes and does something completely idiotic to the point that it negates all the sensible posts he's made. every once in a while I swear he's getting better but he just proves me wrong...

where is this comparison going to be happening? I missed it somewhere.

Over here (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36176&page=3)

this thread is here because it is amusing. it provides a place to laugh at people when they make a stupid mistakes. think of it as watching a blooper reel from a show or a movie.

even if their WAS a thread for positive posts, I would never think to post anything in it and would never be interested in seeing what was in it. if a person is being intelligent they will be rewarded for doing so by gaining more respect. there's no need to single the posts out because it just wouldn't be interesting to go through and read them over again. intelligence just isn't something worth laughing about.

I think FutureWorm's point was that you come in here for no reason other than to ridicule the posters here because we aren't living up to your own moral standards in regard to how we're dealing with the stupid posts of this forum. we're just here to laugh at people when they do something ridiculously stupid. it's not a sin to like a good blooper reel, and yet you come in acting like you're above that sort of behavior for no reason. we're just here to laugh, is it really necessary to come in and ridicule us for it? it's not like we're being petty about it and ridiculing those posters who's posts end up in this thread even after the stupid post was done and over with. if someone improves we move on to wait until someone else does something stupid.

Interesting analogy, Nathan, but what's going on here is nothing like the average blooper show. Bloopers are things like mixing up words and falling over - silly mistakes that everyone can laugh about. Unfortunately, what goes on in this thread and sometimes others in OD has the potential to lead to much worse. Sometimes we don't realise how bad we get, and one time we even caused an insider to defect. The accusations were that we're elitist, and I can understand why they thought that.

I don't like people being idiots on purpose, either. But you shouldn't take my unwillingness to b.itch about these people as taking the moral highground. It's just common decency. Maybe I take it too seriously, but the reason I do is because of what has happened in the past. I can remember for a time after that last leak, everyone was talking about closing down OD, slating the forum, and it took a lot of talk to bring people around. We had ideas to devise a plan of reform to prevent it happening again and improve the rest of the forum at the same time. My attitude is just the continuation of that plan. You'll have to forgive me, I can't remember if you were in or out at that time.

It's good to see Shadowmoon is improving. I think it has a little to do with the positive experience he's had so far at the RealVG forum.

Josh, I know you're not Nathan. He is.

Interesting analogy, Nathan, but what's going on here is nothing like the average blooper show. Bloopers are things like mixing up words and falling over - silly mistakes that everyone can laugh about. Unfortunately, what goes on in this thread and sometimes others in OD has the potential to lead to much worse. Sometimes we don't realise how bad we get, and one time we even caused an insider to defect. The accusations were that we're elitist, and I can understand why they thought that.

I don't like people being idiots on purpose, either. But you shouldn't take my unwillingness to b.itch about these people as taking the moral highground. It's just common decency. Maybe I take it too seriously, but the reason I do is because of what has happened in the past. I can remember for a time after that last leak, everyone was talking about closing down OD, slating the forum, and it took a lot of talk to bring people around. We had ideas to devise a plan of reform to prevent it happening again and improve the rest of the forum at the same time. My attitude is just the continuation of that plan. You'll have to forgive me, I can't remember if you were in or out at that time.nope. I wasn't in during that whole thing, so I really can't know what you're basing your concerns on. the moral highground thing was based on how your posts in this thread were sounding. it appeared like you were just trying to be better than everyone else and rub our noses in it. if you're actually concerned about this, then I can't really argue too heavily one way or another on that. it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I mean, I disagree and would like to try to explain why, though.

I treat this thread as no more than a blooper reel. if you mislike that analogy, look up Jay Walking from the Tonight Show with Jay Leno that plays here in america (unless you're american, or the show plays in other countries, in which case you may be alreayd familiar with it). I view this thread as the same sort of thing as that show. it's funny to laugh at people who act or actually ARE really stupid. sure, it's mean, but it's still something I find funny so long as we're not being malicious about it. perhaps I'm not percieving this thread in the same way as you, but when I read this I assume everyone else is reading it for no reason other than what I'm reading it for: a cheap laugh. if it gets to the point that people are just being mean or xenophobic because of this thread and threads like it, I can understand that it is then a problem and needs to be dealt with. as it is, though, I don't really see it as anything more than harmless fun.

this may just be an issue of you comparing it to the situation in OD before the major leak incident and me not being able to compare it to how it was in the past. we may simply not be able to understand each others view points.

I personally will not the actions of a couple of morons from a few months ago change the way I choose to go about my business on this forum. I shall continue to calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Interesting analogy, Nathan, but what's going on here is nothing like the average blooper show. Bloopers are things like mixing up words and falling over - silly mistakes that everyone can laugh about. Unfortunately, what goes on in this thread and sometimes others in OD has the potential to lead to much worse. Sometimes we don't realise how bad we get, and one time we even caused an insider to defect. The accusations were that we're elitist, and I can understand why they thought that.

I don't like people being idiots on purpose, either. But you shouldn't take my unwillingness to b.itch about these people as taking the moral highground. It's just common decency. Maybe I take it too seriously, but the reason I do is because of what has happened in the past. I can remember for a time after that last leak, everyone was talking about closing down OD, slating the forum, and it took a lot of talk to bring people around. We had ideas to devise a plan of reform to prevent it happening again and improve the rest of the forum at the same time. My attitude is just the continuation of that plan. You'll have to forgive me, I can't remember if you were in or out at that time.

STOP TAKING THE INTERNET SO ****ING SERIOUSLY

The Internet is a tool, the people are what are being taken seriously. Or not, but you get the gist.

MrBunsy speaks the truth.

The Internet is a tool, the people are what are being taken seriously. Or not, but you get the gist.
Hmm.
Some people are tools too.

