Okay, I'm indifferent towards posts in the Positive/Negative threads about things which are neither positive nor negative that have happened to people. It makes more sense to have another thread dedicated to anything that has happened (Pets, computer trouble, whatever) rather than filling the forum up with them. So, this thread is for anything nither good nor bad that happens to you. Consequently, all discussion of everyday things that you feel neutrally about should be discussed here.

NOTE: AndrewTaylor or thomasp, could you please sticky this thread and the other one? Obviously it's upto you, but if you would like to see the positive/negative threads organised a bit better, I think this could be the answer.

It's taking quite awhile to download these Valve games, which annoys me.

But to counter it, I'm getting better, and the new Radiohead album is out tomorrow. Plus the games will be done by then.

Hey, didn't Slick make this same thread a couple of weeks ago?

He deleted it because it was apparently useless, but S2K thought it wasn't, so he remade it.
I think it's alright.
I know that I don't like posting about a slightly bad event right after a post about a death in the family. :p

I dunno, seems to me like the 100%OTT has this covered.

*bangs head on desk*

*REPEATEDLY*

Well, I have something personally that I want to discuss, but OTT100 doesn't strike mas the place to talk about it, nor do PEO or NEO. That's my Secret Reason For Making THis Thread (or SRMT).

Well, I have something personally that I want to discuss, but OTT100 doesn't strike mas the place to talk about it, nor do PEO or NEO. That's my Secret Reason For Making THis Thread (or SRMT).Well, what's stopping you? Discuss away, that's why we're here. :p

Well, I have something personally that I want to discuss, but OTT100 doesn't strike mas the place to talk about it, nor do PEO or NEO. That's my Secret Reason For Making THis Thread (or SRMT).
why didn't you just make a thread about that specific event?

Because that would be stupid. To me, at least. I don't want to make a whole thread just to discuss my thi--...

Oh.

How can we abbreviate this thread tho' - as Negative Events & Occurrences is often abbreviated to "-ve E&O" (or similar), and Positive Events & Occurrences goes to "+ve E&O"


Still want this stickied?

Still want this stickied?
If you do sticky it, put it between the negative & positive threads.
Which probably isn't possible, as the order chances with each new post.

I think we should come up with some JavaScript whereby the Positive and the Negative threads orbit the neutral one.

And I'd say sticky it and give it a month's trial. If nobody uses it it can be unstickied and forgotten about.

If you do sticky it, put it between the negative & positive threads.
Which probably isn't possible, as the order chances with each new post.
Nope, not possible, because as you said they change with each new post (in the respective thread) :p

How can we abbreviate this thread tho' - as Negative Events & Occurrences is often abbreviated to "-ve E&O" (or similar), and Positive Events & Occurrences goes to "+ve E&O"


Still want this stickied?
i think mrbunsy suggested renaming it "jiggly events and occurrences" or something like that

I reckon if you're going to create a thread to discuss something, you should discuss it. Hop to it, lad.

Nothing wrong with creating a thread for one thing, you know. That's usually the way forums work.

Except now I don't know if I want to talk about it.

Every now and then this situation pops into the forefront of my mind, and I sit and rationalise it until my home is overrun with cattle, but it still bubble up to the surface. I'm resisting the urge to start the description of my scenario with "There's this girl..." but it's exceptionally difficult.

I've known her for five, maybe six years. We're very close friends, I'm usually the first person she'll talk to about her problems and ask for advice and she fulfills much the same role as me. She's told me that she loves me and she thinks I'm wonderful, and I love her although I haven't told her as such. I'm having difficulty trying to figure out what that love actually means - whether it's platonic or romantic - and to be honest I'm not sure what her love means, although I'm fairly confident that hers is platonic.

The other spanner in the works is that we've never met. Yes, this is one of those "online" dealies you've no doubt heard so much about. She lives in Texas and I live in California. Previously I was six hours ahead of her, which meant I only got to speak to her in the very late hours of the night into the early morning, and I would frequently do so. Now she's two hours ahead of me, and I'll often speak to her in the evenings. We have each other's mobile phone numbers and we text each other on a fairly regular basis. Perhaps the biggest thing is that she's planning to visit for a long weekend at some undetermined point in the future. We're also planning on going to England together in either June or August for a week.

She's fantastic, she really is. She's intelligent, cultured, stunningly beautiful, and she probably knows me better than I know me. When I have these little worries or fears or brief paranoid moments, she's the first person to lay those fears to rest. She has a knack for telling me that I'm wonderful, and is trying to help me get over my self-esteem issues by trying to convince me to convince myself that I'm wonderful. She knows that she's wonderful, but not in an "I'm better than you and I know it" sense you tend to find in some Americans (note: some).

So in short, I'm torn. I know I love her, but I don't know what sort of love that is. If it's the flowers 'n' chocolates type of love, I can't do anything about it because she's over there *gestures in a south-easterly direction wildly, and then again in a westerly direction for the benefit of people living on the East coast of the US or in Europe* and I'm not. I'm over here. If I want to see her it's a $200-400 dollar flight.

I think mostly this is my brain trying to get to grips with the idea that there's someone out there willing to listen to me ramble on about absolutely nothing while at the same time still think I'm utterly marvelous. At least, that's how I rationalise it. I've never had someone like that in my life before, in any capacity - my Mum thinks I'm wonderful but I don't feel like I can talk to her about my woes because while she tends to offer advice at the time she does have a habit of making fun of me for them later down the line, and my Dad has this rose-tinted idea that I am the Bees Knees which, I think, makes it difficult for me to be human around him. And the less said about how Amy used to treat me, the better.

I'm on the fence here. I don't want to risk ruining a friendship for something which a) might not be how I actually feel, b) might not be mutually shared, and c) would only cause me grief anyway because we're a hojillion miles apart.

I'm... sort of in a reasonably similar situation, but having run the "online relationships work too, lol" gauntlet entirely too freaking many times, and hurt myself and other people in the process, I'm determined at all costs to keep my thoughts to myself. I value the friendship entirely too much to start throwing things like that around, and I'm convinced that there's no way in hell it could ever work over such a distance.

That's just me and a different situation, obviously, but... I've kind of learned to take a more cautious approach to these things.

Edit: Boy did my situation become more difficult a second ago. Sigh.

I've always been of the opinion that online relationships don't work, which is one of the reasons I am unlikely to act upon these feelings, assuming that I am in love with her.

I've decided for now to simply assume that I don't love her in quite that manner. It's simpler that way.

I know what you mean, but that, too, is difficult because I'm just so stupidly desperate for meaningful companionship of the female persuasion that I just want to think that it's possible and all that.

The short version of the story is that life sucks and everyone is miserable! :D

Hmm. Problematically, I do think her love is platonic, unless she's made advances, or something. I think if she did like you in that way, she might have made it clearer, seeing as it is an online based relationship.

Ben, I'd have to say if true love was abound, then a, b and c would become moot because in love, irrationality comes first and consequences later. So if none of that has happened yet, at least one of you still considers it platonic. The word "love" gets thrown around a lot online.

Hmm. Problematically, I do think her love is platonic, unless she's made advances, or something. I think if she did like you in that way, she might have made it clearer, seeing as it is an online based relationship.not necessarily. it could be that she's on some other forum of friends asking the exact same series of questions.

I've had friends in the same capacity that you're speaking of, including one that was nearby. generally, it's a good idea to have such friendships for the sake of having someone to be a sounding board for you in a more anonymous form than actually seeing the person face-to-face. in the same vein, you two know each other at least as well as I knew my own sounding board friends, and that would mean quite well. so if you're thinking you have feelings for this person (which if you do I would most assuredly say is NOT truly love, but the precursor to such), the best bet is to either search around for other girls in your area to date for a little while, even if for no other reason than to "play the field" as it were. then if you find yourself thinking about your sounding board friend while spending time with your date after the first few successful dates, then you may want to look more into making your friend into more than that. the thing is, before you even consider that, you have to consider the fact that long-distance relationships fail. it's not an if and or but thing. long distance relationships fail. there is no grey area or possibility that you are different. they always, under every circumstance fail. the only way to stay in a relationship is to remove the long-distance part. so in order to make your relationship with her last, either you or her would have to move to live in the area of or house of the other. what you need to ask yourself when you get the point of actually seriously trying the relationship out is whether you could afford (emotionally and mentally as well as just financially) to move out on your own to wherever she lives, or if you could ask her to do it instead.

but that's all getting ahead of the present. first off, do some soul-searching. go out with random girls you have vague aquaitences or actual friendships, or whatever with, and find out if you actually DO want the long-distance friend to become your significant other, because you have to be 100% sure beyond all doubt that's what you want before acting on it. to do anything less is unfair to yourself as well as to her, because such a thing would not necessarily end the friendship, it WOULD end the closeness of the relationship as you have it now.

edit: for the record, I'm also used to being the sounding board for plenty of people, so I can get a bit into these sorts of conversations, and end up talking too damn much :p

Ben, I'd have to say if true love was abound, then a, b and c would become moot because in love, irrationality comes first and consequences later. So if none of that has happened yet, at least one of you still considers it platonic. The word "love" gets thrown around a lot online.

