Signups are closed, the game has started. Rules are similar to last round (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=660767&postcount=1) but with some tweaks and a few more special roles.

Special roles:


Priest - knows the count of special roles still alive.
Guardian Angel - can choose one other player to protect from wolf kills every night
Seer - can find the true role of one other player every night


All players appear to be entirely human and vote in the lynching.

Changes in rules and roles:

I'll end the day at 2100 GMT, and start the next day at about 0700 GMT as promptly as I can (that's 10pm and 8am BST). I will also only return PMs to the seer in the morning.

I like the talking moderator idea - so I will publicly announce in the morning what role (but not which player) the Seer uncovered.

Unless anyone has any major objections, I think we have enough room for another special role: someone who will be PMed every morning with the number of specials (not including themselves) still alive. Specials include the wolves, Seer and GA.

I'd like to enforce the no talking after dieing rule a bit more. One last in-character last words post only. Please, no last advice and no interfering with the game. I know it's a bit dull to die off early, but it can spoil things for either the plotting wolves or humans to have their plans spoiled by someone they've already killed saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Sometimes people get killed off precisely because they seem like they've worked out who the wolves might be, or know too much.


Players: (15)

Alien King - killed N4
Bonz
GrimOswald
M3ntal
MtlAngelus - lynched D4
Paul.Power - killed N1
philby4000
pickleworm
Plasma
robowurmz
Shadowmoon - lynched D2
ShadowLord
super_frea - lynched D3
SupSuper - killed N2
yauhui


It is currently Day 5

I'm in

A role that can either discern the identity of the dead, or even just the number of remaining werewolves in the game could be interesting. But then the wolves would need a buff otherwise they'll lose repeatedly.

Perhaps you could add a Vigilante role. Every night, they kill someone of their choosing. This would probably lead to a lot of human deaths. I'm not sure if it should be a human or wolf role though.

The wolves already can kill one person of their liking, so that might not work so well. Maybe Lovers, or similar? Make two humans linked, so that if one dies, the other dies too.

How about a role which can only see the number of special roles? Eg wolves + Seer + Ga. They'd only get their PM after the next day starts, so they wouldn't be able to tell if it was a special killed during the night, or a wolf or special lynched.

Hmm, mabye.
Just had a thought, if the vigilante was on his own, not part of the human or wolf team, that way wolves and humans would get killed (mainly humans). Of course he'd be consigned to failure, as the odds of him winning would be small.
And of course, the humans would not know who was killed by who.

Lovers may work. It would be interesting if one of the lovers was a werewolf.

As a simple-minded peasant all these roles frighten me. Basically because they all feel gimmicky and crap and dont add anything to the game. I DO think the identities of the deceased should be revealed though

Hey look! Plasma bleeds blue! I wonder what that could mean! :rolleyes:

Yes, werewolves bleed blue

Nah, I think it's more interesting if they're not revealed. Or at least, only revealed to a single person.

You're right though, all these extra roles do feel gimmicky. It would be silly to add them in a game with so few people. It may make more sense in a game with about 20 people in.
The majority of players should be normal, boring humans.

I just realised Im going to Italy tomorrow for a week :p At this point I should do the decent thing and pull out, but instead Ill leave a list of people to lynch/maul in order to last until I die or the game ends :p Just dont make me seer/GA

There's really not too much fun in doing that, though. The whole is to adapt to fit the new situation each day :p

I think I'll join in this time round

Agreed, adding more special roles would be a bad idea. And giving away if the person that died was a wolf or not just spoils the fun, as there's no need to think back about whether mabye you made the wrong choice, and mabye those lynchers were actually the wolves.
Well, mabye just one person should be able to know, or something like that.

Just to give the wolves a bit of an edge though, try to make 4 people be wolves, depending on numbers of course.

I thought about that, but the problem is, unless the humans get their act together very quickly, they are unlikely to lynch wolves on the first few days. Then if there are too many wolves, they get a majority pretty quickly.

I'm in again

Whatever dude! I'll sign up here too! Sheesh! :p

I say keep the roles secret after death, but add the new role "gravedigger", who upon death will see the role (probably reduced to human/werewolf only, not the special humans).
Secret roles will compensate a bit for the advantage of PMs that both sides have.

Check out the special roles form the daVinci edition:
(I really want to have the medium, the possessed, the notary, the werehamster and the mythomaniac, not all of them if we don't get enough players that is.)

- Medium : he is a Human who can talk with the dead. At the beginning
of the night (starting from the second one), the Moderator calls his phase,
and shows him thumbs-up, if the last player lynched was a Werewolf,
thumbs-down if not.

- Possessed : he is a Human, but he sides with the Werewolves...
without knowing who they are! Therefore he wins if the Werewolves win.

- Bodyguard : he is a Human who protects a player of his choice,
each night. At night (starting with the second one), before the
Werewolves' phase, the Moderator calls the Bodyguard phase: the
Bodyguard points at another player. If the Werewolves choose that
player as the victim, he does not die, and nobody is killed.

- Owl : The Owl* is a Human (!) with a special ability. During each
night, the moderator calls the phase of the Owl, who chooses a person.
During the day, play proceeds as normal until the voting for the two
nominees. Once all players have voted, the moderator announces the
name of the person chosen by the Owl, who automatically becomes
the second nominee for lynching, ahead of the others. If the person
chosen by the Owl was one of the two nominees, then the preference
of the Owl does not change anything.
(*translator's note: “Gufo” (Owl) in Italian is also a person who brings
bad luck there are untranslatable puns throughout).

- Freemasons : they are two Humans who know each other's role.
During the first night, the Moderator calls their phase: the Freemasons
open their eyes and recognize each other. The Freemasons must be
added as a pair to the deck, not singularly.

- The Notary : The Notary is a human with a special ability: he collects the dead characters' will.
Each eliminated player (either slaughtered or lynched) writes on a piece of paper his testament, e.g. "try to remember who I was accusing for many turns in a row!" or "Jack is not a werewolf!" Testaments are set aside, and kept secret until the Notary dies.
When the Notary dies, he must reveal his role, and will read aloud all the testaments.
Tip: obviously, innocent villagers' testaments will possibly contain important information, whereas the werewolves' ones could be wrong and deceptive.

