Ey guys, we're opening the 1st group of testers for the game we're making.
For quick, brief information about the game go to the FAQ:
http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=faq
For screenshots of the game go to:
http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots
To apply to be a tester go to:
http://www.wormsrenegade.com/forum/index.php And post under "Apply for Testing"

Thanks :)

from those screenshots it looks like there's quite a lot in it so far... it looks cool... seeing as there's more enemies that just worms... mind, the hud could probably be shrunk... as you don't really need those two circles for health, when it could be a bar... and some of the sprites look slightly small and hard to make out. sorry if that sounded harsh.

anyway, the 3d graphics look nice... and the premise of a worms rpg is good.

mind, I can't test, as I don't have the time.

hehe its ok if you dont have time, but thanks for the input =)

When would testing start and for how long would someone have to do it?

in a week or 2 I'll read over the applications and pick the 25 I need then it starts.
Then the testing is in multiple short phases, for exemple, the 1st phase would be testing all the city elements, hotel, jail, shops, npc's, houses, collision etc.
phase 2 would be battles, phase 3 would be quests etc

If you're pick as a tester it's up to you how much testing you wanna do, but if you dont do anything then obviously you'll be replaced :)

Most users ever online was 4 on Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:10 pm
heheh.

Do we need to put our full name?

no just the name you want us to call you with, and yes its been relativly secret and private until now, which is why there arent many users and posts :)

I like the way you use ":) " at the end of your posts. It makes you feel secure somehow... OK. Oh, and also, I'm 14 now but when the testing starts I'll probably be 15. Should i put 15?

Sounds cool...when will the game be released to the "non-testers" ?

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23953&page=43) and my Team Alpha (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27831&page=15).

The funny thing is how this thread was made a day after Faraz here said that a worms MMORPG would be the stupidest idea ever.

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23953&page=43) and my Team Alpha (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27831&page=15).


You mean those crappy games made using game maker? lol no thanks I dont think I have anything to learn from them. And I'm sorry you dont like RPG's, its not related to the worms you know in any way, the only thing in common is that the character is a worm, nothing else. So I dont understand why a worms RPG would be bad, if it was ducks or humans or elfs instead of worms it would be better? You make no sense lol

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23953&page=43) and my Team Alpha (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27831&page=15).

Being a prepreprealpha tester for WR (not that I actually TEST anything more than play around with it) I can tell you that it isn't the stupidest idea ever, and you sir are lame for suggesting as such.

And I'm sorry you dont like RPG's, its not related to the worms you know in any way, the only thing in common is that the character is a worm, nothing else.
I think that's the biggest thing. You claim it to be a game based off worms, but the only thing it has in common is the characters. And the worst thing is that the characters, aside from the 3D pics, don't even look like the T17 worms whatsoever.

You mean those crappy games made using game maker? lol no thanks I dont think I have anything to learn from them.
Being a prepreprealpha tester for WR (not that I actually TEST anything more than play around with it) I can tell you that it isn't the stupidest idea ever, and you sir are lame for suggesting as such.
*Warning! Warning! Flame War Imminent! Please Remain Indoors With Windows Closed At All Costs!*

And Team Alpha is not a GameMaker game.

umm where did I EVER say I based it off the T17 worms?
And yes Team alpha is made using a game maker, maybe not "GameMaker" but its not programmed from scratch from a programming language, which is what I meant.

can we go back to talking about the game, instead of fighting over it?

Faraz and Plasma, don't you have better things to do than comming to this thread and start insulting someone else's game? Like, making out or whatever you guys do on your free time?:rolleyes:

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23953&page=43) and my Team Alpha (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27831&page=15).


if you do think it's a bad idea, please say why.

I might check this game out when it's done.

I like RPGs. Kind of.

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23953&page=43) and my Team Alpha (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27831&page=15).You mean learn from two projects who have been going on for about the same time (or more) than his and still aren't done even though they use GM/TGF?

Honestly, pay more attention to your own work before you go dissing the rest, or at least back up your opinion with something.

You mean learn from two projects who have been going on for about the same time (or more) than his and still aren't done even though they use GM/TGF?
The quality of a game does not depend, in any way, on how long a game may have taken to make.
Besides, his game isn't finished either.

or at least back up your opinion with something.
Yes, that's the correct thing to do if you want to show someone what they're doing wrong.