Yeah, but in text messages? ...Yes, there too I imagine. Ultimately, I'm just going to sit on it for now. These thoughts pop up every few months and they generally go away again after a week.

the thing is, before you even consider that, you have to consider the fact that long-distance relationships fail. it's not an if and or but thing. long distance relationships fail. there is no grey area or possibility that you are different. they always, under every circumstance fail. the only way to stay in a relationship is to remove the long-distance part. so in order to make your relationship with her last, either you or her would have to move to live in the area of or house of the other. what you need to ask yourself when you get the point of actually seriously trying the relationship out is whether you could afford (emotionally and mentally as well as just financially) to move out on your own to wherever she lives, or if you could ask her to do it instead.I've seen people in long-distance relationships get married. Granted, that's probably the point where long-distance goes away.

i would say go through with some sort of visit before making any more long-term plans - i wouldn't advise scheduling a long trip to another country with someone i only knew through the internet

meeting people in real life who you've known online can be really awkward, but it's pretty much necessary if you want to move beyond what you currently are doing

I've seen people in long-distance relationships get married. Granted, that's probably the point where long-distance goes away.exactly. that's what I was saying. long distance relationships are required to fail. it's how they work. the length of time between when they begin and when they fail varies on the people, but no matter what they will fail eventually. the only way to avoid that is to stop it from being long distance.

tons of long distance relationships work out in the end, the couple involved just has to move near each other. I just said it like I did to get the point across that someone would have to leave home.

I might go for it if the seperation wasn't the width of a continent.

Anyway! New problem: My brother wants me to join him and a butt-ton of his friends on his sort of bachelor party soiree tomorrow night. ...I mean tonight. Like, strip clubs and drinking and hanging around with drunken idiots at strip clubs and things like that. Needless to say, I'd rather have my legs broken. Some of you may remember how soiled I felt after attending one of his home parties. I learned then and there that I do not enjoy the company of large volumes of whooping drunks, and find minimal interest in the... parts of strange women I don't even know. That nobody there even knew. God that was a bad weekend. I felt ruined.

So, a friend calls me today (on my first break at work, how perfectly timed is that), says that my initial refusal to comply with the idea was weighing on my brother's mind, and plays this "he's your brother, he'd do practically anything if it were your wedding" hand on me. "Not trying to pressure you or anything," he says. Obviously. Thanks, bud.

I'm still 90-some percent sure I'm not about to pile into a van full of loudmouth zealots and have plastic hooters shoved in my face all night, but now I feel like an ass for turning the whole thing down because it will apparently really disappoint my brother somehow. I'm not sure why he thinks I should come along, since he knows that, by the very nature of the person I am, I would be miserable the whole time.

Whatever. I'm still getting him a Wii as a wedding gift, one way or the other.

I trust I can say all this here without "ha ha wtf zero doesznt liek boobys??? fga".

I too, hate parties where everybody goes it with the aim of getting drunk. I rarely drink, and being sober around a bunch of people that are of their faces is one of the most unpleasant scenarios I've ever had to endure. I've been out a number of times, particularly during fresher's week last year where this was the case, and I honestly don't want to go again.

Unfortunately, that's all my friends at uni want to do, so during fresher's week this year, I managed to stay inside all week except to go shopping. Although some people thought it was sad, my good friends are still my good friends and understand that I just don't enjoy it.

If you hate it that much, you need to talk to your brother and let him know that you don't want to go out because you don't enjoy that kind of "entertainment", but otherwise you'd be more than happy to spend some time with him. Maybe, before he gets married you can go to him and have a chat, or play Worms, or find some form of entertainment that isn't about getting sozzled. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

Thing is, I'm sure he knows well by now that I really don't go for that sort of thing, so I expect him and everybody else to understand pretty well. I'm sure he's still happy that I'm part of the actual wedding process in some way or another. ...Whatever way that is. I won't know until tomorr -- today.

I'm gunna go with melon. sit him down and explain why you don't want to go and that it's nothing to do with him, just you absolutely hate hanging out in that sort of atmosphere. I get that he knows that already, but maybe he needs to be reminded. offer to go out and have a brotherly fun-whatever at some other point in the day, or possibly when he gets back or something for the 2 of you to do your celebrating, rather than forcing you to subject yourself to a miserable time at his whim.

I too, hate parties where everybody goes it with the aim of getting drunk. I rarely drink, and being sober around a bunch of people that are of their faces is one of the most unpleasant scenarios I've ever had to endure. I've been out a number of times, particularly during fresher's week last year where this was the case, and I honestly don't want to go again.

i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one

Likewise .

Likewise also.

But this is after I managed to drink 2x as much as everybody else in an hour.

Not a clever idea.

I'd also say "likewise", but I've never been to any drinking party so I wouldn't know. Pretty sure I wouldn't like it, though.
I've never seen anyone I know get noticeably drunk, actually.

I'm going to see if I can get through life without ever getting drunk.
I think I get the similar sensation from playing music, so I'll do that instead.

That really is a good ethos.

I get worried sometimes, that becoming a muscian, and then touring etc, you kinda...fall into drugs and alochol and drugs. :/

Of course you have the choice, but I'm not sure, it seems alot of musicians take drugs. That is a massive generalisation I realise, but meh.

I think I get the similar sensation from playing music, so I'll do that instead.proven fact that video games release the same chemicals that make getting drunk and high fun for some people, so I'm fairly sure that you could get a very similar experience from anything you get really "in to"

I'd also say "likewise", but I've never been to any drinking party so I wouldn't know. Pretty sure I wouldn't like it, though.
I've never seen anyone I know get noticeably drunk, actually.

I'm going to see if I can get through life without ever getting drunk.
I think I get the similar sensation from playing music, so I'll do that instead.

*high-five*

I don't think I'll be able to avoid it all my entire life, but I have no intention of ever getting drunk anytime soon.

My friends in high school got into drinking and smoking more than just tobacco and stuff like that, and I've managed to make it this far without succumbing.

A lot of people in my dorm building here want to "corrupt me" as they say, but they're the same people who get sick, vomit in the toilets, and then don't feel well the next day and skip class... Yeah right, I say. One of my roommates also wants to get me started on marijuana, but that's even less likely to happen.

People used to smoke pot all the time in the 3rd floor bathrooms at high school. You could smell it from the hallway.


Oh man, I totally forgot to mention this.

I think I saw someone doing drugs on the bus a couple days ago.
He had some crumbled up stuff on a dollar bill. It kinda looked like... like that orange/brown stuff that they have on restaurant tables sometimes. Oregano? I'm not sure what drug it was, but I don't think he'd carry around some spices.

But anyway... the bus? Wait until you get home, man. :p

One of my roommates also wants to get me started on marijuana, but that's even less likely to happen.
My Mum tried to get me doing that. She also wanted me to sleep around a lot and get drunk as often as possible. I didn't, of course.

Sigh.

Go go gadget copy-paste.

Zero says:
yeah, remember that thing I was 90% sure I wasn't gonna do?
Ruka says:
I knew you'd go. ;p
Zero says:
Hmph. : / lol
Ruka says:
: /
Ruka says:
I'm sure he appreciated it. D:
Zero says:
Once they figured out that the whole "he's your brother" thing worked, they basically twisted it until I caved
Zero says:
and... I have to admit, once I resigned myself to the fact that I'd surrendered to them and the nudie club, which was made a little easier by a small amount liquor, I guess I had an alright time
Ruka says:
Uhm, exciting. o__o
Zero says:
Yes! Most exciting part of all was when one of our esteemed companions went completely bat**** because she decided to mix post-surgery hospital prescription pain killers with inordinate amounts of alcohol and spent the hour-long trip screaming bloody murder about how we had no idea about this and that, she wanted to die and kept trying to leave the moving van and attacking the ones holding her down
Zero says:
it was greeeeeeeeat
Ruka says:
Aahhcck, what the hell? D: D: D:
Zero says:
Yeah, basically
Zero says:
Now that I'm home I can get to the part where I can relax while also feeling dirty for what I've witnessed, which is also greeeeat. lol
Zero says:
Moving swiftly on!

