After a lot of consideration we have decided to close the Team17 Forums, to allow us a more focused approach to supporting our customers and fans.

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The forum will officially close on Wednesday 12th June 2013.

Well if this isn't T17 in a nutshell, I don't know what is.

I find it rather sad that they have made the decision to close this forum; Team17 have not been providing any support for their older titles for a long time, but a caring group of you forum members certainly have done so for many years. This has been the main/only source of help for players of the older Worms games for what feels like a decade. Regardless of their age, people still (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66297) care (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=63493) about these games and will continue to play them for a long time. T17, no one cares if you don't want to provide support to your oldest fans, but don't prohibit others from doing so! (Honestly though, Bethany, if you're reading this, could you please explain T17's decision?)

Along with the loss of a valuable resource, members here lose the main connection they have with one another. Although I haven't contributed much outside of the Armageddon subforum, I have still enjoyed browsing the fan-art forum and other general antics around the place. It's been fun. :(

Well if this isn't T17 in a nutshell, I don't know what is.


Pretty much this. Such a sad state of affairs.

I find the lack of sensibility here a bit baffling, surely Team17 have had to notice over the years that some non-infinitesimal portion of their fan base, as they like to call us, vastly prefers forums over Facebook (no, Steam's horrible new discussion things are no replacement either) and would rather go without support and community interaction altogether than drastically change our habits and learn to live with the inferior platforms mentioned in the announcement.

But so even then, even if the only aim here was to simplify the channels through which official support is offered, what's the harm in announcing that from now on, e-mail is to be the only venue for support and leaving the forums online anyway, for the community to do whatever it pleases with? Are we really bad enough in our complaining to cast a shadow on the company's efforts? Inactive enough to not be worth renewing that vBulletin license for? I've seen game forums organised and moderated much more poorly, with little more than complaining going on in them, where the developers still felt thankful that at least there were people out there who cared about their products enough to discuss them.

So yeah, I also would appreciate a considerably more detailed explanation of the reasoning behind this decision.

This is a very sad news.

I may understand the economic reasons behind this decision, but anyway it's devastating for a fan like me.

I think this is a very common feeling right now for many other users... PLEASE, Team17, PLEASE!

DON'T CLOSE IT! :(

Well, I've always said I'd stay around until the ship sank. Then swim off to the shores of another community like a some common plague infested rat.

I didn't expect it to be so sudden though. I think it's kind of bullsh!t to make this announcement a week before doing it.

Edit: Removed dumb wall of text.

Wow. I am stunned. This forum was the first online community I got involved with, and I'll be sad to see it shut up shop. It's not what it once was, but there's always been a nostalgic attachment to this place for me.

So long, Team17 Forum. We had some great times. We also had some terrible times accompanied by trolls posting Pokémon pornography in the wee hours of the morning. Takes all sorts, I s'pose.

Anybody who wants to stay in touch with me can shoot an email to ben@PortsCenter.tv so we can trade Skype / Google Talk details.

This forum receives HUNDREDS of visits every day from members and guests. Even with the pre-2006 posts deleted, there is a wealth of knowledge on these forums. So many people quote/link posts and threads from this forum on other sites; I hope you will at least archive these forums so that you don't break the internetz. (sorry for more ranting)

yep, Levo's thread was about to hit 700,000 views very soon. probably now it wont have a chance :(

If only one man (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=1) was still around this wouldn't have happened

Yup, knew I'd still be here clinging to the wreck. Where's my fiddle? I had a fiddle here somewhere. I was gonna...

Wait a minute. I think I was gonna fight to the death with Vader.

Uh, seriously though, that's disappointing. That's really disappointing on its face. I mean... this place was like home to me for a while there. Met a lot of good people, many of whom have already moved on, of course...

It's been something.

Well that's some crap. This was the f-- wait, no, the second online community I got involved with. Met some of my longest-standing friends here, actually. (I think the first was a Harvest Moon forum where I was introduced to goatse for the first time. Fun and games.)

