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Shirdel
15 Sep 2007, 08:04
What the HELL is going on? I was maknig a Pirate team and entered "Captain Hook" but it came out "Captain xxok"! What the HELL is going on? :mad:

Wormetti
15 Sep 2007, 08:15
The profanity filter doesn't like ho. Censorship sucks but unfortunately Team17 was required to add it. Whoever creates these filters should really add hook, who, shop and many other non offensive words to an acceptable list. Alternatively, they could choose to only censor ho if it's not part of another word.

parsley
15 Sep 2007, 08:48
The profanity filter doesn't like ho. Censorship sucks but unfortunately it's required. Whoever creates these filters should really add hook, who, shop and many other non offensive words to an acceptable list. Alternatively, they could choose to only censor ho if it's not part of another word.
Westward Ho?

I'm not a fan of "profanity" filtering 'cause it doesn't work. There isn't enough context to work out if something's rude so you end up with cringing stupididities like "Captian XXok" and it *still* doesn't prevent rudeness. (I also dislike the word 'profanity' because of its religious definition.)

wave
15 Sep 2007, 09:16
Westward Ho?

I'm not a fan of "profanity" filtering 'cause it doesn't work. There isn't enough context to work out if something's rude so you end up with cringing stupididities like "Captian XXok" and it *still* doesn't prevent rudeness. (I also dislike the word 'profanity' because of its religious definition.)

Westward ho! i've bee there.:)

AndrewTaylor
15 Sep 2007, 09:28
The profanity filter doesn't like ho. Censorship sucks but unfortunately it's required. Whoever creates these filters should really add hook, who, shop and many other non offensive words to an acceptable list. Alternatively, they could choose to only censor ho if it's not part of another word.

I'm amazed at the idea of censoring two-letter words and not requiring they be whole words. It's genius. There must be a hundred quite innocent words (not of course that a word can ever be intrincisally offensive to any rational being) that get caught by this. Hoe, house, hob, hot, hopscotch, hockey...

What happens if you try to use the word "crackpot"?

Shirdel
15 Sep 2007, 09:43
If I use "crackpot", it comes up normally.

Wormetti
15 Sep 2007, 09:49
Hö is not censored by the profanity filter but you can only use English alphanumeric characters in your team name. I think you could send Hö as a predefined chat message, if you really wanted to.

That character lööks like a face with it's möuth wide öpen, very appröpriate :eek:

Plasma
16 Sep 2007, 22:36
I'm amazed at the idea of censoring two-letter words and not requiring they be whole words.
Don't curse!

parsley
16 Sep 2007, 23:07
I'm amazed at the idea of censoring two-letter words and not requiring they be whole words. It's genius. There must be a hundred quite innocent words (not of course that a word can ever be intrincisally offensive to any rational being) that get caught by this. Hoe, house, hob, hot, hopscotch, hockey...

What happens if you try to use the word "crackpot"?
Don't go there. Whitelisting doesn't work... the whole concept is broken.

Is Crevice a rude word?

What about moist?

Overtly?

OvertlyMoistCrevice?

From a CS point of view, until we have human equivalent AI, it's never going to work.

Eyedunno
17 Sep 2007, 14:25
The whole thing doesn't make sense to me. Who are they protecting, anyway? I was in high school before the Internet really hit, and still, I was intimately familiar with a litany of four-letter words by the first grade of elementary school, in spite of the fact that they were strictly not in use in my household. Nowadays, with the Internet, just forget it...

This whole thing reminds me of an interview I saw from the '50s with Rod Serling. Some episode of Lassie aired where Lassie gave birth (not even on screen), and some jerk wrote in to the network saying something along the lines of "if I wanted my kid to watch sex shows, I'd take him to a cabaret!"

I get the feeling that these rules exist less to protect children in any meaningful way, and more to protect the illusions parents have about children...
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Darkspark
17 Sep 2007, 15:55
At least you get to choose your worm names.

I would have liked to a least pick from a "pre-listed" set of names for my worms to take into online matches. When a match ends, I look at the stats and trivia, and have no idea whose worms belonged to me, and which were the opponents. Least you know who Ho_ _ is.