Yeah, this is a lot like what happened last time. I was okay while I was there, just trying to relax a bit and enjoy myself, but now that I look back on it all... Ugh. I'm not supposed to see that.

Well, hopefully I won't be doing it again any time in forseeable future... And my brother did appreciate my presence there.

I also don't like going out with the sole intention of getting wasted or deafened in a noisy nightclub - I much prefer a quiet drink with friends in a pub or somewhere, were you can actually talk to them without having to yell right into their ears.


Trouble is, Loughborough university is known as a quiet little drinking university with a sporting problem, and it does boast the largest nightclub in Leicestershire...

Damn, just woke up and work is in 15 minutes. I hate it when I stay asleep.
Well I mean I love staying asleep, but I also hate it. Y'know.

You hate finding out you fell asleep. :p

The thign I hate is when you wake up before your alarm goes off, and you nod off again but you have a brief dream where you're showering before work, or you're driving to work, or you're working. Guh, I hate those dreams.

i just unclogged a toilet which is always a gross experience but at least it got unclogged which is good so i guess this is neutral

I just farted and arrived at the conclusion that nearly all farts automatically belong in this thread.

Sounds about right.

EDIT: This is a sticky afterall. Ba-dum-tish!

Sometimes my internet goes nightmarishly slow.

I cannot imagine how I could actually stand dial-up those years ago...

We never had "true" dialup at home, "back in the day", due to a poor phone line and living about 4 miles from the exchange, we had to put up with 28.8Kbps :p

Still, we've got 3Mbit broadband and when I'm at uni, I can make use of the 10Mbit up/down network :D

http://www.speedtest.net/result/193793661.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
(Upload seems a bit slow this morning...)

I'm never going to drink ever!
Jesus christ you guys make me feel like a raging alcoholic.:p

I generally don't drink, which annoys my Dad because he can't buy me a beer. This is apparently a Big Deal to him. I've told him he can buy me a beer and then I'll give it to him to drink instead, but he insists that it's not the same.

I generally don't drink, which annoys my Dad because he can't buy me a beer. This is apparently a Big Deal to him. I've told him he can buy me a beer and then I'll give it to him to drink instead, but he insists that it's not the same.

Can't he just buy you a mineral water?

Or you could just drink the beer.

I very much doubt that one american beer would have much of an effect.

I had a couple of drinks this past weekend, one on the night I went out and one at the wedding reception. The two drinks I had prior to that were at last year's company Christmas party.

I'll have a drink or maybe two on really social occasions or if I feel like I need to haze my mind a bit. Just really, really rarely.

I love getting mildly drunk. Feeling slightly dizzy and having to pee every 10 minutes. :p

I generally don't drink, which annoys my Dad because he can't buy me a beer. This is apparently a Big Deal to him. I've told him he can buy me a beer and then I'll give it to him to drink instead, but he insists that it's not the same.
He could buy you some isotonic juice, a fudge bar and get you a marihuana cigarette.
Can't he just buy you a mineral water?
I very much doubt that one american beer would have much of an effect.
I'd say that US beer isn't much stronger than mineral water anyway.

He could buy you some isotonic juice, a fudge bar and get you a marihuana cigarette.

I've been doing far too much gas turbine design coursework lately - I read "isotonic" as "isentropic".

*Hits self*


Isentropic juice, now there's an idea! Especially reversible isentropic juice.


I'll shut up now :p

I've been doing far too much gas turbine design coursework lately - I read "isotonic" as "isentropic".

*Hits self*


Isentropic juice, now there's an idea! Especially reversible isentropic juice.


I'll shut up now :p
Greek prefixes are fun! :D

I'm gunna need that one explained, thomas :p

the uneducated one demands knowledge

I'm gunna need that one explained, thomas :p

the uneducated one demands knowledge

An isentropic process is a process where entropy is conserved, i.e. an adiabatic (heat is conserved), reversible one.

I THINK I understood that :p

but anyways, I have a VERY neutral occurance. I was invited to join the Beta for Age of Conan, one of my most highly-anticipated games coming out any time soon. I'm EXTREMELY happy about that....or would be, except that it's the technical beta, so I have to download 3 files, the first one which is 1.6 GB, and install that game before 3 hours from now, when there will be a 3-hour play session to allow me to play to my heart's content. IF I managed to download all that in time (which I won't, btw), I would be sleeping at that point in time anyway.

so yeah, I'm in the beta....woo....

I've started liking this other girl.
Problematically I don't know her.
But one of her best friends, and one of my decent friends, are wanting to help me out. So Neutral it is.

I'm gunna need that one explained, thomas :p

the uneducated one demands knowledge
Isotonic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotonic) vs. isentropic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isentropic)

Marathon runners often can die when they drink too much water instead of isotonic fluids.
Also, snakes and slugs shrivel if you put (table) salt on them.

To counter all the anti-drink-party-whatever posts, I did get invited to a party and I did want to go. Booze, boobs, people at their lowest, the works.

Sadly, the party wasn't nearby so I couldn't get transportation back home nor a place to stay that late, so I couldn't go.

But hey, I got invited to a party. Go college!

I ate 11 plates of food in the dining hall.

I beat my roommates record of 10.

5 plates of french toast, 4 plates of waffles, and 2 donuts.

But I'm stuffed out of my mind. And that was 4 hours ago.

I ate 11 plates of food in the dining hall.

I beat my roommates record of 10.

5 plates of french toast, 4 plates of waffles, and 2 donuts.

But I'm stuffed out of my mind. And that was 4 hours ago.holy crap! you're out of your friggin mind.

My salt water tank is coming along really well; my live rock has produced a good several coral polyps, several tiny polyps which look a lot like the beginnings of anemonae to me, and some pretty robust sea sponge growth. The other day, I finally went ahead and bought an adorable lil' ol' clownfish to stick in there, and my mind arbitrarily assigned him the name Charles.

The only reason this is a neutral event or occurrence is because I'm not sure what to feed him. We've tried two kinds of flakes; he has no interest at all in the type that's actually made for clownfish and damselfish, and minimal interest in the more generic tropical fish ones. I'll have to go back to the pet store and ask about it... Supposing I can drag myself out of bed for a change, which is honestly a problem I've been struggling with for months.

I was also worried that he was struggling with the current a bit too much, but it doesn't look much like it now that he's settled in a bit more. Hard to say. I might ask about that too. I'm leery about adjusting the current too much because all of the stationary stuff on the live rock needs plenty of current.

I ate 11 plates of food in the dining hall.

I beat my roommates record of 10.

5 plates of french toast, 4 plates of waffles, and 2 donuts.

But I'm stuffed out of my mind. And that was 4 hours ago.
are you a fatty

I ate 11 plates of food in the dining hall.

I beat my roommates record of 10.

5 plates of french toast, 4 plates of waffles, and 2 donuts.

But I'm stuffed out of my mind. And that was 4 hours ago.
Hmm. How much French toast and how many waffles per plate?

Just one piece of french toast and 2 waffle sections (half) of a 4-section 3" radius waffle per plate.

4-6 plates is about normal for my roommates and I. Most of the girls get between 2 and 4. One of my roommates got 9, and then the other 10. I was tied at nine for a while, and then I beat them all with 11.

So it's not like 11 is an unheard of ungodly number - it's not like I ate what 11 people would have eaten. Also it was 14:00 and I hadn't eaten yet that day. I didn't eat for the rest of the day either...

*dies of laughter* I just signed on to Steam and I see "You have 1 friends invite pending." and as such I go and see who it is. a W:A Nuke logo appears, and next to it a name. Plasma.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. I think I'll leave it in limbo for a month before I decline :p

I accepted, out of morbid curiosity.

He's not a bad lad. Paul and I have been playing with him a bit recently.

And me. Irish accent ughhhhh.......

Nothing wrong with an Irish accent.

It's less irish than Alex's. Get him to say "Carphone Warehouse," and you'll appreciate the difference better.