One of these years I was hoping to finally muster the drive to put together a Flash dramatization of Open Discussion's history. It was a secret VIP room in the back of the T17 pub, and the villain was Akuryou, who resented his exclusion and went all cloak and dagger, snuffing out forum regulars one by one with Iguana as his lackey, and culminating in a ridiculous battle in a secret fortress with a motorbike and a giant gundam. To be fair that was pretty over-ambitious for my skills.

I had also intended to do more with the Sims 2 thread, revealing Old Man Pikkul's secret basement robotics factory and involving more antics with the neighboring army sergeant and his kleptomaniac habits involving our morning paper.

Oh well. We had some good times. This place has kind of gone down the tubes since, although an all-out closure in favor of Facebook and Twitter is pretty bleeding stupid if I may say so.

As the last thing relevant to current gaming I'll get to express on this forum: new Animal Crossing is coming out in a few days. Looking forward to that.


Goodnight, sweet prince, and flights of homing pigeons sing thee to thy rest.

Oh, Team17. When we think you've screwed us over as much as is possible, you go and do this. This is also my second online community.

Sad time indeed, but I've gotta say I've been wondering how long it would take. This place couldn't have remained as dead as it's been for long before it wasn't worth the hassle of hosting anymore.

Sad to see it go... Lots of memories here... I'll miss you lot!

First internet community I got involved with.

Please burn the servers and therefore everything written on the internet by my 15 year old self.

Please burn the servers and therefore everything written on the internet by my 15 year old self.I'm sort of there. It is a shame to finally see the real end of this place, but really, it's been pretty close to dead for some time now. I'd be more torn up about it if I didn't basically hate my whole past. :p

Unfortunately this isn't the first attempt at closing the forum (pretty much every administrator, with the exception of APJ and Sel has tried), but I have a gut feeling it will be the last, sadly :(

This place is where i got all my Worms news... Where are WA beta updates going to be posted now?

Huh. This was my first online community. First joined at the news of W3D. It was a really vibrant and funny and interesting place then. Admittedly has never been the same since but I always held a fondness for this place and the WA tech support here has been wonderful in recent years.

Very sad to see it go, but I suppose it never was going to return to its glory days. :(

Unfortunately this isn't the first attempt at closing the forum (pretty much every administrator, with the exception of APJ and Sel has tried), but I have a gut feeling it will be the last, sadly :(

yep, now there's no volcane to prevent them :(

This was my first community too and I don't think we'll get an explanation for the closure, its just going to close like that's it, gone, kapeesh.

This was my first community too and I don't think we'll get an explanation for the closure, its just going to close like that's it, gone, kapeesh.

i don't think so :p

http://puu.sh/3ajHE.png

I'm sort of there. It is a shame to finally see the real end of this place, but really, it's been pretty close to dead for some time now. I'd be more torn up about it if I didn't basically hate my whole past. :p
Look on the bright side, anyone you ever hated now hates themselves after seeing their past hateful self! We've come full circle. :p

Well that's a real shame :( This was the first and only community I've really ever been heavily involved in, especially for this long (even if my presence has been less over the last few years, I've still kept an eye on it).

I'm certainly up for shifting my presence over to whatever becomes the Team17 Forum substitute.

EDIT: Oh, my Skype and Facebook are available on my profile, or easy to guess if you care too, because I'm not very creative with these sort of things. Feel free to add me.

I started off on the Oddworld forums a long time ago, then after a fight between the admin and one the most active members, half the user base left and started a new forum. It was an oddysee of sorts, some might even call it an exoddus.
In any case I found T17F not long after that. Around the time of W3D I think, back when Spadge would talk to us.. such glorious times.

Yeah, when W3D was in the thick of development and Team17 was actually invested in this forum, those were some good times. There were also some weird times, stupid times and embarrassing times, but maybe that's me mostly reflecting on my own weird adolescence. I don't propose to beat ages, what, 8-17 is what WormGod said? But in my case I joined when I was 16, and I'm somehow 27 now. So, yeah.