The accusations were that we're elitist, and I can understand why they thought that.

but the accusation is true

this forum is an elite forum

we're in here because we're elites

otherwise all the rabble and commoners could walk in and spoil our dinnerparties and croquet matches with their shouting and petty theft and taking dumps on the golfcourse green

I hate it when people abuse the facilities.

but the accusation is true

this forum is an elite forum

we're in here because we're elites

otherwise all the rabble and commoners could walk in and spoil our dinnerparties and croquet matches with their shouting and petty theft and taking dumps on the golfcourse green
we must preserve our classiness

but the accusation is true

this forum is an elite forum

we're in here because we're elites

otherwise all the rabble and commoners could walk in and spoil our dinnerparties and croquet matches with their shouting and petty theft and taking dumps on the golfcourse green
Not to forget that they will displace our top hats and monocles when they come storming in.

I think my stance on Shadowmoon has changed from "Unadulterated hatred" to "Tough love". For some reason I think I'm starting to see potential in the kid.

For some reason I think I'm starting to see potential in the kid.
Must be Paul.Power's aura radiating the Swansea region.

[I think I spoke too soon (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=648469&postcount=202)]

Must be Paul.Power's aura radiating the Swansea region.I just hope he never realises that there's only one Varley in the Swansea phone book...

I think my stance on Shadowmoon has changed from "Unadulterated hatred" to "Tough love". For some reason I think I'm starting to see potential in the kid.

"Love" is a bit much. I'd go for Tough Tolerate at the moment.

Well, at least he was honest :) He's certainly an interesting chap.

I think my stance on Shadowmoon has changed from "Unadulterated hatred" to "Tough love". For some reason I think I'm starting to see potential in the kid.he's getting more toward the "trying way too hard to be cool" area of iritation rather than the "complete and utter **** tard" area. I think eventually he may well turn out to be a decent member of the forums. if nothing else I see him being at least a plasma.

he's getting more toward the "trying way too hard to be cool" area of iritation rather than the "complete and utter **** tard" area. I think eventually he may well turn out to be a decent member of the forums. if nothing else I see him being at least a plasma.Definitely not what I'd call a role model.

Definitely not what I'd call a role model.I DID say "at least" :p

...

31380

Why yes. In his case, it should be at least 30.

...

31380ahh....that's awesome :)

Apparently, wood isn't flammable, according to Shadowmoon:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=650565&postcount=271
I didn't know wood was flammable.

Apparently, wood isn't flammable, according to Shadowmoon:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=650565&postcount=271

But he...

I mean...

Surely...

Love. Hate. Clouds.

LOL, Paul.

He didn't know wood was flammable? What do they teach kids in school these days?

LOL, Paul.

He didn't know wood was flammable? What do they teach kids in school these days?don't base that question on shadowmoon's answers. I'm not entirely certain he even GOES to school at this point....

LOL, Paul.

He didn't know wood was flammable? What do they teach kids in school these days?

don't base that question on shadowmoon's answers. I'm not entirely certain he even GOES to school at this point....

He always seems to claim that he'll be learning something "in year 9" (which if I remember correctly will be the next academic year for him).

Hmm...
I learned what things burn when me and my friends were scavenging various waste containers at young ages and burning the garbage in remote locations.

I always thought that most children do such things in their youth. Damn TV, computers and the internets!
I'm gonna buy my son a survival knife and send him in the woods! :rolleyes:

seriously, though. if THIS is the result of computers, I really AM sending any future sons or daughters to live in the woods for a week with nothing but a survivial knife...

that's just sad

Although, Youtube and the like have been around for some time now, so Shadowmoon should have actually stumbled across some video where wood is burnt...

Although, Youtube and the like have been around for some time now, so Shadowmoon should have actually stumbled across some video where wood is burnt...OPTION 2: he's a ****ing retard :p

Hmm...
I learned what things burn when me and my friends were scavenging various waste containers at young ages and burning the garbage in remote locations.

I always thought that most children do such things in their youth. Damn TV, computers and the internets!
I'm gonna buy my son a survival knife and send him in the woods! :rolleyes:Thing is... I never did stuff like that, and I still know that wood burns. It's just... something everyone knows, like triangles having three sides or water being wet.

This thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36279&page=2) just gets better and better. I'd never thought I'd say I'm on Plasma's and Shadowmoon's side :p

The needle on the sympathy gauge keeps going up for Plasma and Shadowmoon, while it's jumping around wildly for yakuza and quakerworm and getting lower.

Seems my first impression for the latter two has been quite wrong.
Well, my first impression for Plasma and Shaodwmoon has been wrong too, but it has gotten better.

We need a Flash-based interactive sympathy gauge thingie for all those characters, where everyone can vote on the sympathy of those person's based on each post they made. :D

I didn't know wood was flammable.Munkee, bachelor for life says:
of course, you realize what this means
Munkee, bachelor for life says:
the human race is now officially stupider than it was in the caveman days
Zero says:
I wouldn't say it proves that so much as it proves that Shadowmoon himself isn't quite human

Jovia ?
edit: Hu what? I clicked the reply button on the PEAO thread... dunno why it got posted here. :p

[Apparently there's no difference between saying "I'm gay" and going into a detailed description of what you and Some Guy got up to last night (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651403&postcount=144)].

Should anyone be interested, [this is my response (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651413&postcount=145)].

Not quite as bad as forgetting that wood burns, but y'know... (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651425&postcount=150)

Also, how does "back on track, who wants to know about Canada?" make sense in a thread about Scotland?

[Shadowmoon can't handle the truth about the love shared between two men (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651421&postcount=148)]

s2k, what are you complaining about in that thread? you made a huge deal about what kelster said and posted it here with a description completely off what actually was said. you made it sound like she was freaking out about people being gay when all she said was that she would just prefer if gay people kept it to themselves. you made it sound something like 50 times worse than it ever even got close to implying.

and then you even came back like 5 posts after the subject was intentionally changed just to flame them again....

having a bad day or something? :confused:

The problem is that Kelster23 has said that he'd rather not know people are gay because he doesn't want to know what they get up to. Gay people aren't saying what they get up to. They're just stating which way their bread is buttered. They're not talking about other condiments and preferred methods of eating.