He's not a bad lad. Paul and I have been playing with him a bit recently.

He still manages to be vaguely annoying though. I'm not sure how. It must be some kind of force field.

Just one piece of french toast and 2 waffle sections (half) of a 4-section 3" radius waffle per plate.Doesn't sound too difficult to beat.

I'm still not 100% sure what "French Toast" is, mind.

I'm still not 100% sure what "French Toast" is, mindDepends which country you're in.

I believe the american version is bread covered with sugar and things like cinnamon and then "toasted", whereas the "French" version seems to be more bread dipped in butter and toasted (I think)

Depends which country you're in.

I believe the american version is bread covered with sugar and things like cinnamon and then "toasted", whereas the "French" version seems to be more bread dipped in butter and toasted (I think)
french toast is bread dipped in an egg batter and fried, generally slathered with butter and syrup afterward (apparently you lot call it "eggy bread")

normal toast is just straight up toasted bread with stuff on it

Oooh, don't forget the powered ("confectioner's") sugar on that French toast!!!

powered ("confectioner's") sugar
Powered sugar - the favourite of confectioners and steroid-pumped body-builders alike.

Powered sugar - the favourite of confectioners and steroid-pumped body-builders alike.

It gives you ENERGY LEGS

This is just the 100% OT Thread Mark II.

I was supposed to go and see Norman Lovett tonight but he pulled out which is disappointing but very, very convenient since it will cut my journey time and expense and make it much, much easier for me to catch the train.

I... I don't know that I'm not happier this way.

french toast is bread dipped in an egg batter and fried, generally slathered with butter and syrup afterward (apparently you lot call it "eggy bread")

butter and syrop!? how.. Amarican.

We dutch folk eat it with cinnamon and sugar :)

Also, we call it "wentel teefje" which means, when you translate it literally, nothing more than "turning bItch" :o

butter and syrop!? how.. Amarican.

We dutch folk eat it with cinnamon and sugar :)

Also, we call it "wentel teefje" which means, when you translate it literally, nothing more than "turning bItch" :o
i am of dutch heritage :cool:

Why do I keep reading "Natural Events & Occurances"?

So I just changed my schedule at work. Basically I still work from 4-12pm, only now I get 2 days off per week, instead of one. And get paid slightly less. :p
So in short:
Pro- 2 days off.
Con- Less money.
Pro- 2 days off.
Con- I'm hungry.
Pro- :cool:

I get Thursday and Sunday off. :p
Starting next week I think.

Thursday and sunday? That sucks :p

Oddly enough, that's what my mum gets alternate weeks. (Thursday and Sunday off one week, Saturday and Sunday off the other).

Thursday and sunday? That sucks :p

Why? Means you can go out Wednesday and Saturday, so you have one big-night-out night where everyone's out and places are busy, and one cheap, quiet night. Best of both. No?

Seriously, though, 4-12pm? What do you do?

Seriously, though, 4-12pm? What do you do?
Spanish Customer Care for Sprint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Nextel).
What I actually do is tell idiots how to turn on their phones, and that their bill is high because that's what happens when you use your phone like a whore.

Thursday and sunday? That sucks :p
I'll eventually insist into changing that to tuesday and friday off. But for now, that works fine for me.

My dad had some relatively minor heart surgery (but heart surgery is heart surgery) today. Mostly an exploratory/diagnostic sort of thing; a dye test to check for blockages or other things obviously wrong or whatever. Nothing too serious came back, so his problems might be stress/anxiety related, and he'll have to start eating healthier and exercising a bit more, but this is basically still a really good result and we're all just relieved to get the whole thing over with.

That was the hardest day of friggin' sitting around I've ever done, particularly considering how amazingly little sleep I've had over the past 30 hours.

If only my dad had that done. Came back home from school on a Wednesday and wondered why his car was still in the drive. That was a **** week to say the least.

This cat of mine. He spends all goddamn night meowing into infinity and insisting on bothering my dad while he's trying to sleep. I don't know why. He has everything he needs but still sits there and meows. My dad locks him out of his room to try to get some freakin' sleep, but he just sits there and meows at the door and scratches at it. Bugs the hell out of me, too, still just wandering around and meowing. I try to keep him in my room to keep him out of my dad's hair, he sits at my door, scratches, meows. He's freaking posessed.

I love the cat like a brother. I turn 22 in less than a week and the cat was born when I was 5. He's been there as far as I can remember, but he's driving us both crazy. I worry. He's getting old, and I wonder if that's finally starting to catch up with him and his little mind is going. One way or the other, he's making things pretty tense around here at night, and I just wish he freaking wouldn't.

My gut tells me this might not end well. I reiterate that I love the cat. I don't want this to be happening.

This cat of mine. He spends all goddamn night meowing into infinity and insisting on bothering my dad while he's trying to sleep. I don't know why. He has everything he needs but still sits there and meows. My dad locks him out of his room to try to get some freakin' sleep, but he just sits there and meows at the door and scratches at it. Bugs the hell out of me, too, still just wandering around and meowing. I try to keep him in my room to keep him out of my dad's hair, he sits at my door, scratches, meows. He's freaking posessed.

I love the cat like a brother. I turn 22 in less than a week and the cat was born when I was 5. He's been there as far as I can remember, but he's driving us both crazy. I worry. He's getting old, and I wonder if that's finally starting to catch up with him and his little mind is going. One way or the other, he's making things pretty tense around here at night, and I just wish he freaking wouldn't.

My gut tells me this might not end well. I reiterate that I love the cat. I don't want this to be happening.
1) Dementia because he is 17 years old.
2) He didn't have sex for the past 17 years, did he? Perhaps he just realized that. (And he has been imprinted on human males during his sensitive phase.)
3) With his sharp cat senses he's feeling that something is going to happen to your father and/or father's bed room.

That's why I allways leave my cats outside. :p

Well, it's 12:16. I'm in the most comfortable spot in the school library and I've got 7+ hours to kill before I meet up to put some artwork in the hallways. (Dwarf Fortress time)

I realize that since I'm making art in school now, I should probably put some of it onto dA. At least it would get me some use out of the old account. Whatever.

Also, I think I finally figured out how to make an efficient game engine in Flash that'll do what I've been working at for 2 years or so. Part of the efficiency came from realizing that I don't really need realistic physics in a platformer, especially when I want to focus on having as many characters on-screen as possible with minimal lag.
Hope it works.

2) He didn't have sex for the past 17 years, did he? Perhaps he just realized that. (And he has been imprinted on human males during his sensitive phase.)Considering he was altered when he was just a little guy, I doubt that's such a problem for him these days :p3) With his sharp cat senses he's feeling that something is going to happen to your father and/or father's bed room.If that's the case, it's gonna be something like a meteorite impact, because he's been doing it for quite some time and nothing horrible has happened yet. Well, except for my dad's heart thing, which is pretty much over now.

I'm still kind of sticking with the "senile old geezer cat" theory for the moment, although I don't want my little buddy to be a senile old geezer. :(

This was supposed to be in Negative events, by the way. I was tired.

which is pretty much over now. or is it? *dramatic music*

The bad news is I went Christmas shopping today, and ended up spending more money on myself.

The good news is that it was on 3 Terry Pratchet books: Mort, Soul Music and Sourcery.

So, I bought a new graphics card for this pc because I can't run Portal and TF2. It's an Ati x1050. It's not the shizznit, but it was cheap.
Anyway, it appears to work, kindof, but when I tried to run HL2 the screen goes off and gives me a "no signal" message...
I seem to meet the system requirements of it(otherwise it wouldn't run?)
The only part I'm unsure of is te Power Supply, because I honestly don't know what power supply I have, and I can't seem to be able to find out. :p

Edit; Well, I actually have a 400w psu... and the card requires a 420w psu...

Sounds like a driver issue. Your monitor does that when it or the card can't display what it's being told to in resolution and refresh rate. Make sure your card and monitor drivers are correct and up to date. Also, try resetting the resolutions of the two games to a low setting somehow, by editing a config file somewhere or starting the game in safe mode if possible.

If you didn't know, you can usually find out your PSU's claimed 'maximum output' on a sticker somewhere on the chassis.

I'll update my drivers and see if that works.
My psu is 400w, and the card says it requires 420w, is it dangerous to be running this thing if I don't meet the requirements? :p

edit: HL2 did manage to start off, up to the menu, but when I was meddling with the graphics settings is when it went off. I'm not sure if the pc crashed, or if just the monitor stopped receiving signal...