- Werehamster : he plays on his own, and cannot be killed by
Werewolves (if Werewolves choose him as the victim, then nobody is
killed). With respect to the game end and to the Medium call, the
Werehamster is considered as a Human: if the Seer points at him
during the night, the Werehamster is killed, together with the player
chosen by the Werewolves. The Werehamster is the only winner if he
is still alive when the game ends.

- Mythomaniac : he plays, at the end of the second night, a special
phase: he has only one chance to point at another player still in play. If that
player is not a Werewolf or the Seer, then the Mythomaniac stays a
Human until the game ends. Otherwise, if that player is a Werewolf or the
Seer, he immediately takes on the same role of the appointed player. From
now on, the Mythomaniac opens his eyes at night when the moderator
calls the character whose ability he now matches; each decision is taken
together. The Seer sees the Mythomanic-werewolf as a Werewolf.

- El Diablo: he is a "tempter"... of his
own death! He plays for himself only, and
cannot be killed by the Werewolves (if he is
chosen during the night, then nobody dies).
El Diablo is seen as a Werewolf by the Seer.
He is the only winner if he manages to be
chosen by the Werewolves during the night
(but remember, he does not die!), and then
he is lynched before the end of the game.
If he is lynched before being chosen by the
Werewolves, he simply dies, and he is out of
the game.


Here are some more variants:

'Ghosts' variant
With this game variant, any player who has been slaughtered or
lynched becomes a “ghost”, and during the following days he may
vote for who has to be lynched. However, he may only vote to select
the nominees (he does not vote to elect the real lynching among
nominees). At night, ghosts close their eyes just like all the other
players: they do not have any special ability, regardless of the
character they were while alive. Remember that ghosts may not
comment or talk for the rest of the game!

The talking moderator. When the seer secretly points to a player at night, the moderator says out loud "Yes, that's a werewolf" or "No, that's not a werewolf." (Avoid "he" and "she"!) The other players still don't know who was pointing or who was pointed at, but they do know what the answer was. If it was "yes", the werewolves know the pressure is on... (Andrew Plotkin)

The mysterious set. The moderator takes the werewolves and the seer cards and set them aside. The moderator then takes as many villager cards as the number of players minus three, and adds to these cards all the special characters he wants. The moderator shuffles the deck, then discards face down a number of cards equal to the number of special character that have been added. Then, he takes the werewolves and the seer that have been set aside and adds them to the deck, completing it, and the game starts: players will not know if the medium or the bodyguard, etc. are actually playing!

Medium : he is a Human who can talk with the dead. At the beginning
of the night (starting from the second one), the Moderator calls his phase,
and shows him thumbs-up, if the last player lynched was a Werewolf,
thumbs-down if not.
I think roles should either be revealed on death or not, no need to create a new role to do the same
Possessed : he is a Human, but he sides with the Werewolves...
without knowing who they are! Therefore he wins if the Werewolves win.
Adds nothing
Bodyguard : he is a Human who protects a player of his choice,
each night. At night (starting with the second one), before the
Werewolves' phase, the Moderator calls the Bodyguard phase: the
Bodyguard points at another player. If the Werewolves choose that
player as the victim, he does not die, and nobody is killed.
Err.... Thats the GA right?
Owl : The Owl* is a Human (!) with a special ability. During eachnight, the moderator calls the phase of the Owl, who chooses a person.
During the day, play proceeds as normal until the voting for the two
nominees. Once all players have voted, the moderator announces the
name of the person chosen by the Owl, who automatically becomes
the second nominee for lynching, ahead of the others. If the person
chosen by the Owl was one of the two nominees, then the preference
of the Owl does not change anything.
(*translator's note: “Gufo” (Owl) in Italian is also a person who brings
bad luck there are untranslatable puns throughout).
We dont have two nominees... I dont think this role makes any sense under our rules
Freemasons : they are two Humans who know each other's role.
During the first night, the Moderator calls their phase: the Freemasons
open their eyes and recognize each other. The Freemasons must be
added as a pair to the deck, not singularly.
Eh? Like Lovers? Still dont see much point to it...
The Notary : The Notary is a human with a special ability: he collects the dead characters' will.
Each eliminated player (either slaughtered or lynched) writes on a piece of paper his testament, e.g. "try to remember who I was accusing for many turns in a row!" or "Jack is not a werewolf!" Testaments are set aside, and kept secret until the Notary dies.
When the Notary dies, he must reveal his role, and will read aloud all the testaments.
Tip: obviously, innocent villagers' testaments will possibly contain important information, whereas the werewolves' ones could be wrong and deceptive.
People are talking after death anyway so I wouldnt bother making this a role
Werehamster : he plays on his own, and cannot be killed by
Werewolves (if Werewolves choose him as the victim, then nobody is
killed). With respect to the game end and to the Medium call, the
Werehamster is considered as a Human: if the Seer points at him
during the night, the Werehamster is killed, together with the player
chosen by the Werewolves. The Werehamster is the only winner if he
is still alive when the game ends.
Lets keep gimmicky retarded crap to a minimum, eh?
Mythomaniac : he plays, at the end of the second night, a specialphase: he has only one chance to point at another player still in play. If that player is not a Werewolf or the Seer, then the Mythomaniac stays a
Human until the game ends. Otherwise, if that player is a Werewolf or the
Seer, he immediately takes on the same role of the appointed player. From
now on, the Mythomaniac opens his eyes at night when the moderator
calls the character whose ability he now matches; each decision is taken
together. The Seer sees the Mythomanic-werewolf as a Werewolf.
Just a player who is undecided at the start? Doesnt add much but randomises the carefully balanced teams as lovingly crafted by Bunsy :p
- El Diablo: he is a "tempter"... of his own death! He plays for himself only, and cannot be killed by the Werewolves (if he is
chosen during the night, then nobody dies). El Diablo is seen as a Werewolf by the Seer. He is the only winner if he manages to be chosen by the Werewolves during the night (but remember, he does not die!), and then
he is lynched before the end of the game. If he is lynched before being chosen by the Werewolves, he simply dies, and he is out of
the game.
Wtf... why?
'Ghosts' variant
With this game variant, any player who has been slaughtered or
lynched becomes a “ghost”, and during the following days he may
vote for who has to be lynched. However, he may only vote to select
the nominees (he does not vote to elect the real lynching among
nominees). At night, ghosts close their eyes just like all the other
players: they do not have any special ability, regardless of the
character they were while alive. Remember that ghosts may not
comment or talk for the rest of the game!
So they basically just keep voting even when they die? Takes some of the fun out of it for the wolves if kills have no affect...
The talking moderator. When the seer secretly points to a player at night, the moderator says out loud "Yes, that's a werewolf" or "No, that's not a werewolf." (Avoid "he" and "she"!) The other players still don't know who was pointing or who was pointed at, but they do know what the answer was. If it was "yes", the werewolves know the pressure is on...
I like this idea actually... at the moment there is not much feedback so its too much like a random guessing game