That people don't seem to see this problem is indicative of a larger problem with how people view the homosexual community.

Psst, Ben: Kelster's a she

Thanks for the heads up.

The problem is that Kelster23 has said that he'd rather not know people are gay because he doesn't want to know what they get up to. Gay people aren't saying what they get up to. They're just stating which way their bread is buttered. They're not talking about other condiments and preferred methods of eating.yes, but she didn't SAY that they actually say what they're getting up to, just that she'd prefer not to know either way. I mean, it was a completely pointless statement but you made it sound like she was insulting gays. :confused:

That people don't seem to see this problem is indicative of a larger problem with how people view the homosexual community.no, no. I completely agree with what you're saying, I just don't see that problem as being present in the current situation.

yes, but she didn't SAY that they actually say what they're getting up to, just that she'd prefer not to know either way. I mean, it was a completely pointless statement but you made it sound like she was insulting gays. :confused:
Well let's look at [that post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651403&postcount=144)] again. No one at any point prior to this post has suggested anything about "what they get up to". Kelster makes this leap based on someone saying "being gay isn't strictly speaking a bad thing". Why has Kelster made this leap? What was the point of it? No one has brought it up so why mention it at all?

Perhaps I'm overreacting, it just seems a little off to me. I'm genuinely surprised that no one else can see it.

Well let's look at [that post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651403&postcount=144)] again. No one at any point prior to this post has suggested anything about "what they get up to". Kelster makes this leap based on someone saying "being gay isn't strictly speaking a bad thing". Why has Kelster made this leap? What was the point of it? No one has brought it up so why mention it at all?

Perhaps I'm overreacting, it just seems a little off to me. I'm genuinely surprised that no one else can see it.eh, I guess I can kinda see your point, but I do definitely think you're overreacting.

I stand by S-2k, Kelster is basically saying she doesn't want gay people to say they are gay. People do not have to keep it to themselves only because someone doesn't want to know. Perhaps the graphical explanation wasn't necessary, but he still has a point.

Now, online relationships by people who have never met in person and live too far away from each other, that's something that people should keep to themselves. :P

I bet Kelster is only jealous because she knows she barely has any chances with a homosexual male.
Or maybe she has a knack for always starting to flirt with gays. :D

I really wonder if she has the same opinion about homosexual females.
I that case a gay woman revealing her sexuality and what she's up to shouldn't really bother Kelster, except of course Kelster herself is a bit homosexual.

Or, maybe this whole fear of homosexuals is completely irrational and homophobes are just idiots.
A homosexual of your opposite sex would merely be a potential competitor that could snatch away your potential sexual partner.
A homosexual of your own sex shouldn't actually bother you at all. It's not like with vampires or zombies that turn you into one of them. :rolleyes:

Yes, I do believe in vampires and zombies.

Yes, I do believe in vampires and zombies.
We all do, Bonz. I allways keep garlic and a shotgun close.

Psst, Ben: Kelster's a she
she is plasma's GIRLFRIEND
Well let's look at [that post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=651403&postcount=144)] again. No one at any point prior to this post has suggested anything about "what they get up to". Kelster makes this leap based on someone saying "being gay isn't strictly speaking a bad thing". Why has Kelster made this leap? What was the point of it? No one has brought it up so why mention it at all?

Perhaps I'm overreacting, it just seems a little off to me. I'm genuinely surprised that no one else can see it.

she's an idiot on the internet who cares

The problem I have with this, Josh, is that while she may just be "an idiot on the internet" it's indicative of a much larger problem with society. To whit: Horrible, irrational homophobia, and the clear mental association of "gay man" with "ololol butt secks".

i basically agree with s2k its really really annoying when i'm like "there's nothing wrong with being gay" and the immediate response is "yeah that's cool i just don't want to know it" well that implies that there's something wrong with it huh

and taking it to the next level and equating being gay with explicit sex is just bizarre

you might have been a little intense in your response but it's annoying that thats kinda the general mentality :<

Well BuffaloKid is gay and I've never seen anyone in the forum bothered by it.

Banned .

Fag.

Before you fly off the handle, this post is intentionally post-ironic.

Fag.

Before you fly off the handle, this post is intentionally post-ironic.

Oh, okay...

Wait, post-ironic? You homophobe.

"I'm a post-modern vegetarian. I eat meat ironically."

got so distracted by the post-whatsit that i forgot to reply to real posts

Well BuffaloKid is gay and I've never seen anyone in the forum bothered by it.

So was gingerneck (haw haw). And quite possibly yauhui (naruto yaoi fanfics).

Also I didn't know BuffaloKid was gay but I have him associated with "annoying" in my mind. Wasn't he part of psyke's ilk? I would be appalled if anyone on this forum had a serious problem with homosexuality but there's still that subconscious aversion to it that's what we're complaining about

To whit: Horrible, irrational homophobia, and the clear mental association of "gay man" with "ololol butt secks".
True.
Heterosexual people can engage in anal intercourse too.
I don't see those same homophobic people condemning all heterosexuals and "just don't want to know it".
Also I didn't know BuffaloKid was gay but I have him associated with "annoying" in my mind.
I only recall BuffaloKid as being the one that has seen His Holyness the Concrete Donkey (:eek:) with his own, naked eyes and hasn't made a photograph of it yet. :mad:

Oh, okay...

Wait, post-ironic? You homophobe.

Maybe he meant to say "this post is intentionally ironic post".

I can see what she means, though her comment was perhaps from out of the blue, and with questionable relevancy. We would agree that the majority of people in our societies don't like other people going in to detail about what they get up to in private sexually, regardless of their gender preference. Perhaps Kelster has had a bad experience, or was raised amongst people who saw homosexuality as bad. It's not her fault she's caught in the dregs of intolerance, and she should be forgiven if she's young. Heck, if you think she's bad, you should meet my mum. She used to love John Barrowman until she learned he was gay.

