Hola soy rafa de uruguay
queria saber si hay algun tipo de ranking para las partidas online ?
Gracias

*attempts to translate using microsoft word*

nope, sorry
:p

its spanish IMHO.


Hello I am rafa of Uruguay queria to know if there is some type of ranking for the games online? Gracias

"Hi, I'm Rafa, from Uruguay. I would like to know if there is some ranking for online matches"

If you don't mind, I'll explain it in spanish...

Rafa, verás, hace tiempo había rankings, pero la gente los hackeaba como quería. Así que los han quitado. De todas maneras, estan intentando mejorarlo, asi que si tienes mucha paciencia, igual lo puedes ver... Y si, te puedo asegurar que siguen actualizando el juego.

I think it's very nice of you to explain him in his mother tongue but make sure you know your facts first. There has never been rankings in WWP. Therefore they didn't take them off, unless you're talking about W:A, if you are, I'll let you know that they didn't take them off because people where hacking them as they pleased, hacking and cheating aren't the same thing, and I'm not saying they took them down because people cheated them, either. Also, even if it's technically true they're still updating WWP (if we consider the merge as an update) it might lead the guy to believe certain things that are not true, like WWP getting an update, which, as far as I'm concerned, it never has.

I think it's very nice of you to explain him in his mother tongue but make sure you know your facts first. There has never been rankings in WWP. Therefore they didn't take them off, unless you're talking about W:A, if you are, I'll let you know that they didn't take them off because people where hacking them as they pleased, hacking and cheating aren't the same thing, and I'm not saying they took them down because people cheated them, either. Also, even if it's technically true they're still updating WWP (if we consider the merge as an update) it might lead the guy to believe certain things that are not true, like WWP getting an update, which, as far as I'm concerned, it never has.

D:

I though this was the WA thread...

oops...

There were rankings in the first 6 months of WWP. Then because of hacking and cheating, the rankings were turned off.

Plainplane :)

There were rankings in the first 6 months of WWP. Then because of hacking and cheating, the rankings were turned off.
http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/images/franpa-alert/franpa-code-orange.png
Wrong. WWP never had online rankings.
W:A did, but they were turned off in 2000, circa a year after release.

I know that WWP originally had rankings after its launch but they were turned off.

Plainplane :)

I know that WWP originally had rankings after its launch but they were turned off.
You have a sieve-like knowledge then.
WWP never had online ranking. You won't find anything mentioning it in the manual.

strength by numbers!

bonz is correct. The W:A rank system had already failed by the time WWP came into stores. It wouldn't have been logical to enable an identical ranking system in WWP because it was already shown not to work. WWP does have the ranking system implemented in the game but it has never been used (properly).

I know that WWP originally had rankings after its launch but they were turned off.

Plainplane :)
WWP does have the ranking system implemented in the game but it has never been used (properly).

now bonz based on the above 2 quotes it seems plainplain is right.

"my posts" "deserve" "no respect" "." "i like making contradicting posts" "!" "forget entirely about" "my bad posts" "."

Read the context of the thread.

now bonz based on the above 2 quotes it seems plainplain is right.
Ehrm, no.
There's a difference between the ranking system being available to the player and then getting turned off and the code for such a ranking system being available in the game.

And what Etho said.

strength by numbers!

bonz is correct. The W:A rank system had already failed by the time WWP came into stores. It wouldn't have been logical to enable an identical ranking system in WWP because it was already shown not to work. WWP does have the ranking system implemented in the game but it has never been used (properly).

I think the W:A rank system was no failure. It was just the moderating that was a failure, implementing them in WWP wouldn't have been logical indeed, unless Team17 put the effort into monitoring them, but I think the plan is to make a ranking system that is able to work by itself, good luck on that... I wonder how hard is to press the big red ranking button and get some free of charge mods for WA.

Read the context of the thread.

learn to quote :)

i know what the whole thread depicts bonz, hence why i specifically spoke about the 2 quotes i made.

learn to quote :)

i know what the whole thread depicts bonz hence why i specifically spoke about the 2 quotes i made.
Huh?
But Plainplane is not right.
His statement is: WWP had rankings, but they were disabled.
Etho's statement: WWP has rankings code, but never used.