And the last variant is just make everyone special I think... again thats gimmicky crap and we'll have none of that in our village thank you very much!

EDIT: I probably could have shortened those quotes :p

Woop woop woop

My suggestion would be to either keep day/nights more consistent or at least PM us when it changes, I'm not checking the thread every hour because people might speed up voting. :p

And probably enforce no-night-talking/no-dead-talking better, that was pretty crazy.

Agreed, I'll try and stick with more regular times. Probably 10pm end of day and 8am beginning of day (BST).

Whatever dude! I'll sign up here too! Sheesh! :p
:)
I say keep the roles secret after death, but add the new role "gravedigger", who upon death will see the role (probably reduced to human/werewolf only, not the special humans).
Secret roles will compensate a bit for the advantage of PMs that both sides have.

The talking moderator. When the seer secretly points to a player at night, the moderator says out loud "Yes, that's a werewolf" or "No, that's not a werewolf." (Avoid "he" and "she"!) The other players still don't know who was pointing or who was pointed at, but they do know what the answer was. If it was "yes", the werewolves know the pressure is on... (Andrew Plotkin)
I'm still not sure between a player which knows the role of the deceased, and a player which simply knows the count of specials.

I do like the talking moderator though, I could simply announce in the morning what role the Seer had found.

Eh? Like Lovers? Still dont see much point to it...Not quite, when one lover dies, so does the other, but the masons are simply two humans who know who each other are.
People are talking after death anyway so I wouldnt bother making this a roleI might try and more strictly enforce the no-talking after death rule. As much as it's entertaining, it means that the dead are still influencing the view of those who are left alive. I think last words will have to be purely in-character, as it were.

The idea of the Masons is one I don't like. It just speeds up a network forming between humans. It's an advantage they don't need.
The idea of Lovers is interesting though, as it's almost a handicap for the human team. Lovers know who they are, but it could be fun if one of them was possibly a wolf.
That is, the lovers know who they are, but don't know their alignment.

Imma Joining In

I am terrible at understanding things and will no doubt mess up and make a right fool of myself, but go on, throw me in too. The first one was fun to watch. :)

Bring it on.

Let's Rock and Roll. :cool:





That means, me too.

Sure,why not.

I'm interested.

However, the rules confuse me, so I'll sit this one out and observe.

The rules aren't that confusing. Most probably, you'll just be a human who just votes in the lynching.

I'm in. Also, i vote to keep the roles the same as the last game, but i do like the talking moderator idea.

I'm interested.

However, the rules confuse me, so I'll sit this one out and observe.
The rules are the easy part, really, just have a flick through the first few pages of last game. The hard part is winning :)

but i do like the talking moderator idea.So do I, so that's definitely in. I'll wait and see how many people we get before deciding about more special roles.

So do I, so that's definitely in. I'll wait and see how many people we get before deciding about more special roles.
I think that would be the best, as I doubt that we'll be many more players than last time to justify any additional special roles.

Also, we should just test the 'talking moderator' rule.
It could turn out that it doesn't really add more in a version played with PMs.

I'm in !

i'll join the party!

We have now got 20 people playing! Hoo-rah!

Also, at night i usually come of the PC about 22:00

If you end up as anything which needs to send a PM, just make sure you send it before you sign off, then.

We have now got 20 people playing! Hoo-rah!

We do? I've only counted 15.

As to rules and roles:

I'll end the day at 2100 GMT, and start the next day at about 0700 GMT as promptly as I can (that's 10pm and 8am BST). I will also only return PMs to the seer in the morning.

I like the talking moderator idea - so I will publicly announce in the morning what role the Seer uncovered.

Unless anyone has any major objections, I think we have enough room for another special role: someone who will be PMed every morning with the number of specials (not including themselves) still alive. Specials include the wolves, Seer and GA.

I'd like to enforce the no talking after dieing rule a bit more. One last in-character last words post only. Please, no last advice and no interfering with the game. I know it's a bit dull to die off early, but it can spoil things for either the plotting wolves or humans to have their plans spoiled by someone they've already killed saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Sometimes people get killed off precisely because they seem like they've worked out who the wolves might be, or know too much.


I'll work out all the roles tonight, and Day 1 will start tomorrow morning, providing no-one has any objections to the proposed rules.

Okay, i won't talk.

Plasma will be most likely to break that rule:p

We do? I've only counted 15.
Whoops, made a mistake. When I read your list earlier, I didn't notice that it was in alphabetical order and thought SupSuper was the last name you put on the list.

We have now got 20 people playing! Hoo-rah!

Hmm. Why did you miscount? Are you trying to hid the fact that you're a werewolf?

Hmm. Why did you miscount? Are you trying to hid the fact that you're a werewolf?
Quite obviously indeed.
...
Lynch Plasma!

Oh right, game hasn't started yet... sorry.

Ah!
We have our first werewolf yet?
Lynch Plasma! :D

Seriously, are we gonna use the "lynch game master during first day" tradition?

Seriously, are we gonna use the "lynch game master during first day" tradition?
I say that, for the first day, we can, but don't have to.