You might have enabled something it doesn't support. 400W should be fine. It'll either work or not, really. You won't blow anything up, PSUs have overload protection.

Though for future reference, it's good to have a decent quality PSU.

Graphics cards will automatically turn off if something pushes them too far (overheat/underpower/unsupported/etc.) so make sure you set it all up properly. Does it happen just with HL2 or any other game?

Haven't tried other games.
Tried HL2 again, and I managed to start the game but it kept flickering, then I got an error and hl2.exe crashed.
Gonna try gta SA.

Again, random flickering and then I get the error. Gta kept running tho.
Here's the error, doesn't seem like anything good :( :

Could this be caused for not handling it properly? I'm not sure if I applied to much force to it...
Well actually, at first, when I connected the card, it appeared to just not work, so I tried to remove it and it appeared to be stuck... so I pushed it back in place, tried again and it worked... not sure if that could screw it up?

It's definitely something with the card then, games are pretty good for troubleshooting them since they'll easily load them. Check if the card is properly installed (try unplugging and plugging it in again, check if you missed any cables - some need a dedicated power cable, etc.), if the built-in fan is working properly, if the card stays cool during games, etc.

If that doesn't work, you should probably be able to take it back for one that works.

Well I doubt it's overheating since it also does that when playing videos in youtube... and I really doubt that can overheat it. Plus it doesn't feel hot in there either.

Gonna try the unplug/plug back thing.

Well, so much for taking it back. The thing's stuck there, I can't unplug it. :p :(
That's most likely not a good thing.

Well, so much for taking it back. The thing's stuck there, I can't unplug it. :p :(
That's most likely not a good thing.first we try the obvious:
you're pushing the release clamp thing hard enough to ensure it's no longer holding the video card, right?

first we try the obvious:
you're pushing the release clamp thing hard enough to ensure it's no longer holding the video card, right?
Well, it hasn't got a release clamp as far as I know. :p

Well I finally managed to get it off. So I put the old one there to see if maybe I had screwed up the agp slot or something, but it works fine... so the problem is with the card I bought...
Gonna take it back tomorrow and see if I can exchange it or something. :p

Well, it hasn't got a release clamp as far as I know. :pfigured I'd try the simple/stupid mistake first....that's the one most people seem to make when they're having computer problems. :p

and good that it's working fine now.

As SupSuper already said, most new graphics card have a second power cable that needs to be plugged into the dedicated plug on the mainboard.

If you think your power supply is too weak, try disconnecting some HDDs, optical drives or other hardware you don't need to run your machine.
(Everything except one RAM chip, the system HDD and the graphics card.)

I don't think my pc uses too much power as it is right now. Also, the card doesn't have any extra cable or connection at all. It just won't work. :(
and good that it's working fine now
No, the old one does, not the new one. :p

Not really sure if this is good or bad.... a girl friend (note space) was trying to get with me at the new years' party (either that or she's sending off completely the wrong signals). Trouble is I don't have those sort of feelings for her, although she is a nice girl. I don't really know how I feel about her to be honest. Secondly, we're both at uni, which would make it difficult anyway.

So, what do you want from us? Advice? Sounds like you don't need it.

Not really sure if this is good or bad.... a girl friend (note space) was trying to get with me at the new years' party (either that or she's sending off completely the wrong signals). Trouble is I don't have those sort of feelings for her, although she is a nice girl. I don't really know how I feel about her to be honest. Secondly, we're both at uni, which would make it difficult anyway.
how does going to college complicate a relationship? seems to me like that's where a lot of relationships start

Presumably different colleges?

how does going to college complicate a relationship? seems to me like that's where a lot of relationships startBecause she's at a different university about a hundred miles away and I won't see her unless its the holidays.

Because she's at a different university about a hundred miles away and I won't see her unless its the holidays.
ah yes

COLLEGE SEMESTER 2

BEGlN

Heh, in Swedish the word semester means vaccation. You confused me at first.

I have drunk 3 litres of Coca-Cola AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO AWAKE.

Amateur .

Yeah, what a noob!

I am drinking Tia Maria with Dandelion and Burdock. Niiiice!

I have drunk 3 litres of Coca-Cola AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO AWAKE.come back after 24 Bawls.

They should sell Bawls in packs of six and call the packs Ovahs.

Except in Australia, where they should be packs of eight.

"I'd like five Ovahs of Bawls please," you'd say as you stepped into the local Netto.

Our generations 'industrialized country' issues:
Theese tortilla chips are cheese flavored, I wanted regular. :(

She's got a boyfriend now, so problem solved :p

It's my birthday today. (yes that's what you miss out on a calendarless forum :p)

So far I've received some money, some candy, a new motherboard and... an hentai game. Erm... hm.

And yet all I can think of is "I wonder if I can review this for RealVG".

Happy birthday! Yes, review the game.

Happy Birthday!

Happy B-day, and, er, whoa... From whom? :p

Well my brother ended up going to Michoacan(which is rather far from here) to do his work practice for his career so that he can graduate. He left last monday, so now I get to have the room for myself.

On another note, he just called now apparently he's feeling sick, threw up a couple of times and to top it all off, he's alone and the place he's staying at is far away from the city. :-/

Happy Birthday.

Well, that's weird.

It's my birthday today. (yes that's what you miss out on a calendarless forum :p)

So far I've received some money, some candy, a new motherboard and... an hentai game. Erm... hm.

And yet all I can think of is "I wonder if I can review this for RealVG".


Hahahahahahaha, happy birthday!

So far I've received some money, some candy, a new motherboard and... an hentai game. Erm... hm.

well if you're into that sort of thing go for it i guess

The game isn't really bothersome compared with explaining HEY SON THIS JUST CAME IN THE MAIL with relatives around.

I need to pick better friends.

I am not a Valentine's Day person. It isn't for me - I'm more about expressions of love at random, regular intervals rather than saving it up for one singular appointed day. You have a year's worth of days in which to do Bloody Spectacular things, after all. If we were only meant to do these things one day out of the year, we'd hibernate during the other 364.

I have ordered flowers for a friend, though. My friend in Houston, in fact - the one I went out to visit in January. The one I've been an idiot about.

Flowers. Was that a stupid thing to do? I don't know. I am, or rather I was, quite confident that I'd got over her. However, we spoke briefly yesterday and she said she wanted to find herself a Valentine in the next couple of days - she didn't want another year where she had to buy flowers for herself on Valentine's Day. So... I spared her the trouble, I guess. I don't know.

That's sweet.

Valentine's annoys me. If you're in a new relationship it's awkward. If you're in an old one I imagine it's inconvenient. If you're single it's depressing. If you work for Hallmark...

Tomorrow, I shall be going out with a lovely girl I asked out on Friday. Although she said no and there'll be other people there. And I may be taken speed-dating. But it's sort of a start, I think.

I'm bit worried about Valentines Day tomorrow (today? I should go to sleep)

My door will be hidden behind the mountain of cards I'm going to get and I'll be late for lectures.

I'm bit worried about Valentines Day tomorrow (today? I should go to sleep)

My door will be hidden behind the mountain of cards I'm going to get and I'll be late for lectures.
i know, the same thing is probably going to happen to me :(

I'm going out to eat at a good, but not anything similar to fancy restaraunt with my wife. then we're going to work. YAY PLANS! :p

I'm going to repeatedly bang my head against the closest wall.

I'm going to go to work and mope while I'm there.

And probably get angry.

Edit: 6 hours into the day, I'm depressed. :(

I'm going to go to work and mope while I'm there.

And probably get angry.

Edit: 6 hours into the day, I'm depressed. :(ok, yeah, valentine's day is stupid, but if you actually get depressed just from seeing valentine's crap, you need help.

I received boobs for Valentine's.

Thank god that my girlfriend doesn't believe in Valentine's day.
When waking up today I asked her if there are special wishes you express on Valentine's day.
She said there are none.

Anyway, I only would have bought her a sunflower which aren't growing yet.

Valentine's Day doesn't depress me, because even though I'm single I know things could always be worse - I could still be with Amy, for instance.

I received boobs for Valentine's.
that is bull**** you cannot receive boobs for valentines :rolleyes:

Ben - I used to think the same but now I think both random and timed things are good. It's when you do things for the sake of doing things or because you fear what impression you might be giving that gets you down.