Faraz and Plasma, don't you have better things to do than comming to this thread and start insulting someone else's game? Like, making out or whatever you guys do on your free time?:rolleyes:
If you notice, the only thing I said in this thread was that his worm sprites do not look like the T17 worms; and it was him that called my game 'crappy'.

if you do think it's a bad idea, please say why.
I think what Flamie said best explains why Faraz thinks it's a bad idea:
"its not related to the worms you know in any way, the only thing in common is that the character is a worm, nothing else."

Maybe you should play it before making a judgement.

Maybe you should play it before making a judgement.
Well, as I can't unless I apply to be a tester; can you please tell us what is different than what we thought? (taking what I thought Faraz's dislike for the idea was as what he thinks)

I stand with Plasma. I never insulted you or anybody related to the game. I just said that it's the stupidest idea ever. How would it work? It wouldn't even be in the regular Worms fashion, and as you said that it's not based on the Team17 Worms, then why bother posting it? Also, provide some more information. You didn't describe the basics of the game, what it's about or anything. And I agree with Plasma; you accuse his game of being crappy when he didn't say a thing about yours. The comment was put into context.

The reason I think this idea is stupid is because who would wanna play as Worms running around a town collecting items and battling in FF-style fights. That takes the whole fun out of Worms. And again, if it's not based on T17 Worms, why post it? Most people here are fans of those Worms, not these. :-/

I stand with Plasma. I never insulted you or anybody related to the game. I just said that it's the stupidest idea ever. How would it work? It wouldn't even be in the regular Worms fashion, and as you said that it's not based on the Team17 boards, then why bother posting it? Also, provide some more information. You didn't describe the basics of the game, what it's about or anything. And I agree with Plasma; you accuse his game of being crappy when he didn't say a thing about yours. The comment was put into context.

The reason I think this idea is stupid is because who would wanna play as Worms running around a town collecting items and battling in FF-style fights. That takes the whole fun out of Worms. And again, if it's not based on T17 Worms, why post it? Most people here are fans of those Worms, not these. :-/

Your second and third sentence there are completely contradictory. To sugest an Idea is stupid and therefore unworkable is quite an insult to someone who has obvioulsy spent quite a lot of effort and time developing said idea.

I'm sure that Flamie has nothing against Plasma and his crappy game, As you correctly point out Plasma said nothing to provoke such an attack on his crappy game. It was, however, your EXTREME arrogance that did. If anything you should apologise for your quite frankly stupid outburst.

You are completely right about this thread being offtopic. It has nothing to do with Team17 at all. It shouldn't be posted here. This thread should be in online orgy.

The reason I think this idea is stupid is because who would wanna play as Worms running around a town collecting items and battling in FF-style fights. That takes the whole fun out of Worms. And again, if it's not based on T17 Worms, why post it? Most people here are fans of those Worms, not these. :-/Well the worms' look (on the shop screens and such) and weapons are based on the Team17 ones.

And by your logic, I could say your game is the stupidest idea ever because it has forumer sigworms go around in a platform/adventure fashion, which is nothing like the Team17 Worms games. Even Team17 has created complete spinoffs like Addiction Pinball and Worms Blast, and they still sold well.

If you don't like RPGs, that's your opinion, but it doesn't give you the right to call someone's work "the stupidest idea ever". It has all the elements necessary for a RPG, and by golly, if they decided to use worms instead of humans, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. You couldn't adapt the Worms' battle system with an RPG genre without creating a completely different thing. I'm not even an RPG fan, yet I still aplaud them for coding and getting out something different from any Worms fangame.

Dislike:
Booooring... (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=2)
Wierd Battle Engine (I suppose it is the battle engine) (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=6)
Cities? And what's more is that you're playing Worms not humans, so if you're gonna make a city, at least have it the right size, or have some signs that point out this is a Worms style city, such as in the 2D Worms where stuff was huge. (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=7)
Not a big problem, but I don't think there should be blood. (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=12)
Grey. (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=1)
Like:
Very Wormsy like. (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=17)
Great 3D. (http://www.wormsrenegade.com/index.php?p=screenshots&id=4)

I'm sure there are more good things and bad things but I used the screenshots as a basis for now. Also, is this an online RPG or an MMO?

You're judging a battle engine on a screenshot?
I don't see a problem with the blood and can't understand why you don't like it. I've never seen a med pack in a shop and yet sucessful game companies use it all the time in their games.

