Something I've been wondering.

It seems most people today download their music. This is either by buying it directly from iTunes or acquiring it Illegally. Am I the only one who still likes to actually have the album in some physical form that I can hold in my hand? I use to buy a new CD almost every other week. Most is my shelves are devoted to my CDs. I have lapsed slightly recently mainly because of lack of money but I still buy albums. It seems to me like I am pretty much the only person I know who does.

I don't usually buy CDs myself, but rather wait till my birthday/Christmas and pester someone else into buying them for me :p. But I do prefer CDs over downloads, legal or otherwise. I like to have music I'm able to rip/copy/etc at full quality, and whilst DRM free downloads are a step in that direction, I've yet to come across any lossless downloads.

Not overly fussed about the actual case though, just quality and lack of DRM.

I do from time to time. It's just the fact, i don't listen to music that much, so i don't buy as much. Or download, etc.

I do it, they make great birthday presents.

I dont listen to music

(thats a 'no')

I don't really buy CD's either, only sometimes. i don't listen to music much.

I estimate that more people download songs then get the CD.

My friend's a musician, so he does for all his songs.
As for me, I never buy CDs. The radio chooses the mainstream songs I want to listen to, and I prefer music in videogames.

I buy a few CDs, but I don't listen to much normal (i.e. non-computer-game) music, so it's mostly downloads for me.

Download.

I don't even own a CD player, just have my speakers straight into my PC.

Clicking is easier than flicking through physical collections of things, I have all my games on virtual drives, and movies ripped for the same reason.

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Yes, I love CDs. My music library expands very slowly anyway, so when I find a new band I like, I just buy the CD. (Or ask for it on birthdays or suchlike.) I just like having them there to hold and read through and have all lined up neatly on the shelf and stuff. Plus, you know, quality. Of course, having said that, I end up listening to the rips of them on the computer most of the time, or on my Walkman, but still. Still!

Now of course, if I just like one or two songs of someone, then I am hardly going to buy a CD of them just for that. Or if I think I might like someone, I see nothing wrong in a try-before-you-buy approach.

And incidentally, iTunes and its ilk is the silliest thing I have ever heard. It is the worst of both worlds. :p

Short answer: Yes.

Long Answer: Yes, because I don't really think digital distribution will ever really replace physical product. People want to feel like they own something concrete and it is for this reason that I will usually buy CDs of albums I consider important. I'll purchase albums on iTunes if I'm not that fussed, or if I can't track down a copy of the CD.

I tend to scratch cd's awfully fast. So I prefer digital distribution.

I buy CD's and songs off of the iTunes store. I used to download a lot, but then I realized: If my computer dies then I still have all these CD's!
Even though my iPod is on Manually Manage Music, but then again, they are still there if I end up replacing it again.

The last CDs I bought were second-hand ones from bands that are not that popular.
And some CDs I bought directly at the live shows.

I download. CD players are too bulky and inconvenient - whether you're on the go or even on the computer where you have to keep changing them.

I buy CD's as it offers a much better audio quality than bought mp3 files. Another point is that you've still the possibilty to rip it in every format you want and in every quality you want.

I buy CD's as it offers a much better audio quality than bought mp3 files.
A moot point when you consider that your average consumer doesn't have audio equipment of high enough quality to be able to give any real distinctive difference between CD-audio and an MP3, but heigh ho.

Another point is that you've still the possibilty to rip it in every format you want and in every quality you want.
Best argument for CDs ever.

A moot point when you consider that your average consumer doesn't have audio equipment of high enough quality to be able to give any real distinctive difference between CD-audio and an MP3, but heigh ho.
*Pats his roland micro monitors*

The only thing i don't like about Audio CD's is the increased use of copy protections, that produce, up to the copy protection, annoying interferences when you play it with older players or rip it with your pc. And if you've bad luck your player or your cd/dvd drive won't play it all.
But if consumers won't buy such audio cds, the music industry probably stops producing them.
The habit of many online music stores to sell the songs with DRM protection does also prevent me from buying music online.
By the way I never bought music online.

Not overly fussed about the actual case, just quality and lack of DRM.

I seem to be the only one who likes to have the case. The album artwork, the little booklet thing. I just like to have a collection

I don't listen to music that much, so i don't buy as much. Or download, etc.

I don't listen to music

I don't listen to music much.

You lot are all mental.

I prefer music in videogames.