I've seen and heard far more gay men make very suggestive, leud comments repeatedly in conversation than straight men, half the time about someone else who is present or even you! I'm not talking about being passively flirtatious, either. In gay culture, sex is talked about very openly, probably because that's what it's all about at the end of the day. It's easy to become uncomfortable with it if you're not used to it, and then grow tired of it eventually. It puts you off wanting to see them in future.

I've seen and heard far more gay men make leud comments repeatedly in conversation than women. In gay culture, sex is talked about very openly, probably because that's what it's all about at the end of the day. It's easy to become uncomfortable with it if you're not used to it, and then grow tired of it eventually. It puts you off wanting to see them in future.

That's really nothing to do with sexuality -- that's to do with Men.

Edited.

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men suck, amirite guys?

I'm inclined to believe that human beings generally are a bunch of kumquats.

kumquats
Kumquats, eh?
The size and shape of those remind me of the human male's testicles.

Does that comment qualify as gay sexual innuendo? :D

Not really, no, as you specified human male testicles. If you want to use innuendo you have to be subtle. E.G. "The size and shape of those remind me of something I see all the time but I can't put my finger on them right now. Hopefully the words will just pop in to my mouth."

Arf .

That's really nothing to do with sexuality -- that's to do with Men.eh, even gay women have a tendency to talk overly-much about their sex lives.

I think it's because while some people are just honestly attracted to others of their own gender, I think probably a good half of them just don't have a preference either way and want the attention.

eh, even gay women have a tendency to talk overly-much about their sex lives.

I think it's because while some people are just honestly attracted to others of their own gender, I think probably a good half of them just don't have a preference either way and want the attention.

I've also heard people say that people who claim to be bisexual are really just kidding themselves.

Also I've heard that gay people are evil and must be punished, so there's a broad spectrum of views. Personally, I don't see the need for a distinction: go with whoever you fancy. I've never fancied a man yet but I don't think I'd be freaked out if I ever did. I hope not, though. Kissing stubble is weird.

I think it's just that people tend to hang out with people of the same sexuality as them, because otherwise they'd never get dates, so they end up acting similarly because they have their own little sub-cultures. I wouldn't think it strange for a group defined by its sexuality to openly discuss its sexuality.

I've also heard people say that people who claim to be bisexual are really just kidding themselves.

Also I've heard that gay people are evil and must be punished, so there's a broad spectrum of views. Personally, I don't see the need for a distinction: go with whoever you fancy. I've never fancied a man yet but I don't think I'd be freaked out if I ever did. I hope not, though. Kissing stubble is weird.

I think it's just that people tend to hang out with people of the same sexuality as them, because otherwise they'd never get dates, so they end up acting similarly because they have their own little sub-cultures. I wouldn't think it strange for a group defined by its sexuality to openly discuss its sexuality.yeah, but I'd tend to try to avoid being quite as open about it when around someone of another orientation. failing that, I'd at least try to be quiet about it with someone I don't know well enough to know how they'd react to it.

I guess there's the argument that people would be too used to it to really think twice, but I'd think a considerate person would try not to go too in depth about it if they're with someone they don't know very well.

There used to be a time when Shadowmoon's threads would get locked pretty quick.

Now, they get over 420 posts in under 2 months and they're still just about as unbearable as before.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36060

This thread makes me want to tear me face off. It's painful.

I really don't see how he can think he's improving loads. Does he not have eyesight?

well, comparing the first pic to the most recent he HAS improved loads. comparing the pic since he started being marginally less inept at art to his most recent? yeah, little to no difference there....

I really am trying to be nice to the guy. he's got the potential to one day be a reasonable person he just needs to get over himself...which isn't looking like it's gunna happen....maybe I should just give up and go back to being an ass to him :p

Seems like shadowmoon might be "leaving" again. But we all know what that means :p

Seems like shadowmoon might be "leaving" again. But we all know what that means :pI want to go find whoever raised him and strip the skin from their bones...

he's a good kid, he REALLY is. he's a nice guy and really needs the help of some friends. obviously he's also very lonely and just wants some approval, but we've tried damn near everything at this point and all we get is whining and moaning about how everyone hates him based on who he is. I damn near to ripping my hair out in frustration. I WANT to see him get better....I want nothing more than to see him become a decent member of the community, I really do.

This whole Shadowmoongate thingy reminds me of a Simpsons episde - the one where the kids are all placed under curfew and Wiggum says lines such like "The moral of the story is the adults always win!" and "Let this be a lesson to you - kids never learn!"

lol, I'm not sure which of those sentences is more insulting and which is more true :p

anyway, I'm off to sleep. my head hurts enough for one day....

This whole Shadowmoongate thingy reminds me of a Simpsons episde - the one where the kids are all placed under curfew and Wiggum says lines such like "The moral of the story is the adults always win!" and "Let this be a lesson to you - kids never learn!"

Really? Because it reminds me of the episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Seven of Nine sees a whole bunch of conspiracy theories that aren't there.

Apparently one of the new rules which I wasn't made aware about is that it's perfectly fine to spam the hell out of a thread on the forum, as long as you created it: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=652515&postcount=475

And 13yo's in my day certainly didn't use language like that :p Back when I were a lad....

[Idiocy, thy name is Shadowmoon (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=652665&postcount=35)]. Or Shad. Or Betsy. On the off-chance that this incredibly well-written post is somehow deemed unsuitable by the esteemed Moderating staff, I have quoted it below.
I'd like to submit a Write-In vote for Shadowmoon.Actually, you can look at the poll and submit yourself a smack on the head, there is no Shadowmoon on there!:rolleyes:

D'oh!

--------------------------- (lines)

Someone's spamming the forum again. Tch.

It would appear to be Cheech's crowd again. Although they cunningly circumvented the premoderation... by posting a few sensible posts beforehand.

Self-explanatory (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=652262#post652262)

I used to act like a big noob. Remember when i posted that ideas for worms thread, and i got people to focus on my weapon ideas? man, i look back at that thread and think what the ****?How odd, I still have the same reaction whenever I look at any of his recent threads. Go figure huh?