Personally I don't like the grey worms but that's not really an important aspect of the game.

Making a worms RPG isn't a stupid idea at all. Sure, it's been done a lot but that's no reason for it not to be done again. I would rather play a worms RPG than a poorer quality worms game because the latter is far more comparable to the actual game.

(geez I'm turning nocturnal)

Plasma, faraz, he asked for testers, not opinions. You are off-topic.

Personally I don't like the grey worms but that's not really an important aspect of the game.

If I'm not much mistaken, the grey worms are the ones of the race 'Evil Worm'. The rest are pink, I think.

I all up for testing!
I play loads of MMORPG's like Maplestory.
I would like to be called, as my name suggests, Robowurmz.

If I'm not much mistaken, the grey worms are the ones of the race 'Evil Worm'. The rest are pink, I think.
But what about the yellow ones?

I all up for testing!
I play loads of MMORPG's like Maplestory.
I would like to be called, as my name suggests, Robowurmz.
You have to go on their forum and apply
But what about the yellow ones?
... Missed those. They're probably another race

Plasma, faraz, he asked for testers, not opinions. You are off-topic.deja vu (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=28407)

I would apply to test it but I'm going to be quite busy over the next 6/7 weeks.

theres 6 different races of worms you can pick from when you create your character, I'm not gonna say why bbecause it would spoil the later-coming story line.
The npc's aswell all kinda look different. Why does any of it have to be realisitc, this is a fantasy game, so what if theres city for worms. As if worms using bazooka's was realisitc in the 1st place.
But Meh I'm not gonna bother, think w/e you want, all I know is that its been almost ayear of us coding, making art, making music, putting the whole thing together as well as we could, and personally I'm more than satisfied of the result considering our restriction (browser based etc)
And thanks for all of those who applied, the results should be up sometime next week

Is it too late to change the worm sprites?

As they don't look too good.

They look like sausages...(Do you play as the pink worms or the black worms?)

Is it too late to change the worm sprites?

As they don't look too good.

They look like sausages...(Do you play as the pink worms or the black worms?)
You choose your race at the start. (OMG SPOILER)
I all up for testing!
I play loads of MMORPG's like Maplestory.
I would like to be called, as my name suggests, Robowurmz.
Error highlighted. ;)

Also somehow I have been abducted into coding for this game :( Please send help

theres 6 different races of worms you can pick from when you create your character, I'm not gonna say why bbecause it would spoil the later-coming story line.
If there's an honest reason for the colours, then it's ok.

Why does any of it have to be realisitc, this is a fantasy game, so what if theres city for worms. As if worms using bazooka's was realisitc in the 1st place.
Nice try; but that is one trump that tends not to work on this forum.

Nice try; but that is one trump that tends not to work on this forum.

Whyever not? This is all baseless, either try it, or don't say anything.

Quoted from the FAQ on the WR website:

What is Worms Renegade
Worms Renegade is fully graphical browser-based MMORPG.
It takes place in Lumbria, a fantasy world, and it revolves around advancing thru a well developed story line by doing quests, defeating enemies, unlocking mysteries and solving puzzles.


Key word: FANTASY.
If everything that had fantasy you didnt like, then you probably hate all movies, all games.
Hell in your game, dont worms walk? Do you dislilke your own game? I cant believe people who play worms are saying that because something isnt realistic its badly done.

Key word: FANTASY.
If everything that had fantasy you didnt like, then you probably hate all movies, all games.
Hell in your game, dont worms walk? Do you dislilke your own game? I cant believe people who play worms are saying that because something isnt realistic its badly done.
No; I'm saying that if something is too unrealistic, it's badly done.

No; I'm saying that if something is too unrealistic, it's badly done.

WORMS WITH BAZOOKAS, damnit!!

because worms that walk, talk and attack each other by throwing cows at each others, sheeps, concrete donkeys, isnt too unrealistic.
Ok plasma lol

because worms that walk, talk and attack each other by throwing cows at each others, sheeps, concrete donkeys, isnt too unrealistic.
No, it's not.
I had a quote regarding this around here somewhere...

You sir, are beyond ridiculous, I suggest you stop here and not make more a fool of yourself.

No, it's not.
I had a quote regarding this around here somewhere...

:eek:

...

:D

...