I would agree in some instances

I buy CD's as it offers a much better audio quality than bought mp3 files. Another point is that you've still the possibilty to rip it in every format you want and in every quality you want.

Exactly. On my iPod also, I manage my music manually, so if I didn't have all my CDs and I lost my iPod, I would be well and truly stuffed

You lot are all mental.

So you think everybody listens to music all the time. Right......:confused:

Personally, i'm not mad about music. I don't listen to it much, at all.

That'll change when you grow up.

So you think everybody listens to music all the time. Right......:confused:

Personally, i'm not mad about music. I don't listen to it much, at all.

I never listened to music much when I was younger. I was more of an arty child who preferred cartoons and such. Then I saw the Gorillaz video for Clint Eastwood and I have been mental about music ever since. I'm sure you will grow to love music Shadowmoon, mark my words. I really can't understand how some people don't. I may not be able to write music well but I honestly feel it is the most personal art form out there as it is so varied.

I think I've bought about three music cd's in my whole life.

Poor you.

Why? I don't own a CD player except for my computer, so that's where the music will be played from in any case ('cept iPod). Having all your music on a harddrive is much more convienent than constantly swapping CD's all the time, which consequently makes long playlists a little bit more difficult to manage :p

Yeah, sure you can rip all your CD's, but I feel like that completely nullifies any reason for having bought the physical thing in the first place.

I buy most of my CDs.

I only buy digital versions of things I can't find anywhere else, like the Orange Box Soundtrack. That was a well spent 10 bucks.
If I can get them online, I order the actual CD to be sent to me when I've got the money.

Yeah, sure you can rip all your CD's, but I feel like that completely nullifies any reason for having bought the physical thing in the first place.

WHich only goes to show your ignorance on the matter, really.

To emphasize on a point already mentioned by Squirminator (or that's how I understood it). Things you buy will always feel better. Providing you like them, because if you don't, then you'll be more frustated.
Examples are easy to come by. Since downloading games from the internet became so generalized and normal, I find myself downloading great games and playing them once, why bother? I can just get a new one. When I was a kid, I had to buy PC magazines once a month to get access to Demos. And I played them to death, and it feels like I now hold those games in a high like position in my mind. I'll even replay them if I have the ocassion, transport tycoon, sam & max. Games that I now know I love, but games that had they came out last week, and had I downloaded them, I would have left on my harddrive or deleted them after playing them once, or twice. Music, and games are like women (or men), you might not like them at first glance, but if you kind of force yourself to interact with them there's a higher chance you'll learn to love them, and I don't been forcing yourself and in saying 'I gotta play this every day', but when you buy something with your own capital, you'll give the game or music cd a REAL chance, instead of 10 minutes worth of your time which won't guarantee a objective opinion on the product.

With everything now so easy to obtain, unless it's basically perfect or something you really love, you'll just end up searching for other stuff you can get just as easy. You'll spend more time searching and downloading than actually enjoying the products.
Might be just me, or it might just be the fact I'm growing up, but damn, those PC magazines with a demo CD which sometimes included a FULL GAME! tasted like heaven and nowadays I download CDs (hypocrite of me to admit, I know), and just browse the songs listening to them for 10 seconds see if someone is totally awesome, which usually ends with me deleting the CD because why waste hard drive space when I'm going to fill it with other **** later?

Bottom line is, stop yourself from downloading media, buy the thing with your own work money, chances are, if you like it, you'll keep the CD/game forever and perhaps show it to your kids.

Anyone still buy vinyl?

Yes on both accounts, CD's and vinyls.

Not many of the latter anymore [unless they're included with a special edition of an album in CD format like they were in the case of the In Rainbows discbox], because I'm waiting to purchase a turntable that isn't 25+ years old first. Could be a while seeing as a digital camera, a new computer and headphones take priority, though. :rolleyes:

Anyone still buy vinyl?

I have about five, but my vinyl player broke.

I'm really more of a leather man.

I'm the same as super_frea I buy a new CD almost every week. I normally buy it from Amazon or something though Virgin Megastore and HMV are all too commercial for me

I buy CDs. I like getting albums: every so often I buy an album on a whim based on one good track, and discover ten better ones. I just wouldn't do that with iTunes. Also I resent being charged for a lossy-compressed track when there's a perfectly serviceable uncompressed version I could have. Plus I like that I get a free backup copy I can store in case my PC dies. I know I could burn my own, but that's just hassle I don't need.