That looks like.. Squirtle without the shell >_>
which basically describes mudkip...
No. Mudkip has no shell.
https://webspace.utexas.edu/warnerwt/picard-facepalm.jpg

I'm going to start giving these out to anyone who posts a particularly dumb post:

http://stuff.benpaddon.co.uk/shadowmoonaward.gif

You are welcome to do the same.

I've still got my own personal trophy graphics for that use :p

Yes, but this one has a giant brain on it. It's ironic!

That's of slightly "higher quality" and marginally less insulting than the franpa alerts. :p

I think it should be a bit smaller and with transparent background.

Edit:
Like this:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6391/tsafcbee3.png

Feel free to link to this one.

infinitely better :)

Oh yes. Tons.

Oh yes. Tons.well it is. it's much less painful to look at.

I know, I was agreeing.

I know, I was agreeing.oh....sounded like sarcasm...

I'm quite certain it didn't sound like anything, what with it having been written and all :P

I'm quite certain it didn't sound like anything, what with it having been written and all :PI should kill you in your sleep...

But then they'll mistake it for old age!

No, Dan. Nathan wouldn't have to be senile; old age is no excuse.

That trophy to me looks like a casket for ashes. We have a couple for our late dogs'. And is that sun flare correct? It looks like a cheap dance music video.

It's a slightly modified picture of a trophy I found on GIS.

[I think I've proofed my point (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=653690&postcount=118)]

That whole thread is an exercise in stupidity of you ask me.

No, Dan. Nathan wouldn't have to be senile; old age is no excuse.I meant Ben's death. :p

So many people do.

That whole thread is an exercise in stupidity of you ask me.I think it's probably the theme's fault. blame Regulator :-/

[Pokemon is teaching our kids how to have seizure (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655342&postcount=169)]

2 episodes taught people how to have seizures, which wasn't to good......

An episode in 1997 caused seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=652119&postcount=83
Lol.

An episode in 1997 caused seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy.
In Japan. Because their regulations concerning flashing images on television are much more relaxed than the US/European rules. Networks in the US and UK have systems set up specifically to parse this sort of thing out of television as it broadcasts, and 4Kids Entertainment actually cut out every other frame in sequences where this flashing occurs. Nevertheless the episode in question, translated from Japanese as "[Computer Soldier Porygon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Senshi_Porygon)]", has never been aired outside of its home country.

I was never into the television series, although I did like the games. My ex, however, was a chuffing Pokemaniac. Still is, for all I know.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=652119&postcount=83
Lol.
He had 2 more attempts, hosting it on tinypics.com but couldn't figure out that you only need one "http://" in the web address - the user deleted both posts.

Shadowmoan's been banned? What happened there?

Just about to ask that very question. I know he's been irritating, but since when did he go that far?

Or is this just a temporary had-too-many-infractions ban?

Yeah, he'll be back in a couple of weeks.

Shadowmoan's been banned? What happened there?

Just about to ask that very question. I know he's been irritating, but since when did he go that far?

Persistent spamming and flaming. He was warned at the last infraction (which was a Being Watched one) that the next one would get him a temp ban

Or is this just a temporary had-too-many-infractions ban?

Temp 20-pointer, 14-dayer

Temp 20-pointer, 14-dayerAh, so he'll be back in a couple of weeks. Hopefully it'll knock some sense into him.

Ah, so he'll be back in a couple of weeks. Hopefully it'll knock some sense into him.
... for a day or two.

There needs to be a different status name for a temp. ban.
The "BANNED" header seems like it should be more permanent.

Of course, I don't know if that's possible.

There needs to be a different status name for a temp. ban.
Shadowmooned?

Yeah, he'll be back in a couple of weeks.
boooooooooooooooo

There needs to be a different status name for a temp. ban.
The "BANNED" header seems like it should be more permanent.

Of course, I don't know if that's possible.
It would require creating a different usergroup. Trouble is, all bans are temporary (ie for spambots), until Volc comes in and permanentifies them. Not sure he'd like having to move the usergroups around as well :p

Plus I kind of like the ambiguity that the person may or may not be returning :D

I think everyone hopes they don't. :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655450&postcount=14

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655473&postcount=18

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655624&postcount=25


I don't know if McMaster is joking or not, but either way, I love it. :p

[My Glod. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655732&postcount=33)]

What the fudge is a "creamy post" anyway?

Perhaps you can tell us, Ben?

I honestly couldn't. I don't know what it means.

Mmmmm. Cream.

I don't know what that means, but I'm totally going to call those you're-acting-stupid posts "creamy" from now on.

petition to rename this thread "creamy posts on the team17 forum"

petition to rename this thread "creamy posts on the team17 forum"
Seconded.
[My Glod. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655732&postcount=33)]
I think he neither understands the word "cerebral" nor "bankruptcy".
I like that.

Creamy posts sounds like a compliment. Perhaps a creamy post is a delightful response to go on top of a solidly stupid post. Or perhaps a creamy post is one which will be turned sticky sooner or later.

Or perhaps a creamy post is one which will be turned sticky sooner or later.

D :

petition to rename this thread "creamy posts on the team17 forum"thirded! stupidity will form now on be known as cream on this forum :p

I think I know why this thread has been created... but I'll keep that to myself for now as it won't really benefit this thread.

Care to enlighten us after giving us this snippet, Thomas?

Edit: woops, meant to post in the 100%OTT, but managed to miss. Meh, it's probably relevant here.

Care to enlighten us after giving us this snippet, Thomas?

Edit: woops, meant to post in the 100%OTT, but managed to miss. Meh, it's probably relevant here.
Yes it's relevant here.


I believe that thread was created because one of yauhui's "good friends" (aka Shadowmoon) got banned and he doesn't like to see that happen, having a friend banned from the forum. As a result, he now doesn't like the mods.