I say that, for the first day, we can, but don't have to.
Yeah, let's just lynch Plasma instead.

Seventeenlington was a small village in the province of Forumsville. The villagers were quiet bunch and, while friendly to outsiders, generally prefered to be left alone.

One morning the villagers woke up and found a note, it was on the ground. It was .. somewhat ominous. It read: "We are the Islington Werewolves, we have bitten, in secret, several of your villagers. We intend to take over you village and claim it as a haven for ourselves, but to be sporting we have given you a chance and announced our arrival."

Quickly a meeting was organised between the villagers. It was decided that they would attempt to rid themselves of this threat by lynching anyone they suspected of being a werewolf, a foolproof plan!

PMs with you role have been sent out.

Day 1 has started! Apparently there's a tradition to vote for me to be lynched, rather than anyone who is playing. I'm not going to enforce that, but I do recommend against blindly lynching anyone.

I'll vote Bunsy for know, unless anyone does anything stupid again.

Yeah, i'll jump on the MrBunsy wagon also, given we don't have a clue who is who yet.

Yes, let's lynch MrBunsy. Him and his damn...Bunsyness.

Die MrBunsy!
You demonic, evil werewolf that sneaks into my dreams and tells me messages of who I am!

I vote for MrBunsy, since everyone else does. :p

I vote we lynch Plasma!

I'll jump on the MrBunsy bandwagon.

Sorry, Bunsy, be we just can't have an Omniscient Game Master hanging around. Haha, hanging around, something you'll be doing, eh?

Bunsy must die for the good of the village.

Lynch robowurmz. I smell fish in his post.

*re-reads previous posts*

M3ntal's post sounds mysterious too.

Bunsy must die for the good of the village.

Bold your post, or any part of it which indicates your intent, when voting to lynch a person.

MrBunsy is clearly a werewolf. Or at least, a wereBunsy.

I vote for Plasma because voting for yourself is awfully suspicious.

I vote to lynch Mr Bunsy, because I get to keep some tools I borrowed from him a while back. :cool:

M3ntal's post sounds mysterious too.

And so it begins. The only people who have any clue so far are the werewolves, as they know who each other are, hence who the humans are. Pointing fingers at this stage of the game can only be either random guess, or werewolf trying to get a human killed.

I urge all humans to look back at my post, realise it is not in the slightest bit "mysterious", and see this as the weak excuse it is to vote for a human.

I change my vote to yauhui, he just revealed himself. I'm not editing my original post, as i've just urged people to look back at it, and editing it now would look dodgy.

And so it begins. The only people who have any clue so far are the werewolves, as they know who each other are, hence who the humans are. Pointing fingers at this stage of the game can only be either random guess, or werewolf trying to get a human killed.

I urge all humans to look back at my post, realise it is not in the slightest bit "mysterious", and see this as the weak excuse it is to vote for a human.

I change my vote to yauhui, he just revealed himself. I'm not editing my original post, as i've just urged people to look back at it, and editing it now would look dodgy.

I find your defensive attitude even more suspicious.

Over the course of the day a few accusations were made, but the majority of the villagers wanted to lynch MrBunsy, a known werewolf sympathiser. Night fell, the villagers went to bed, and MrBunsy swung gently in the breeze.

Day 1 is over. MrBunsy has been lynched.

PMs from all you folk who work at night, please.

I'm still waiting for a PM, I'll start the day when I get it.

If they don't send the PM, does no-one die?

I was planning just to wait for a while to see if they would send the PM, as it happens they have.

Twas on a Monday morning the gas man came to call. The villagers awoke and ventured outside to find one of those metal food containers they'd seen in the posh restaurants in the city. Curious, they picked up the lid to look inside. Oh dear, the head of Paul.Power was resting on a plate, not a particularly tasty dish.

Night 1 is over, Paul.Power has been killed and the Seer has found a Human.

Day 2 starts henceforth.

Got him, it was shadowmoon. There was only myself, MrBunsy, and him from this game online. Plasma showed up about 8:50 though.

Edit: Also, shadowmoon was viewing a user profile just when MrBunsy received the PM.

Therefore, i vote shadowmoon for the lynching, as i'm more certain of him than yauhui.

Edit: Actually, I'm voting M3ntal. Firstly because he's been too over-defensive in that big post a while back, and secondly because, being a Werewolf last round, I know well that Bunsy prefers to wait a bit between getting the PM and posting the night results, so that this kind of thing doesn't happen.

Edit: Changed to Shadowmoon.

Isn't that sorta cheating?
Screenshots aren't infallible, so I don't see why not.

Edit: Actually, I'm voting M3ntal. Firstly because he's been too over-defensive in that big post a while back, and secondly because, being a Werewolf last round, I know well that Bunsy prefers to wait a bit between getting the PM and posting the night results, so that this kind of thing doesn't happen.He was sat there waiting for the PM though, wanting to start the next day. I spotted him waiting, and decided to also wait and catch them in the act. Look at it this way, i saw you come online and do a forum search for something or other while i was waiting as well. Why would i have bothered to check what you were up to?

i'm going to vote M3ntal seen as though i was viewing Mr Bunsy's profile and not his.

i'm going to vote M3ntal seen as though i was viewing Mr Bunsy's profile and not his.
Perhaps you were looking at bunsy's profile to find the "pm this user" link?

Great, now I know how Pickleworm felt :p.

If it's any consolation to the remaining humans, I wasn't the Seer or the GA or anything like that, just an ordinary human.

Aw man, I was hoping you were a werewolf.


And had very stupid teammates.

i'm going to vote M3ntal seen as though i was viewing Mr Bunsy's profile and not his.Exactly! So you could PM him with Paul.Power's name, that was why i mentioned it in the first place. Come on guys, he's even admitted he was viewing MrBunsy's profile now. Why would he be viewing it if not to find the PM link? This is so blatent it's untrue.

Plasma, are you seriously not changing your vote?

Exactly! So you could PM him with Paul.Power's name, that was why i mentioned it in the first place. Come on guys, he's even admitted he was viewing MrBunsy's profile now. Why would he be viewing it if not to find the PM link? This is so blatent it's untrue.

