this forum has a distinct lack of good artists.....so I've decided to add to that problem :p

I'm bored, worms are easy and fairly quick, and I actually generally have reason to complete worms art, so I figure I'll do a bit.

this time around, I think I'll do mostly sigworms. feel free to request, and I'll do you if I feel like it, but no guarantees. I think I'll generally TRY to keep to the list of requests, but I may not feel like drawing some sigs.

and in good faith, I'm submitting this sigworm I decided to do regardless of request or whatever. here ya go S2K. enjoy your sigworm done by me. this is based on the movie poster I found on google here (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/22/terminator2.jpg). decided not to do the scope, as I'm lazy.

Huzzah! More good arts!
And this time not covered in an unneccessary blob of light effects.

I like the metal effect a lot.
Also, Draw Me! :p

Looks good. How many years has it been since you started an art thread? :p

interesting! I'll be looking this.

Huzzah! More good arts!
And this time not covered in an unneccessary blob of light effects.

I knew it was missing something!

30854

There we go, much better...

Looks good. How many years has it been since you started an art thread? :papparently, it's been almost exactly 1 year.

and andrew: thank you! I KNEW there was something missing from that image :p

I love you now, Aku.

meh meh meh!

look at my signature for my character profile... thats my sig

thanks ;)

apparently, I need to learn to draw clouds :p

so, who next?

apparently, I need to learn to draw clouds :p

so, who next?
*huffMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Aku, the effects you put into your pictures really are amazing, especially the water on the first picture of your last thread.

Aku, the effects you put into your pictures really are amazing, especially the water on the first picture of your last thread.and yet at the time the only thing anyone said about it was that the picture sucked because the worm wasn't bending enough.

thanks though, melon. good to get compliments for once, rather than flamed for half-decent art.

I'll say the worms suck. :mad:

Just for old times sake! :D



Actually, they look rather dandy.

Good one there, but I specially love that background. (anyone else noticed the "lol"?)

And requests? I shall attempt.

apparently, I need to learn to draw clouds :p

so, who next?
Subliminal messages are always a hit. ;)

Yarrr, good to see you drawing worms again.
Draw Muscular Worm if you feel like drawing Muscular Worm.

Draw Muscular Worm if you feel like drawing Muscular Worm.
Draw a muscular worm instead. I'd really like to see it, because I don't know what muscles a worm does have.

This old chesnut eh?

so, Plasma, Metal Alex, then Liketty. and I believe that was a request from Trax as well, as odd as that is :p

and as for you, faraz. I refuse your request on the grounds that subliminal advertising is bad :p

Please Draw me :D

Draw a muscular worm instead. I'd really like to see it, because I don't know what muscles a worm does have.
*ahem* (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=580495&postcount=68)

apparently, I need to learn to draw clouds :p

so, who next?
YAY that's awesome. Because it has me in it. :cool:
:p

*ahem* (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=580495&postcount=68)
Now try that without arms!

Now try that without arms!

He can try... but the awesome ratio would decrease.

This old chesnut eh?
holy hell where did you come from

This old chesnut eh?
And another rises from the dead.
...and as for you, faraz. I refuse your request on the grounds that subliminal advertising is bad :p
Subliminal advertising is the way of the future! The future! Also, was it really a request? :p

this would've gone in my halloween thread, but it went down the tubes so fast I doubt anyone knows it exists...but anyway:

Happy Halloween!

Hehe. I remember that.

Try to fight down your laziness and keep on going. There is a distinct lack of art around this forum, but this is good.

I'm liking the expression in that last one too. :D

Try to fight down your laziness and keep on going. There is a distinct lack of art around this forum, but this is good.well, as long as I don't start getting flamed for any form of art, good or bad, then I'll continue :p I can't promise the frequency will remain the same (in fact, I can promise the opposite), but I can say that I'll keep drawing stuff randomly.

well, as long as I don't start getting flamed for any form of art, good or bad, then I'll continue :p I can't promise the frequency will remain the same (in fact, I can promise the opposite), but I can say that I'll keep drawing stuff randomly.
But we can still flame you for your posts, right?
:p

I still like your art, keep it up! :)
+ Who fell off the log?

this would've gone in my halloween thread, but it went down the tubes so fast I doubt anyone knows it exists...but anyway:

Happy Halloween!

I recognise AT and you, but I'm struggling with the green-afro worm.

Good stuff, though :)

I still like your art, keep it up! :)
+ Who fell off the log?that was going to be paul, but I realized that falling off the log would leave no room for detail, so feel free to substitute anyone :p

I recognise AT and you, but I'm struggling with the green-afro worm.that's philby. you'll notice the hat in his hands that he's chewing on.

so apparently I finished Plasma as well now. here ya go. I'll host it on dA in the morning when I have time. for now, it's work.....:(

meh meh! Meh!!!

Huzzah! More godly goodness!

...what is that stuff, anyway?

Huzzah! More godly goodness!

...what is that stuff, anyway?well most of what's on the screen is rocks, obviously :p

but seriously, the blue is from the Magic: The Gathering cards they did somewhat recently where you can pay a low cost for a powerful card by delaying how long it takes to play. all of the cards with the mechanic like that include the creature or whatever it is stepping through a barrier of blue energy of some sort. so I did that here. it just basically looked cooler this way.

edit: apparently Metal Alex is next in line.....what the hell is your sigworm? :p

but seriously, the blue is from the Magic: The Gathering cards they did somewhat recently where you can pay a low cost for a powerful card by delaying how long it takes to play. all of the cards with the mechanic like that include the creature or whatever it is stepping through a barrier of blue energy of some sort. so I did that here. it just basically looked cooler this way.
Hey, I never actually noticed that! And this is coming from a guy that bought a full suspend deck!

Hey, I never actually noticed that! And this is coming from a guy that bought a full suspend deck!wow! way to be observant :p I've got ONE suspend card, and I've looked at a few online, and I noticed the trend :p

I: Bad at art
You: Good at art
I: Request please

I always arrive late at these things.
*Budges*
Hey, look at who is first in the request line! :p

that's philby. you'll notice the hat in his hands that he's chewing on.Oh, I wondered why he was eating a pile of purple pancakes.