Andrew, volc and I have already discussed "biased moderating" previously, when Quakerworm PMed me saying I was biased. Volc agreed that giving a bit of leeway to the "seniors" is good - but not too much (you have been warned :p)

Andrew, volc and I have already discussed "biased moderating" previously, when Quakerworm PMed me saying I was biased. Volc agreed that giving a bit of leeway to the "seniors" is good - but not too much (you have been warned :p)

we're funny though

Why dear sir your eyes seem to be popping out of your eyeballs (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655450&postcount=14)

Why dear sir your eyes seem to be popping out of your eyeballs (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=655450&postcount=14)already talked about :p

[One Britsoft developer put one of their games up on Steam, so why shouldn't Team17? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657202&postcount=138)]

Britsoft is a word now?

[One Britsoft developer put one of their games up on Steam, so why shouldn't Team17? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657202&postcount=138)]

Why is that stupid?

Why is that stupid?
"I saw an Irish fellow walking down the road handing out £50 notes and bottles of Coke to perfect strangers. Hey, Greg - you're Irish. How come you never do that?"

Why is that stupid?

That's not a valid question. Statements are stupid by default. If they want to be not-stupid then they have to justify that, and I can't see how that one isn't stupid.

[One Britsoft developer put one of their games up on Steam, so why shouldn't Team17? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657202&postcount=138)]

Picking on the new users? Elitist?

I didn't know you were Barack Obama!

HA HA HA I MADE A POLITICAL FUNNY! (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657289&postcount=326)



Hang on, no, I support Obama. He's not elitist!

I was going to report you for posting game hacks, but I thought the better of it. You're in a much better position to get your own back for those kind of shenanigans.

Sidenote: A lot of the people I know here in the States support Obama, but they aren't sure why. It's very easy to draw parallels with Harold Saxon, although that probably says more about just how uninvolved the average American is in the politics of their homeland.

Picking on the new users? Elitist?

I didn't know you were Barack Obama!

HA HA HA I MADE A POLITICAL FUNNY! (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657289&postcount=326)



Hang on, no, I support Obama. He's not elitist!

i know he's bad at bowling and EVERYTHING

Mixing up your/you're should be a bannable offense (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657263&postcount=104)

You can tell how much this bugs me because I'm not even english.

[Tal05 is a moron (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=657426#post657426)]

[Tal05 is a moron (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=657426#post657426)]
Since volc deleted it...

a one-point infraction is pretty much only a warning.Why the warning card then?

Now Tal05 has taken to sending me PMs about how stupid I am. Gotta love it.

Edit: UGH. I've told Tal three times now not to PM me, and he's still doing it. Any way I can report PMs?

Dunno, but could you post 'em here so we can laugh? :p

Doesn't ignoring him stop him from PMing you?

Wtfs your problem?

You threw an immediate insult as soon as i misunderstood your post through no fault of my own...
and even IF someone did do that out of confusion, thats how you would react to mis-understanding?
If the misunderstanding is based on glossing over the Patently Obvious (aka "Tal05's Law") then yes.

For god sake, your 22 and acting like a 15 years old!
Im 15 so my behaviour is going to be like this, but you?!?
I forgot that age dictates behavior. Tal's off the hook, everyone!

Listen, I'll make a deal with you: You stop posting stupid things, and I'll stop drawing attention to them and calling you an idiot. Sound fair?
Well guess what, your really not acting like an adult.
Your deal sounds tempting but first give me a link to one of my posts which you class as "stupid"
Only one?

I've already called attention to your stupid posts. If you don't know by now then I have no inclination to show you again.

Do not PM me again.
yeah thought so...
Dave Hitt logic, there - I won't post a link to one of his stupid posts, therefore there aren't any. Of course.

You thought nothing. The entire point of you sending me PMs is because I've responded to several of your more stupid comments. Are you really so dense that you need me to point them out to you again?

Do not PM me again.
Or are there just no post which are stupid?

You reply now and then i'll reply back
Guh.

Edit: I don't see the point in ignoring people on forums. It doesn't change the problem, it just covers it up.

Edit 2: He just PMed me again. Will be never learn?

Heh. Whilst I'm sure I was irritating at 15, I don't remember being quite that stupid :p

In fairness, people never do what they're told, I doubt you being cocky about it will change that. :p

Now Tal05 has taken to sending me PMs about how stupid I am. Gotta love it.

Edit: UGH. I've told Tal three times now not to PM me, and he's still doing it. Any way I can report PMs?

Chuck him on your ignore list - that'll stop him from being able to PM you. If the PM's are abusive, forward them to me and action may be taken, as happened with Shadowmoon

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657760&postcount=130
By GLOD, if you ever, ever happen to temp ban Shadowmoon again, for whatever reason, you MUST use the HL2 ending speech by the gman. Has to be done.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657760&postcount=130
By GLOD, if you ever, ever happen to temp ban Shadowmoon again, for whatever reason, you MUST use the HL2 ending speech by the gman. Has to be done.you are such a dork :p

you are such a dork :p
i really like that speech

[MSPaint is just too difficult for McMaster (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657884&postcount=191)]

you are such a dork :p
Shush, you! :P

[MSPaint is just too difficult for McMaster (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=657884&postcount=191)]

He's just joking. I don't believe I've even seen :mad: used seriously.
...but you probably knew that. :p

Just so you know, by telling people they're stupid, they get defensive and they try to be snarky, which makes them write obnoxious posts, which make you call them stupid, and OH GOD IT'S A LOGIC LOOP!

...except they'll probably get banned or they'll improve eventually, so... huh.
Don't... remember... where I was going with this... :p

He's just joking. I don't believe I've even seen :mad: used seriously.
...but you probably knew that.
Shadowmoon, McMaster, Poninja et al have all used :mad: seriously. Sometimes multiple times in one post :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36676

i just started a clan called alians69 and i dont understand what u do with a clan do u fight or wut can some one plz help me

Nice work there.

I found a quote this morning which rather accurately sums up everything that goes down on the FanArt forum:

People ask for criticism, but they only want praise.

I thought they only wanted to argue.

