I had a little idea after looking at sel (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=527580&postcount=699) and wormthingy (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=538689&postcount=714) posts in this (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5114&page=24) thread

Now, that we have the IMG code, its possible to do our own team 17 related smilies and post them in any thread without problems. It would be simple. Just submit them in this thread with the code (adding two X, one in the first and one in the last tag). Then, for using them, you just need to copy the code and remove both X in the first and last tags. I will try to have this post updated with the all IMGtag codes for every posted smilie.

Example:
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http://wormsarmageddon.team17.com/images/guides/weap_aqua.gif

[XIMG]http://wormsarmageddon.team17.com/images/guides/weap_aqua.gif[/IMGX]
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Post icons:
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http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon4.gif
[XIMG]http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon4.gif[/IMGX]
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http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif
[XIMG]http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif[/IMGX]
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http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif
[XIMG]http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif[/IMGX]
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http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon10.gif
[XIMG]http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon10.gif[/IMGX]
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NOTE: You need to remove both "X" in the tags for using the image.

It's complicated enough to refrain me from using it... although it would be a good idea if we had some sort of link to an emoticon window at every thread... like dA or something...

yeah, if there was a window we could pull up with the smilies this would be a great plan, but as it is I'd have to continuously come back to this thread over and over and over again just to get the code for those smilies. just isnt' practical.

It's complicated enough to refrain me from using it... although it would be a good idea if we had some sort of link to an emoticon window at every thread... like dA or something...
yeah, if there was a window we could pull up with the smilies this would be a great plan, but as it is I'd have to continuously come back to this thread over and over and over again just to get the code for those smilies. just isnt' practical.
Well, its not completely necessary to come over this thread to look for the smilies. Someone can create a document (html,doc) with the whole list. You just need to download it and use it when you need. Or, even a better option, do the list with flash. Or just leave this thread open in a different window =).

This is the CLOSEST that we can go for having a wide and public list of smilies. So, its a good idea to start filling it ;) .

Well, its not completely necessary to come over this thread to look for the smilies. Someone can create a document (html,doc) with the whole list. You just need to download it and use it when you need. Or, even a better option, do the list with flash. Or just leave this thread open in a different window =).I could see the idea of having a list posted somewhere on a site as a flash or something, but short of that it wouldn't work.

granted, if someone comes up with a decent idea of how to make a flash that serves a good purpose for this then hey, I'm all for it.

I sincerely can't see a good solution that doesn't involve changing the forum code. It wouldn't have to be anything absurd, including a new link would work.

Apart from that, i wouldn't bother myself to let another window open just for this... i'd likely express myself with text.

Just my opinion... :)

Well, if enough people join in, I suppose I could make a copy-to-clipoard image assorter program...

Does it require a lot of work? If not, I'm in. :p

yeah, if there was a window we could pull up with the smilies this would be a great plan, but as it is I'd have to continuously come back to this thread over and over and over again just to get the code for those smilies. just isnt' practical.

You could just add a toolbar bookmark to this thread and have it open in a new window or sidebar.

I do that for a few things if I need some sort of reference while I'm doing something else.

yeah, if there was a window we could pull up with the smilies this would be a great plan, but as it is I'd have to continuously come back to this thread over and over and over again just to get the code for those smilies. just isnt' practical.

Building on that, we could have the weapons panel pop up so we could choose from a range of weapons and smilies. Maybe use worm sprites for the different emotions?

We should talk to Sel...oh wait... damn

mmm.. we could make a googlepages site, add a couple o smileys, make a database with the url + code per smiley...

and put that in our bookmarks

EDIT : we could also tweak the dA emote toolbar

I suppose I could make a copy-to-clipoard image assorter program...
please no program, would be not nice for mac/linux users

You know what?

I've never found myself with my cursor floating over the smilies on the reply page thinking 'Gee I wish these were worm shaped.'

The emotocons on this forum are great. They're simple, minamalistic and nifty. This thread seems like a complicated attempt to make the forum uglyier and more cluttered.

You know what?

I've never found myself with my cursor floating over the smilies on the reply page thinking 'Gee I wish these were worm shaped.'
The worm shape its not necessary. There are lots of emoticons over internet that are small and usefull. The worm shape its an option, but not a need.
The emotocons on this forum are great. They're simple, minamalistic and nifty.
I must agree with that. With the smilies that this forum gives, you can do a lot of expressions in a simple way. However, sometimes it would be nice to show a smilie doing an action instead of writing it...
This thread seems like a complicated attempt to make the forum uglyier and more cluttered.
No. Most smilies that can be used in the forum dont destroy it. It would happen, only if we use the incorrect ones (like the emoticons that are bigger than the letters or smilies that are badly drawn or animated) or if the people start to spam with them. Actually, how you can see in the other post in this thread, most people wouldn't use them because its complicated or takes some extra time. So, the extra smilies would be rarely used. Its better to have a list showing the smilies that are the best for this forum to see people posting the first thing that they find over internet.