No sarcasm intended there.

Oh, I wondered why he was eating a pile of purple pancakes.

No sarcasm intended there.HAHA!! that's great! :D

Aku, you seem to love special effects. (And by the looks of the Plasma one, Lost in Space as well.)

Aku, you seem to love special effects. (And by the looks of the Plasma one, Lost in Space as well.)wow, you've managed to completely ignore both this thread and most of my other art :p

what other art?

what other art?all the other art I've made over the years. more specifically, the last art thread I did where everything had some sort of special effects on it, unlike this thread which has almost no special effects so far.

wow, you've managed to completely ignore both this thread and most of my other art :p
How do you define special effects then?

unlike this thread which has almost no special effects so far.
Bwahahah! Good ol' Aku.

How do you define special effects then? look at all the fire and shiny stuff of my last thread. that pretty much is ALL special effects. my point was that you're saying I sure do like special effects in the thread that uses very little, whereas you've apparently COMPLETELY missed the last thread I did, in which just about everything was special effects.

I could have called you captain obvious if that would get the point across better?

and the part you missed on this thread was your reference to lost in space, btw.

Bwahahah! Good ol' Aku.well, this one really doesn't :p look at the last thread. all I've got on this one is the clouds coming off of angelus. I guess the blue field on yours COULD count, but that's just a layer of color, so I don't really call that a special effect.

hey aku
can you draw me please?
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/991/screenshot7xw4.png

thats almost a perfect version of what my sig worm looks like except from a bit less chubby and the hair should be spiked up only (so no outward spikes)

thanks m8y

hey aku
can you draw me please?
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/991/screenshot7xw4.png

thats almost a perfect version of what my sig worm looks like except from a bit less chubby and the hair should be spiked up only (so no outward spikes)

thanks m8yya know? I think I'm going to do that one at some point, despite the fact that I have no idea who you are, just because I like the sig design :p

also, I should have the next image done tonight at some point.....assuming I can bring myself to do the annoying text effect I want....

ya know? I think I'm going to do that one at some point, despite the fact that I have no idea who you are, just because I like the sig design :p

also, I should have the next image done tonight at some point.....assuming I can bring myself to do the annoying text effect I want....

thanks man :D

what program do you use to do your pictures?

look at all the fire and shiny stuff of my last thread. that pretty much is ALL special effects. my point was that you're saying I sure do like special effects in the thread that uses very little, whereas you've apparently COMPLETELY missed the last thread I did, in which just about everything was special effects.
The dithering (Before you say 'congratulations! blah blah blah ignorant blah blah blah sarcasm blah blah', I'm talking about how the blue gets lighter near his hand) kind-of registers as a special effect in my mind, sorta because it looks like it reminds me of stop-motion animation. (Don't ask why.)
and the part you missed on this thread was your reference to lost in space, btw.
I read the MTG tidbit, but it really resembles the Lost in Space thing.

The dithering (Before you say 'congratulations! blah blah blah ignorant blah blah blah sarcasm blah blah', I'm talking about how the blue gets lighter near his hand) kind-of registers as a special effect in my mind, sorta because it looks like it reminds me of stop-motion animation. (Don't ask why.)meh, not much of a special effect, but I guess that's more down to just individual opinions.

I read the MTG tidbit, but it really resembles the Lost in Space thing.ok, so you read the MTG bit, but you still insisted that I was referencing Lost in Space? did you not take into account that I was only referencing the thing I SAID I was referencing?

hell, I've not even SEEN lost in space (well, I've seen bits and peices, but not the whole movie).

hell, I've not even SEEN lost in space (well, I've seen bits and peices, but not the whole movie).
It sucks, don't watch it.

It sucks, don't watch it.
He's right, it's not worth it.

Well, it may not even be related on any scale to Lost in Space but you can't stop it from reminding me of it. :p

DUAL REQUEST!!!! :eek::eek:

this one pretty well explains itsself. if you don't know what it's based on then you live in a hole :p

and no, not saying trax is evil, but muscular worm definitely doesn't look evil, and since trax was next in line, he got the part :p

Nice art. The special effects seems to be toned down a bit as well. :p
Also, I request.

Great to see a return on your art Aku.
=Shiny
Request'd.
But your special effects are cool.

I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do this morning, so I started on pigbuster's request. got mostly finished with it, so I figured I'd finish up this afternoon, so here's yet another request fulfilled today.

and before you ask: if you don't know what's on PB, you don't need to know, so don't ask :p

There's grass immediately outside a sewage treatment plant?

There's grass immediately outside a sewage treatment plant?I knew I would get that question :p

and yes, in pleasantville, there's grass just outside of a sewage treatment plant. :p that's what makes it pleasant.

Huzzah!

You always seem to be the only one that actually uses my character traits. :p

There's grass immediately outside a sewage treatment plant?
It's obviously very well fertilised :p

Phew... for a second there I tought this thread got closed....



:p

At first I thought the black stuff on PB were leeches. Now it looks more like incinerated poop.
I'll be quiet now. :p

At first I thought the black stuff on PB were leeches. Now it looks more like incinerated poop.
I'll be quiet now. :pwell I guess I could've made it a lighter brown, but let's just go with it's really old and crusty :p

I thought a dandelion outside of a sewage plant would be horribly mutated... I like the grass!

I thought a dandelion outside of a sewage plant would be horribly mutated...
...I don't even know what a horribly mutated dandelion would even look like.
But no, it most likely wouldn't.

Why would there be radioactive waste in a sewage treatment plant in the first place?
...I don't even know what a horribly mutated dandelion would even look like.
Probably something along the line of this:
http://torymedstudent.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cannabis.thumbnail.jpg

Why would there be radioactive waste in a sewage treatment plant in the first place?
You've been watching a bit too much cheesey TV there Faraz. Organisms mutate from a large array of causes, from hazardous chemical leakage (presumably for this case) to everyday general occurances.

