I was thinking this morning about the games I'm looking forward to this year. There's Super Smash Bros. Brawl, StarCraft II (assuming it makes a 2008 release), and possibly TimeSplitters 4. But I realised that I wasn't really that excited about Worms: A Space Oddity. I remember eagerly anticipating Worms 3D, and with each Worms game since my excitement has slowly dwingled (although it shot up again when I discovered that the DS version of Worms Open Warfare 2 was built on the WA/WWP engine).

With A Space Oddity there's no real excitement there. I'm not looking forward to it, but at the same time I'm not dreading it. I'm indifferent. It's pretty much a given that I'll be buying it, but I don't think I'll be rushing out on launch day to snap it up.

So are you still excited by new Worms announcements? Do you think the franchise has grown stale? Where do you think the game can possibly go from here? Or is it time to put it out to pasture?

A very definite 'meh' from me.
But, my collection of Wii games is looking very pitiful, so I'd welcome W:SO.

To be honest, I think there's been too much on the Worms franchise. We've had 3 3D games now, W3D (which was original), W4 which was an improvement and WF:US which was an interesting spin-off.
Things were a little more interesting when T17 did Lemmings, but that was only small in my eyes.

I'd really welcome something different (mabye a return to AB on these flashy new consoles and PCs :D).

Personally, I think it's time to give worms a bit of a rest. OK, so it's helpful to have a worms game available on each console, then nobody misses out, but particularly with the newer games, it feels like if you've played one of them, you've played them all.

Maybe leave it for a number of years and then return. Let's be honest, if something would be a nice enough feature to add, then it's going to make it's way into Armaggeddon at some point in time. Unless the official games started adding in automatic game recording and the like, I see no need to buy them. Extra weapons aren't a reason enough to buy it. An extra dimension was, but that was something else entirely.

I think there are only two Worms developments that would excite me at this point - either Worms Armageddon DS, or Team17 getting Andy Davidson back into the fold to put into play some of the ideas he wanted to implement but couldn't. Most people see WA as the pinnacle of Worming goodness, but from what Andy has told me there is a lot he wanted to do with the game that Team17 either wouldn't or couldn't let him do. Things like real-time, for instance...

Right now, I'd really like to see Team17 try to get some new stuff out there. Easier said than done - the industry as it is at the moment is not built for new ideas - but considering that only seven out of the twenty-one games released over the past decade have not been Worms games, I'd say it's not something likely to happen any time soon.

I do but not as much as I used to. Although I feel other people on the forum are much like you; the only people I've seen hyping up WASO much are shadowmoron and I.

I was never really excited about any updates beyond the initial W:aSO announcement.

Seeing as my interest doesn't go further than the Beta updates or a new 2D game for PC with enhanced online capabilities and seeing as that looks far in the horizon (which doesn't mean it will eventually be released but that it's unlikely to happen, bad metaphor, I know), I'm not really excited about future announcements unless they meet my interests.

I'm just perpetually excited, me. Its quite interesting to see the stuff that this relatively little company can come up with nowadays, even if they are still sticking to the worms franchise.

I'm rather interested in the game, but Team17 just aren't promoting games like they used to. they aren't in the community and as such it's impossible to be AS excited as I used to be. if some of the teamsters made at least an occassional trip to talk to their fans, at least to announce new stuff, then I could get excited once again. as things are now, though, T17 is just another faceless corporation, and so I just can't care as much as I used to. especially not about the exact same game over and over.

granted, I'm still getting W:ASO, I'm just saying the community isn't the same without T17 and the games ARE the same.

I guess the short answer would be no.

Worms games annoucements ? Where ? When ? The last annoucement I have seen and enjoyed was Worms 4 Mayhem, 3 years ago.

I was moderately interested in Worms 3D before release, but nothing since then. And even that was probably only because people I knew were invited to Team17 HQ to help test the game and get it ready for release.

I didn't lose interest in the series because of something Team17 did or didn't do, I just know that WA already includes almost everything I could ever want from a Worms game. Even if, Angular Wooden Giraffe forbid, its development ended today and a new 2D Worms game was released for the PC, I wouldn't simply switch over. Even though progress wasn't quick, DC and CS have been able to implement more goodies in the game than I could ask from a serious software company to match in these dark times for the industry. Combined with an already amazing base, it seems unlikely to me anything will ever come close to how fun and challenging WA can be right now.

So yeah, the only thing that would have me salivate with excitement right now would be an announcement that WA's two developers are about to get paid for their work so far. The community's interest in the project is already immense; with the added motivation and perhaps the help of another skilled programmer or two [possibly Teamsters] for when DC and CS are too busy with Life, there'd just be no limit for what the game could achieve. The next step is of course Team17 announcing an anniversary rerelease in early 2009, getting rich and saving a good part of the WoW zombies from their addiction in the process by enslaving them with WA in full blown 32 bit colour.