The only safe way to have more smilies without destroying the forum visual identity in the process would be to add more smilies officially. Maybe even a new smilie set with a bunch of new smilies that look alike.

I think that isn't that hard to implement. If someone came out with a good copyright free set of new discreet and good looking smilies, it could, perhaps, be added by some administrator in the long term... :P

ps: The most annoying thing is that :P isn't recognized as a smilie... only :p... that really bugs me... ><'

That's to stop you accidently putting in emoticons... Worms 8:Pigs Return. Unfortunately if you type in Worms:DC... but :d doesn't look happy.

We need nocode tags...

:p ;)

That'll do for now, I suppose.

The only safe way to have more smilies without destroying the forum visual identity in the process would be to add more smilies officially. Maybe even a new smilie set with a bunch of new smilies that look alike.'
I don't know... DeviantART got on pretty well with plenty of different smilies...

That's to stop you accidently putting in emoticons... Worms 8:Pigs Return. Unfortunately if you type in Worms:DC... but :d doesn't look happy.
That's fairly simple to resolve with a decent Regular Expression that catches only the :P with spaces around... it's stupidly simple. :p

I don't know... DeviantART got on pretty well with plenty of different smilies...
And now you're gonna say it's not a mess with all those smilies that follow absolutely no rule at all? They have a friggin 100px height llama ffs!

That's fairly simple to resolve with a decent Regular Expression that catches only the :P with spaces around... it's stupidly simple. :pAnd that I find even more annoying than no :P because I never leave spaces for emoticons at the end of sentences.

What about something like this?

What about something like this?
*adds shadow and shading*
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made an gmail account, t17emotes@gmail.com
could turn that into a googlepages site and add the emotes + the url and tags

EDIT: ugh.. cant be botherd to make that page now...
but emotes are there. just do
http://pages.google.com/t17emotes/1.gif (minus the "x"'s of course)
and change the 1.gif into whatever emote you want.. like 12.gif would be http://pages.google.com/edit/t17emotes/12.gif

emotes and their numbers :
http://t17emotes.googlepages.com/previewemoticons.png
snazzy pic aye? http://pages.google.com/t17emotes/10.gif

ill make a flash menu and stuff as soon as i find a proper tutorial on how to put stuff on clipboard...

Looks decent enough...

Although the perfectly round head looks kinda odd with the wormish eyes. A more wormish shaped head would look perfect. :)

But the main problem resides in getting an administrator to make the change... if one is willing to do so, then the smilies would be merely a detail. :)

damn you vader...

What have I done?

What have I done?

making brilliant pics like its nothing, kind like slick, who i hate for being a better artist http://pages.google.com/edit/t17emotes/10.gif

btw, where is the sarcazm emote http://pages.google.com/edit/t17emotes/7.gif ?

ooh... worm smileys...
ooh... wormthingy's pic...
ooh... red x's:p

For starting, I wrote some codes for the "posts icons" and also noticed a problem...

Every post its capped to 5 img/smilies. So I cannot put a list of every smilie with the code http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif. The only way to write the list, would be with an external page (or file).

Wormthingy, the smilies dont work :-/ for me. Check if everything is ok in the links.

A more wormish shaped head would look perfect. :)

Well I've gone ahead and done that because I figured I might as well.

And they sure look better, don't they? :D

umm...
keep the old ones. the new ones look... umm... like a tilted piece of paper

We need nocode tags...

:p ;)

That'll do for now, I suppose.

We have no code tags..

This is hopefully not bold

I prefer the new ones simply because they look like worms, which fits in better with the forum.

We have no code tags..

This is hopefully not bold

I prefer the new ones simply because they look like worms, which fits in better with the forum.
Nifty :)

*attempts to break the forum with an unclosed tag*

[noparse]

Damn.

ooh... worm smileys...
ooh... wormthingy's pic...
ooh... red x's:p


Wormthingy, the smilies dont work :-/ for me. Check if everything is ok in the links.

fixed them.. accidently left the ../edit/.. part in http://t17emotes.googlepages.com/10.gif

For starting, I wrote some codes for the "posts icons" and also noticed a problem...

Every post its capped to 5 img/smilies. So I cannot put a list of every smilie with the code http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif. The only way to write the list, would be with an external page (or file).
yeah, thats why the googlepages account

EDIT: ugh.. http://t17emotes.googlepages.com/ googlepahes wysiwyg my ass.. it stinks. http://t17emotes.googlepages.com/3.gif

Worm-shaped head is better.
Now, we can all sit back and watch as noone's going to be bothered to use them.