But come on. Mutation by fecal matter? It's like something out of a B movie.

But come on. Mutation by fecal matter? It's like something out of a B movie.
*sigh*
No, not mutation by fecal matter, mutation by the chemicals used to treat the sewage, leaking into the soil.

Of course, like I said, that would just kill the plant straight off, if anything. There's a slight chance that it would mutate, if plants were really that mutatable (aside from a colour change from drinking coloured water).

btw, just want to let everyone know I'm taking a few days off. after the time spent drawing those last 2 images and the ones before them all in such rapid succession my wrist is bugging me a bit, so to avoid getting some horrible ailment just to continue on with my list of requests, I'm going to take a break from the art (and computer gaming too a bit, but that doesn't effect anyone but me :p). it'll only be a few days I figure, but still figured I'd let you know so no one thinks this thread is dead or something.

While your off, try to draw clouds! :D


Seriously.

While your off, try to draw clouds! :D


Seriously.what part of "my wrist is bothering me, I won't be drawing" didn't you understand?

what part of "my wrist is bothering me, I won't be drawing" didn't you understand?

I think it was the "I won't be drawing" part. Just a guess :p

Come on Aku, we all know the real reason why your wrist hurts. ;)

what part of "my wrist is bothering me, I won't be drawing" didn't you understand?

oof.

I actually stopped reading at the "..and the ones before them all in such..." part :p

*hides in shame*

Leaving for a day or two won't make anybody think the thread is dead.

Come on Aku, we all know the real reason why your wrist hurts. ;)
:rolleyes:

Come on Aku, we all know the real reason why your wrist hurts. ;) I'm married. :p I'll just leave it at that.

Leaving for a day or two won't make anybody think the thread is dead.well, I SHOULD only be leaving for a couple days, but I'm taking the break until my wrist feels better. I estimate a couple of days, but don't know for certain.

hey akurukrykorurkyoku after your wrist is no longer in shambles please draw me :)

I'm married. :p
This is a good example of a time when you should really stop talking...

:p

hey akurukrykorurkyoku after your wrist is no longer in shambles please draw me :) worm with black glasses, correct? anything else on you?

This is a good example of a time when you should really stop talking...

:pyou'll notice that I did, in fact, stop talking at that point :p

worm with black glasses, correct? anything else on you?

i frequently can be found skateboarding and/or listening to eric prydz - call on me on an iPod or hot sound system

just want to point out the new avatar. my wrist is feeling a tad better so I figured I'd test myself on something minor. still gunna continue the hiatus for a few days as better =/= perfect.

just want to point out the new avatar. my wrist is feeling a tad better so I figured I'd test myself on something minor. still gunna continue the hiatus for a few days as better =/= perfect.

WOOOOOO go the new avatars :D

WOOOOOO go the new avatars :D

Damn it, now I have to make a new avatar just so I can be cool. :(

Damn it, now I have to make a new avatar just so I can be cool. :(
Same here. But the problem is if I have a new one it still doesn't make me cool. :(

Same here. But the problem is if I have a new one it still doesn't make me cool. :(at least we didn't have to say it :p

What's this about new avatars?

What's this about new avatars?
its u, your the new avatar

well, seeing as I'm back now and what-not, I figure I'll either do something christmasy or just continue on with the requests.....I'll decide which gets done first later on, but either way I should be good to continue with teh arts!

also, CHRISTMAS AVATAR!

hey, I just noticed it! its nice!

p.s. you can light a fire while it is snowing?? :eek:

p.s. you can light a fire while it is snowing?? :eek:uh....yeah....yeah I can....why is that so amazing? how do you think people stayed warm in the winter months for the thousands of years before heaters?

p.s. you can light a fire while it is snowing?? :eek:
You can do anything and everything while it's snowing. The fact that it is doesn't change anything. It's like saying, "You sat down while it is snowing??"

I'm not entirely sure how it's better if he says that, but okay!
Well that's another side of yuahui we didn't want to know about. :(

Well that's another side of yuahui we didn't want to know about. :(excuse me kind sir, but I've just searched through this thread and that post doesn't exist here :p

A lot of posts seem to be dissapearing lately...
But yeah, that post was there. And there was also a post by yauhui that was rather... revealing. :p

Why do people keep replying to posts as I'm deleting them :mad:

Why do people keep replying to posts as I'm deleting them :mad: because you aren't supposed to edit the perfection that is my thread :p

anywho, here's Tal05's pic.....

the gun blows, but aside from that I'm happy enough with it.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4594/tal05fk7.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tal05fk7.jpg)

Hah cool! Makes me think of that game Bioshock, with the whole electricity coming out of the hands thing. The glowing effect is win.

Hah cool! Makes me think of that game Bioshock, with the whole electricity coming out of the hands thing. The glowing effect is win.fireworks is good with glows. makes things really easy on my end :D click a button and instant cool glow effect

Now that is :cool:.

because you aren't supposed to edit the perfection that is my thread :p

anywho, here's Tal05's pic.....

the gun blows, but aside from that I'm happy enough with it.


that is AmaZIN!11!11!!1111!!!!!!!!!

The perspective is amazin and the graphics are wkd!

10.5/10!

because you aren't supposed to edit the perfection that is my thread :p

anywho, here's Tal05's pic.....

the gun blows, but aside from that I'm happy enough with it.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4594/tal05fk7.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tal05fk7.jpg)
Umm, is that a Helghan?

Umm, is that a Helghan?I assume that it's not as it wasn't intended to be :p

if it is, then I appologize for any offended Helghans.

Umm, is that a Helghan?

can i ask what a helghan is?

can i ask what a helghan is?
They're the enemies from Killzone. I'm not sure if I used the right form of the word Helghast...

They're the enemies from Killzone. I'm not sure if I used the right form of the word Helghast...

I thought that's what the word was supposed to be! But I remembered them being Helghast, so I didn't say anything.

I'M NOT DEAD!!!

wanted to try a different style a bit, and so I did. kinda like it, though I dunno if I want to continue using it.....bleh....