If you want to send her flowers I'd advise leaving it to be anonymous. Not through caution alone but also because the mysteriousness of it makes it more exciting for her. If you stick your name on it she might either think you're trying to edge in to her affections or you're sending her flowers out of sympathy.

that is bull**** you cannot receive boobs for valentines :rolleyes:Not without paying anyway. It's like legal prostitution: Buy her a meal and/or expensive gift, or you get nothing.

If you want to send her flowers I'd advise leaving it to be anonymous. Not through caution alone but also because the mysteriousness of it makes it more exciting for her. If you stick your name on it she might either think you're trying to edge in to her affections or you're sending her flowers out of sympathy.I never got that. If you're anonymous, how the hell will they believe it was really you being oh so very anonymous? exploding vans

ok, yeah, valentine's day is stupid, but if you actually get depressed just from seeing valentine's crap, you need help.You're a pal.

I never got that. If you're anonymous, how the hell will they believe it was really you being oh so very anonymous? exploding vans
You could leave some cryptic hints that might reveal your identity after a bit of thinking.
Something only you both know.

This Valentine was alright, there was free candy at the register. :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxV670IPNfA

You're a pal.I don't mean to be insulting. I mean seriously, if you're just down cause its a day where you're reminded of your loneliness or what-not then that's one thing, but if you're actually depressed about it, you may want to seek legitimate help.

LOL comedy sketch in lighttext

I am actually making a flash game.

...well, it's much more of a level editor at the moment.
But it lets you draw shapes with something like photoshop's pen tool, which then saves all of the statistics about the shape (Point's x-values, slopes) to an array, which can be saved and loaded from an external text file.
I swear, I used to think arrays were a load of crap, but now I love them so very much.
But I didn't know what a FUNCTION was back then, either, so I know that I cannot trust my past self. He is such a fool!

Thing is, I'm not sure if Flash is really what I should be going for at this point. It doesn't seem powerful enough for my purposes, and it's too focused on the web. There's always AIR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Integrated_Runtime), but it's rather early in development and doesn't seem to run things at a decent pace. That, and I still cannot get actionscript to enter the full screen screen mode, no matter how many times I curse or copy code directly from the actionscript reference book.

So... time to see if I can learn a new coding language.

I have a mortgage. This is probably the best thread for it. Negative: Costs money. Positive: Everything else. The combination of getting a generous student loan from the government and working full time while living at home with generous parents has allowed me to save up. I've moved to Auckland (NZ), where there's an excessive supply of mostly crappy apartments, but I've picked up a relative bargain on a good 1 bedroom apartment. It's a good change for me to be in a central city, much more interesting and convenient. :cool:

Some guy has offered me $560 for my Telecaster. Incidentally, I wasn't offering it around, but he really liked it, says has been looking for one the exact same colour for a while and hasn't been able to find one, so I mentioned that a couple months ago I was interested in selling it and he made the offer.
So now I'm torn...
It's my only electric guitar right now, so I would have to get another one. And I've been looking recently but just can't find anything that really feels fine...

I'm strongly considering the purchase of a 1996 Nissan Maxima parked practically right next to my house. Pretty nice-looking car, lots of miles but very well-kept. It's practically identical to my dad's car except in year and color -- black, while my dad's is white. Power everything, cruise control, very dramatic-sounding motor, nice sound system... Nice everything. Price we're looking at is $3850 or best offer. None too shabby at all. I'm likely to have a test drive tomorrowday.

1996 Nissan Maxima [...] black
Like this one?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/95-96_Nissan_Maxima.jpg/800px-95-96_Nissan_Maxima.jpg

Pretty much exactly, yep.

Aaaand the deal is final at $3800. That's now my car.

But man, I hate all this intimidating paperwork and crap.

Speaking of such paperwork, looks like I'm not going anywhere in the car today, because the title transfer requires an, er... valid driver's license, whereas mine... sort of expired a little, maybe somewhere around like 2 years or so ago. Yyyyyyyeeahh.

So, I'll have more crud to clear out tomorrow, but the good news is that I'm, well, now a legally licenced driver for the first time in two years, and I should be driving to work tomorrow on a black leather seat with a nice sound system going and 190 horses under the hood.

Means tonight and tomorrow are likely to be the last times I drive my little Neon. :-/ Ah well. She served me well, and I plan on reselling it for the same price I got it for, which'll chip a mean block off of what I spent for the Maxima.

It's gonna be a boy (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=641084#post641084).

so, I just watched Stargate SG-1: The Ark of Truth that recently came out. this was perhaps the MOST neutral event to ever happen to me. the movie was entirely full of Meh. obviously, it's good because it's stargate and if you liked stargate nothing has changed. unfortunately, they did nothing interesting in the movie, really, and I knew exactly what was going to happen for the better portion of the whole thing. now, it really was not in any way a BAD movie and I don't regret having seen it, but the whole thing just kinda screamed of uncreativity. it was kinda like they wanted to end the series better than they did but they couldn't quite figure out how so they just went with the best idea someone had.

I dunno, I'm just very, very meh about the whole experience. it was rather long though.

Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis does present some novel storyline interruptions but it tends to sort of lose its pace after a bit, like it can't be arsed. There are a lot of loose ends in the Stargate universe to tie up, and a lot of plot devices introduced that are never used again.

Nathan, do you remember the episode they supposedly rid the galaxy of the ascended Ori? Where was the climax?

Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis does present some novel storyline interruptions but it tends to sort of lose its pace after a bit, like it can't be arsed. There are a lot of loose ends in the Stargate universe to tie up, and a lot of plot devices introduced that are never used again.yeah, it sort of got bored with itsself after the goa'uld. before that there were just spotted episodes that did that.

Nathan, do you remember the episode they supposedly rid the galaxy of the ascended Ori? Where was the climax?I actually think I missed that particular episode, but I caught all the ones around it, so I know what happened. the movie ends the ori story arc rather effectively if a tad blandly. I don't THINK there are any major plot points that went unresolved.

So I'm kinda using firefox besides Opera, to check out the Stumble plugin. But after installing the extension, firefox will often start twitching. Like, I'll bookmark a page and it starts jumping up and down fast about 10 pixels. It annoys the hell out of me, and I can't find a way to make it stop.

There is absolutely no indication to what this twitching means, why it's there or how to stop it. Moronic programming.

No. No, I shouldn't. I'm off out of the country again in a couple of days. There's no point. Is there? No, surely not. I'm only going to wind up hurting myself and angsting over it for the next hojillion years, whatever the outcome. And she deserves someone a little more local, anyway.

No, I'll just sit on it.

Which will be difficult as I'm having dinner and watching a couple of movies with her tomorrow evening.

Perhaps a bit of no-strings sexual intercourse then?

What's up?

Perhaps a bit of no-strings sexual intercourse then?You've a real knack for knowing exactly what to not say, Matty.

Perhaps a bit of no-strings sexual intercourse then?

What's up?

There's no time for that! He has two entire films to get through. And a meal.

We had a lovely time. She cooked dinner, and we watched an utterly abominable movie called 16 Blocks which made me hate Bruce Willis and Mos Def in equal measure. And best of all it was just me, her, and her boyfriend.

I sure can pick 'em.

You've a real knack for knowing exactly what to not say, Matty.
it was also hilarious
We had a lovely time. She cooked dinner, and we watched an utterly abominable movie called 16 Blocks which made me hate Bruce Willis and Mos Def in equal measure. And best of all it was just me, her, and her boyfriend.

I sure can pick 'em.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4482/emotdohmy6.gif

Thursday night I went out and somehow managed to charm three incredibly lovely ladies. AFter being presented with two options (go home with one of them, or go home with the other two) I chose Secret Option Number 3 - go home on my own.

Secret Option Number 4 is better.

I think we're going on the wrong NEAO here.

Thursday night I went out and somehow managed to charm three incredibly lovely ladies. AFter being presented with two options (go home with one of them, or go home with the other two) I chose Secret Option Number 3 - go home on my own.:eek: :eek:

Bah! My headphones are breaking down. I'm loosing sound in the right ear due to loose glitchy connections in the cord. I have to keep my head tilted to the right for sound to make it into both sides of the headphones. :mad:
This is easaly the most annoying thing that can break on you. Headphones break more more frequently than any other of my stuff, and new ones are expensive.
In any case, theese (http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=24082) are the ones I'm getting, they're better than my current ones.

My friend has a pair just like them that I tried out. The outside world becomes extreamly quiet. Theese will be perfect for school, ignoring people and distractions has never been easier!