Edit: ...aside from Wormthingy.

I seriously can't be the only one who thinks those look like crap.

Whoever mentioned Deviantart's emotocons is an idiot. Hundreds of inconsistent, ugly and animated emotocons is not a good thing.

I seriously can't be the only one who thinks those look like crap.trust me, you're not. both the round and the "wormy" version of those smileys look like complete and utter crap cakes to me.

Whoever mentioned Deviantart's emotocons is an idiot. Hundreds of inconsistent, ugly and animated emotocons is not a good thing.well, some of the emoticons there DO have merit, but yeah, when making a list of smileys for a single site, the list should be consistent when it comes to style. half the crap on dA just looks horrible. the other half is mostly uselesss.

We need nocode tags...

:p ;)

That'll do for now, I suppose.

UGH. People.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1224/doisl8.png

UGH. People.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1224/doisl8.pngBut what if you want smilies and no screwed up names?

"worms:open warfare :D"
"worms:open warfare :D"

I seriously can't be the only one who thinks those look like crap.
You are not the only one. They are not crap, only need some changes,
Now, we can all sit back and watch as noone's going to be bothered to use them.
Thats... so true (unless someone post "really" good emoticons).

However, I will use this http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif and this http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif one. They are very usefull (and I use them a lot on msn : P)

You are not the only one.

Thats... so true (unless someone post "really" good emoticons).

However, I will use this http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif and this http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif one. They are very usefull (and I use them a lot on msn : P)bah! why can't those 2 be in the default smilies? :-/

bah! why can't those 2 be in the default smilies? :-/
They are bigger than the text http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif.

Normal smilie: 13 px
Post icons: 15 px
Font size (I think): 14 px

1 pixel...

how about this : " http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9255/ambivalentvc4.gif " giving the smilies an other colour and slighty worm-ish eyes?

trust me, you're not. both the round and the "wormy" version of those smileys look like complete and utter crap cakes to me.

Personally, I think the default ones are ugly and overcrowded; there's not enough white-space within each smiley.

Of course, if you think you can do better*, feel free.

*either by making better emoticons or by expressing what is actually wrong with them. There's no point just saying they're crap cakes. It is statements like this which have made me punch people in their (smug) faces.

Personally, I think the default ones are ugly and overcrowded; there's not enough white-space within each smiley.

Of course, if you think you can do better*, feel free.

*either by making better emoticons or by expressing what is actually wrong with them. There's no point just saying they're crap cakes. It is statements like this which have made me punch people in their (smug) faces.there's nothing wrong with them, honestly. to me, they just lack the charm that smileys normally have. they just don't seem to truly be smilies to me, and there's really no reason why.

as for the worm-shaped ones, I just think the head is awkwardly shaped. doesn't look quite like a worm to me. I think the head's just a bit wide or something, which throws off the wormishness to me.

there's not enough white-space within each smiley.

What does this mean, please?

What does this mean, please?

theyre too small, and over crowded..
i think vader means they need to be bigger so that you can add more detail within each smilie

I kinda like how they're tiny and simplistic.
Emoticons are meant to give meaning to a sentence that the words can't convey by themselves. They're only meant to display an emotion and add to the words. They shouldn't take over the sentence entirely, and in that case, the current, small, subtle emotes do just fine.

This is why certain DA emoticons are ADOHRABAHLZ, but unnecessary, since the emotion can usually be displayed as words (Though sometimes during especially distressing situations it can be hard to find the right words to say, and in that case an emote is appropriate).

The only emotes I generally use are :p , :rolleyes: , and occasionally :D because they show emotions (Jest, Sarcasm and Amusement) that words can't always display on their own.

I kinda like how they're tiny and simplistic.
Emoticons are meant to give meaning to a sentence that the words can't convey by themselves. They're only meant to display an emotion and add to the words. They shouldn't take over the sentence entirely, and in that case, the current, small, subtle emotes do just fine.

This is why certain DA emoticons are ADOHRABAHLZ, but unnecessary, since the emotion can usually be displayed as words (Though sometimes during especially distressing situations it can be hard to find the right words to say, and in that case an emote is appropriate).

The only emotes I generally use are :p , :rolleyes: , and occasionally :D because they show emotions (Jest, Sarcasm and Amusement) that words can't always display on their own.I completely agree. I'm sick of people making emoticons to represent everything and then some. Emoticons are, like the name says, meant to represent emotions that you can't do online. They're not meant of being either long animated GIFs or every possible action that you could just write like *so* or pointlessly huge and detailed so they become annoying and get in the way.