Plasma, are you seriously not changing your vote?

That doesn't make you any less of a werewolf. Maybe you want to get rid of Shadowmoon from your team (like, who wouldn't? :rolleyes: :p) while at the same time making yourself seem like a regular human...

Anyway, can't we cut a deal with one of them werewolfs? Like, we offer him inmunity and a live-long suply of our livestock to feed in and perhaps our elderly and/or sick every now and then if he tells us who his teammates are?

Exactly! So you could PM him with Paul.Power's name, that was why i mentioned it in the first place. Come on guys, he's even admitted he was viewing MrBunsy's profile now. Why would he be viewing it if not to find the PM link? This is so blatent it's untrue.

Plasma, are you seriously not changing your vote?

No, i was seeing if he was still replying to this thread.

Your pic was at 9: 06, Bunsy posted a reply 09: 08.

No, i was seeing if he was still replying to this thread.

Your pic was at 9: 06, Bunsy posted a reply 09: 08.
You are a werewolf.
That doesn't make you any less of a werewolf. Maybe you want to get rid of Shadowmoon from your team (like, who wouldn't? :rolleyes: :p) while at the same time making yourself seem like a regular human...
I am not a werewolf.

I'm voting Shadowmoon.

Shadowmoon is totally a wolf's name. Lynch him! :cool:

You are a werewolf.

No, i believe infact, that you are.

You won't be spying on me again, thats for sure.

I'm not a wolf, honest! i'm innocent!

While I think it's a bit weird that the verdict was posted virtually immediately after the PM was supposedly sent, I can't think of any other reason to look at MrBunsy's profile and apparently neither can shadowmoon, so lynch shadowmoon.

While I think it's a bit weird that the verdict was posted virtually immediately after the PM was supposedly sent, I can't think of any other reason to look at MrBunsy's profile and apparently neither can shadowmoon, so lynch shadowmoon.

Ah, but does he have proof that the PM was sent at that time, or could he just be saying someone else is a wolf to protect himself?

Did Bunsy actually say he was waiting for a wolf's PM?

then again, Shadowmoon's acting pretty suspicious.

Shadowmoon has become very pathetically defensive.
Kill him.

Actually, i switch my vote to Plasma I suspect him so much.

Shadowmoon has become very pathetically defensive. Kill him.

How friendly.....

Shadowmoon.

That just made my vote a whole lot easier.

Shadowmoon.

That just made my vote a whole lot easier.

Bit suspicious how you turned your vote to me.... when i changed to yours.

Plasma over here is a wolf for sure.

Bit suspicious how you turned your vote to me.... when i changed to yours.
What? All I know is that you want me dead! Since when was that not a good reason for lynching someone?

6 people still haven't voted, but I doubt it will make that much difference today.

Various theories were proposed and argued all day, and it was decided that Shadowmoon must be lynched. The villagers thought that roasting would be a fitting way to go, promptly set fire to him, and then went to bed.

I'm running out of little story ideas :P

Day 2 is over. Shadowmoon has been lynched.

Night 2 has begun! PMs please, promptly if you wish to avoid the eager eyes of M3ntal :p

Well, since Paul.Power revealed who he was, i will too.....

A regular human.

So much for following the don't say anything game-related-after-dieing rule :p

...zzzzZZZzzz.... ....zzzZZZzzz...
*fart*
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...zzzzZZZzzz...........

Didn't Paul.Power say something after he died tho?

(last post now, seriously)

i'll go to heaven now.

*flies to heaven*

RIP Shadowmoon, brave, tough and handsome warrior roasted to death.

So much for following the don't say anything game-related-after-dieing rule :p
Wasn't there a final-speech rule?

Yeah, but you aren't meant to reveal anything game-related. The idea was just for a bit of in-character fun.

Yeah, but you aren't meant to reveal anything game-related. The idea was just for a bit of in-character fun.
What, and you expect people to say they're not a regular human when they die? C'mon, nobody's going to actually take anyone's final word as golden anymore than they would if they said it while alive.

What, and you expect people to say they're not a regular human when they die? C'mon, nobody's going to actually take anyone's final word as golden anymore than they would if they said it while alive.

Well, true, but I'd still rather people didn't. I don't want anyone to reveal anything which could break someone's carefully engineered plan.

6 people still haven't voted, but I doubt it will make that much difference today.

Various theories were proposed and argued all day, and it was decided that Shadowmoon must be lynched. The villagers thought that roasting would be a fitting way to go, promptly set fire to him, and then went to bed.

I'm running out of little story ideas :P

Day 2 is over. Shadowmoon has been lynched.

Night 2 has begun! PMs please, promptly if you wish to avoid the eager eyes of M3ntal :p

Are phantom votes still in effect, or were there so many people not voting that we're bucking the rule? If everyone has a phantom vote it hardly matters anymore I guess :p

Are phantom votes still in effect, or were there so many people not voting that we're bucking the rule? If everyone has a phantom vote it hardly matters anymore I guess :p

I was going to skip them for today, but I'll bring them in from tomorrow when the voting starts becoming that bit more crucial.

I had decided to save my vote for later, but when I came back the day was already over. :P

Well if you're gonna get fussy nights are also supposed to be quiet. Lynch MrBunsy for breaking his rules! :p

The day will be starting shortly, honest!

I'm off to work soon, so hurry up. I should be back at around 20 GMT, but sometimes I have to stay late without previous warning so I would rather cast my vote before I leave. :P

I think I'll just have to start, then.

After a long lie in, everyone emerged from their houses to find the crumpled remains of SupSuper on the ground below his balcony. Suspicious. Clearly there were still wolves about.

Night 2 is over. SupSuper has been killed.

The Seer has also found the Priest.

Day 3 commences.

All righty then. I'm going to vote we lynch super_frea, because of his very suspicious absence.

Lynch SFrea because of his prolonged abscence.

Lynch Super_frea!

Didn't Paul.Power say something after he died tho?Bit of a difference though.

I said I was human after I was killed by the werewolves. I didn't want my human allies to start worrying that they'd already lost the Seer, GA or Priest. The only way I could have been a werewolf is if the werewolves were very stupid.