So you think everybody listens to music all the time. Right......:confused:

You'll be using the confused emoticon a lot if that's the way your head is wired up.

I don't like music.
Everyone likes music.
Oh, so everyone listens to music all the time, do they, even when they're asleep and sometimes they listen to several songs at once while playing the banjo? DOES THAT SOUND LIKELY TO YOU? HUH?

Learn to think in shades of grey, please.

I buy physical copies of all the music CDs that I like. I don't use them, rather I keep them in a CD case for use in situations where it's most useful to do so, but I do make sure I have them. I use them as a back up. same reason I keep game DVDs instead of downloading the game. I like to know I have a copy of the product and even if my computer dies I will continue to have ready access to the product.

Shadowmoon, please don't delete your posts like that, it's a right pain for the mods to make the thread read well again - particularly when people have quoted you. That totally defeats the point of removing your posts if quotes still remain.


And back on topic... I haven't ever bought a music CD - only ever buy off iTunes.

And back on topic... I haven't ever bought a music CD - only ever buy off iTunes.

Gee, there is a surprise. :p

Why? It happens to be a very convenient distribution method, in my opinion. Plus, I don't really have space in my room for shedloads of CDs, when I do have quite a bit of space on my hard drive.

Here are all my cds...
Some of my Dad's are in there as well though.
I'd say about 30 of them.

Here are all my cds...
Some of my Dad's are in there as well though.
I'd say about 30 of them.
WOAH! I suppose it takes you minutes before you found the CD you're looking for. And for me, I just download music. Sometimes. But eh, I like it more if I buy it in reality.

seriously, superfrea, you could probably BUY a CD factory for that much money :p

... or at least a cd cupboard. ;)

seriously, superfrea, you could probably BUY a CD factory for that much money :p

CD's don't cost much, but of super_freas CD's maybe worth about £200.00, or something.

I have a big collection of CD's down in my living room, but only... 8 of them belong to me, whilst about 60 of them belong to my Parents.

That is not true considering cds are usually £10-£15 assuming that all cds are £10, £200 worth would leave with with 20 cds...

Now I'm not sure how many cds there are there but i'm pretty sure it's more than 20.

That is not true considering cds are usually £10-£15 assuming that all cds are £10, £200 worth would leave with with 20 cds...

Now I'm not sure how many cds there are there but i'm pretty sure it's more than 20.

I'm sorry, but CD's i've seen are no more than £12.00.

Unless you buy them from HMV.

It depends a lot on what they are. I've bought albums for anywhere from £0 to £15. For something special you can pay a lot more, but that's the exception. Generally, the expensive ones are better. This is because bad music only usually gets released it it's lowest-common-denominator pop drivvel, so they're always made in much greater numbers and are therefore cheaper.

It depends a lot on where you go, and how specific a thing you're looking for, too. You can find a CD for £8, no problem, but if you go out specifically for Charlotte Gainsbourg's 5:55 (which you should) then you'll be damn lucky if that particular CD is on offer at that time.

CD's don't cost much, but of super_freas CD's maybe worth about £200.00, or something..

Errr, no. At a tenner a pop. that'd mean 20 CDs. Heck, even at a pound a time you're still under-estimating.

That "pile" looks up to three columns deep in places, so a very rough guess I'd say there's at least 500 CDs in there, probably more. £10/disc (huge approximation, as some may be singles, multipacks or bought cheap - or copies :p), that'd mean there's at least £5k's worth of discs there.

(huge approximation, as some may be singles, multipacks or bought cheap - or copies :p)

All albums. I've never bought a single in my life.

Looks like you've also bought a few double-CD albums and multi-disc boxsets too.


Actually, I lied earlier - I have bought 5 CDs once because it was cheaper to buy them off Amazon and pay for shipping than download the 100 tracks off iTunes.

Looks like you've also bought a few double-CD albums and multi-disc boxsets too..

Yeah I have. There are probably a few mix cds that I have made in there also oh and I have at least 8 cds that came free with magazines :p

Actually, I lied earlier - I have bought 5 CDs once because it was cheaper to buy them off Amazon and pay for shipping than download the 100 tracks off iTunes.
*gasp!*
What would Steve think if he could see you know?!

Well that's his own stupid fault for not being able to match Amazon's offer of 14 pence per track for that particular album :p

Here are all my cds...
Some of my Dad's are in there as well though.
I'd say about 30 of them.
That's ridiculous!