I don't even really know if I have a point to make here. There's just a lot to say and I'm just kind of blabbering about it.

Remember my old website? Boy all that crap was bad. But at the time, I enjoyed drawing those old comics, and at least some people enjoyed reading them, so, it's all good. Bad Hair Day might be my all-time best-written comic (what this really means is up to you).

Let's see if I can find... yup, still there (http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/ZeroTheme.mid).

Nope, 403.

Anyway, back on topic... Ish.

Hi all, how are you?

It has been six years (first person to say "YOU'LL NEVER LEAVE" or some variant... is me). I've passed my degree (after, coincidentally, six years), and am now in my second year as a gainfully-employed programmer.

I'm not quite sure how.

During that time, I started buying lots of board games, playing table-top RPGs and CCGs, bought (and read!) immense amounts of books, comics, and manga, watched anime and TV shows, and played a lot of video games (owned: 200. Finished: 35 or so...).

I've started rubberswording, built a PC (without it catching fire), built another for my brother (which caught fire a little bit), and generally mucked around online a lot.

I've helped run conventions, and I've written a thesis on board game design. I've become a librarian for two years, and I've become a volunteer games demonstrator.

And now, one of the first sites I became a member of is going away.

I (vaguely) remember The Allotment, and WA Toystore, and the Worms BBS. I remember being WA Toystore was the first site where I interacted with people (mainly the guy running it, whose handle I forget now), while I didn't really hang around the BBS for long.

Then this place started up, and I came here. I started posting, meeting people I'd only briefly seen on the BBS. Soon, I found myself in a place called Open Discussion, based on getting a number of posts, to my mild surprise. I started talking to people on ICQ (remember ICQ? It remembers YOUUUU!!! (http://www.icq.com/en)) and a chat system (possibly on StrategyPlanet?). I still have a collection of print-outs from the old Worms 2 site and The Allotment.

Then OD became invite-only, and posts were removed. I started visiting less and less. I went left, while everyone else went right. I can't even find my rage post about quitting. I can't even remember why I said I was doing it. I look back at older posts, and I cringe a little (though not at the grammar; that, at least, was always perfect. :D). I wonder what I would have been like had I not left. Would I have grown out of my posting random comments phase naturally, or did it require a shock like leaving? Would I have made it through university, or am I seeing that as a crutch?

But that's both philosophy and psychiatry, and while I've met several people in both disciplines (and been examined by the latter), I'm a programmer, and what's past is past.

Shame I've come in time to watch the curtain call.

EDIT: Found my goodbye post. Good Lord, I was being melodramatic. "The wyrm has indeed turned, and it has fangs.", my word. Possibly the moment my teenage adolescence reached its peak. It was also when I was repeating second year, so it actually WAS a low point for me. Perhaps I really wasn't thinking straight.

Huh, I wasn't aware of this. Not my first community, but my first english community. I actually learned a ton of stuff from the people here...
Here's my thanks to all the guys from the art section, the only reason I got invested in painting in the first place.
You won't be forgotten. :-/

Huh, I wasn't aware of this. Not my first community, but my first english community. I actually learned a ton of stuff from the people here...
Here's my thanks to all the guys from the art section, the only reason I got invested in painting in the first place.
You won't be forgotten. :-/That's a good point. I don't know if I'd be half as successful at art if not for this place! As awful as 99% of my worms art was, I learned SO MUCH while I was here..... Oh, man, I practically owe my future career to this place....

That's a good point. I don't know if I'd be half as successful at art if not for this place! As awful as 99% of my worms art was, I learned SO MUCH while I was here..... Oh, man, I practically owe my future career to this place....

Indeed, it's pretty much the same to me. I only bought a tablet because of the awesome artists from here. Knew nothing about colors and composition. I'd spent hours, several hours looking at silly lil' worm fanart like if I was starring into a masterpiece, trying to see and understand everything the person did to get such incredible result.
I still have Splapp's Bulbassaur and Koffing worms saved as eternal reference of great coloring.
If I manage to make any game in my career it'll be thanks to you *******s. Fhank you.