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/379/hkandslickcelliz6.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hkandslickcelliz6.jpg)
http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/HuntaKilla-and-Slick-73557922

Not bad at all
I don't think you should quit your old style, but neither quit this new one
There will be moments apropriate for both styles
Change the style some times, even if it is just once in a month, is always a good thing in my opnion :)

Looks all cel-shaded or something... I kind of like it, if not just for how unique it is.

Ehh... not so much. The lack of an outline just doesn't do it for me.

Ehh... not so much. The lack of an outline just doesn't do it for me.eh, to each their own. I happen to like certain things in that style. it works for some stuff.....not for other stuff, obviously, but for cartoony worms, I find it fits perfectly.

That worm in the pimp hat looks kind-of familiar...
Remember...REMEMBER....REEEMEMBEEEEER!!

I kinda like the outline-less look.
Keep working with it, I GUESS.

If a shadow is being cast onto Slick's head by his hat, then there should be shading on the hat. Same goes for HK's headband.
Some shaded things don't cast a shadow, like the eyebrows & feathers.
YAH.

You got better.

Keep improving.

I never noticed how female worms look male without eyelashes.

I never noticed how female worms look male without eyelashes.
Eh, it depends on the artist. For example, Mayla was able to make her character look female without them.

I never noticed how female worms look male without eyelashes.crap! I knew I forgot something! :o

That worm in the pimp hat looks kind-of familiar...
Remember...REMEMBER....REEEMEMBEEEEER!!

this?

http://cisken1.deviantart.com/art/Slick-Hot-Bug-22364339

this?

http://cisken1.deviantart.com/art/Slick-Hot-Bug-22364339you really are just dense, aren't you?

got bored. felt like drawing something.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3141/crossdressslickpf7.th.png (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crossdressslickpf7.png)

Nice, shading would've been good, but still nice. Oh and, not meaning to be a damp squib, but if a mirror replicates the image as it does, then I think the hair in the mirrored image is wrong.

Nice, shading would've been good, but still nice. Oh and, not meaning to be a damp squib, but if a mirror replicates the image as it does, then I think the hair in the mirrored image is wrong.I don't think it is, but I'm not entirely sure.

and i started to do shading but then I realized it looked incomplete with just a basic level of shading, so I deleted it. was just a quick sketch of sorts anyway.

I don't think it is, but I'm not entirely sure.

and i started to do shading but then I realized it looked incomplete with just a basic level of shading, so I deleted it. was just a quick sketch of sorts anyway.

Hmm, Well I'm fairly sure the mirrored hair is wrong. Other than that, as I said, It's good.

A lot of them are still quite emotionless. Try practicing facial expressions some more and watch some cartoony, exaggerated and stylized animation.

No eyelashes. I am not amused. :p

Eh, it depends on the artist. For example, Mayla was able to make her character look female without them.
I actually thought my character looked rather male. I don't fancy the eyelashes and thought I'd make my character without them. For some reason, I keep thinking that in order to obtain a female worm without the eyelashes was to make the eyebrows (how ironic) more thinner or something. I haven't tried that though but I might.

I need to post a little more. :o
I only seem to lurk around the Fanart section now.

And about your drawings, I love how you always get a realistic and really well done background along with the perspective. The style of the worms is really good as well. Just needs a little work on the emotions. :D

I actually thought my character looked rather male. I don't fancy the eyelashes and thought I'd make my character without them. For some reason, I keep thinking that in order to obtain a female worm without the eyelashes was to make the eyebrows (how ironic) more thinner or something. I haven't tried that though but I might.

I need to post a little more. :o
I only seem to lurk around the Fanart section now.

And about your drawings, I love how you always get a realistic and really well done background along with the perspective. The style of the worms is really good as well. Just needs a little work on the emotions. :D

No eyelashes is exactly what I did!
So I gave her longer hair instead.

figure I'll link this here, but this is the billboard in the background of the feb FAoTM entry I did.

http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Slorg-Ownar-The-Musical-77914640

I guess you finished it already.
:D

...
meh i request
choose any worm from my sig
:p

...
meh i request
choose any worm from my sig
:pright. black worm with white outlines ala Game N Watch. the one we all know you as :p

I'll draw you as soon as I think of something to do with you.

no requests for today. after talking to philby in the feb FAoTM thread I had the idea to try out some line-art with no color or detail or anything else to work on more fluid poses. I copied a few poses from HK and philby and then went and searched dA for some characters in spiffy poses and did a couple of those. then I put a crazy guy on the bottom cause I was bored :p

big version here: http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/pose-practice-79069324

It looks great! Looks just like the concept art for W3D, IIRC.

It looks great! Looks just like the concept art for W3D, IIRC.thanks. I just wish the worms themselves looked that good :p

Yes, that's a lot better. Your worms look a lot more alive with those expressions. :)

Yes, that's a lot better. Your worms look a lot more alive with those expressions. :)good. I'll try to work out some new poses. this time around though, I'll take some suggestions. what sort of poses do you guys wanna see? this will just be line art, of course.

Why not try drawing all (not all of us, actually.) of the forum members in different poses?:)

Or try a worm crying, or a scared worm. I think I never saw you make one of those.

Akuryou, can you draw me? :)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3009/03032008910se2.th.jpg

I'm sorry that bad picture (my camera is broken so I took that picture on my phone camera) and I'm sorry my bad english ^^'

Akuryou, can you draw me? :)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3009/03032008910se2.th.jpg

I'm sorry that bad picture (my camera is broken so I took that picture on my phone camera) and I'm sorry my bad english ^^'you'll have to get a better picture. I can't see that one well.

okay. I try to get better picture

http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03032008910se2.jpg

how about now?

that'll work well enough. I'll get you after ShockDude

I must say that the change is impressive. They really look much dynamic and cartoony, as it fits in worms. I'd also use simple colors more than complex textures. Also, try me anytime if you feel like it.

Nice pic you got there! :)

Hmm... Looking at your art makes me remember one of my old worm styles...(W4M style.)

so, about 2 hours ago I got bored.....this is the result....