If you want to use your own smileys with IMG, nobody's stopping you. If somebody else wants to use them, they can just copy the image url and use it too. Enough with all the standardizing. :p

And the amount of emoticons dA has is obscene! I always had a hard time looking up how to add one of them.

And the amount of emoticons dA has is obscene! I always had a hard time looking up how to add one of them.
Same here

Although i don't quite agree with your position towards these emoticons. I agree that they shouldn't be huge and cover every little action possibility, but at least to me, this forum lack some important emoticons that would help expressing ourselves.

Plus, since it's the T17 forum, i think it deserves a little more care... with custom emoticons. These ones are rather small to express stuff properly. I wouldn't mind if they were the same size as the decent (not those huge and missplaced ones, i'm talking about those ones that follow a patern) smilies we see on dA, since it's the size adopted by pratically every single forum on the internet.

since it's the size adopted by pratically every single forum on the internet.

I like being different.

If all the smilies had a fight, everyone else would get in a brawl, but ours would sneak past them since they're so small.
Then they'd go have a party and drink beer and laugh at all of the stupid big lugs. :p

this forum lack some important emoticons that would help expressing ourselves...Like what? Nearly everything can be written in words, except for a few. If you can name one you need here, tell us. If it's important enough, people will want it too :)

We can't tell people :HUG: :mad:

Or :GONK:

What's gonk?
Even the free translator doesn't know it...

Perhaps it's like "belm".

I think it's more like "narf"...

Anyways, about the smilies, Apocalypse, it's hard to explain... although pretty much everyone that i speak on the MSN can confirm i made myself a lot of custom emoticons to enhance the whole thing.

It's not like "OMG, this is HORRIBLE, i'm in so much pain due to the lack of images to show my emotions! OH!!!". It's just that would be nice if we had some more of them, even following the same pattern we have today... at last to shake things a bit around here.

What's gonk?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Gonk_red-c.jpg

Ahem.
Actually, there are a number of definitions, but the version I know is that it's the expression you have when you, say, see extremely alternative Calvin and Hobbes pornography.

:GONK:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/GNK_power_droid

My parents keep calling these things gonks:

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I think this photo may explain a lot about me.

<PLUG>
On the subject of emoticons, RealVG's forum has a fine selection, as designed by mine own fair hand
</PLUG>

My parents keep calling these things gonks:Lol, we called em "wuppies" last World Champ Soccer XD

Personally, I prefer to call them bugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJBBgwmoiQ
gonk/bug/wuppie<lighter

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Chtvv-egI&mode=related&search=
gonk/bug/wuppie<acid

EDIT2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6DiOHdnTiA&mode=related&search=
erm.. we can explain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJBBgwmoiQ
gonk/bug/wuppie<lighter

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Chtvv-egI&mode=related&search=
gonk/bug/wuppie<acid:eek: You monster!

(Or those monsters, or whatever. But still :p)

paul... if you want to know, the comment below:
"lukt dat ook met zoutzuur?" means
- "Does it work with saltpeter acid?"

"Dit was zwavelzuur, dus met zoutzuur zal ook wel lukken, helaas maar 1 wuppie anders hadden we nog wel het een en ander geprobeerd XD"
- "this was sulfur acid, so with saltpeter it will work aswel, unfortunately we only had 1 wuppie/bug/gonnk or else we had tried some other things XD"

now who's the monster? :rolleyes:

Hey, we just make the stuff. We don't get any say in what it gets used for.

I assume "saltpeter acid" is nitric acid...

My parents keep calling these things gonks:

Oh man, those! I don't even remember what we called those things.
"Wupples" is the closest, but I'm not sure if that's exactly what we called them around here.

Let's go back to topic okay? Although I still don't know what the "feeling" is of GONK...
Carry on..

You have already idea? Read this Posting Smiles Manual.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25659980
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26581890
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26786968

My parents keep calling these things gonks:

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I think this photo may explain a lot about me.

<PLUG>
On the subject of emoticons, RealVG's forum has a fine selection, as designed by mine own fair hand
</PLUG>Ohhhh, I have some of those. They fight cancer and what not.

Ohhhh, I have some of those. They fight cancer and what not.That is just a wonderful image.

That is just a wonderful image.Huh? What do yo mean by that? :confused:

Huh? What do yo mean by that? :confused:The mental image of a bunch of fluffy little bug things as superheroes fighting against the Dreaded Lord Cancer.

I mean, I know what Dan meant when he said they fight cancer, but I have a quirky imagination

And liquified, they have laxative properties. :p ;)

Wuppie Movies post thingy...One of mine came in the Vacuemcleaner... it was all ripped apart XD.

They fight cancer and what not.now that would be great.

The mental image of a bunch of fluffy little bug things as superheroes fighting against the Dreaded Lord Cancer.

We think alike, you and I...