But you said you were human after being lynched by the humans. So there's no real reason to say it other than either "well, our team sucks" or "haha I'm a werewolf faking it".

no difference at all. human team is meant to play "uninformed". they shouldn't know if they lost a priest, seer, etc. you are providing that information.

there are variations where the alignment, or even class, is revealed after death. however that is a further handicap to the werewolf side. if the game is balanced from start to have identities hidden through to the end, revealing identities shifts balance, and makes the game unfair to one side.

now, it is true that the dead person might still lie. but that's not the design of the game. this is a game of bluff and misinformation. part of this game is silencing these who are making things difficult for you. werewolves can silence a particularly vocal player to be able to influence the crowd more during lynching votes. they do so by killing that player. so once again, dead people being quiet becomes matter of the game's balance. if you start talking about the game while dead, you effect the outcome, therefore making it unfair for the side that killed you to keep you quiet.

so, anyways, if you want the game to be interesting, you should not make any game-state-related statements after your death. or if you are not playing for that matter. "final words" are meant to be a gimmick that doesn't affect the game flow.

Yeah, lynch Super_frea. Him and his not-here-ness.

And yeah guys, dead men don't tell tales, remember? :p

Before I die, I just wanna say a few words...

I was a werewolf. Honest!

Lynch Mtlangelus. :p

I have never seen the face of quakerworm in our village!
Where did he come from?

We should lynch him, because he, ehrm..., surely hasn't paid the road toll to enter.

I have never seen the face of quakerworm in our village!
Where did he come from?

We should lynch him, because he, ehrm..., surely hasn't paid the road toll to enter.
rubish! *turns into a bat and flies away*

Lynch Mtlangelus. :p
You only say that because I have been sleeping with your WIFE!
...
... come to think of that, we don't have females on this village?
What kind of sick village is this?! :eek:

You only say that because I have been sleeping with your WIFE!
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... come to think of that, we don't have females on this village?
What kind of sick village is this?! :eek:

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Good god! Why did you have to bring that to our attention!

Lynch MtlAngelus for raising such a disturbing point.

I'm sure there could be an interesting setting based around that idea :p

Only half the people alive have voted, meaning that the vote could easily swing either way, which makes me unwilling to end the day yet. This one might have to run into tomorrow.

MtlAngelus. Purely for questioning my hypothetical sexuality.
And also because, despite that SuperFrea hasn't been online for some time, Bunsy hasn't mentioned any sort of lack of PMs other than that delayed one.

MtlAngelus. Purely for questioning my hypothetical sexuality.
And also because, despite that SuperFrea hasn't been online for some time, Bunsy hasn't mentioned any sort of lack of PMs other than that delayed one.

That is an interesting point actually. But I suppose the wolves would just start excluding him from their discussions for being afk, so it does not really prove anything. :p (Well, I suppose it proves he's probably not the seer).

And man, people really need to not sign up if they're not going to do anything. :( Super_frea hasn't voted once, and yauhui and ShadowLord only once.

Mm. I'm going to leave day 3 running till the usual time in the hope that everyone might pop up, otherwise we might have to think again about what to do next.

I'll vote MtlAngelus, Super_frea not being around means that even if he is a wolf he's no threat at the moment.

First vote: M3ntal.

Second vote (2nd option, just in case anything happens, e.g. tie, etc): robowurmz

I'm sticking with my conclusion.

Also: I'm down with a fever and a hacking cough, so I'm only allowed to the computer when my parents aren't busy and can accompany me to watch me, and ensure I dont sleep late and such.

I've got more homework these days too.

I'll vote MtlAngelus, Super_frea not being around means that even if he is a wolf he's no threat at the moment.
I was in a rush to vote and didn't have much reason to suspect anyone, so I chose a pety reason. In any case, I am increasingly suspecting you of being a wolf. I'm not changing my vote tho because that would lower sfrea's votes and would make me candidate for lynching. :p

It's a tie between MtlAngelus and super_frea. Both have only 1 phantom votes, but MtlAngelus only didn't vote yesterday through mis-timing, and also voted on day 1, so I'm going to have super_frea lynched. If ShadowLord doesn't vote tomorrow I'll get him replaced by someone else.

It was a long day of arguing and ideas and eventually a tie was reached. The villagers, however, didn't want to lynch two of their number at once, so plumbed for super_frea.

Day 3 is over. super_frea has been lynched.

Night 3 begins, PMs please!

I can't start the day without all the PMs, guys. Well, I can, but that skews game balance somewhat.

Another long lie in, but eventually the villagers did arise. A quick head count revealed that everyone was still alive! But before they could start rejoicing a note was found by the pump, "Not for want of trying, damn you Guardian Angel!".

Night 3 is over. The GA made a save, well done! The seer didn't see anything because they didn't PM me :p If they wish to do so this morning, they may still see something.

It is now Day 4. Sorry for all the late days and nights, hopefully we can stick to a timetable from now on.

Can't decide who I should vote for. :p

He he, ShadowLord because he can't decide :P

Can't decide who I should vote for. :p

Oh, look who finally decided to show up. :p

So wait, we don't get to know who the target was huh? Does the TARGET know who the target was?

So wait, we don't get to know who the target was huh? Does the TARGET know who the target was?

Nope. Only the wolves and the GA will know.

This time around I will vote to lynch M3ntal, because he has a rather suspicious attitude.

Lynch Mtlangelus.

Lynch Mtlangelus.

Lynch Angelus

That's right. Dance to my will.

*dissapears into the night*

Heh, which shan't be for a little while longer yet, probably tomorrow again. There are still 6 people left to vote.

Lynch Mtlangelus.

Evil wolves. :mad:
edit:
You know, the odds that one of the 4 people that have voted for me is a wolf is pretty high, it's almost certain that at least one if them is a wolf. And a wolf wouldn't vote to lynch one of their kin, so I'm obviously not a wolf.
Also notice how M3ntal, AK and Philby have coincidentally voted for the same people since day 1. I find that really suspicious.

