I have the Sold-out version of W:A, and the blue water is getting a bit boring. Where can I get the other water colours?

Even better (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29333)

Very good, but thats not the point.

I want the ORIGINAL COLOURS AS SHIPPED WITH WA.

Unless you are willing to give me the exact settings for every colour, including filenames.

Very good, but thats not the point.

I want the ORIGINAL COLOURS AS SHIPPED WITH WA.

Unless you are willing to give me the exact settings for every colour, including filenames.

They are actually the templates in that program :p

Alright alright, no need to get ratty http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/argh.gif

Could you elaborate on these "missing" water colours? I have an original WA and I only have the blue.

Alright alright, no need to get ratty http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/argh.gif

Could you elaborate on these "missing" water colours? I have an original WA and I only have the blue.

In a official one, there was a number of colours (that the Fiddler used for example). I believe there was Red, Yelllow, Green, Blue and Purple but i may be wrong.

In a official one, there was a number of colours (that the Fiddler used for example). I believe there was Red, Yelllow, Green, Blue and Purple but i may be wrong.

Yes, but there was no official way of switching between them in the PC version. Use the water colour editor that you have been linked too.

Well, there is something for W:A 4

CyberShadow: You listening on this?

CyberShadow listens in on everything. He has minions. And it all filters back to him. http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/ninja.gif

CyberShadow listens in on everything. He has minions. And it all filters back to him. http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/ninja.gif

/me ties Run onto his torture rack with a James Bond style chainsaw. (you would know what I meant if you watched Allo Allo today).

Are you one of his minions?

:p

I want the ORIGINAL COLOURS AS SHIPPED WITH WA.
Capt. Bonz to the rescue.
I've had uploaded the missing water colors here (http://files.filefront.com/worms_missing_water_colorszip/;4955819;;/fileinfo.html) since April 2006.
Are you one of his minions?
Cybershadow's & Deadcode's minions have been tied to exactly such a torture rack and forced to never disclose eachother's identity.
If we did, we would get an even more gruesome torture in some pub in Ossett. :eek:

Hmm well, unless I messed up, the standard templates included in the Water Editor should reproduce the standard colours from Worms 2 and the W:A versions where these were available with up to some 1% error. What's the point in the original files again?

Oh, since W:A 4.0 will be full colour, adding something like the WCE to the map editor shouldn't be a challenge...

If we did

Now, loud enough: OH, CRAP


Also, something like the tombstones in that patch, or even, that editor implemented (we have it external, so it's not that important for now...) would be VERY nice... (if the additional water sprites are also around there, like fire and goo, it would be rather fantastic, to include them, too)

Oh, since W:A 4.0 will be full colour, adding something like the WCE to the map editor shouldn't be a challenge...
So..when W:A 4.0 then?:)

So..when W:A 4.0 then?:)
Coming "When it's done" from 3D Realms DC & CS for the PC.

4.0 is being shipped with duke nukem forever

At any rate, W:A 4 will never be released, for the sole reason that no obvious feature set has been fixed.

CyberShadow:

As one more request, can you fix a feature/bugfix list for W:A 4.0 and work to it, cause at this rate more and more will be added, and it will never get finished.


Cybershadow's & Deadcode's minions have been tied to exactly such a torture rack and forced to never disclose eachother's identity.
If we did, we would get an even more gruesome torture in some pub in Ossett.


How are you meant to get tortured in a pub? Get hit by broken glasses?


Hmm well, unless I messed up, the standard templates included in the Water Editor should reproduce the standard colours from Worms 2 and the W:A versions where these were available with up to some 1% error. What's the point in the original files again?


The editor makes a DAT file, the original files came as a text file and DIR file.

As one more request, can you fix a feature/bugfix list for W:A 4.0 and work to it, cause at this rate more and more will be added, and it will never get finished.

http://www.nanacide.com/images/Emoticons/rolleyes.gif

As one more request, can you fix a feature/bugfix list for W:A 4.0 and work to it, cause at this rate more and more will be added, and it will never get finished.
*whistles*
How are you meant to get tortured in a pub? Get hit by broken glasses?
You haven't been to the forum for a long time to know my standard running gag, have you?
Even your avatar knows it. :)

*whistles*

You haven't been to the forum for a long time to know my standard running gag, have you?
Even your avatar knows it. :)

Hmm, how long have I been here, its been ages...

Just I had a number of years of inactivity, but I do know all about your beer thing.

If you have ever heard those Muller Yogurt advers (you may not have since your in Austria), the song its based on has the line:

I have no beer

:)

EDIT: Just noticed that beer :P

EDIT EDIT:

http://forum.team17.co.uk/member.php?u=58161

A forum member called beer.

Do you have anything to do with this, bonz?

The editor makes a DAT file, the original files came as a text file and DIR file.
um... no. incorrect.

um... no. incorrect.

27/05/1999 10:17 11 colour.txt
27/05/1999 10:17 246,624 Water.dir
2 File(s) 246,635 bytes
2 Dir(s) 90,179,059,712 bytes free

27/05/1999 10:17 11 colour.txt
27/05/1999 10:17 246,624 Water.dir
2 File(s) 246,635 bytes
2 Dir(s) 90,179,059,712 bytes free

*ahem*

that is worms 2, I think... at least, it was sorted like that. But armageddon is just one file, and I'm sure.