And then we wake up all sweaty... :o

I'm rather interested in the game, but Team17 just aren't promoting games like they used to. they aren't in the community and as such it's impossible to be AS excited as I used to be. if some of the teamsters made at least an occassional trip to talk to their fans, at least to announce new stuff, then I could get excited once again. as things are now, though, T17 is just another faceless corporation, and so I just can't care as much as I used to. especially not about the exact same game over and over.

Agreed.

When W:ASO was announced I didn't feel anything. Like SQ2K said, just indifference. To be honest, I'm not even sure if I'll get it at all. 2D works well enough on my PC, but on my Wii ... Meh.

Still, I'd love a new 3D game for all the consoles + PC, although that puts me in an extreme minority around here. :p

As for me, I'd be a lot more excited about it if I wasn't trying to save up for a holiday with Kelster, and if it wasn't coming out around the same time as Brawl and Spore.

I was highly excited prior to W3D's release, as it was the time when I started enjoying the online community of WA & WWP for the first time and new bits of info on W3D were coming out weekly.

Later I was a bit less excited about Worms Forts, but the excitement came back once again with the advent of W4M, where I was participating in the eternal beta test, playing an online game with Spadge himself. :D

After that only Worms titles for consoles and hand-helds were announced and since I never owned one of these, nor am intending to ever get one, my excitement for Worms releases drastically plummeted.
Sure, I checked out the screenies, videos and the new weapon arsenals, but that was about it.

Frankly, these days I get more excited when I realize a new WA alpha build has been released.:rolleyes:

What I'd like to see T17 in the future:
A shiny new FPS-RPG Alien Breed game, a mixture of games like Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Aliens vs. Predator with a gripping, scary single-player story that also delivers a good replay value.
Add a powerful game engine, sophisticated physics, a well thought-out team-based MMO-multiplayer part and you're good to go.

In all seriousness, if Team17 wanted to put together a good Alien Breed game, I'd happily jump on board as a writer for peanuts. Not just because it'd be an opportunity to work with the company, but because I believe if a new Alien Breed game does come out it should tell a good story as well as play well. Not to say Team 17 don't have their own writers, of course, but I would love to be involved.

And thus, my inner Fanboy gets his yearly airing out.

Aliens vs. Predator

I have to say, AVP2s (don't know about AVP) multiplayer was quite refreshing. It makes a nice change to be an alien running around ripping humans apart whilst being shot at.


An AB game would certeinly be a change for the company. Worms has been overused in my view.

I have to say, AVP2s (don't know about AVP) multiplayer was quite refreshing. It makes a nice change to be an alien running around ripping humans apart whilst being shot at.
AvP2 (specifically Primal Hunt) still has a loyal following. (Me included.) Too bad the name has been ruined by the movie vehicle.

Oh, and I would definitely go berserk if they announced another AB.

Yeah, some new Alien Breed or something 100% new would be great.

I remember I was pretty damn interested in W3D, but mostly because of Worm Mad's faq because it listed a lot of possible features that eventually didn't make it. :p

Is there even a AvP1? All I've heard or played is AvP2 so it makes AvP1 look like a myth.

Is there even a AvP1? All I've heard or played is AvP2 so it makes AvP1 look like a myth.

Apparantly there is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_versus_Predator_(computer_game)
Actually there are lots, but only one of them is the prequel to AVP2.

Yes, there is an AvP1 (http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/c/05/ae/68/2a_7.JPG) game. There's even an Gold edition (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517SAG7RXKL._AA280_.jpg) of it, which I own.
They were made by Rebellion (http://www.rebellion.co.uk/).

And yes, AvP2 (with Primal Hunt) is the better game with the Alien's playable life cycle, the Predator's new weapon and the humans' usable mechs.

The only major flaw it has is that you can't destroy lamps and lights around the (multiplayer) levels anymore.
It was extremely funny to bash all the light sources on a map as an Alien and then wait motionless in a corner on the ceiling.
Humans couldn't use nightvision goggles and the motion tracker at the same time and had to switch between them constantly in panic. Or drop a flare every few meters. :D

It was extremely funny to bash all the light sources on a map as an Alien and then wait motionless in a corner on the ceiling.
Humans couldn't use nightvision goggles and the motion tracker at the same time and had to switch between them constantly in panic. Or drop a flare every few meters. :D

Now that would be nice.

