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Mariox64
7 Mar 2011, 10:06
Hello, I was wondering 3 things. First of all, where is there a place where I can buy WA then download it? (I Don't have a CD drive) Second, why do people hate buying games like Worms Armageddon from Trymedia so much? Third, is the newer game "Worms 2: Armageddon" For Xbox 360, Iphone/ipad, and PC (As worms reloaded) Based off of this one? Please reply quickly.

CyberShadow
7 Mar 2011, 10:11
Hello, I was wondering 3 things. First of all, where is there a place where I can buy WA then download it?Excluding TryMedia-like versions - not at the moment.Second, why do people hate buying games like Worms Armageddon from Trymedia so much?They are not updatable, and you will not be able to play online with them.Third, is the newer game "Worms 2: Armageddon" For Xbox 360, Iphone/ipad, and PC (As worms reloaded) Based off of this one?No, it's a complete rewrite. I believe only some speech banks were re-used in the new generation.

bonz
7 Mar 2011, 10:52
why do people hate buying games like Worms Armageddon from Trymedia so much?
It was also highly overpriced and basically a rip-off, because it didn't mention anywhere that it couldn't be patched.
AFAIK, their only response to inquiries about the beta updates was something along "when it's an official patch" (even though the beta update was already hosted on T17's official WA website).
is the newer game "Worms 2: Armageddon" For Xbox 360, Iphone/ipad, and PC (As worms reloaded) Based off of this one?
Gameplay and feature wise it's more based on the original Worms game from 1995 with updated graphics, featuring the same lower player and team counts, smaller weapons set and basic customisability.

Mariox64
8 Mar 2011, 11:21
Okay, so which one of these games would you recommend: Worms HD, Or Worms 2 Armageddon for iPad? I see that worms 2 has lower ratings on the app store. Which do your recommend? Or should I get both?

bonz
8 Mar 2011, 14:10
I can only say that you should get Worms Armageddon for PC, no matter what else you'll buy. Nowadays, it's very cheap anyway.
Obey Lex' personal opinion! :eek:

As for Worms on the iPhone, W2A is definitely the better game, with more weapons and more stuff to do, but it's still a very reduced game in comparison to the old WA on PC and it's played on a mobile phone.

Mariox64
8 Mar 2011, 17:42
But I don't have a CD Drive. I need a way to get it digitally.

Mariox64
8 Mar 2011, 18:31
But if I do that, won't it ask me for a CD?

Thurbo
8 Mar 2011, 20:28
It's possible to play this game without a cd, see here (http://worms2d.info/Running_WA_without_the_CD). As mentioned before, you'll need the help of a friend to do that.

Worms 2: Armageddon on the iPad is worth a try, however you should be aware it somewhat feels like a "minigame" compared to the PC games (It's just that with most iPod/Phone/Pad games).

b1llygo4t
9 Mar 2011, 03:17
mario this sounds a little more complicated than it actually is. since your computer does not have a disc drive you are going to need to use an image mounting program to create fake disc drives for you to put your fake discs(ISOs) into.

for Worms Armageddon you have to physically own the disc to legaly run an iso of it.

Lex
9 Mar 2011, 07:55
Disclaimer: I am not encouraging piracy. I am merely quoting my own current understanding of US law with regards to this rather delicate matter. My understanding may not be entirely correct. If it's not, please correct me.

It is my understanding that, unless laws have changed since ~2003 when I read extensively about this, you are legally allowed to buy the game, then create or obtain ROM data identical to the game's physical media only once you own a licensed physical retail copy of the game.

I don't currently own an optical media drive myself, but I still use an ISO file of the game which I created myself from the original MicroProse US WA CD many years ago.

bonz
9 Mar 2011, 08:41
you are legally allowed to buy the game, then create or obtain ROM data identical to the game's physical media only once you own a licensed physical retail copy of the game.
Indeed.
It's the same here in Austria too.
Once you have the license, it doesn't matter where you get the data/content from.

b1llygo4t
10 Mar 2011, 08:40
team 17 should email the iso as an alternative to distributing physical copies. if they include the most recent beta update with that email it makes it all an instant, easy, one time transaction and install to get up and running and online. they could instruct users to burn a copy or mount the image and include basic information for both.

users would have digital assurance that their copy can be easily and legally re-obtained from t17. this would help deter piracy. it would increase the number of current beta update users out there. t17 could make enough profit to make it worth selling the game again. no more of these threads.

::edit:: here is some super easy to use, open source and free image mounting software. there is also a portable version that does not need to be installed http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/

Explorer
11 Mar 2011, 06:38
team 17 should email the iso as an alternative to distributing physical copies.

I don't think it's technically possible. Is there any mail server that can store a 500MB attachment?

franpa
11 Mar 2011, 09:26
Yes, but you'd need a premium account.