I suggest you get AKG headphones. Finest Austrian audio technology.
Sennheiser are good too.

I suggest you get AKG headphones. Finest Austrian audio technology.
Sennheiser are good too.
sennheiser have an unbeatable two-year warranty on all new headphones

So. I've had this job since almost two years ago. I recently changed to mini-part time working from 8pm to 12pm, earning a rather low payment, because I needed a while to sort some things out. But I can go back anytime to full time, and I can earn up to about $600 per month.

On the other hand, my grandfather has had this business which basically deals with selling different types of chiles, onions and other stuff. Currently, that business is being run by 2 of my aunts (my recently deceased aunt also worked here). And my brother recently joined in after he finished his career (allegedly, he plans to eventually take over the business and improve it). I used to work there a couple of years ago, the schedule is from 4AM to around 2PM, so it's a bit of a pain, and they paid me like $580 per month, having no day off, ever. It's a 7 day a week job, and we only get days off like in christmas and similar stuff. And I used to be just a worker there, handling mostly carrying things around, and handling collections(charging people who were due, etc.)
Now they are offering me a job again, this time handling capturing all relevant data on a computer, handling bank deposits and issuing checks, and obviously when the help is needed I'm gonna be required to carry stuff around too. This time they will probably pay me more, and I'll get to work with my brother which is mostly fun.
Then again, I get to work with my aunts and with my grandfather lurking every now and then, which is NOT fun. My grandfather is a bit of an asshole and is the annoying type of old person that always says you're doing it wrong, and gets ****ed for petty things pretty easily, and my aunts are constantly fighting each other... whereas in my job the only people that scream at me are the customers, but y'know, they hardly matter... :rolleyes: :p
My supervisor is a great guy and it's a rather care free job. Just do what I have to do. Whereas taking the job at my grandfather's business is a job that requires RESPONSIBILITY. That means I can't skip job when I'm lazy like I currently do. :p

Told my aunt I'm gonna think about it and give an answer this sunday. I'm really not sure what to do.
The benefit is that I could easily go back to my current job, since they are almost always hiring and they already know I can get the job done just about fine. :p

Sounds like you already know the answer. I don't think you listed any positive benefits of changing jobs, there.

My advice is stick with your current job, you seem to enjoy it more. You might get a little bit more money and responsibility if you work in the family but it'll also add a heap of stress. It sounds to me like you don't want to do it. Remember, it's your life, and what matters is what benefits you the most. Aim to be the happiest.

let's see. you can:

A) keep the job your currently have that you enjoy, that pays well and that allows you to live in a mostly stress-free environment.

or

B) go work for your family that annoy you and fight with each other constantly, doing a job that requires you to work on a retarded schedule that you don't like at all doing work that may possibly pay a little more but is infinitely more stressful.

yeah.....let's think about this for a second...:p

I could also list cons for my current job. In fact, the cons overweight the pros for either of both jobs anyway, I won't be happier in either place.
But I think the newly offered job offers me a one way trip to fixing my damn sleeping time(well, kind of), fixing my bad eating habits(eating once or twice per day... sometimes) and fixing the fact that I spend most of my days sitting down.
So anyway, I just quit my current job, will sign resignation on monday, and I'll let my aunt know I'm in tomorrow afternoon.
Truth be told, I need the money, because I want to move out of my parents house.

Currently my best option is share a place with my brother.

Also I am deeply sad but I don't want to get into that because I find this sadness to be pathetic.

Bad eating and sleeping habits my ****. You're just a lazy ******* like me. And if you're anything like me you make rash assumptions.

Why bother asking us what you should do without giving us all the facts? What use is there? Mind, I assumed you wanted advice. But you painted it like you would be happier where you are, so now you're making less sense!

Why not find yourself an even better job than both of them?

Do both jobs!

Bad eating and sleeping habits my ****. You're just a lazy ******* like me. And if you're anything like me you make rash assumptions.

Why bother asking us what you should do without giving us all the facts? What use is there? Mind, I assumed you wanted advice. But you painted it like you would be happier where you are, so now you're making less sense!

Why not find yourself an even better job than both of them?

I was just sharing a neutral event. I do appreciate the advice, mind you.

Do both jobs!
Great idea! I just wanted to suggest that.

If you sit in front of a computer at your grandfather's business, you could hook it up to the internet, install the appropriate software and do that telephone hotline job remotely from there.

You might want to split your corpus callosum, so that your two brain hemispheres can work independently.
Note that not both are capable of the same tasks:
http://nobelprize.org/educational_games/medicine/split-brain/splitbrainexp.html
;)

Great idea! I just wanted to suggest that.

If you sit in front of a computer at your grandfather's business, you could hook it up to the internet, install the appropriate software and do that telephone hotline job remotely from there.

That's not quite possible. At all. :p

Why do I fall in love with every woman I see that shows me the least bit of attention?
Although to be fair in this instance it does appear to be mutual.
Okay, I will admit that I am not exactly adept at picking up signs aimed my way. I do have something of a talent for spotting signs aimed at other people, but where I'm concerned I appear to suffer from some kind of signal blindness.

However, the signs are pretty bloody strong now. In order for me to actually miss them I think I'd have to have lost the ability to read. Either that or have recently undergone a lobotomy.

I fear OD may well be dying.

And I fear that I welcome it.

I fear OD may well be dying.

And I fear that I welcome it.
Any reason why - for both points?

It just feels like OD is becoming quieter and quieter.

Do you want looping background music embebbed into the page?

It just feels like OD is becoming quieter and quieter.
Yeah, new people were granted access to it like what, 9 months ago?

I don't think it's a problem with OD as much as it is with the forum in general. When I first signed up all the way back in ... 2003 I think it was, this place was really really busy due to the mention of Worms 3D hitting the internet. Yes, there was a lot of crap to heave through on the forums, but there was a whole stack of people, which meant that there were more decent posters. Lots lots more terrible ones, granted, but also decent posters. Philby had a comic going, Splapp was making awesome art. There was stuff to discuss. You could waste your entire day on this forum.

Team17 don't really contribute anymore. Not like they used to. I imagine they aren't allowed by the publishers to discuss stuff. People come here when new games are released. but they don't stay because there's nothing to do. Online Orgy is rubbish, people don't know what to discuss, if anything. Fan art is probably the best non-OD forum in my opinion, and few people there still post good art. I really only stayed for the Worms Armageddon forum, but I can't play that anymore, and so I just don't visit like I used to. I was actually thinking of leaving and making my new home on the Kingdom of Loathing forums (I might actually have done so already).

In related news, I've never really understood this forum. As I see it, you wanted to create a place where only the good posters could post to weed out the crap, but yet hardly anybody is invited here. Maybe it's because not enough new people stay for us to decide if they're any good. Do you think we should all be a bit more lenient with who we let into here?

No, we should stop bringing people in here because we're sucking the life out of the rest of the forum :)

The Team17 forum regime discourages the growth of the community.

It doesn't mean the whole community will go, of course, there are still wormers left and new people playing the game itself all the time. True that a lot of them seem to be pirating it, based on what I see in #help on WormNET, but at least it's bringing in new blood and getting people interested in the series.

OD is quiet because there is nothing much to discuss here.

The Team17 forum regime discourages the growth of the community.


Please elaborate.

Closed forum (as in the contents are private to non-registered), no committed general discussion forum, overly-detailed rules which sound very slightly overbearing, IMO.

Sometimes the culture around here can be a bit nasty, too, but that's not down to the admin or mods.

Closed forum (as in the contents are private to non-registered)

I really, really think this should go back to the way it used to be.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21972

Sel says he switched it to that format in order to make people register, giving a better number of the Worms fan-base, but I think that most people aren't going to take the time to register for a forum if they have no idea what the community is like. They can't even look at threads in Speculation & Discussion, for crying out loud.

Of course, if people can see what the community is like now it'll only encourage more morons to sign up.

Tell ya what - someone create a poll (either in OD or OO) about whether or not the forum as a whole should be "unlocked" for all to read (excluding OD, obviously), and if there's enough support, I'll pass the suggestion onto volcadmin.

Dibs on making the thread! I love messing around with polls.

EDIT: Done. http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=646182

Of course, if people can see what the community is like now it'll only encourage more morons to sign up.

The only people I see OD complain about anymore are Quakerworm, Shadowmoon and... Plasma, I guess.