:rolleyes:

Yes, of course it's realistic, why, just the other day Worms faught it out in the Battle of Backyard! It was amazing to watch, and I taped it! Take a look! :)

:eek:

...

:D

...

:rolleyes:

Yes, of course it's realistic, why, just the other day Worms faught it out in the Battle of Backyard! It was amazing to watch, and I taped it! Take a look! :)
"No; I'm saying that if something is too unrealistic, it's badly done."

You sir, are beyond ridiculous, I suggest you stop here and not make more a fool of yourself.
NOW I stop. :o

"No; I'm saying that if something is too unrealistic, it's badly done."


NOW I stop. :o

Worms isn't too unrealistic? Bloody hell, you're a fool.

Worms isn't too unrealistic? Bloody hell, you're a fool.
.....


Anyway, this topic already discussed the unrealism in a worms game:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29769&highlight=Hampster
Yes, I have a tendancy not to know when to stop!

.....


Anyway, this topic already discussed the unrealism in a worms game:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29769&highlight=Hampster
Yes, I have a tendancy not to know when to stop!

I'm going to be bold in accordance with the Shut The Opposers The **** Up campaign, and suggest you acknowledge here that you can try the game for a limited time, and THEN comment on it. Flamie if you want to kill me for this, tell me :o

and suggest you acknowledge here that you can try the game for a limited time, and THEN comment on it.
...
Am I missing something, or am I not able to play the game for a limited time?

...
Am I missing something, or am I not able to play the game for a limited time?

I was saying I'd add you as a tester with a different password for a limited time, if flamie approves.

I was saying I'd add you as a tester with a different password for a limited time, if flamie approves.
Oh, ok.
But to remind you, I never said it was a bad idea or that the game would be bad. I was arguing over that what the characters look like do matter.

Oh, ok.
But to remind you, I never said it was a bad idea or that the game would be bad. I was arguing over that what the characters look like do matter.

Wait, how does that matter? They look like Worms. I don't see what's wrong with that... o_O

Wait, how does that matter? They look like Worms. I don't see what's wrong with that... o_O
Well, as it might already have been explained before, I'm just gonna stop arguing (and giving advice) in this thread. I don't like it when I get stuck too deep into debates over very small topics.
And no, I think I'd prefer to wait for the full game to come out before I start playing it. Thanks anyway.

Well, as it might already have been explained before, I'm just gonna stop arguing (and giving advice) in this thread. I don't like it when I get stuck too deep into debates over very small topics.
And no, I think I'd prefer to wait for the full game to come out before I start playing it. Thanks anyway.

What you gave was not "Advice".

Anyway, this conversation is over. If you want to continue it, the wormsrenegade.com forums are that-a-way.

Elliot, (And Flamie) Try not to swear. This isn't Facepunch.

Elliot, (And Flamie) Try not to swear. This isn't Facepunch.

Where did I swear? And of all the things to be offended by. A word.

Shut The Opposers The **** Up campaign,

Bloody hell

Where did I swear? And of all the things to be offended by. A word.

There. Some people are touchy and easily offended.

There. Some people are touchy and easily offended.

I'm quite sure "bloody hell" has not been considered a swear word for quite a while now. And **** too. When did four asterisks become offensive?

There. Some people are touchy and easily offended.

I'm quite sure "bloody hell" has not been considered a swear word for quite a while now. And **** too. When did four asterisks become offensive?

You see? And fanatic Christians and such would consider 'bloody hell' as swearing. '****' can be considered offensive because you know what it means.

I'm not saying I'm offended, I'm just saying some other people will and report you.

I've never understood why people have such a problem with swearing. People only swear because it's "bad" and to add emphasis.

What makes **** so much worse than saying poo?

Words are not offensive, the thoughts behind them are. In this context there are no offensive thoughts.

Now then, back on topic?

Good point. Just like at the end of the "Breaking the Record" or something on South Park.

to all that applied:
The groups have been made =)

I stand with Plasma. I never insulted you or anybody related to the game. I just said that it's the stupidest idea ever. How would it work? It wouldn't even be in the regular Worms fashion, and as you said that it's not based on the Team17 Worms, then why bother posting it? Also, provide some more information. You didn't describe the basics of the game, what it's about or anything. And I agree with Plasma; you accuse his game of being crappy when he didn't say a thing about yours. The comment was put into context.