Lex
11 Mar 2011, 10:43
They could just do it how a ton of indie games and apps (SpaceChem, Fraps, mIRC, WinAmp, Minecraft, Humble Indie Bundle) did it. It's the modern way.

b1llygo4t
12 Mar 2011, 00:42
ok then have them input a one time use key that they get through email to download it from the site

bonz
12 Mar 2011, 09:45
Also, a cooperation with Valve would be nice, to make those keys redeemable on Steam.

IMO, Humble Indie Bundle have an excellent business model.
They might as well ditch the "Indie", and open it up for every company that is willing to be humble.

Mariox64
15 Mar 2011, 08:44
So... 3 NEW QUESTIONS! Is there a way to buy a downloadable Worms 4 Mayhem? And does online play work with the trymedia version of worms 4? (I'm guessing not) And last, Why do you people think $7 is a ripoff for a worms game from trymedia?

bonz
15 Mar 2011, 09:06
So... 3 NEW QUESTIONS! Is there a way to buy a downloadable Worms 4 Mayhem? And does online play work with the trymedia version of worms 4? (I'm guessing not) And last, Why do you people think $7 is a ripoff for a worms game from trymedia?
I just checked the prices on Trygames again:
Worms 2 costs €11.99 and World Party €22.99.
They've already discontinued Worms Armageddon, but IIRC, it was somewhere in between, at around €15.

Mind you, 1€ = 1.3$, so that's clearly a rip-off to me, because you can get those games for under €10 including worldwide shipping nowadays.

As for Worms 4 Mayhem, I don't think that it's available as a download.

Mariox64
15 Mar 2011, 09:21
Where I am, It says that it's $6.99 in american dollars. AMERICA GETS IT CHEAPER... I think.

EDIT: Also, I saw worms 4 on there as a download.

EDIT2: HELP! I NEED HELP! I CAN'T TWEAK THE WEAPONS! It's just a HUGE jumble of symbols and letters and numbers! HELP

Mariox64
16 Mar 2011, 23:55
Come on guys! I really need help with this!

Explorer
17 Mar 2011, 00:31
Come on guys! I really need help with this!

1. Are you referring to W:A or W4 Mayhem?
2. Could you post a screenshot? Because I don't understand what's going on for what you say.
(In W:A press PAUSE key to take a screenshot.)

Mariox64
17 Mar 2011, 00:49
No, It's worms 4 Mayhem. The tweak file is REALLY weird.

A sample from the file:

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Er... Yeah. :?

GrO
17 Mar 2011, 03:26
No, It's worms 4 Mayhem. The tweak file is REALLY weird.

Firstly you should tweak your IQ level, cause even my cat knows it's Worms Armageddon section, so why should we talk about other game here ?!

Stick to Worms 4 Mayhem section, but I doubt anyone will help a pirate...

Mariox64
17 Mar 2011, 03:41
WUT. I'm no pirate. :mad:

Explorer
17 Mar 2011, 06:22
No, It's worms 4 Mayhem. The tweak file is REALLY weird.

Since the problem is related to Worms 4 Mayhem, I suggest to move the posts to this forum (http://forum.team17.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=79). (A moderator could help you do this.)

For your strange symbols you described, you probably have a DRM-protected version of W4M. Trygames' release is one of the example. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Firstly you should tweak your IQ level, cause even my cat knows it's Worms Armageddon section, so why should we talk about other game here ?!
@GrO:
I don't like the way you say this. You might hurt newbies.
(Please PM me if you want to discuss this. It's not worth talking in public, I think.)

Mariox64
17 Mar 2011, 17:49
It doesn't really hurt me. I've been on forums before, I'm even a veteran on one. And I'm quite popular, almost everyone there knows me. But back on topic, Is there ANY way to fix it? And the reason I don't want this moved is because I already posted a topic in the Worms 4 Forum WEEKS ago, and no one has posted in that forum since then. So... Yeah.

Muzer
17 Mar 2011, 19:43
Most Trygames software encrypts its data files, for no adequate reason. So basically, no. That's why most of us around here hate Trygames ;)

b1llygo4t
17 Mar 2011, 21:29
mario, Worms Armageddon is by far the most popular in the series. it has the best physics. online play is still VERY active after 10 years. Cybershadow and Deadcode put out new official updates for it roughly twice a year and they implemented a modular system that allows members of the community to add patches that change the game logic.

this game and eeprom programming are the only reasons i still run a windows computer.

the fact that you cant get help with worms 4 mayhem from its board or this board should be an indicator of its community, support and popularity.

just bite the bullet, track down a disc, make or download an iso and mount it. its not like you have to carry the disc around

bumbatku
23 Mar 2011, 22:14
That is really great to know. Thanks for the link. :)




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