Here are all my cds...
Some of my Dad's are in there as well though.
I'd say about 30 of them.

You never heard the bottom ones, right? (or at least forgot what they have)

*Pats his roland micro monitors*

The only thing i don't like about Audio CD's is the increased use of copy protections, that produce, up to the copy protection, annoying interferences when you play it with older players or rip it with your pc. And if you've bad luck your player or your cd/dvd drive won't play it all.

Solution, rip them as FLAC files then convert from FLAC to MP3 :) FLAC has no support for DRM or any such crap.

1. The part you quoted wasn't about DRM but Copy Protection like CDS200 or Sony's XCP.
2. Many portable music/media players don't support open formats like FLAC or OGG. :(

Finally i figured out how to download songs to your PSP.

I do like music, its just that i lost my MP3 player so haven't been able to listen to music much

Downloaded loads of songs today and i like downloading music rather than buying CD's. Whats the point when you can get them online? best part= they are free often.

Finally i figured out how to download songs to your PSP.:confused: eh? I assumed they'd just attach a USB cable to the thing since it's advertised as being a media player. what sort of nonsense are they requiring to get music and such on the PSP?

Yup it's just click and drag man. Why did that take you so long to work out?

It only accepts MP3 files as a song.

I tried to get the songs off all my CD's and it didn't work because they weren't in MP3 Format.

Today i read somewhere that it only accepts songs if its in MP3 Format, so thats when i found out.

To download music to a PSP you connect the USB cable to the computer then you find the song which has to be in MP3 format, then you save it to the MUSIC folder.

I had that problem with WMA files but it simply needs to download a plug in from the internet enabling it to play them. It even asks you.

I assuming you can't connect your PSP to the internet or something?

I had that problem with WMA files but it simply needs to download a plug in from the internet enabling it to play them. It even asks you.

I assuming you can't connect your PSP to the internet or something?

I have internet connection on my PSP and i can browse the internet on it, yes.

Why am i listening to all of mordi's songs today?

Song: Moonlight Sonata

Artist: Mordi

I have internet connection on my PSP and i can browse the internet on it, yes.

Well it should have asked you then. What file type were they?

Well, i downloaded mordi's songs from my PSP simply by clicking the url on his thread.

It doesn't tell you the type, but it worked, and they were in my music folder.

Other songs i downloaded from my laptop, and yes it tells you what type of file it is.

Well, i downloaded mordi's songs from my PSP simply by clicking the url on his thread.

It doesn't tell you the type, but it worked, and they were in my music folder.
That's because they were MP3 files.

Other songs i downloaded from my laptop, and yes it tells you what type of file it is.
Care to tell me what they are?

That's because they were MP3 files.


Care to tell me what they are?

MP3 Files.

It only accepts MP3 files as a song.

I tried to get the songs off all my CD's and it didn't work because they weren't in MP3 Format.

Today i read somewhere that it only accepts songs if its in MP3 Format, so thats when i found out.

To download music to a PSP you connect the USB cable to the computer then you find the song which has to be in MP3 format, then you save it to the MUSIC folder.lol, I love idiot mistakes like that....especially because of how often I've done the same friggin thing :p I always feel the need to slap myself afterwards...

MP3 Files.
*slaps forehead*
I'm talking about the files that the PSP wouldn't let you put on...

*slaps forehead*
I'm talking about the files that the PSP wouldn't let you put on...

I'll check the CD's out later. This was 3 months ago i decided to download some off my CD's.

MP3 Files.if that was intentional, I friggin love you for that :p

if that was unintentional. I love you even more :p

if that was intentional, I friggin love you for that :p

if that was unintentional. I love you even more :p

Why does everyone seem so friggin?

And i was friggin confused like i am friggin often.

Sorry?http://sdfsdfsd

Sorry?http://sdfsdfsd

Kill Aku, he put me in the friggin mood to say friggin.

Song: Conical (yes again)

Author: Guess who

I think you are thinking that this is the 'What song are you listening to now?' thread :p

I think you are thinking that this is the 'What song are you listening to now?' thread :p

What a dumb mistake:p

Acheivement unlocked!:D

Downloaded loads of songs today and i like downloading music rather than buying CD's. Whats the point when you can get them online? best part= they are free often.
Not legally, no.

Not legally, no.