Going back up to that line art picture... ignore the crazy guy at the bottom and look at the 6 at the top. The 2 in the centre column are fantastic. The ones in the top left and bottom right aren't, in my opinion, but I'm going to blame the problem on the bottom one on the fact that the mouth on the bottom one doesn't pose well in lineart at that angle.

The problem I have with the one in the top left is that his face seems very 2 dimensional. Even though it's just a bunch of simple lines with no shading, the centre column looks very 3D. As far as I can tell from the pose, the "centre line" on the guy in the top left is wrong, his eyes aren't in the centre of his face, and despite the small extrusion by his lip, I don't feel that his lips stick out and that his bottom lip is more inside his face than his lower lip. This mainly applies to the left hand side of his face (well OK, his right hand side, the one away from the edge).

Mind you, I'm not sure if I'm the best one here to give art advice. I still make all sorts of basic errors.

A lot better! (except for Metaknight. There's a certain... thing... when you try to transform a spherical creature into a worm)
The only thing I have to say against it is that you still don't take advantage of cartoon worms' inhuman elasticity in their facial expressions.

It's certainly an improvement.

Well done.

You can still do a lot better though. You're still clinging to your ancient sprite model.

Copying is good for practice, but I'd like to see you draw some poses from scratch.

Copying is good practise, but in my opinion better practise is learning.

You can learn very much from copying. That's how I built my drawing style, by copying several people, and then, add my own stuff. :p

I didn't know anyone who draw worms, so I learn drawing them. :P But someone learn from copying and someone without copying. :P

Nice pic you got there! :)

Hmm... Looking at your art makes me remember one of my old worm styles...(W4M style.)


I use much W4M style :)

Going back up to that line art picture... ignore the crazy guy at the bottom and look at the 6 at the top. The 2 in the centre column are fantastic. The ones in the top left and bottom right aren't, in my opinion, but I'm going to blame the problem on the bottom one on the fact that the mouth on the bottom one doesn't pose well in lineart at that angle.not sure on the bottom right one. looks fine to me, but do let me know if the problem you're seeing with it comes to mind more clearly. I'd be willing to go back over it.

The problem I have with the one in the top left is that his face seems very 2 dimensional. Even though it's just a bunch of simple lines with no shading, the centre column looks very 3D. As far as I can tell from the pose, the "centre line" on the guy in the top left is wrong, his eyes aren't in the centre of his face, and despite the small extrusion by his lip, I don't feel that his lips stick out and that his bottom lip is more inside his face than his lower lip. This mainly applies to the left hand side of his face (well OK, his right hand side, the one away from the edge).yeah, that one was the first I did based on one done by philby, who uses a vastly different style of worms than I do. so I was trying my best but he still came out looking.....wrong....and I couldn't place why. thanks.

Mind you, I'm not sure if I'm the best one here to give art advice. I still make all sorts of basic errors.well all I need is basic advice. I've got the details part down, it's the basic line-art shapes that are screwing me up.

A lot better! (except for Metaknight. There's a certain... thing... when you try to transform a spherical creature into a worm)yeah, I got bored :p

You can still do a lot better though. You're still clinging to your ancient sprite model. what? I like short-tailed worms. is that a crime? in what way am I clinging to the sprite model? if you don't like the style that's fine, but why is it a problem that I have a shape of worms I like? I'm practicing making them more fluid, so that should be fixed soon enough, hopefully, but the shape itsself isn't a problem. the worms just standing around don't look bad, it's the fact that that's all they ever do.

Copying is good for practice, but I'd like to see you draw some poses from scratch.well this was just practice. I have to start somewhere and I chose to do so by copying other artists. if you haven't noticed, I've asked for ideas here of what sorts of poses I should do. those I'll be doing from scratch.

You can learn very much from copying. That's how I built my drawing style, by copying several people, and then, add my own stuff. :p

Yeah, I copy too. But really, sometimes I don't like doing it because I think the artist who made the original style hates me.:(

I copy too, but seldom :P

what? I like short-tailed worms. is that a crime? in what way am I clinging to the sprite model? if you don't like the style that's fine, but why is it a problem that I have a shape of worms I like? I'm practicing making them more fluid, so that should be fixed soon enough, hopefully, but the shape itsself isn't a problem. the worms just standing around don't look bad, it's the fact that that's all they ever do.
This is you problem:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9133/exhibitamn3.png

And if that isn't clear enough:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8394/exhibitbxo8.png

The proportions are exactly the same.

Consider the fact that I am subscribing to this thread a compliment.

And lol at Philby's amazing execution of his point.

yes, philby, I got your point (though I didn't realize how exactly they match). you'll have to explain why that's a problem, though. I know you don't like my style and that's fine, but why is it an actual problem? is your style inherently better because it looks less like my old sprites? please, explain to me how this is a problem without telling me that you just don't like it.

Uhh... Is this is wrong?
I tried to make a short tail for a worm.

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I suppose the tail is okay, but I think it's too fat.(?):-/

Tail is okay. In my opinion it's not too fat :D

The problem I have with the one in the top left is that his face seems very 2 dimensional..
Agreed. Looking back through the start of this thread, you don't agnowledge that worms faces are round, so you make both eyes the same size as each other when looking in at an angle.

yes, philby, I got your point (though I didn't realize how exactly they match). you'll have to explain why that's a problem, though. I know you don't like my style and that's fine, but why is it an actual problem? is your style inherently better because it looks less like my old sprites? please, explain to me how this is a problem without telling me that you just don't like it.
Imagine you had to make a man out of 20 lego bricks.

Now imagine you had to draw a man.

would you use the same proportions from the lego man?

Imagine you had to make a man out of 20 lego bricks.

Now imagine you had to draw a man.

would you use the same proportions from the lego man?
Given that the structure isn't all that different between a man and a LEGO man, yes, I would.

Given that the structure isn't all that different between a man and a LEGO man, yes, I would.
are you kidding me

are you kidding me

yep, he kidding you..