[Now we know why WA was the finest 2D Worms game on the PC. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=659439&postcount=6)]

Well Microprose is that awesome. :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=659737&postcount=28

I want someone to reply to my post with "But if knives were banned, then only the criminals would have them!". :p

Shadowmoon is basically upset that crime exists.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=659737&postcount=28

I want someone to reply to my post with "But if knives were banned, then only the criminals would have them!". :p

Shadowmoon is basically upset that crime exists.done and done.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=660974&postcount=184

Someone kill these two.

seconded. http://http.com

[There's a special brand of Stupid that only Franpa can deliver (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36764)]

He gets knocked down, but he gets up again, you're never gonna keep him down... (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36790)

He gets knocked down, but he gets up again, you're never gonna keep him down... (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36790)

I would forgive that thread, in its entirety, if I had a mustard seed of faith in the idea that it was posted in irony.

Well, that new thread was actually not bad.
Goes well with the other "What are you...?" threads.

Also, food is good.

'Cept

a) the first OO "What are you..." thread was created for a joke, with Pickleworm and Futureworm exchanging "Eric Prydz - Call on Me"s.

b) by including "Right Now" it implies we're all sitting here eating at our computers. "What did you eat when you ate last?" makes more sense.

c) by including "Right Now", it's pretty damn obvious that he's copying off OO Listening and OO Playing.

d) he doesn't seem to understand the basic concept that continually making new threads just isn't a sensible thing to do. Fair enough, he's new, but he's not *that* new. He's been here since November, he should have got it out of his system by now.

e) even if it was a good thread, it's "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. We're automatically going to be prejudiced against any new thread he makes now, and the only way to counter this is if he resolves not to post a thread for several months so our prejudices calm down.

I would quote Yakuza here on a post he made on Shadowmoon's "How about a wrestling worms game", but apparently the thread was deleted. :p
It was about how thread creation goes:

Correct: I have an idea, I shall make a thread about it
Wrong: I want to make a thread, I shall try to come up with an idea for it.

The problem with Shadowmoon is that he often, very clearly, falls into the second one.

b) by including "Right Now" it implies we're all sitting here eating at our computers. "What did you eat when you ate last?" makes more sense.
I do that very often.
When I was living in a student's hall and later in a shared flat, my computer desk was my dining table.
e) even if it was a good thread, it's "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. We're automatically going to be prejudiced against any new thread he makes now, and the only way to counter this is if he resolves not to post a thread for several months so our prejudices calm down.
That's true.
Correct: I have an idea, I shall make a thread about it
Wrong: I want to make a thread, I shall try to come up with an idea for it.

The problem with Shadowmoon is that he often, very clearly, falls into the second one.
I think he has advanced to "I want to make a thread, I shall try to come up with a sensible looking idea that the mods don't ditch immediately. ;)

Woah, team17.tk is getting intense. There's only 38 members but shadowmoon is nearing 4,000 posts on it.

He gets knocked down, but he gets up again, you're never gonna keep him down... (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36790)I managed to get infracted in that thread before it got closed. I'm one of the cool kids now. :cool:

Shame the evidence got swept under the rug.

Woah, team17.tk is getting intense. There's only 38 members but shadowmoon is nearing 4,000 posts on it.
dang, thanks for the heads up

Ben, I have acquired a new target for you:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=662069&postcount=68

Go get him, boy!

I managed to get infracted in that thread before it got closed. I'm one of the cool kids now. :cool:

Shame the evidence got swept under the rug.

Haha yeah that posts of yours made me laugh out loud for some reason. I just wasn't expecting that reply I suppose. :p

I heard trippenz has been hellbanned.

Has he made any amusing posts, mods? Or has it just been the usual crock of sh1t?

Trippenz hasn't been banned, or at least it doesn't show up as such - he has however been relegated to the "Bad Email" usergroup for having an invalid e-mail address. Ironically, that occurred because an infraction PM e-mail notification bounced back :p

That's been in place for quite a while, he's done nothing to sort it.

When good threads go bad, they occasionally become really funny

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=662206#post662206

This post combined with the two that follow it, are hilarious. And I'm not just saying that because I cracked the joke.

Ohoho I got banned from Team17.tk. Apparently they found out my second account. :rolleyes:

And shadowmoon sent me this pm here:
Mwahahahaha
Mwahahaha you got banned from team17.tk.

Coz i thought 2 people had registered, i got Basti@n to do an IP Check- the People i got him to check for had different IP's, but he checked all IP's- i knew something was funny about mrspongeboob.....

Mwahahahahaha

Shad.

And my reply:

Meh, your loss. :cool:

:cool:


It's a shame tho since I had already gotten Shadowmoon to offer me to leave this forum if I left theirs. Of course he changed his mind only moments later. :p

Apparently they found out my second account. :rolleyes:
Meh.
Have you never heard about anonymous proxy servers? :rolleyes:

Meh.
Have you never heard about anonymous proxy servers? :rolleyes:
Too lazy. :p

Meh.
Have you never heard about anonymous proxy servers? :rolleyes:
Apparently "most" of those are banned, according to one thread by yauhui on said forum.

Apparently "most" of those are banned, according to one thread by yauhui on said forum.
Oh, are they?
All of them?
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/

Oh boy (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36858)

I just wrote this up, but I'm not sure whether I should post it. Thoughts?

Six things I don't like about Shadowmoon

1. He's pretty damn ignorant. Okay, fair enough, we can't all be geniuses, but there are certain things that stand out, like saying "We haven't covered that in school yet" for things that he could have read a book/asked his parents/Googled for to work out what we were talking about (and, as far as I'm concerned, at that age I'd have know about it already from reading around the subject). Ignorance is one thing, using it as an excuse is another.

2. Forgetting that wood is flammable. I admit that's a subset of 1, but come on.

3. He flips his opinion on something at the drop of a hat. Okay, fair enough, opinions should change with new evidence, but doing a complete 180 because of some random post suggests that all he's doing is following the crowd in a bid to be popular.