*ahem*

that is worms 2, I think... at least, it was sorted like that. But armageddon is just one file, and I'm sure.

nope! this is W:A, first W2 didnt come out in 1999 :P

secondly:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2918/untitledvh6.th.png (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledvh6.png)

plus, contents of colour.txt:
47 55 123


and if you still dont believe me:

Microsoft Windows XP [Filtered ver num.]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Filtered real name>E:

E:\>cd Data

E:\Data>cd Water

E:\Data\Water>ls
'ls' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

E:\Data\Water>dir
Volume in drive E is WA
Volume Serial Number is 9FB3-ADA3

Directory of E:\Data\Water

18/09/2002 13:42 <DIR> .
18/09/2002 13:42 <DIR> ..
18/09/2002 13:42 <DIR> Blue
0 File(s) 0 bytes
3 Dir(s) 0 bytes free

E:\Data\Water>cd Blue

E:\Data\Water\Blue>dir
Volume in drive E is WA
Volume Serial Number is 9FB3-ADA3

Directory of E:\Data\Water\Blue

18/09/2002 13:42 <DIR> .
18/09/2002 13:42 <DIR> ..
27/05/1999 10:17 11 colour.txt
27/05/1999 10:17 246,624 Water.dir
2 File(s) 246,635 bytes
2 Dir(s) 0 bytes free

E:\Data\Water\Blue>

uhm... I see... I have the others in my CD though :p

But I wanna say that the notepad thing is not used. It's just a coluor showed in the "water selection", which doesn't exist... at least that's how it worked in W2, when I modified one :p (where it exists). Maybe it was removed.

lol... believe the Can, its deffo WA. My disk has:

\Data\Water\Blue

colour.txt
Water.dir

But not the other colours, I didn't know they existed! I wouldnt call them very essential or usable though...

And yes, the .txt file isnt used

If you have ever heard those Muller Yogurt advers (you may not have since your in Austria), the song its based on has the line:
I have no beer
The Müller company is only a few hundred kilometers from the Austrian border.
Their yoghurt advertisements have been spamming Austrian TV the last decade.
I don't know the one with beer though.
A forum member called beer.
Do you have anything to do with this, bonz?
Nope, that's not me. I only have this one account.

Uh, what's with all this confusion?

The text files containing the water's RGB colour aren't actually used in-game, AFAIK. The Solid.dir/Transparent.dir files which come with the Water Colour Editor are templates which I put together - the WCE replaces the palette data using Solid.txt and Transparent.txt, which contain the location of all palette bytes.

Now, early european versions of W:A CDs did have all the water colours. I'm not sure if the version of WA.exe on those CDs allowed you to actually set it. Maybe Team17 just didn't get to add that button/drop-down for choosing the water colour in the new map editor. But I do know that these files are absent in the US CDs.

Anyway, the Water Colour Editor does generate .dir files, compatible with the Water.dir files W:A uses. Actually, now I see the source of this confusion: I've accidentally mislabeled the Save button on the program, which currently reads: "Save Water.dat". It still saves files with a .dir extension.

I'm not sure if the version of WA.exe on those CDs allowed you to actually set it.

Metal Alex - Spain

Nope, it doesn't. The files are just in the folder, and there is an image (in the same folder as the image of water shown in the editor) where the water is yellow instead. But not more colors.

This is all I know.

The Müller company is only a few hundred kilometers from the Austrian border.
Their yoghurt advertisements have been spamming Austrian TV the last decade.
I don't know the one with beer though.

Nope, that's not me. I only have this one account.

Well, the advert's ORIGINAL song, not the cutting in the advert.

Uh, what's with all this confusion?

The text files containing the water's RGB colour aren't actually used in-game, AFAIK. The Solid.dir/Transparent.dir files which come with the Water Colour Editor are templates which I put together - the WCE replaces the palette data using Solid.txt and Transparent.txt, which contain the location of all palette bytes.

Now, early european versions of W:A CDs did have all the water colours. I'm not sure if the version of WA.exe on those CDs allowed you to actually set it. Maybe Team17 just didn't get to add that button/drop-down for choosing the water colour in the new map editor. But I do know that these files are absent in the US CDs.

Anyway, the Water Colour Editor does generate .dir files, compatible with the Water.dir files W:A uses. Actually, now I see the source of this confusion: I've accidentally mislabeled the Save button on the program, which currently reads: "Save Water.dat". It still saves files with a .dir extension.

As well as the Sold-Out CDs.

And it was your typo that confused me :P

Sometimes typos are not that bad, sometimes they are bad (like that), sometimes they are fatal (but I dont want to talk about that).

lol... believe the Can, its deffo WA. My disk has:

\Data\Water\Blue

colour.txt
Water.dir

But not the other colours, I didn't know they existed! I wouldnt call them very essential or usable though...

And yes, the .txt file isnt used

Thats cause they were stripped from some CDs.

Besides, I was getting bored of the blue :P

since w:a v1.5 doesnt work under windows XP i cant see if there is a button for multiple water colours.

There's a 1.5 version? Don't you mean 1.0.2.0?

since w:a v1.5 doesnt work under windows XP i cant see if there is a button for multiple water colours.

Give Silkworm 4.something a try, its on Cyber's wiki.

There's a 1.5 version? Don't you mean 1.0.2.0?

The USA cd came already patched... maybe it was that one. Dunno, though :p

V1.05E
19-1-99

i meant 1.05

sorry bout that cybershadow... canofworms, silkworm added windows XP support to W:A v3.0

um... DEADCODE'S silkworm. 'twas made by DC.

ROFL @ how punctuation (or lack of it, in this case) can change the apparent meaning. franpa meant to address canofworms, not say that his silkworm added Windows XP support to W:A.

haha yea, if firefox had a grammar checker i'd use it....

Its half way there... Firefox 2 has a spell check...

i know, hence why somewhere along the way my spelling magicaly improved by vast amounts :P


oh AND just for whoever it was that got ****ed about it.... -.-'

Actually, your brain has a grammar checker built in. You just need to learn how to use it. (Double sense intended ?)