At least a sentence saying " "Darksparks" Edebert won the darksider award" etc...

*talking about the DS version...

Eyedunno
17 Sep 2007, 16:06
At least you get to choose your worm names.

I would have liked to a least pick from a "pre-listed" set of names for my worms to take into online matches. When a match ends, I look at the stats and trivia, and have no idea whose worms belonged to me, and which were the opponents. Least you know who Ho_ _ is.

At least a sentence saying " "Darksparks" Edebert won the darksider award" etc...

*talking about the DS version...
Um, you can pick from a pre-listed set of names.

Multiplayer > Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection > Edit Online Profile > Edit Online Team > Team Name > AKA [for each member]

Press A or touch the lightbulb icon to cycle through names until you find one you like.

A little bit of a long story, but I was playing hotseat Armageddon with my friend years ago, and all my worms but one called Blobbo (a randomly chosen name) were completely annihilated by him. I taunted my friend about his attacks, saying I wasn't worried because "Blobbo is number one." I did end up beating him with only Blobbo, and ever since that game, my first worm has always been Blobbo Ichiban (ichiban is Japanese for #1). It took me a long time to cycle to it, but I managed to get Blobbo Ichiban's AKA to be Blobbo as well, which makes me very happy about my online team. :)

JammyAH
17 Sep 2007, 23:56
I spend some time cycling through all the names, then I'll play someone and think"I want that name!"

This happens about once every two days... :D

Darkspark
18 Sep 2007, 00:55
Um, you can pick from a pre-listed set of names.

Multiplayer > Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection > Edit Online Profile > Edit Online Team > Team Name > AKA [for each member]

Press A or touch the lightbulb icon to cycle through names until you find one you like.

A little bit of a long story, but I was playing hotseat Armageddon with my friend years ago, and all my worms but one called Blobbo (a randomly chosen name) were completely annihilated by him. I taunted my friend about his attacks, saying I wasn't worried because "Blobbo is number one." I did end up beating him with only Blobbo, and ever since that game, my first worm has always been Blobbo Ichiban (ichiban is Japanese for #1). It took me a long time to cycle to it, but I managed to get Blobbo Ichiban's AKA to be Blobbo as well, which makes me very happy about my online team. :)

Thanks. You have just made my day.:o

Eyedunno
18 Sep 2007, 01:30
I spend some time cycling through all the names, then I'll play someone and think"I want that name!"

This happens about once every two days... :D
I personally spent at least a half hour messing with the names the first night I played wi-fi.

Thanks. You have just made my day.:o
Glad it helped. I was very happy with it as well, since before I got it, I was thinking from reading these forums that you got different random names each time. It would have been better if you could select the names directly, but it also would have required quite a bit more code, so I understand why they didn't do that.

MrBionic
18 Sep 2007, 02:09
I ran into this as well.. I wanted my team name to be BratStreet, but it came out xxxtStreet.

They censored *Bra*.

HAHAHAHAAHHA

So I compromised with Br4tStreet

hartleyshc
18 Sep 2007, 08:56
for me, i was making a custom message to say "Hello All."
of course it ends up saying "xxxxo All."

MtlAngelus
18 Sep 2007, 11:30
I get the feeling that these rules exist less to protect children in any meaningful way, and more to protect the illusions parents have about children...
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Actually, it's because people like to have something to complain about.

enigma_0Z
18 Sep 2007, 14:12
for me, i was making a custom message to say "Hello All."
of course it ends up saying "xxxxo All."

hahahaha.... that's funny...

But seriously, the swear filter is pretty broken, it should at least take whole words... but then again, you run into a whole host of problems... but then again, people could just be l33t about things...

Whatev. it's broken.

wreithy
18 Sep 2007, 16:37
aaargh! i cant even use cracker from WWP!

punkonjunk
20 Sep 2007, 18:51
hahahaha. It filters some funny stuff. Whats even funnier - I played with it, and it's so easy to bypass with phonetical spelling. Great job T17.
Feyget, probobly even fegit. I'm sure you could use your imagination. But whatever. profantity and inapropriateness are just a silly concept. I'm sure it's not really vulgar on the magical vulgar scale if you spell it wrong.