The reason I think this idea is stupid is because who would wanna play as Worms running around a town collecting items and battling in FF-style fights. That takes the whole fun out of Worms. And again, if it's not based on T17 Worms, why post it? Most people here are fans of those Worms, not these. :-/

I have played your Team Alpha game. And its the stupidest idea ever. It also plays crap, the graphics are mediocre. Who would want to run around in a horizontal line shooting things with a huge colored worm? Its lame, if i want to play a game like that I'll load Contra or something that plays thousand times better and is much cooler.

Now, you have two doors, take this as constructive criticism and say thanks to me for sharing my opinion

or

Be a hypocrite and feel offended by my words.


If you have nothing nice to say don't. And if you think you're in the position to put down his work like that then i advise you, YOU AREN'T. You are a nobody, you created a crap game probably imitating one of those Madness Interactive flash games. And you blame him for making something that has nothing to do with the original Team17 game? Irony don't ya think? After all you made a real time sidescroller. Did i mention it is crap? Oops.

The game is awesome for many reasons, and not only because it uses worms as characters but because it uses community clichés and people from the community as NPCs. Something I guess you're not into because to start with you can't even play worms properly.

The last paragraph was merely to provoke you into an argument you can't win.

I have played your Team Alpha game. And its the stupidest idea ever. It also plays crap, the graphics are mediocre. Who would want to run around in a horizontal line shooting things with a huge colored worm? Its lame, if i want to play a game like that I'll load Contra or something that plays thousand times better and is much cooler.

Now, you have two doors, take this as constructive criticism and say thanks to me for sharing my opinion

or

Be a hypocrite and feel offended by my words.


If you have nothing nice to say don't. And if you think you're in the position to put down his work like that then i advise you, YOU AREN'T. You are a nobody, you created a crap game probably imitating one of those Madness Interactive flash games. And you blame him for making something that has nothing to do with the original Team17 game? Irony don't ya think? After all you made a real time sidescroller. Did i mention it is crap? Oops.
Firstly, the only constructive critisism in your post is that a game where you "run around in a horizontal line shooting things with a huge colored worm" is a bad idea for a worms game. The rest was just non-constructive flaming; which Faraz did not do.

Secondly:The game is awesome for many reasons, and not only because it uses worms as characters but because it uses community clichés and people from the community as NPCs. Something I guess you're not into because to start with you can't even play worms properly.

The last paragraph was merely to provoke you into an argument you can't win.
If you didn't know, all of the major characters in Faraz's game were the characters some of the forumers chose to represent themselves.
So I guess that argument was easily countered.

My intentions weren't to give him constructive criticism. Not at all. I was just acting the same way he did with this post.

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion and my Team Alpha

If you call my post flame-worthy then so is his. Difference being I actually played both games so my opinion is fairly more accurate than his.

Needless to say I've been part of this community longer than you, or any of your forum pals and that i've never heard about this Team Alpha game.

That has nothing to do with the subject I guess. I just don't undertsand how him, and you, after his post wich i quoted above expect not to be flamed for it. Pretty retarded if you ask me. And hypocrite.

Not that i give a big fuss about a pair of newbie forumers whose opinion is comparable to my shoe's, but, from my humble opinion (mainly because i know nothing about programming) Flamie's game has had more effort and programming skills put into it, and the only reason why I'm saying this is because this frazza dude told Flamie to follow his games as an example. Wich is pretty amusing, considering what i said above.

Needless to say I've been part of this community longer than you, or any of your forum pals and that i've never heard about this Team Alpha game.
Your earliest post (Nov 2005) seems to show that both of us were here before you (Feb 2005 for me, and Faraz was before me). Faraz's first attempt started in July 2005, and may have already ended by the time you came.
On the other hand, you only made 5 posts before May; so you may not have seen it anyway.

That has nothing to do with the subject I guess. I just don't undertsand how him, and you, after his post wich i quoted above expect not to be flamed for it. Pretty retarded if you ask me. And hypocrite.
I still don't know what I did wrong; but I do suspect Faraz really wasn't expecting to be flamed for it.

Not that i give a big fuss about a pair of newbie forumers whose opinion is comparable to my shoe's, but, from my humble opinion (mainly because i know nothing about programming) Flamie's game has had more effort and programming skills put into it, and the only reason why I'm saying this is because this frazza dude told Flamie to follow his games as an example. Wich is pretty amusing, considering what i said above.
In all fairness, Faraz hasn't seen Flamie's programming skills; and Faraz was only commenting on how the general idea behind his game was better than Flamie's.

