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thomasp
15 Aug 2008, 07:57
It seems we've had a flood of spambots spamming via PM's last night. If you've been a victim of this, please post the username of the spammer here and we'll take action. Current reported names are:

aliveli
byroncline
colls
baros
aliveli
balaclava
baddaboom


Thanks.

Paul.Power
15 Aug 2008, 08:20
abdefg. Or was it abcdefgh? Can't remember now.

cyph3r
15 Aug 2008, 08:51
Boogie sent me a message about some website or other, I guess it was spam as this user hasn't posted anything since 2004

franpa
15 Aug 2008, 09:19
http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=7488
(0010010101)

MrBunsy
15 Aug 2008, 09:23
barosanu (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=46293)

....

MtlAngelus
15 Aug 2008, 09:24
buddaboom, but he's banned already. :p

iCarbonX
15 Aug 2008, 09:32
306S16- Some sort of link to a youtube thing, virus?

GrimOswald
15 Aug 2008, 10:18
aaaa

*Sings the Spam song*

.JeT
15 Aug 2008, 11:02
aaaaa

(One a more than GrimOswalds spambot)

Splapp
15 Aug 2008, 11:16
I got one from alden http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=59101

pilot62
15 Aug 2008, 11:26
I got one from bugmenot.

shadowman
15 Aug 2008, 12:07
aaaaa

(One a more than GrimOswalds spambot)

I'm pretty sure that was mine as well.

CJH
15 Aug 2008, 12:07
Guy named bauser.
Spelt like this: bauser

Was sent a link to (What I think is) a perverted picture. (Don't know for sure because I Never clicked on the link)The Same thing happened to Muzer. Was got by Avimak. Another person called Dule93 Requested a Patch for Worms41.1 in exchange for a dangerous drug.

TeDdywoRm
15 Aug 2008, 12:50
I got one from Collins. Oh, wait, I think you know it already.

Shockdude
15 Aug 2008, 15:04
bernholdt (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=66198)
the subject was something about "uncenzored websites" that i didn't bother to read
:p

thomasp
15 Aug 2008, 15:46
Right, hopefully most of them have been banned now and restrictions on PM's are now in place


Edit:

It seems there's too many to ban, so I won't bother - some have been IP banned so won't actually show up as banned to members... However, any members without any posts won't be able to send PM's until they have a certain number of postsl. I'll leave this thread open for a bit - any other problems relating to this, please post in here!

poninja
15 Aug 2008, 17:52
i got something from bob1

Melon
15 Aug 2008, 17:56
I don't suppose you care about my guy then?

http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=70703

His name is 331319.

poninja
15 Aug 2008, 18:11
all these names sounds like passwords

quakerworm
15 Aug 2008, 18:20
306S16- Some sort of link to a youtube thing, virus?
worse. viagra adds. at least, i can find a use for a computer virus.

super_frea
15 Aug 2008, 18:37
I got spam from chuchadas

Unlucky my spammer has the coolest name. :cool:

Edit: Oh and Shadowmoon too ;)

poninja
15 Aug 2008, 18:44
i got some video about tube trick or something

about porntube video

Plainplane
15 Aug 2008, 21:41
I got one from bugmenot.So did I.

Link to his profile. (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=42954)

MtlAngelus
15 Aug 2008, 21:46
I got one from thomasp.







I kid, I kid. :P

Plainplane
15 Aug 2008, 21:53
So, I can log in somewhere with one of these spam accounts using the username as the password so I can IP ban everywhere I want?

StoneFrog
15 Aug 2008, 22:32
I got one from bob20.

shadowman
15 Aug 2008, 23:48
We should put a captcha or whatever it's called in the signup page.

Y'know, that thing where you type the letters you see?

SomePerson
16 Aug 2008, 01:05
You misseed the point - the bot appears to have hijacked existing accounts with poor passwords, thereby getting around the whole signup process. A captcha would only work on the sign in page which would be terribly annoying or the send pm page which would be even more annoying to deal with than the once off spam.

And I seem to recall AndrewTaylor writing something about how captchas fail, but I can't seem to find it.

quakerworm
16 Aug 2008, 09:01
You misseed the point - the bot appears to have hijacked existing accounts with poor passwords, thereby getting around the whole signup process.
yeah. checked some of the signup dates, and the accounts were created way before the attack. this makes me sad, but also very curious. i think, a search for such accounts on other forums might prove to be of tactical interest.

on a side note, what they need to do to prevent this is limit number of login attempts.

iCarbonX
16 Aug 2008, 11:03
Well, i haven't had any more overnight and the spammers haven't been on. So is that sorted once and for all?

thomasp
16 Aug 2008, 11:06
I got one from thomasp.







I kid, I kid. :P

*Bans*

We should put a captcha or whatever it's called in the signup page.

Y'know, that thing where you type the letters you see?

There already is one. But these are very easy to overcome, hence how we sometimes have spambots attack the forum, as with some simple coding you can easily "break" a captcha. All of these problems have occurred by people having insecure passwords.