4. He keeps posting silly threads. Can't he just leave the "New Thread" button alone for, oh I dunno, six months?

5. Instead of going away, trying to work out why people don't like him, and returning with a better attitude, he just gets angry about things and... well, makes threads like this.

6. Like me he lives in Swansea, so there's the crippling fear that he'll work out where I live and turn up unannounced. "Hi, Mum, this is some guy I don't like from the Internet".

Oh gawd, my brain...

I think you should post it. You know it's pretty damn serious when even Paul doesn't like you.

I've just done something I've never done before: add someone to the Ignore list on this forum. Shadowmoon's got me that fed up of him.

(Saying that, this is mostly out of self-preservation. I need to cool down before the 20-point infractions arrive :p)

Add that in your signature as: "Achievement: Shadowmoon on Ignore List 03/08/2008"

I don't think I've got room for it :p

Oh boy (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36858)

I just wrote this up, but I'm not sure whether I should post it. Thoughts?

Has Shadowmoon tried going for the Republican nomination for President?

Has Shadowmoon tried going for the Republican nomination for President?
hurrrrrrrrrr

I've unblocked Shadowmoon now that I've calmed down a bit. Pikkul's post helped me see sense a bit. Partly because I realise now that I had a fair dose of the Shadowmoons when I started posting online (I'd say I was more knowledgeable than him, but I still posted lots, made a lot of threads, argued and got on the nerves of people like Cheech and MrLee. Funny how things come full circle.

I've unblocked Shadowmoon now that I've calmed down a bit. Pikkul's post helped me see sense a bit. Partly because I realise now that I had a fair dose of the Shadowmoons when I started posting online (I'd say I was more knowledgeable than him, but I still posted lots, made a lot of threads, argued and got on the nerves of people like Cheech and MrLee. Funny how things come full circle.yeah, and I've looked at how I used to post as well, but shadowmoon is FAR dumber than I was, and what I would imagine you were. he's very persistent in his stupidity as well.

It's just that he asks why people don't like him, so we tell him, and he suddenly gets all indignant on us and denies all the things we've said when he was asking us to explain it to him... *sigh* it's hopeless...

hurrrrrrrrrr
seriously dude that joke was terrible even by internet standards

Funny how things come full circle.
Well, at least in a few years we have the pleasure to remind Shadowmoon of his current behaviour when the future noobs will join and get on Shadowmoon's nerves. :)

I think he'll drastically change to the better once he realizes that he is the current leader of the noobs on the forum, following the tradition of Plasma and franpa.

Those two were the target of ongoing jokes and running gags and were branded as unintelligent, spamming noobs.
But look at them now! They are actually bearable now. ;)

I've unblocked Shadowmoon now that I've calmed down a bit. Pikkul's post helped me see sense a bit. Partly because I realise now that I had a fair dose of the Shadowmoons when I started posting online (I'd say I was more knowledgeable than him, but I still posted lots, made a lot of threads, argued and got on the nerves of people like Cheech and MrLee. Funny how things come full circle.

I didn't mean to be a complete absolution of his sins. He's been like that an unusually long time. And he's kept up his initial "yay I'm on a forum :D" spamming spree basically since he started. So he definitely needs to take some of the blame :p

[Shadowmoon has no concept of perspective (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=663651&postcount=34)]

[Animal, vegetable, mineral, or potato (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=663835&postcount=384)]

[Shadowmoon has no concept of perspective (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=663651&postcount=34)]

I knew about perspective in primary school. Wasn't any good at it (I'm probably still not good at it), but I knew what it meant. We were taught about it.

Has something gone wrong with the education system since the last time I looked?

I didn't mean to be a complete absolution of his sins. He's been like that an unusually long time. And he's kept up his initial "yay I'm on a forum :D" spamming spree basically since he started. So he definitely needs to take some of the blame :p

True, fair enough, but it does make me look at him in a slightly different light. He's still a complete idiot, but he's not a hateable complete idiot, just an undesirable one.

Has something gone wrong with the education system since the last time I looked?

Yes, they've forgotten the purpose of primary school.

Yes, they've forgotten the purpose of primary school. education.

I think is more correct. If current trends continue, the A-levels will be as worthless as GCSEs in a few years. Not that it effects me anymore, but still.

I did isometric, perspective and orthogonal (I think that was what it was called) diagrams in graphics properly when I was 11, and had already done the basics of drawing diagrams with perspective before that.

I think he'll drastically change to the better once he realizes that he is the current leader of the noobs on the forum, following the tradition of Plasma and franpa.

Those two were the target of ongoing jokes and running gags and were branded as unintelligent, spamming noobs.
But look at them now! They are actually bearable now. ;)

no, no they're not

Indeed - the existence of the Franpa Alert System™ is evidence enough of that.

Also: What the Hell is up with Plasma? Someone needs to give that stick up his **** a good yanking, or failing that twist it around a little so it's less uncomfortable.

I wrote this in the Olympics thread to Shadowmoon. I'm saving this here, in case it gets moderated. It's how I feel now... I'm impressed at his completely and utter disinterest in growing as a human being. It's sad. It's pitiable. It's... Shadowmoon.

Wow, you're incredibly lazy and also cerebrally bankrupt. The two appear to be working in tandum. Quite impressive - it's as if you know you're a braindead Magikarp who has no interest in self-improvement. This does not bode well for your future. I predict years of mediocrity. I predict you spending your life doing a job you hate, never thinking that maybe it's possible for you to exceed your own expectations and grow as an individual.

I now have more pity for you than I thought was possible. There is no trophy for this, no prize, no congratulations, no joke. You are simply a pathetic example of humanity. If you cannot better yourself in your own eyes, you cannot better yourself in the eyes of humanity.

Think about this. In your current state you are a burden, a leech, a bottom-feeder. I hope for your sake that you change as you grow older.

On the topic of that thread, this post just has to be preserved for generations to come:

IIRC, i think there's a london 2012 olympics.

Is this what this is about?

[Hilarity (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=664075&postcount=21)]

He's threatened to ignore me again.