Imagine you had to make a man out of 20 lego bricks.

Now imagine you had to draw a man.

would you use the same proportions from the lego man?if I managed to somehow make a man that was within the right proportions, yes :p I doubt I would be able to given the 20 blocks though.

still, I fail to see how it's relevant. humans have set proportions. worms are drawn at different proportions depending on the artist. if you have a specific suggestion of what I should be drawing bigger/smaller/whatever let me know and I'll try it out.

It means that the shape you used for the sprite is fine only because of the small size, but the larger drawn worms should vary a lot more, yet for some reason they have the same effing shape as your sprites, and that's wrong.

I agree, but in a more polite attitude :-/

I agree, but in a more polite attitude :-/
You best be joking.

It means that the shape you used for the sprite is fine only because of the small size, but the larger drawn worms should vary a lot more, yet for some reason they have the same effing shape as your sprites, and that's wrong.how can it be wrong when not a single person so far can tell me WHY it's wrong? I'm with you on the part that it should vary, but why is the shape wrong?

Well, I can't say I'm an expert, but the thing that stands out for me is that you've got the mouth and the place where the tail hinges on about the same level, which is a bit odd.

Well, I can't say I'm an expert, but the thing that stands out for me is that you've got the mouth and the place where the tail hinges on about the same level, which is a bit odd.THAT I can change. I'll experiment with a taller worm, see how it looks.

I think I already posted about the tail...

THAT I can change. I'll experiment with a taller worm, see how it looks.
That or make the tail a bit less fat. Or both. I dunno.

I think I already posted about the tail...Oh well. I know people say "show, don't tell", but sometimes it helps to do both.

how can it be wrong when not a single person so far can tell me WHY it's wrong? I'm with you on the part that it should vary, but why is the shape wrong?
The reason the shape is wrong is because it is a bad shape.

And it is a bad shape because it is wrong.

The reason the shape is wrong is because it is a bad shape.

And it is a bad shape because it is wrong.WOW! how could I have not seen that before?! *slaps forehead* THANKS PHILBY!

The reason the shape is wrong is because it is a bad shape.

And it is a bad shape because it is wrong. Its the most sound reasoning I've heard all day...no...all week!

ok, hopefully this works better for everyone. they're taller, completely drawn without basing anything on anything (except for looking up on dA a few expressions for inspiration), and I didn't press Ctrl + C or Ctrl + V even once.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9323/posepractice2sc2.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posepractice2sc2.jpg)

http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Pose-Practice-2-79867208

I like that, it's a bit different from normal worm shape, but I do like it.

I'd make the tail a little less fat in the "standing" poses like the ones in the middle row, but other than that I think it's fine.

I'd make the tail a little less fat in the "standing" poses like the ones in the middle row, but other than that I think it's fine.that's more a case of I-didn't-notice :p I like fat tails, but that one's a bit extra-fat.

ok, hopefully this works better for everyone. they're taller, completely drawn without basing anything on anything (except for looking up on dA a few expressions for inspiration), and I didn't press Ctrl + C or Ctrl + V even once.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9323/posepractice2sc2.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posepractice2sc2.jpg)

http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Pose-Practice-2-79867208 Blimey mate, you can draw:eek:

They're really good. I agree, though, the tails are still a bit stumpy. The one that's sorta jumping looks the best.

I agree, though, the tails are still a bit stumpy.that's more a personal preference on my part. I rather like the "stumpy" tails. not sure why, just a thing.

Would you mind drawing a worm with a longer tail, just to see what it looks like? I can't actually imagine it since your sprites have always been the same.

I can't actually imagine it since your sprites have always been the same.for above stated reason. though I'll do one later just for you :p

now is time for sleep.

That's certainly an improvement, but you may want to lower the tail bend significantly.

At the moment it just doesn't make any sense compared to the poses where it isn't bent.

Also you need to work on giving the eyes some sort of shape of their own, rather than just pasting them on like that.

That's certainly an improvement, but you may want to lower the tail bend significantly.

At the moment it just doesn't make any sense compared to the poses where it isn't bent.not sure what you mean by this at all.

Also you need to work on giving the eyes some sort of shape of their own, rather than just pasting them on like that.what? they have shape of their own. each worm's eyes are in position to clearly translate their mood. what more are you wanting, exactly?

once again, philby: clear communication = nice.

edit: just figured I'd come and post a quick edit of the tails. on the left is the original, the middle has a longer tail for kikumbob and the right has a "lower tail bend" as I'm assuming philby was trying to say.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3427/taileditszf2.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taileditszf2.jpg)
gotta say: I'm still liking the stumpy tails.

I have to say I prefer the one on the right :p

Yep, the far right is definitely the best. Lengthening the tail without reducing the bend just made the whole tail stupidly large.

well if enough of you find you prefer the one on the right I'll see if I can't find a comprimise or something :p as for now, I'll stick to what I prefer

edit: figured I'd play around with it a bit and I gotta say I can't really find an in-between that I like as much. I much prefer the stumpy tails.....

well if enough of you find you prefer the one on the right I'll see if I can't find a comprimise or something :p as for now, I'll stick to what I prefer

edit: figured I'd play around with it a bit and I gotta say I can't really find an in-between that I like as much. I much prefer the stumpy tails.....
You need to play more Worms 3D to prevent those stumpy tails.:p

You need to play more Worms 3D to prevent those stumpy tails.:pperhaps I've merely played too much W3D and seen too many Tail Nail victims? :p

Tail Nail is from Worms 4, haha. :p Just don't make the tail fatter than the body, that's what usually looks a little wrong on your worms. I don't really mind for the length.

Tail Nail is from Worms 4, haha. :p Just don't make the tail fatter than the body, that's what usually looks a little wrong on your worms. I don't really mind for the length.huh.....you have a point. the tail IS fatter...thanks. I'll watch that in the future.

The right is the better one.

Just saying.

not sure what you mean by this at all.

what? they have shape of their own. each worm's eyes are in position to clearly translate their mood. what more are you wanting, exactly?

once again, philby: clear communication = nice.
You need to give the eyes a definite shape. At the moment they're flat to the curve of the face.

they don't stick out at all, they have no shape. this is especially evident from the side.