That brings me to the conclusion that Plainplane believes the ranks were once available and useable, but were disabled, which is wrong.

learn to quote

i know what the whole thread depicts bonz hence why i specifically spoke about the 2 quotes i made.

Huh?
Are you saying I can somehow see bonz by reading this thread? ...?

I'll make you a deal Franpa. I will learn how to quote if you learn how to post like a normal person.

Huh?
But Plainplane is not right.
His statement is: WWP had rankings, but they were disabled.
Etho's statement: WWP has rankings code, but never used.

That brings me to the conclusion that Plainplane believes the ranks were once available and useable, but were disabled, which is wrong.WWP had a programmed ranking system at launch but it was immediately disabled. As a result, it was never used.

Plainplane :)

WWP had a programmed ranking system at launch but it was immediately disabled. As a result, it was never used.
That's where you're wrong.
It was never enabled.

Exactly.

After it was programmed it was disabled.

Plainplane :)

So great are the joys of the English language.

Something must be enabled before it can be disabled. Something need not be disabled before it can be enabled. As bonz has already said, the ranking system was never even enabled so it could not have been disabled. It never existed.

So great are the joys of the English language.

Something must be enabled before it can be disabled. Something need not be disabled before it can be enabled. As bonz has already said, the ranking system was never even enabled so it could not have been disabled. It never existed.

but it does exist, its just never been turned on.

but it does exist, its just never been turned on.
No, for the last time!
The rankings never existed because they have never been enabled.
Only the (old, insecure) code for it exists, because WWP mostly uses the same code as WA does.

exactly, it does exist or else there would be not enough code to enable it in the first lace... just because it hasnt been enabled doesnt mean it can't be enabled... it exists but has never been enabled... people take advantage of this with hacks even today people see others with superior ranks.

exactly, it does exist or else there would be not enough code to enable it in the first lace... just because it hasnt been enabled doesnt mean it can't be enabled... it exists but has never been enabled... people take advantage of this with hacks even today people see others with superior ranks.
That's still not the ranking itself. The ranking code runs server side.

No, for the last time!
The rankings never existed because they have never been enabled.
Only the (old, insecure) code for it exists, because WWP mostly uses the same code as WA does.

Can you tell us why it was insecure?

Can you tell us why it was insecure?
It obviously uses the same code as WA does, which can be seen by people using the same fake rank exploits.

doesnt the fact that peopele can adjust there rank prove that it IS enabled but all gui options for it are removed? else how does fake ranking work?

im aware ive changed my story here.

doesnt the fact that peopele can adjust there rank prove that it IS enabled but all gui options for it are removed?
No.That just proves how insecure everything is and you can easily force other players to use your hacked code.
See the old Silkworm for WA.
else how does fake ranking work?
By hacking.
Real ranking where the server logs your progress & rank has never been enabled although the client code still exists.

It obviously uses the same code as WA does, which can be seen by people using the same fake rank exploits.

You mean people where able to hack their rank and there were people that did this? If so can you please provide an example or tell me how many people out of the whole userbase where able to modify their rank by hacking it?

go to blamethepixel and download wwpipe.exe and run it... walah you can now adjust your rank in wwp... i have yet to find such a program for w:a 3.6.26.5

so bonz you say that there was never a ranking server? then yes you are right.

franpa if that first paragraph was aimed at me: don't be stupid.

You mean people where able to hack their rank and there were people that did this? If so can you please provide an example or tell me how many people out of the whole userbase where able to modify their rank by hacking it?
Obviously enough for T17 to take the WA online ranking down. :rolleyes:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=57081&postcount=17

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All I want to know, is how insecure was it, since 1999 I met no one whose account was stolen and only knew of one or two cheating cases, and these we're not system exploits, it was just a guy using two computers.

So, did they bring it down because Kufner hacked it and p1ssed them off, or was it taken off because people where freely hacking their ranks.

Please note that in every game I know where there's ranks and stuff, account stealing and cheating occurs, but there's dedicated mods to solve this.

If a couple of people can run a league for free, why can't Team17? Surely Worms has a bigger userbase than a Worms League, but the difference is not big, even less if we consider that those who are able to hack their rank are probably all signed up in the worms league.