Luther
20 Sep 2007, 18:56
hahahaha. It filters some funny stuff. Whats even funnier - I played with it, and it's so easy to bypass with phonetical spelling. Great job T17.

Thank you. Unfortunately Nintendo can take the credit, not Team17, since we didn't write it.

Namons
28 Oct 2007, 03:53
Yeah I just ran across this playing my PSP version of the game today. My sister was making a character named Miss Muffet. Well you can guess what word was blotched out. Miss xxxxet reigned the day. I find it funny that they censor user created content to get that E10 rating over here in NA. I mean, pretty much every game I know stamps that "Game Experience May Change During Online Play." to get around having to police this kind of filtering. But that's nowhere on this game. Maybe that just comes with being an E10 product. As much as I enjoy the game, if I had noticed the E10 before buying I would have thought twice about buying it. So easy to filter those out when you're old enough to not have it affect you. *smiles*

parsley
28 Oct 2007, 20:07
That's to THQ's credit, not T17.

LimeMini
30 Oct 2007, 18:18
I like that fact that the censorship of the word actually reminds you of the 'bad' word itself, which is not what it is supposed to do!

Gumshoe
13 Nov 2007, 22:24
Thats why I couldn't have Phoenix in my team of Phoenix Wright characters:(

pride
3 Dec 2007, 01:52
If you want to by pass the filter, just enter a name with a space after each letter.:cool:

rctxtreme
3 Dec 2007, 04:50
Wow, now that is really stupid. What next, umm, "xx xx xx, Merry Christmas!"

GrimOswald
3 Dec 2007, 04:59
If you want to by pass the filter, just enter a name with a space after each letter.:cool:

You do not even have to go that far, I imagine one space would be sufficient.

Wow, now that is really stupid. What next, umm, "xx xx xx, Merry Christmas!"

Haha, that made me chuckle. :D Yeah, the whole censorship thing is completely stupid. I blame the parents. :p

AndrewTaylor
3 Dec 2007, 17:51
My PhD course has a taught module on stats and it's really badly typeset. It keeps using a lower case "o" for subscript zero, which means that if p is more than 0.05, we get to "Accept Ho".

810Damage
3 Dec 2007, 19:12
The whole thing doesn't make sense to me. Who are they protecting, anyway? I was in high school before the Internet really hit, and still, I was intimately familiar with a litany of four-letter words by the first grade of elementary school, in spite of the fact that they were strictly not in use in my household. Nowadays, with the Internet, just forget it...

This whole thing reminds me of an interview I saw from the '50s with Rod Serling. Some episode of Lassie aired where Lassie gave birth (not even on screen), and some jerk wrote in to the network saying something along the lines of "if I wanted my kid to watch sex shows, I'd take him to a cabaret!"

I get the feeling that these rules exist less to protect children in any meaningful way, and more to protect the illusions parents have about children...
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Thank you I agree

Plasma
3 Dec 2007, 19:19
I get the feeling that these rules exist less to protect children in any meaningful way, and more to protect the illusions parents have about children...
Well yes, that just about sums it up. It's not like anyone under the age of 13 that swares will call forth a daemon of unfathomable power that will devour the entire planet and all who inhabit it. It's just because some parents think that swearing is wrong.
And as long as the phrase 'mother knows best' still exists, anyone who wants to remain a 'family friendly' person has to abide to those people's wishes.

This whole thing reminds me of an interview I saw from the '50s with Rod Serling. Some episode of Lassie aired where Lassie gave birth (not even on screen), and some jerk wrote in to the network saying something along the lines of "if I wanted my kid to watch sex shows, I'd take him to a cabaret!"
I know what you mean. Even on this forum, one parent was complaining to Team17 that some words on foreign speechbanks sounded like English swear words...

810Damage
3 Dec 2007, 21:01
wow is this turning out to be a big problem or what