The tail is a bit fat, it could do with been a little thinner.:)

You need to give the eyes a definite shape. At the moment they're flat to the curve of the face.

they don't stick out at all, they have no shape. this is especially evident from the side.ah ok. I'll give it a little shape from the sides in the future.

The tail is a bit fat, it could do with been a little thinner.:)why thank you Capt. Oblivious! you've saved the day once again!

Looks like you're tired from all that criticism.(did I spell it right?)

Looks like you're tired from all that criticism.(did I spell it right?)

yes you have spelt it right, grammar expert.

Looks like you're tired from all that criticism.(did I spell it right?)yeah, little bit :p at least some of it's sensible now, though, rather than the vague stuff I usually get.

yes you have spelt it right, grammar expert.thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to be a pedantic ass hat. in the future, please refrain from doing so in my threads if you please.

We're all just trying to help a super fanartist be even better, right guys?...

We're all just trying to help a super fanartist be even better, right guys?...har dee har har...

edit: did a picture of my worm for my character profile. figure I'd post it here as well. experimenting with variations on the body/tail size.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/469/newakuagainse2.jpg

The tail is still shorter than it should be though. In your three pics earlier, you had made the thin tail as long as the long tail, while here you made it as long as the stumpy tail, so it hardly looks like a tail at all now.

Also, I can't say I like the way you only half-outlined the eyes.

The tail is still shorter than it should be though. In your three pics earlier, you had made the thin tail as long as the long tail, while here you made it as long as the stumpy tail, so it hardly looks like a tail at all now.:-/ looks fine to me...

Also, I can't say I like the way you only half-outlined the eyes.the intent was to make a sort of anime-style. perhaps I should make the outline thicker?

:-/ looks fine to me...
That's because you're overly-fond of stubby tails.

the intent was to make a sort of anime-style. perhaps I should make the outline thicker?
I've seen a few people try to put something japanese-style on their worms, and it never really works. Mainly because the rest of the worm is drawn in a western-style.

I've seen a few people try to put something japanese-style on their worms, and it never really works. Mainly because the rest of the worm is drawn in a western-style.yeah, which was why I didn't go too heavily into the anime-style. I left the glossy-eyes and the thick, over-emphasized eye-lashes out of it. what I was originally thinking of when I did it was Wind Waker. I was trying for that sort of cartoony look for the whole style, not just the eyes, and so I took a cue from that game and made the eyes in a similar fashion......come to think of it, let me go see how they handled taller eyes. perhaps I'll get an idea on how to make the eye fit better...can't hurt to try.

Wait, I did an anime-style worm long ago, right? And I guess it came out right...:-/

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It worked.... Or not.

It made me immediately think of Online Worms, so I guess it worked. :p

I'll experiment something along those lines I guess next time.

har dee har har...

edit: did a picture of my worm for my character profile. figure I'd post it here as well. experimenting with variations on the body/tail size.
[IMG]http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/469/newakuagainse2.jpg[IMG] If you were supposed to give him a nose, then that picture succeeds VERY well. If you weren't supposed to do that, then I'm afraid all i can think of is that this worm has a nose. Either way, I don't like the bit above his mouth. And theres just the same old boring quibble about your tails.

The rest is fine. You draw really well for a sprite artist. I might even have to stop calling you a sprite artist, you sprite artist...

Wait, I did an anime-style worm long ago, right? And I guess it came out right...:-/

It worked.... Or not.
It would've been better if the background wasn't the same color as the worm. :-/

And theres just the same old boring quibble about your tails.well I did make sure the tail was the same width as the body this time, at least.

for the moment I gave up the eyes but I'm gunna experiment further along the road.

for now, though, I thought I'd try a quick edit of that last version of my sigworm. since the Paint Compo Image (here (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2796/scifipaintwormfinisheduk3.png)) was liked so much by mtl and paul I figured I'd try the varying line width thing.....is this a step in the right direction?

This is very good, even though the small problem of having a bit squiggly lines.

That is all

This is very good, even though the small problem of having a bit squiggly lines.

That is allkeep in mind this was a rather quickly-done edit of another image. after practicing with it a bit more I'll be able to get it down a little smoother. this one was just a preliminary testing to see if I'm going in the right direction.

I see. Well, it's good anyways.

for now, though, I thought I'd try a quick edit of that last version of my sigworm. since the Paint Compo Image (here (http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2796/scifipaintwormfinisheduk3.png)) was liked so much by mtl and paul I figured I'd try the varying line width thing.....is this a step in the right direction? My focus is still drawn to the bump that looks like a nose. But your drawing for the compo is fantastic! You should definitely keep experimenting towards that kind of cartoon style.

Edit: even more importantly, your stubby tail things actually works with that style!

Well that is better, now all you need is fix the eyes. I would sugges making them less square, and also I think it would help to add shiny pupils (note: No gradients please). And also make them slightly bigger than you made them.
Here be example!

I don't know, that looks somewhat anime-ish. I'd suggest just make the pupils black (Unless the eyes have colors, depending on which sigworm is drawn) and then have shine on them, you know.

My focus is still drawn to the bump that looks like a nose. But your drawing for the compo is fantastic! You should definitely keep experimenting towards that kind of cartoon style.

Edit: even more importantly, your stubby tail things actually works with that style!ok....and here I figured the worm shape on that image would've been ridiculed....I actually like the one in the paint thing better than the rest, but I avoided anything like it since everyone *****ed about the short worms and short tails...

Well that is better, now all you need is fix the eyes. I would sugges making them less square, and also I think it would help to add shiny pupils (note: No gradients please). And also make them slightly bigger than you made them.
Here be example!I can do the less square thing, but as I'd said earlier, I was avoiding actual anime eyes for a reason. they look goofy on worms.

ok, did another quick test. one with mtl's shiny-eye suggestion and one without. honestly, I like both. the shininess doesn't look too bad when done with the same anti-aliasing. and either way, I love the eye shape. thanks for that one, mtl. :D

*Looks with at the worm with shiny eyes

Awww......:p
But I gotta say, it looks good. Why don't you try making the eye shape bigger?