Nope, 403.Guess it doesn't like files being linked from offsite. Shrug. There's a link right there on the 403 page to play it anyway, though. It's just that old midi rendition of Zero's theme from MMX2, which used to play on the front page of groundzerocomics.us.

Well.. It's been swell. I haven't been here in nearly seven years, but before then it was quite a place to get info and solve a bunch of problems. Those were the days. All good things come to an end, yes? However, BlameThePixel is still twitching every now and again, and I'll be damned if I don't go down with that ship, too! It was a pleasure being a part of all of this, even if it was only a small part.

I wanted to give something back to this community, but I felt that a forum post wasn't good enough. So after some deliberation I decided on the medium with which to deliver my message.

Enjoy this Team 17 tribute FMV (Forum Music Video), everyone, and farewell. (switch to High Quality/720p) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTQk9cLFaM

Looking back, it is impressive to see how much has changed since this forum first popped up. Since I first registered. My first online community. All the people I met, friends and enemies. All the things I learned, all the embarrassments I made. And all the frankly crazy s*** that went on around here. My life wouldn't have been the same without this place... actually I'm not sure if that's impressive or just sad now. :p Oh well.

I wanted to give something back to this community, but I felt that a forum post wasn't good enough. So after some deliberation I decided on the medium with which to deliver my message.

Enjoy this Team 17 tribute FMV (Forum Music Video), everyone, and farewell. (switch to High Quality/720p) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTQk9cLFaM
Where do you come up with this stuff. :p

It's been.. A decent time waster to check this forum once a year for the last decade or so, I guess.

We should have, like, a wild party on the last day. An Irish wake sort of thing.

Oh man, so many memories. It's hard to be coherent about anything. Good to see everyone again, though.

Oh man, so many memories. It's hard to be coherent about anything. Good to see everyone again, though.
It seems only appropriate to link to this right now

http://www.varley9.freeserve.co.uk/wormposs/faq3/t17faq31.htm


(I'm not sure I want the railways to be renationalised)

It's rather ironic that the forum is now more active having had its closure announced than it has been in about the last 5 years!

It's rather ironic that the forum is now more active having had its closure announced than it has been in about the last 5 years!

If we're unlucky this could all just be a hoax to bring the community back together.

Although I did happen to notice this:

Most users ever online was 1,080, 22 Dec 2012 at 21:23.

I don't know whether that's a fluke 'cause of the Steam Sales, but clearly there's still been a fair share of visitors, veterans or otherwise.

Oft99 here, for those who were wondering. I had to make a new account after I forgot both the login details and the registration email address of my last one.

As long as avenues like Dream17 and Steam groups remain active, I can live with this forum being gone. Still, i'm incredibly sad to see it go. For better or for tragically worse, I actually feel this forum was signifcant to my growth as a human being during those particular years of my life when I used to come here. Though i'd rather not think about it now, all of my idiotic comments, irritating "DRAW MY SIGWORM" requests and general aspergers-addled blabbering might not have been for nothing after all.

I made a longer post (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=796447&postcount=38) in a neighbouring thread about some of my memories here, but it got buried under a lot of newer posts before anyone read it thanks to the perk of new accounts here requiring moderator approval of their posts. The same will probably happen to this post too. Oh well.

Oh, one more thing:

Remember my old website? Boy all that crap was bad. But at the time, I enjoyed drawing those old comics, and at least some people enjoyed reading them, so, it's all good. Bad Hair Day might be my all-time best-written comic (what this really means is up to you).

Let's see if I can find... yup, still there (http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/ZeroTheme.mid).