He wasn't just commenting on his idea being better only. He also said Flamie's idea was crap, wich is something premature (not to say stupid) to say when you have no idea what you're talking about (in this case Flamie's game)

I can't believe you're trying to twist this around. Farazaz was offensive and got answered back for it.

You might been on these forums earlier, but I'm not talking about this forum's exclusively. I'm talking about being part of the worms community. You can ignore that though, i was just merely pointing out that, for a pair of nubbies you where pretty badass on flamie.

And, i will repost this, to see if at last realize how lame he has been.

Frankly, that's stupidest idea I've ever heard. A Worms RPG. Learn something from Worms: Fusion and my Team Alpha

I'm completly missing the point on why its stupid. I mean, a worms RPG is suddenly stupid but a sidescroller isn't? I'd try to be nice, but with this much nonsense and idiocy i'd fail.

He wasn't just commenting on his idea being better only. He also said Flamie's idea was crap, wich is something premature (not to say stupid) to say when you have no idea what you're talking about (in this case Flamie's game)
Just to point out again:
The funny thing is how this thread was made a day after Faraz here said that a worms MMORPG would be the stupidest idea ever.
So it wasn't really based off Flamie's game itself, but simply based off the idea.

I can't believe you're trying to twist this around. Farazaz was offensive and got answered back for it.
Oh wait, now I know why people got offended by me.
You see, I have a broader definition of constructive critisism than most people. As I saw Faraz's comment as constructive, but premature (I can't find a better definition for it), I dismissed it as a premature comment attempting to be constructive.
I am truly sorry for the inconvenience that I may have caused.

You might been on these forums earlier, but I'm not talking about this forum's exclusively. I'm talking about being part of the worms community.
That would be very hard to be able to tell, unless one person was born after the other person got involved in Worms.
For example, when I first started playing Worms with friends, we would be considered to be part of the Worms community. But as this part of the community would have very little contact with other parts in the world except for the games themselves, we wouldn't be able to care ourselves to others in the community.
Unless you're referring to a different definition.

Farazaz was offensive and got answered back for it.



well... if someone says something bad to you... it's best not to reply by doing the same. it sounds like you're just firing back at him for no reason... if you don't like his game, maybe you should say it constructively, not just because "he did it to you first"

@plasma

The popular definition says, worms 2 online, wa online.

well... if someone says something bad to you... it's best not to reply by doing the same. it sounds like you're just firing back at him for no reason... if you don't like his game, maybe you should say it constructively, not just because "he did it to you first"

I wasn't trying to tell him I didn't like his games. The point of my post was have him realize he needs to shut up.

I wasn't trying to tell him I didn't like his games. The point of my post was have him realize he needs to shut up.



k... it just seemed that way to me, 'sall.

actually; this is the post:

I have played your Team Alpha game. And its the stupidest idea ever. It also plays crap, the graphics are mediocre. Who would want to run around in a horizontal line shooting things with a huge colored worm? Its lame, if i want to play a game like that I'll load Contra or something that plays thousand times better and is much cooler.

The game is awesome for many reasons, and not only because it uses worms as characters but because it uses community clichés and people from the community as NPCs. Something I guess you're not into because to start with you can't even play worms properly.

The last paragraph was merely to provoke you into an argument you can't win.

@plasma

The popular definition says, worms 2 online, wa online.
Oh, well then I'd most likely be a bit behind you.
Regardless, the length between then and now would still be long enough to be able to say that we are not newbies, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us that.

No problem. I'd also appreciate that before saying an idea is crap, you either obtain an educated idea of what you're criticising or point out some convincing or just well elaborated arguments on why you think a Worms RPG would be crap. This goes for you and Fraza, the former for saying so and you for basically defending him all the way until here.

No problem. I'd also appreciate that before saying an idea is crap, you either obtain an educated idea of what you're criticising or point out some convincing or just well elaborated arguments on why you think a Worms RPG would be crap. This goes for you and Fraza, the former for saying so and you for basically defending him all the way until here.
Is this acceptable (for my defence only; Faraz did not reply):
I think what Flamie said best explains why Faraz thinks it's a bad idea:
"its not related to the worms you know in any way, the only thing in common is that the character is a worm, nothing else."