Well, i haven't had any more overnight and the spammers haven't been on. So is that sorted once and for all?

With a bit of luck.

MtlAngelus
16 Aug 2008, 14:34
yeah. checked some of the signup dates, and the accounts were created way before the attack. this makes me sad, but also very curious. i think, a search for such accounts on other forums might prove to be of tactical interest.

on a side note, what they need to do to prevent this is limit number of login attempts.

It's already limited isn't it? If you fail 5 times then you have to wait 15 minutes before being able to login again.

McMaster
16 Aug 2008, 14:39
balaclava

That user sent me a PM last night linking somewhere and the title was something about illegal Youtube.

I deleted the message immediately.

shadowman
16 Aug 2008, 16:33
The reason there were previously-logged-on accounts that were used to send the spam was most likely because the first spambot infected the other two. With a quick test of my anti-virus program, that website is just packed with trojans. My best guess is key loggers.

thomasp
16 Aug 2008, 18:16
The reason there were previously-logged-on accounts that were used to send the spam was most likely because the first spambot infected the other two. With a quick test of my anti-virus program, that website is just packed with trojans. My best guess is key loggers.
Unlikely, since the previously-logged-in accounts hadn't been used in years. Most of them had zero posts or at most one or two. The accounts also appeared to have very easily-guessible passwords.

shadowman
16 Aug 2008, 21:04
Oh.

Okay then. Must've just been bad luck, I suppose.

McMaster
16 Aug 2008, 23:20
I think spambots invaded and Dream17, because my protecting service says it has a virus! :eek:

Regulator
17 Aug 2008, 10:15
Spam recieved from anything (http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=28014).

Shadowmoon
17 Aug 2008, 16:36
I haven't had one, thanks to BW.

I just hope T17.tk doesn't get the spammers....

Paul.Power
17 Aug 2008, 16:46
I got one from bugmenot.

Something very fitting about that given the basic idea behind bugmenot.

Muzer
17 Aug 2008, 16:55
Ok, just a few things to say, all the accounts afaik have the same username as password, also, bugmenot is actually a service to get around mandatory registrations, and so should be banned, as should everything on the bugmenot website.

thomasp
17 Aug 2008, 17:01
... which is why every bugmenot account is banned on this forum, and we regularly check them and ban new ones.

However, bugmenot won't let us ban the forum from their database, since that breaches their Ts&Cs.

Oft99
17 Aug 2008, 23:33
I got one from someone who was either called 000 or 0000, I don't remember.

SupSuper
19 Aug 2008, 00:48
I got one from "coleman" while I was on holidays.

Plainplane
19 Aug 2008, 16:31
However, bugmenot won't let us ban the forum from their database, since that breaches their Ts&Cs.That seems to make little sense considering what happened.

How can removing your forum from their database breach their Terms of Service and Conditions?

As far as it appears, they are violating this board's Ts&Cs by bringing spammers to this board that are attempting to steal confidential information.

thomasp
19 Aug 2008, 17:29
That seems to make little sense considering what happened.

How can removing your forum from their database breach their Terms of Service and Conditions?

As far as it appears, they are violating this board's Ts&Cs by bringing spammers to this board that are attempting to steal confidential information.

Because if you read their T&Cs you'll see that it states you're not to abuse the privilege by spamming forums and the only sites they do block (prevent you adding usernames) are sites where you have to pay to register and sites like Facebook where it's full of private data. Bog standard internet forums like this one, according to their T&Cs are allowed to be added to the site and if you use their blocking tool, they'll remove it.

Bugmenot don't violate this forum's T&Cs by bringing spammers, it's the specific user account (and therefore user) that violates the T&Cs. If someone DDoS'd this forum using a bugmenot account, most likely only the specific user could be sued, not bugmenot.


And also, what confidential information is there in this forum? Everything's viewable by non-registered users (bar fanart). If you're foolish enough to enter your credit card/bank account details into a scammer's site, then you deserve to be scammed :p

SupSuper
19 Aug 2008, 17:40
Abuse aside, I quite like BugMeNot, otherwise I'd need an account on every site I decide to even read or download something from (because there are plenty of forums that don't allow guest reading and I'm not buying into every site's marketing schemes :p)

It'd probably be better if BugMeNot only kept one account per site though, otherwise they'll easily attract misuse.

MonkeyforaHead
23 Aug 2008, 08:25
I got some spam from AEP about a week back that I only just noticed.

shadowman
27 Aug 2008, 01:27
I got some spam from AEP about a week back that I only just noticed.

WHEN did you get back? <3

franpa
29 Aug 2008, 06:18
I just then, got some spam email (it does not seem to be from team17 but says it is) and the title/message is:

Title: Siir Physc @ Team17 Forum (DOOLENCAPUTOL@student.jpc.qld.edu.au)

Message: This is a message from Siir Physc at Team17 Forum
( http://forum.team17.co.uk/index.php ). The Team17 Forum owners cannot
accept any responsibility for the contents of the email.