Silence. Ground Zero was AMAZING.

this wasn't even the first worms community I joined

and it won't be the last I see gone

it's not like we've already lost countless of material in this very same forums, they already changed them and kept no archives, which in retrospect, makes sense, since it was a time when they actually dared get involved with the community and it was mostly to lie.

maybe they'll finally announce ranks are back in their facebook

it's not like we've already lost countless of material in this very same forums, they already changed them and kept no archives, which in retrospect, makes sense, since it was a time when they actually dared get involved with the community and it was mostly to lie.
Speaking of, I'll have to get used to not having people accuse Team17 of conspiracies again. Oh, what fun we had with these stupid stupid arguments.

Hurry, refugees! The paradox has happened! You have only a couple of days to make it to the other realm and escape the implosion!

http://www.dream17.info/forum/index.php
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3418708780/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dream17

ONE LAST POST BEFORE I VANISH

Well, what's to say, that one year after I joined, when there were somewhat active artists around was kinda fun. I guess. This place had already been dead when I created this account and I don't even know most of the fellas posting in this thread. 90% of the discussions had nothing to do with Team17 and its games and the rest was mostly complaining. There wasn't much to receive from this community. I'm glad about still being in contact with a few of the members, mostly those that used to hang around in the fan art sub-forums, but that's about it.

Of course there have been visitors over the years but for the most part what we had was a ghost town of a forum inhabited by a handful of people discussing unrelated things. It's surprising it's actually been kept alive for so long.

I'm not keen on Facebook and Twitter but I do believe the Steam Forums are alright for game-related discussions, and this forum should definitely be archived for the sake of the support content for older games that's been put here. Other than that, for those old-timers looking to chat with each other, geez, there are more ways to communicate over the internet than official game companies' forums.

In short, it's probably a waste of resources to have this thing run for much longer being the main reason to shut it down. "nostalgia" is a foreign feeling for me, obviously

True, dat, sir. True. It's also old tech and brings down the company image. Looking dated costs jobs. I think forums have definitely had their day as the excitement about communities. Though they are still useful and more suitable than a mere group of book of the Face! It's like the difference between MS Paint and Corel Draw.

After a few days of panic, I faced the reality and now I'm ready to say goodbye to this forum.

I joined in late 2010, because of Worms Reloaded, and I don't know many of the historical members too... but this place was quite important to me and I had a wonderful time in it.

Thank you Team17 Forum, thank you known users (btw, nice to see you again Thurbo) and also thank you, many unknown historical users. :)

I think I'll always remember this part of my life as bizarre collection of digital and wacky Worms madness!

this wasn't even the first worms community I joined

and it won't be the last I see gone

it's not like we've already lost countless of material in this very same forums, they already changed them and kept no archives, which in retrospect, makes sense, since it was a time when they actually dared get involved with the community and it was mostly to lie.

maybe they'll finally announce ranks are back in their facebook
Actually most of the forum has been lost to various database failures, which is why I don't think it's gonna last as an archive. :p

Silence. Ground Zero was AMAZING.Haha, thanks for saying so. You may be pleased to know that I intend to re-host all those comics some time soon, in a discrete spot, in honor of this forum and/or for old times' sake.

Edit: I said something similar on Fartbook, but here's something worth observing that I'm surprised I haven't yet. I met my best (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=374) friends (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=3769) here. So, there's that (http://monkeyforahead.deviantart.com/art/WAKA-LAKA-LAKA-7304197).

That's not girl talk, either. That is just facts.

Edit: I said something similar on Fartbook, but here's something worth observing that I'm surprised I haven't yet. I met my best (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=374) friends (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=3769) here. So, there's that (http://monkeyforahead.deviantart.com/art/WAKA-LAKA-LAKA-7304197).

Ah yes, Waka Laka. That disturbed me and thrilled me in equal measure at the time.

Also I either can't remember Ground Zero or just arrived here too late to see it, but it'd be great to see them re-uploaded somewhere. :)

Waka-Laka! :D

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person on the internet that misses animutations. :p

Enjoy this Team 17 tribute FMV (Forum Music Video), everyone, and farewell. (switch to High Quality/720p) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTQk9cLFaM

iggy, this is art. never change.