That, and the wolves must be active people. Why would a wolf conspire to kill someone but avoid participating on lynch-voting during the day, risking himself a phantom vote? Clearly if the user is inactive during the day it's most likely he is also inactive during the night... yet wolves are killing people.

I just leave this to the consideration of the rest of the village before they choose to vote. If they do get around to vote, that is. There's a lot of apparently inactive members in this community...

Also notice how M3ntal, AK and Philby have coincidentally voted for the same people since
Not really when you consider every lynching has been a landslide.

Not really when you consider every lynching has been a landslide.

The first day (bunsy) doesn't count, the second day it was indeed a landslide against Shadowmoon, but the third day wasn't a landslide, it ended in a tie. I still consider it notably strange that you three have voted for the same people all current 4 days.

Lynch MtlAngelus. He seems to know an awful lot about the wolves for supposedly not being one of them. :mad:

Lynch MtlAngelus. He seems to know an awful lot about the wolves for supposedly not being one of them. :mad:
Fine. Choose your own doom. Yes, even if you're a wolf... you're keeping a gay village. :p

Fine. Choose your own doom. Yes, even if you're a wolf... you're keeping a gay village. :p

What's wrong with that.

Lynch MtlAngelus for intolerance of the village.:mad:

Fine! Lynch me! But I'll never tell you where I buried the money!!

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH!!!!

you should put him in a room with a moose.

you should put him in a room with a moose.

Come the end of the day, consider it done :p

Due to a mix up with the PMs, turns out the Seer had asked to see someone, and they spotted a human last night.

Sorry for not participating in the recent lynchings, but my son was born 2 nights ago.
I'm taking my laptop to the sanatorium and will have internet connection then.

I'm talking of a real son and real nights, not these strangely extended nights in this godforsaken, werewolf-ridden village.
you're keeping a gay village. :p
Yes, and we, the village people, are proud of it. :D

Congrats bonz.

Also, do i get to be the red-indian guy?

What's your son's name, bonz?

What's your son's name, bonz?
Noah .

Noah .

It's a good name. I knew a guy called Noah once.

Congratulations, bonz! :)

Oh wow, congratulations! Even though I shouldn't be posting here, since I'm not even playing :p

Wow, congratulations bonz. :)

Oh wow, congratulations! Even though I shouldn't be posting here, since I'm not even playing :p

I think we should lynch Metal Alex now. :p

(Or maybe bonz for that horrible pun)

Congrats!

Bonz has a somewhat better excuse than me for not being about last night, but I didn't end the day, so that'll happen this evening instead.

M3ntal.

Don't any of you guys do some strategic planning?!

I think we should lynch Metal Alex now.
Yes!
We don't like strangers in our village.
(Or maybe bonz for that horrible pun)
How cruel!

Lynch M3ntal!

After what seemed like a very long day the villagers decided that MtlAngelus was clearly the person they needed to get rid of. So, they put him in a small room with a moose. He didn't last long.

Day 4 is over, MtlAngelus has been lynched.

Night 4 starts! PMs please :).

Before Angelus was shoved in the room, however, he spouted his last words:
"Fine, kill me. I'll die a martyr if I have to. But before I die, I want to tell you all something important... something that will change your perception of the village... I know who the wolves are. Not only do I know, but I have conclusive evidence. After I tell you this, I am confident all wolves will be slain. All the secrets will be known. The wolves are...
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Were no strangers to love, You know the rules and so do I.
A full commitments what Im thinking of... You wouldnt get this from any other guy!
I... just wanna tell you how Im feeling... Gotta make you understand.
Never gonna give you up! Never gonna let you down! Never gonna run around and desert you!
Never gonna make you cry! Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you!

Haha, you've been Rickrolled. :cool:"

And thus, Angelus was shoved in the room with a moose...

and the villagers went to sleep satisfied by the thought that even if you weren't a wolf, you deserved that moosey fate for the rick roll.

Alien King was found under the remains of a grand piano in the middle of the street. Apparently it had been dropped on him from a height; considering the lack of tall buildings, cranes and pianos in the village, this was very suspicious.

Night 4 is over, Alien King was killed!

Day 5 begins. The Seer has found a wolf.

Oh bugger!

I don't know.

I'm receiving all this crazy PMs lately, that I'm confused and I don't know who's who now.

Haha, you've been Rickrolled. :cool:"
:p

On account of no votes today I'll leave day 5 running a tad longer.

Ok, I've been in this village long enough to see everyone's going nuts D: *flee*

I could join the next one, though, if I wasn't going to be busy...

Woah, I'm still alive? Radical. Lynch ShadowLord because he stole my good rooster and a bushel of hay.

I'm hesitant.

Am I the last human?

Will I accidentally kill my teammate?

yauhui has just convinced me he is a werewolf. Lynch him.

I've just decided.

GrimOswald it will be.

EDIT: Bunsy, when this round ends, and once you posted a new round (i.e. round 3), can you post a link to it in the last post of this thread?

Because, I introduced this game to some of my friends via my blog, and said they could register to play here if they liked. Since they aren't really used to the numerous categories in this forum, they might get lost. So by linking them to the new round, they can keep track of the new round.

:)

EDIT: Bunsy, when this round ends, and once you posted a new round (i.e. round 3), can you post a link to it in the last post of this thread?

Because, I introduced this game to some of my friends via my blog, and said they could register to play here if they liked. Since they aren't really used to the numerous categories in this forum, they might get lost. So by linking them to the new round, they can keep track of the new round.
Certainly easy enough to do, although I probably won't be able to host another one for a few weeks. After the A-level results (14th) I'm off on holiday for a while and won't have any internet access. So we can either wait till then, or hand the reigns over to someone else for a few rounds, I don't mind.

Still plenty of life left in this game yet, though :)

Certainly easy enough to do, although I probably won't be able to host another one for a few weeks. After the A-level results (14th) I'm off on holiday for a while and won't have any internet access. So we can either wait till then, or hand the reigns over to someone else for a few rounds, I don't mind.