Yes, i know that, and if they weren't allowed to do that then MP3 players and ipods and all that stuff wouldn't have a point of existing.

That's not true. All the music on my iPod is bought legally (pretty much :p).

That's not true. All the music on my iPod is bought legally (pretty much :p).

Oh yeah the Ipod store, but not with MP3's, i don't think.

Yes, i know that, and if they weren't allowed to do that then MP3 players and ipods and all that stuff wouldn't have a point of existing.

Where did the guys, who distribute these files illegally, get the music? What do you think? Yes, they ripped it from an Audio-CD, they possible bought before (or got from other guys). Now tell me, you can only use portable music players to listen illegally distributed and downloaded music ...

Where did the guys, who distribute these files illegally, get the music? What do you think? Yes, they ripped it from an Audio-CD, they possible bought before (or got from other guys). Now tell me, you can only use portable music players to listen illegally distributed and downloaded music ...

I forgot about the ipod store and if there's an MP3 store show me.

ITunes for example, is a mp3 store beside it also sells videos for the ipods.

Mp3 is a filetype. You can rip music from a CD as an Mp3 file and that isn't illegal is it? (unless the CD isn't yours)

Mp3 is a filetype. You can rip music from a CD as an Mp3 file and that isn't illegal is it? (unless the CD isn't yours)

He was talking about downloaded music and, I think, doesn't recognized that you can also rip your music and put it on your mp3 player.

Mp3 is a filetype. You can rip music from a CD as an Mp3 file and that isn't illegal is it? (unless the CD isn't yours)

Technically it is in the UK; I'd heard the law was under review, though, so I can't imagine anyone getting prosecuted (or is it sued?) for doing so.

Really? Well then surely that would mean that Mp3 player are illegal too?

Edit: Actually no scratch that cause you can buy Mp3s from the iTunes store can't you...

That, and it's actually very hard to find an MP3 player that doesn't play WMA tunes.

iPods don't. iTunes has to convert the file type.

Yes, i know that, and if they weren't allowed to do that then MP3 players and ipods and all that stuff wouldn't have a point of existing.being illegal means they're not allowed to do that :p any music downloaded without payment being required before the download is illegal. I own the CDs to 90% of the music I have, and I've converted it all to MP3 by ripping the CDs. downloading music is illegal no matter the situation unless you've paid for it.

now, don't get me wrong, I use limewire, but only for music I wouldn't buy anyway. I should, perhaps, go find a program that lets you download singles for $1 or something, but I really don't care enough :p

any music downloaded without payment being required before the download is illegal.

Errrrrr.... In what way is this (http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/compilations.php) illigal? :confused:

i download all my music online legally ofcourse...




...

Here are all my cds...
Some of my Dad's are in there as well though.
I'd say about 30 of them.

I dread to think what happens when you want a CD which is somewhere at the bottom of the back middle column...

Errrrrr.... In what way is this (http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/compilations.php) illigal? :confused:I hate you :p

You guys do realise that there are thousands of mp3's that you can download legally completely free right? For example www.mp3.com has lots of free mp3's. quite a lot of which are new bands who haven't got a record deal yet. It's a lot easier nowadays for a new band to get their music heard thanks to the internet.

I've added a poll now. So vote away!

Voted sometimes.

Where's the 'I dont listen to music' option?

The question is do you buy CDs, not do you listen to music... :rolleyes:

Where's the 'I dont listen to music' option?it's a stretch, but if you don't listen to music I would say that you PROBABLY don't buy music CDs.....just a guess.

Where's the 'I dont listen to music' option?

Surely you aren't human. Music is the language of the soul.

Surely you aren't human. Music is the language of the soul.

Deep, man. :)

now, don't get me wrong, I use limewire, but only for music I wouldn't buy anyway. I should, perhaps, go find a program that lets you download singles for $1 or something, but I really don't care enough :p

iTunes store sells songs (singles) for $0.99, and all of the albums I've boughten off there have been $9.99... unless they were just completing.

I bought an album on Saturday and a single last night, both via iTunes. pricing remains consistent.

I bought an album on Saturday and a single last night, both via iTunes. pricing remains consistent.

If you have some of the songs already bought from that album they'll let you just complete it for cheaper. :D

The single wasn't part of the album. The album was "Bob Marley and the Wailers: Legend" and the single was "Timebomb" by Beck.

Which Beck album is that from?

It's not. It was released last year as a single.