To email Siir Physc, you can use this online form:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=94040
OR, by email:
mailto:DOOLENCAPUTOL@student.jpc.qld.edu.au

This is the message:

its funny because your a douchbag want to have sex/i like cocks and i like to show my big ass titties

bonz
29 Aug 2008, 09:26
Big ass titties!
Where's the problem?

Shadowmoon
29 Aug 2008, 09:40
Oh yes.... the PM spambots can still spam emails...

Muzer
29 Aug 2008, 09:56
Hmm, I can't remember which address I even use.

franpa
29 Aug 2008, 12:05
Oh yes.... the PM spambots can still spam emails...
They shouldn't be ably to spam emails via Team17 forums since they can't log in to do so (banned and all that stuff ya know?).

Shadowmoon
29 Aug 2008, 13:57
They shouldn't be ably to spam emails via Team17 forums since they can't log in to do so (banned and all that stuff ya know?).

Wrong.


It seems there's too many to ban, so I won't bother - some have been IP banned so won't actually show up as banned to members... However, any members without any posts won't be able to send PM's until they have a certain number of postsl. I'll leave this thread open for a bit - any other problems relating to this, please post in here!

Meaning some of the spammers are still about, thus able to spam emails.

Muzer
29 Aug 2008, 14:38
I tried logging into BugMeNot and I could indeed e-mail myself..

franpa
29 Aug 2008, 14:58
well, thats something the admin can look into... denying banned users various functions other then just browsing forums and replying to them.

Plasma
29 Aug 2008, 15:22
well, thats something the admin can look into... denying banned users various functions other then just browsing forums and replying to them.
Franpa, banned users can't even log into their accounts! What the heck are you talking about?

franpa
29 Aug 2008, 15:27
well how on gods green earth, do they send emails to users via the team17 forum then? bleh im possibly just a bit confused because the guy that did spam me is possible not banned at all (Shadowmoon hinted at this).

Shadowmoon
29 Aug 2008, 15:43
Let me tell you again:

Some users haven't been banned. Why? because there's too many to ban.

Which means?

that they can click on your profile and email you freely, without a problem... well unless the user has specified they do not wish to be emailed. I'm going to choose to hide my email after i go off BW.

I suggest all of you worried about receiving spam do that.

So yes, i'd say its very likely your spammer hasn't been banned.

Muzer
29 Aug 2008, 16:42
You could get around it by increasing the post/PM-moderation to include E-mails as well

Shadowmoon
29 Aug 2008, 17:55
You could get around it by increasing the post/PM-moderation to include E-mails as well

Maybe they can't do that?

thomasp
29 Aug 2008, 17:59
I just then, got some spam email (it does not seem to be from team17 but says it is) and the title/message is:

That user has already been dealt with. And they were NOT a PM spambot, they just posted a load of offensive messages on the forum.

Oh yes.... the PM spambots can still spam emails...

No they can't. That user was not a PM spambot.

They shouldn't be ably to spam emails via Team17 forums since they can't log in to do so (banned and all that stuff ya know?).

That user sent the e-mail BEFORE they were banned.

Wrong.


Err, you're wrong actually :p
Meaning some of the spammers are still about, thus able to spam emails.

No, they can't. This spammer was totally unrelated to the others.
Some users haven't been banned. Why? because there's too many to ban.

Because alternative measures have been taken against the users involved in the PM SPAM ATTACK which prevents them from accessing their accounts. Also, just because their user status isn't "banned" doesn't mean they're not banned.

that they can click on your profile and email you freely, without a problem... well unless the user has specified they do not wish to be emailed. I'm going to choose to hide my email after i go off BW.

Any user can e-mail you freely as long as your settings allow it and their status isn't "Banned" or "Being Watched".

So yes, i'd say its very likely your spammer hasn't been banned.

That was a different spammer, and they have been banned.


Just because someone sends an abusive e-mail doesn't mean it's the same as pornospammers.

thomasp
29 Aug 2008, 17:59
Maybe they can't do that?
Yes we can, and we don't want to.

Shadowmoon
29 Aug 2008, 18:17
Err, you're wrong actually :p

Oh, ok.

:(

franpa
30 Aug 2008, 04:04
LMAO, yea I thought I had mistaken what happened ^_^ thanks for clarifying.

WormGod
30 Aug 2008, 16:16
Yes we can, and we don't want to.

:eek:

A double-post by a MODERATOR?!?

thomasp
30 Aug 2008, 17:43
:eek:

A double-post by a MODERATOR?!?
*Bans wormgod for backseat moderating a moderator*

:p

WormGod
30 Aug 2008, 18:23
Oh, yeah - whoops.





I should have reported you instead, shouldn't I? :rolleyes:

TeDdywoRm
30 Aug 2008, 21:33
Oh, yeah - whoops.





I should have reported you instead, shouldn't I? :rolleyes:
Oh god, the irony..:p

bonz
30 Aug 2008, 22:13
A double-post by a MODERATOR?!?
*Bans wormgod for backseat moderating a moderator*
I should have reported you instead, shouldn't I?
Brilliant! :D