There's no WAY you're telling me that's the worst we've ever had it.

Of course, if people can see what the community is like now it'll only encourage more morons to sign up.And whose fault is that? Any decent threads we make get put in here (usually). It's no wonder the rest of the forum has gone to pot. If we posted more of our threads outside then we might actually encourage discussion. At the moment it's usually young teens stimulating discussion outside of OD.

Oh not this age-old discussion again. If you wanna do something about the forum go on and do it, nothing's stopping you, it's just a forum. Don't just stale around whining about it like a bunch of old folk yammering about the golden old days.

I don't think there's anything much wrong with the forum as of right now. It's not ideal but it's mostly pretty good. Bear in mind also that we have all changed since we signed up. I joined in 2001, when I was 18, and I think I'm older than most of you.

Bear in mind also that we have all changed since we signed up. I joined in 2001, when I was 18, and I think I'm older than most of you.
True.
I'm so old that I even believe S2K's and AT's posts are crap. ;)

god have we ever changed around here. I look back on some of the old conversations and shudder :p

I miss talking about boobs. :(

I miss you talking about boobs.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=276183&postcount=14

I've read the reviews of GTA4 and now I'm caving and getting a PS3.

This is bad because I was hoping to wait for a few more price drops and also because I still kind of dislike the system as a whole, rather like how I felt about the PSP. Also because now I can't decide between the 40 GB or 80 GB model. And because it'll cost me out the nose.

Good because I'll get to play GTA4.

Multiplayer.


Heck yes.

honestly i feel like i've kind of moved on from this forum, i mean i'll still post occasionally but i really don't care about it all that much anymore

it's just done

I've read the reviews of GTA4 and now I'm caving and getting a PS3.
I'd seriously consider getting a 360 instead. For starters future expansions will be exclusively available as downloads for the 360 version - we're talking Vice City/San Andreas size expansions. Secondly the 360 handles online play much better than the PS3, although there is a monthly/quarterly/annual subscription fee to the service.

Finally, pretty much everyone I know who has a PS3 hardly uses it, and most of the people I know who own a 360 and a PS3 are picking up the 360 version. I'm getting the 360 version, for instance.

For starters future expansions will be exclusively available as downloads for the 360 version - we're talking Vice City/San Andreas size expansions.

The last I heard, the expansions weren't going to be anything more than a bonus mission here and there, some extra unlockable clothes for multiplayer, and the like. And I can't pay for the Live service for lack of a credit card, not that I would if I had the choice anyway. I don't care how much better the matchmaking is, I'm not altogether likely to be hopping into random matches anyway.

I'm sure the PC version will come along eventually, most likely bundled with whatever bonus content the 360 version does get, and I'll probably get that too once I can actually run it. :p Meantime I'm also anticipating Metal Gear Solid 4 and LittleBigPlanet, whilst the only thing on the 360 that interests me is Banjo-Threeie, and given how much of a shell of its former self Rare is and how little there's been on the existence of the game, I'm not that optimistic.

The last I heard, the expansions weren't going to be anything more than a bonus mission here and there, some extra unlockable clothes for multiplayer, and the like.
When did you hear this? Everything I've read on Kotaku suggests ruddy great big huge expansions further down the line, and that they'll be 360 exclusives (or, at least, that they'll be exclusively available to downlaod on the 360).
And I can't pay for the Live service for lack of a credit card, not that I would if I had the choice anyway. I don't care how much better the matchmaking is, I'm not altogether likely to be hopping into random matches anyway.
You could buy cards at, say, Best Buy or 7-Eleven or something, but then you don't need to be a paid subscriber to download additional content.

I'm sure the PC version will come along eventually, most likely bundled with whatever bonus content the 360 version does get, and I'll probably get that too once I can actually run it. :p Meantime I'm also anticipating Metal Gear Solid 4...
Ah, that does look like it might actually be good. That said, I said the same thing about MGS2 and MGS3, and they were... well, they weren't games.
...and LittleBigPlanet...
You mean the PS3 port of Second Life? :p
whilst the only thing on the 360 that interests me is Banjo-Threeie, and given how much of a shell of its former self Rare is and how little there's been on the existence of the game, I'm not that optimistic.
Yeah, Rare do suck. However there are plenty of top titles out on the 360 already.

I'm jes' sayin', y'know, that as a PS3 owner myself I can't in good conscience recommend the PS3 to anyone looking for a games console. If you're looking for a Blu-ray player then yeah, snag yourself a PS3, but as a gaming system the PS3 has incredibly little to offer.

You could buy cards at, say, Best Buy or 7-Eleven or something, but then you don't need to be a paid subscriber to download additional content.No, but you still need to pay for the content.

Best thing to do when looking for a games console is to go to a site that sells games and have a look under the console section of your choice. Then go to a reviews web site.

PS3's only been out a year or a year and a half depending where you live. Give it some time.

You mean the PS3 port of Second Life? :p

I think "House" better fits that description. LBP looks more like the TrackMania of platformers.

And I honestly thought Second Life had some good ideas, they were just marred by... everything else.

And I honestly thought Second Life had some good ideas, they were just marred by... everything else.People ?

I think you mean PLAYSTATION® Home.

Second Life is too complicated and very slow graphically. Entropia Universe is much nicer for both of those. But that's not for this thread.

I just received an email sent via the Dream17 email form:
I love you Mark!
Normally I'd assume this is automatically generated spam and trash it, but it came from the email address mark-diablovt@live.co.uk. So... chin-strokage abounds.

It would make a little more sense with a couple of strategic carriage returns.

i.e.

I love you

Mark!

Is that this diablo-vt (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=23016)?

I think Ben has a secret admirer.

It would make a little more sense with a couple of strategic carriage returns.

i.e.

I think you'll find those are tactical carriage returns.

That depends a bit on whether you say "it's a short message, therefore no edit can be strategic" or "it's a short message, therefore a proportionally large edit, therefore strategic"

You mean that was the email address that was entered in to your form.

Yes, that.

I've got a PS3 now, AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME


Now to wait for midnight.

Picture this scenario.

You're out with friends. It's nearly lunchtime, and you're about to do what you always do - go to McDonalds. But you, in a startling act of defiance, announce you no longer want to eat at McDonalds. You want to eat at Burger King.

So off you and your friends go to Burger King, and when you get there you instantly feel a strong desire for a Big Mac. But you can't go back now. You're in Burger King. You're at the front of the line. You order a Whopper, and you eat it, but secretly you really wish you were in McDonalds with that Big Mac.

That's almost, but not quite, similar to my predicament. And, as usual, my predicament involves Girls Who Like Me. Oy vey.

I loathe McDonalds burgers. I can only stand Carl's Jr, or home made ones.

I don't mind McDonalds burgers, but any other place (including fast food restaurants) makes better burgers.

I understand that Wimpy burgers are supposed to be pretty damn awful.

You understand incorrectly!

I would admit that I did not enjoy the experience as much as McDonalds at the end of it. That way, I will have made a fair judgement, having taken both offerings in to consideration.

Of course, the females may take that the wrong way.

I didn't sleep much last night. Maybe it's because I have a lot on my mind. Maybe I just couldn't get comfortable. Or maybe it's because I had two S'mores flavoured Pop Tarts and a can of Diet Coke before I went to bed.

I know that this time my insomnia is self-inflicted. I stay up late watching DVDs and drinking soda when I know I have to get up early in the morning. Why am I doing this when I know better? It's not because I hate my job, because I don't. I am stumped.

How is it called when you get a check from your workplace after you quit, I keep forgetting...

I have no idea.

Severance pay?

Computer problem?

Good riddance?

In any case, I was supposed to pick that up last week. "Come two weeks after your last day, the closest wednesday or thursday from 8:30-9:30 AM or 6-7 PM", they said. I did go last week but I was like 7 minutes past 7 PM. So I went today early at 8:30 AM, and turns out they still don't have the check, and they wanted me to pop by later today or to call before to confirm if it's already there or not.
-_-
I'm gonna call tomorrow and if they don't have it I'm probably going to do something evil. :3

I asked someone out today. Granted she lives in England and I probably won't see her until July at the earliest, but even still it made sense to me.

I asked someone out today. Granted she lives in England and I probably won't see her until July at the earliest, but even still it made sense to me.

When you realised that the girl who lived in your flat wasn't right for you, did you decide to counter it by looking for ones who lived as far away as possible?