AvP2 also has a nice survivor mode. It's even more interesting when the Aliens are set to survivor and humans as the mutator race. It leads to the most tense games I've ever played.

It was extremely funny to bash all the light sources on a map as an Alien and then wait motionless in a corner on the ceiling.
Humans couldn't use nightvision goggles and the motion tracker at the same time and had to switch between them constantly in panic. Or drop a flare every few meters. :D
Haha, I remember doing that all the time. Good memories...

Now if they could do something that fun with AB...

Meh. They're either 3D or 2D on a console, neither of which I'll buy.

Meh. They're either 3D or 2D on a console, neither of which I'll buy.so would you try a 4D worms? :p

unless they have a 3D breakthrough, I think W:ASO is the last worms game I'll buy. worms are getting old now and the recent games were not the best. the flaws that are boring me are: W:OW1 was just bad. it came with only classic weapons and glitchy gameplay. nothing ohter than it being portable was good. W:OW2 seemed like a great game and I think it's been the best 2D worms yet, but just like the others, it only lasted for about 3 weeks before moving onto other games. W:ASO seems like a spin-off of the W:OW games.... and a really good one at that.

if W:ASO fails then I'll just move onto RTS games for strategy.:(

anyways, my vote was yes, but not as much as I used to.

so would you try a 4D worms? :pA 4D worms game would be pretty much the same as the 3D games. In fact, aren't the "3D" games actually 4D since they involve turns (time)?

I am voting yes but not much as i used too, for this one. I am really excited about WASO, because my favourite console is a wii, so therefore, i am happy that it has arrived on my favourite console. However, i think that it may be in everyones interest, to perhaps do something else in stead of worms all the time. Correct me if i am wrong, but i think that other people including me, are starting to get bored of worms.:-/

Yeah, i think it could do with a break.

Yeah, that's starting to become the attitude of pretty much everyone around here;)

I think a revival of superfrog would be interesting. I like platformer games. I have never played any of Team 17's games except worms and lemmings though.:(

Oh yeah, superfrog is great. I managed to emulate it with an Amiga emulator, although I'm not sure if you have the technical ability to get it working (no offense or anything). Also you have to pay for it, so even if you can you'll need to get your parents' permission and spend money. I know, I bought it when I was 11 ;)

Oh yeah, superfrog is great. I managed to emulate it with an Amiga emulator, although I'm not sure if you have the technical ability to get it working (no offense or anything). Also you have to pay for it, so even if you can you'll need to get your parents' permission and spend money. I know, I bought it when I was 11 ;)

I'm not that great at computers anyway. I won't buy it, but if they revived him in a new game, i would try it out.

Oh yeah, Superfrog. I remember playing that all the time. Of course, I called it "green guy" back then. :p

I dunno...

I mean, when the new games come out, its better than the last... until they add new stuff and forget about the important thing, making the new game worse than the one before..

Take "Burnout" for example. The first was good, second was better than one, 3 was better than 2, 4 was better than 3, but then 5 had half of the game completely knocked off, and 4 was loads better.

But Worms has always been better.


Long story short, meh.

I dunno...

I mean, when the new games come out, its better than the last... until they add new stuff and forget about the important thing, making the new game worse than the one before..

Take "Burnout" for example. The first was good, second was better than one, 3 was better than 2, 4 was better than 3, but then 5 had half of the game completely knocked off, and 4 was loads better.

But Worms has always been better.


Long story short, meh.yeah, but it's getting to an area where they can't keep adding much into the new games. now is a good time to branch into other fields before worms becomes stale. nothing stopping them from going back to worms, but it's a good opportunity to further build the Team17 name.

Lemmings + Worms = Whacko.

No, The worms games are all the same. and none for PC anymore.

W:OW2 for the DS was very good, but still, I really loved Worms 4.

I can't believe how bad people thought of it, I thought it was pretty much flawless! Great beautiful graphics, great playability, great rope, great weapons, amazing online. I had bunches of fun playing it online before moving to a Mac.

Don't get me wrong, I've always been a hardcorde fan of W:A, but the move to 3D, while not so smooth in W:3D, it was excellent in Worms 4!

I really wish Team17 would release a new 2D game for the WiiWare, much like Worms HD for the Xbox, but with a little bit more contents, weapons, and without putting crazy twists like in W:SO. Just plain worms.
And I still wait for a proper Worms 5 in 3D for a retail Wii game.

And no, I don't think taking a "break" from the worms franchise is a good move for Team17. I still look for quality worms games, and I still look forward to them every single time.

An attempt to make a new platformer or a new whatever could work, but don't ever leave Worms aside. Just don't leave stuff like W:3D, W:OW1 and W:SO come out anymore, and I'll be happy.