Still plenty of life left in this game yet, though :)

I would be cool with taking over it for a bit if people do not mind. :) (And want another round, of course)

And what is with the whole "Tonnes of people have not voted" thing? >_>

Lynch ShadowLord!

I would be cool with taking over it for a bit if people do not mind. :) (And want another round, of course)
That's fine with me.
And what is with the whole "Tonnes of people have not voted" thing? >_>
Dunno, but it looks like another extension to the day is due. Shadowlord has by far the most votes with 2 real votes and 6 thousand phantom votes, but if everyone else votes that can change.

I'll vote Shadowlord then, just because.

Shadowlord. Bandwagon, yeah!

And what is with the whole "Tonnes of people have not voted" thing? >_>
Myself, I've been on holiday in Canada, with Kelster. So I just haven't had the time recently.

Myself, I've been on holiday in Canada, with Kelster. So I just haven't had the time recently.

Sounds like you're being a bit of a wolf yourself ;) *slaps you on the back* you're growin' up, kiddo! :cool:

Myself, I've been on holiday in Canada, with Kelster. So I just haven't had the time recently.
Hah!
You clearly are a werewolf visiting the Bigfoot in Canada for a conspirative meeting.

Meh. :p

Lynch bonz.

It was another long day of, well, not very much really. But shadowlord seemed to have attracted the attention of the majority of the villagers. They dragged him off, ready to get rid of him, when suddenly Bonz, GrimOswald, philby and pickleworm leapt out of nowhere, grew claws and tore pore ol' shadowlord to pieces. "You fools! You've been lynching each other the entire week! The reign of the wolves has begun!".

Well then, Shadowlord it is. To your peril :p

There are only eight players left, and 4 of them are wolves, therefore wolves win.

Very well played by the wolves, who diverted votes away from themselves remarkably well. There were quite a sizeable group of humans working together, but you didn't really appear to co-ordinate. So, yeah. I've not really seen a game go quite like this before. I hope you enjoyed it anyway.

Bonz, GrimOswald, Philby and Pickleworm were the wolves. M3ntal was the priest, Plasma was the Seer and Robowurmz was the GA. The night 3 save was robowurmz saving himself.

Oh, and the PM M3ntal saw Shadowmoon send? It wasn't to me :P I'd been waiting for Plasma to send me his Seer's PM.

Yeah, Plasma "saw" me the next night, and explained it was his PM you were waiting for. Apologies to Shadowmoon.

I think we benefited the most from the initial disputes among the humans. Accusations were flung against each other before the game has even started. :rolleyes:

Also, the phantom votes probably came in handy during the lynching nominations. :)

Interesting.
Congratulations you bloodthirsty hounds.

Our main strategy was mostly to kill of the players that didn't participate in the votings, didn't post at all or were not the target of others.

Also, we killed Paul.Power in the first night to shock the village somewhat, losing their best scientist that early.
He should have hurried up with the development of his anti-werewolf ointment. :rolleyes:

well played, guys. hopefully, i won't miss the start of the next one.

Yeah, we (the group who I found innocent) only realised that the quiet people were the wolves when it was too late.

*Shakes hands with fellow wolves* Well played guys.

As bonz said, our main strategy was killing off low-profile players (And Paul went first because he's my archenemy he's too smart to keep around). Alien King was actually killed for the dual reason of my suspicions that he was the seer, which turned out to be a load of bullocks. :p (I DID actually suspect Plasma as well, but I suspected AK more)

Honestly, it was bonz who ended up making most of the final decisions, with me over-thinking everything before that to help him decide. :p

By the way, the wolf we knew about via the seer was Philby.

And.. we didn't lynch him?

By the way, the wolf we knew about via the seer was Philby.

I'll vote Shadowlord then, just because.

Shadowlord. Bandwagon, yeah!

That, uh... that wasn't particularly smart of you guys.

Yeah, Plasma "saw" me the next night, and explained it was his PM you were waiting for. Apologies to Shadowmoon.

I was screwed when i got over-defensive anyway.

Now i understand this game a bit more i'll hopefully not make the same mistake.

:cool:

Now everyone's going to be so paranoid about the quiet ones next game :p

A great tip to avoid those useless accusations:
Switch to invisible mode in your User CP, so no one will see you sending PMs.

That, uh... that wasn't particularly smart of you guys.
By the time the Shadowlord landslide started, I knew that there'd be no way it would switch to Philby, but would make it all too obvious to the Wolves which guy's the Seer/with the Seer.

I love how I lasted 3 whole days even though my internet hasn't been working for a week and a half. Apologies about that. :cool:

Oh yes and my final words will be...
Pigeon paste.

I knew the wolves would win. :p

That, uh... that wasn't particularly smart of you guys.Of the 6 people Plasma and myself didn't know about, 2 were human and 4 were werewolves. Shadowlord already had 2 votes, and 1 each for GrimOswald and yauhui. We knew yauhui was human, so a guess between Shadowlord and GrimOswald was all we could do because if we both voted for anyone else Shadowlord would still have been lynched due to phantom votes. We were pretty much dead anyway so getting lucky on the 2/3 chance was our only hope of bringing it back.

Could someone explain phantom votes to me again?

Could someone explain phantom votes to me again?

The idea was that if you didn't vote for a lynching you'd have a phantom vote placed against you every lynching. Each phantom vote counts for half a normal vote, so it was meant to encourage everyone into voting every day.

You could still have all voted for philby though, it would have identified who you were to the wolves, but you would also outnumber them.

Next time, remove both phantom voting and end the days/nights on time. If a seer/GA doesn't vote, pick someone completely random, and lynch a random person even if nobody votes.

The idea was that if you didn't vote for a lynching you'd have a phantom vote placed against you every lynching. Each phantom vote counts for half a normal vote, so it was meant to encourage everyone into voting every day.

What.

*Reads the first post again*

Bah. :p

That's what I get for skimming through it I guess.

I love how I lasted 3 whole days even though my internet hasn't been working for a week and a half. Apologies about that. :cool:

Oh yes and my final words will be...
Pigeon paste.

Lynch Super_frea for not having his internet for a week and a half!:eek:

Lynch Shadowmoon for that horrible joke.

Oh wait.