That's what I ment with an inaccurate idea of the game, and that's why he shouldn't comment. I'll try to explain you with an example. Theres a shop called Komodo's artillery, (Komodo is one of the best if not the best Bngers that currently play worms) and even though the shop isn't complete I'm pretty sure it will sell Bazookas, Grenades, and the such. So that "nothing else" in your quote is inaccurate.

That's what I ment with an inaccurate idea of the game, and that's why he shouldn't comment. I'll try to explain you with an example. Theres a shop called Komodo's artillery, (Komodo is one of the best if not the best Bngers that currently play worms) and even though the shop isn't complete I'm pretty sure it will sell Bazookas, Grenades, and the such. So that "nothing else" in your quote is inaccurate.
Again, we (I amn't going to deny that I thought it wasn't the best idea either, for the reason I explained above) were commenting on the idea of a worms RPG, not on the game itself.

So then the last quote you quoted yourself is there because....? To calrify things, you are commenting on Flamie's game:

I think what Flamie said best explains why Faraz thinks it's a bad idea:
"its not related to the worms you know in any way, the only thing in common is that the character is a worm, nothing else."

Stop trying to twist things, a sorry to Flamie is in place. If not i don't intend to carry this any further, if you don't like the idea of a Worm Rpg start a thread about it, posting it in this thread will obviously cause the author, his friends and whoever has a bit of common sense to be upset.

haha I thought this topic died a long time ago ;P But damn lol nice going ropa and talking to them the same way they talked to me, I guess now they can understand how idiotic they were being ;D

First of all, Who the hell are you Yakuza? Beta tester?
Second, I'm not insulting Flamie's game, just the idea. Read the date:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/658/p1np5.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/157/p2sv3.jpg

Also, Did you miss this? (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=527783&postcount=27)

And about Team Alpha, yes, the program is outdated AND the programming is outdated compared to what I can do now, but I still stand by it. Plus it was all made by just me, but that's not really a factor as there are amazing games made by one person.

its made with a game maker*

It's times like these I wish there was a option to ban users from threads.

First of all, Who the hell are you Yakuza?

Hahaha, that made me laugh. Honest. Newb.

Look, there is no need to twist this around, you don't like the idea, you've been caught also commenting on the game itself (don't make me go quote) and it all was negative comments. Fair enough, could be treated as constructive criticism, but since you have no idea about the game and your opinions are inaccurate it can only be taken as offensive.

So just leave the thread, go back to work on your crap game (I'm still laughing that you put your games as an example by the way) and just get lost.

I beg you, please, do not post again saying how you where only commenting on the idea. If i went to your game thread and said "Worms walking on a horizontal line shooting things, that's the stupidest idea ever" you would also be offended.

To be honest, i was going to end the thread here, but i can't believe how you can use "I JUST DON'T LIEK THE IDEA LOL" as an excuse to hide your obvious flame attempts, are we forgetting the idea was also made/chosen by the author?

C'mon newb.

Newb.

C'mon.

Stop trying to twist things, a sorry to Flamie is in place. If not i don't intend to carry this any further, if you don't like the idea of a Worm Rpg start a thread about it, posting it in this thread will obviously cause the author, his friends and whoever has a bit of common sense to be upset.
And stop right there!
I challenge you to find me all the things I did (not what faraz did, he can have his own moment) in this thread that someone involved in this game would find offensive.
In return, I shall find all the things people involved in this game did to me in this thread.

I'm not talking about you exclusively, i don't have the time nor i'm willing to go in search of quotes. Farzaz and/or you said offensive things, whether you did or not you both are still defending Farzaz, so whatever he said you must agree with.

I'm not talking about you exclusively, i don't have the time nor i'm willing to go in search of quotes. Farzaz and/or you said offensive things, whether you did or not you both are still defending Farzaz, so whatever he said you must agree with.
No; I already explained that:
Oh wait, now I know why people got offended by me.
You see, I have a broader definition of constructive critisism than most people. As I saw Faraz's comment as constructive, but premature (I can't find a better definition for it), I dismissed it as a premature comment attempting to be constructive.
I am truly sorry for the inconvenience that I may have caused.

Enough of the flaming now.


*Thread closed*

I'm getting sick of these threads turning into flamewars - the next one that gets created may be deleted. And, any flaming in further threads will result in infraction points/being watched statuses being issued.


Clear?