*Looks with at the worm with shiny eyes

Awww......:p
But I gotta say, it looks good. Why don't you try making the eye shape bigger?bigger? really? I thought it was about right myself...eh, can't hurt to see what it would look like.

Yes. Hmm... I never saw this post:
Now all you need is fix the eyes. I would suggest making them less square, and also I think it would help to add shiny pupils (note: No gradients please). And also make them slightly bigger than you made them.

So I think you should!:) Maybe just a little..

ok, did another quick test. one with mtl's shiny-eye suggestion and one without. honestly, I like both. the shininess doesn't look too bad when done with the same anti-aliasing. and either way, I love the eye shape. thanks for that one, mtl. :D Just thought I'd point out that you've done a much better job with the upper lip here :)

ok, I know I'm finally starting to get somewhere, but seriously, this whole thing is just getting annoying. once I finally start to get somewhere I'm just going to get more crap thrown my way. when I finally get to the point that I feel I'm in a good place artistically I'm just going to be ridiculed until I realize how crap everything I've ever done is and I'll have to try something wildly different just to get any form of praise and, quite honestly, I'm sick of it all. I'm tired of the ridicule and I'm tired of the constant effort. my art program isn't good enough, my technique isn't good enough, and my eye for art isn't good enough. I've had my full. from now on, I'm going to blaze a new path forward in fan art. a completely different kind of art that hopefully won't get ridiculed quite so bad. for the first one I'm going to continue on with the requests that I'd been neglecting.

and now for the first entry in Aku's Poetry Journal (btw, can a mod change the thread name, or should I just start a new thread?):

Ode to ShockDude

Shockdude dear ShockDude
so black and old school.
your avatar changes
a personal rule.
you don't care to work
you don't care to play
you don't care at all
what more could I say?
you're stuck in the middle
of a black and white road
any more neutral
and like you'd explode.
ShockDude dear Shockdude
so black and old school.
your monochrome skin
reminds us you're cool.

thank you.

Ode to ShockDude

Shockdude dear ShockDude
so black and old school.
your avatar changes
a personal rule.
you don't care to work
you don't care to play
you don't care at all
what more could I say?
you're stuck in the middle
of a black and white road
any more neutral
and like you'd explode.
ShockDude dear Shockdude
so black and old school.
your monochrome skin
reminds us you're cool.

I think the eyes are too big.

I think the eyes are too big.if you're going to be a ***** about this then just get out of my thread. I've had enough of your type for one lifetime.

if you're going to be a ***** about this then just get out of my thread. I've had enough of your type for one lifetime.

I'm sorry, I just let the envy get me. I know I can try all I want, but I'll never be a good poet. God knows I tryed, but I always failed.

However, I see you can suceed. Take the path I left long ago, and don't give up.

Nice poem!
And you were going in the right direction with the worms I think. You just have a hard time with it, unfortunately (I mean with everyone else). It's great that you're listening however, so you got that. Practice by yourself then come back and blow us away with your new-found skills!

Still, nice poem.

That be all for now.

Ode to ShockDude

Shockdude dear ShockDude
so black and old school.
your avatar changes
a personal rule.
you don't care to work
you don't care to play
you don't care at all
what more could I say?
you're stuck in the middle
of a black and white road
any more neutral
and like you'd explode.
ShockDude dear Shockdude
so black and old school.
your monochrome skin
reminds us you're cool.

thank you.
Seriously, it's like you're using the equivalent to vectors in the form of poems. It seems too mechanical and lifeless, you need more feelings in it, Aku, it needs to feel more spontaineusesque.
You suck.
That's all I have to say.

I dunno, it's not bad.

But then, I'm T17F's leading advocate of the limerick format, so poetry as high art probably isn't my field.

Nice pieces of art.

Well Aku, all I can say is THANK GOD you gave up the drawing. Yeah, your poems suck too, but they don't make my eyes bleed, they just give me an internal brain hemmoraging instead. This is better, because it means I won't be concious long enough to seriously suffer from your godawful attempts at creativity.

Umm... lets just say that at this rate, you'll start typing your poems in a green font.

... dammit, another April Fools that I completely fell for.

... dammit, another April Fools that I completely fell for.yeah, I was kinda wondering. looked like you were the only one who did so too :p

and now back to your regularly scheduled program (now with 100% more obscure referencing):

decided to experiment further with that last style since I liked it and everyone else seemed to as well. was gunna do just a bunch of random poses, but that was boring. instead, I did random sigworms in random poses/expressions.

dA link (http://xelioth.deviantart.com/art/Pose-Practice-3-81685907)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6475/posepractice3xg6.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posepractice3xg6.jpg)

Those are great! Its just Philby who looks like he has something in his right cheek.

Those are great! Its just Philby who looks like he has something in his right cheek.philby's lip a tad big? hadn't really noticed...

eh, if that's the main complaint you've got, I consider that a win :p I'm not worried about one goof too bad.

Well, .Jet does look a bit on the chubby side...:p

The truth is, I could criticize anything anyone ever does if I looked hard enough. Except Eric Clapton. Although I don't like his beard.

Well, .Jet does look a bit on the chubby side...:p

The truth is, I could criticize anything anyone ever does if I looked hard enough. Except Eric Clapton. Although I don't like his beard.well obviously nothing's going to be perfect, but I just meant major complaints. if philby's lip is the biggest issue, I'll count that a win, is what I meant.

well obviously nothing's going to be perfect, but I just meant major complaints. if philby's lip is the biggest issue, I'll count that a win, is what I meant. I'm sure .Jet will see differently...

I'm sure .Jet will see differently...confused I am? :confused:

I would've said that those kind of stubby tails are okay, until I noticed that SupSuper leaning back just a little made him look like a head on a blob.

Nice. I look OWNSOME. :cool:

F'shoom.