I love N, it's a great game. Quite a long time ago i visited the maker's site (Metanet Software (http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/)) and downloaded the proper version. And i was absolutely thrilled with the built-in map editor in it.

To this day I still enjoy using the editor (entitled Ned, N-ed?...EDitor? get it?) quite alot, and i make alot of maps. But i'm really interested to see if any forumers have made any good maps (if any have played the proper N yet)

For those who haven't, please click the link i have posted above and dowload the bloody game! It's great, and it has won awards for it's amazing physics engine.

For those who want to know how to use the map editor and load up maps from others. Read the various READMEs that come with the game.

When i next make a good map, i'll submit it here.
And if any of you have any good maps, please submit them here.

EDIT: Link to NUMA. You have to make an acount there to submit a map on this thread. If you just post the text in a post here the map won't work and will just come out deformed.
NUMA (N user maps archive) (http://numa.notdot.net/)

Blinx used to make loads of cool maps, I think they're on some N maps site or something.

Blinx used to make loads of cool maps, I think they're on some N maps site or something.
NUMA?

Anyway: Here's a tileset i made. I'm gonna make a level out of it now.
But anyone feel free to load it up and make your own level out of it as well. I don't mind anyone using it.

Just thought i'd tell you, it was inspired by pixel art (but it isn't actualy pixel art of course)

I call it;
ISOMETRIC CITY TILESET
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Yah, it was on NUMA, just can't remember his username there.

MAP COMPLETE!

A completely original Action map. Which is what most of my maps are like as that is the game type i know most about.

Isometric City
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NOTE: Oliver is what i call myself in my map names.

First to complete it gets a Ded! (dedicated map)

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And Oft, the ninja starts trapped in the top section of that level whenever I try to play it.

I'd recommend you attach you map's in a text format.

I used to play this game loads.

http://numa.notdot.net/browse?sort=created&order=desc&author=SecretMachine

My maps. :)

And Oft, the ninja starts trapped in the top section of that level whenever I try to play it.
hang on a sec...
EDIT: WTF!?!?! why does everything look all deformed, the map isnt suposed to look like that. i'll resubmit the text...hang on...

and blinx: what do you mean?

EDIT2: just need to test this a sec myself.

Isometric City
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EDIT3: WTF! I don't get what the hell is wrong. I'll make a NUMA acount and post a link, that should work.

Isometric City-NUMA link (http://numa.notdot.net/map/53987)

It's fine now. Play it!

Very nice map there, Oft!

I used to play N alot. But then I found love within GoldenEye 007 and N slowly started to faaaaaade...to faaaade...

EDIT: Watch me ***!
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Space Encounter- NUMA link (http://numa.notdot.net/map/53993)

jah jah jah.

EDIT: @ Faraz: As mine did, that map just turns out wierd. Make a NUMA acount and submit it there.
I'll make a link to the NUMA homepage up in the top post.

Goto Debug mode and put the map code in the first box and the demo code in the second.

Goto Debug mode and put the map code in the first box and the demo code in the second.
doesn't work i'm telling you.
What demo?

doesn't work i'm telling you.
What demo?
The code I put there was a demo of me playing on your map :rolleyes:. Press ~, Put the map code in the first box, and put
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In the 2nd box. Then look for "Play demo" on the menu. I think there's a key for it.

The code I put there was a demo of me playing on your map :rolleyes:. Press ~, Put the map code in the first box, and put
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In the 2nd box. Then look for "Play demo" on the menu. I think there's a key for it.
Ohhhhhhhh!!!
Sorry, i thought it was another level.

EDIT: please state what map it's for.
i put it on isometric city. what happened was you imediately started running left, then you stop against the doors protecting the switch on top of the building and the gauss turret kills you.
Is this meant to happen, or is it on the wrong map?

I played N once. It was awesome!

Mind you, I only played it once, and never again...

I have trouble dedicating myself to any game I didn't spend money on.

Blinx used to make loads of cool maps, I think they're on some N maps site or something.

Cheers mate. :)

Ohhhhhhhh!!!
Sorry, i thought it was another level.

EDIT: please state what map it's for.
i put it on isometric city. what happened was you imediately started running left, then you stop against the doors protecting the switch on top of the building and the gauss turret kills you.
Is this meant to happen, or is it on the wrong map?
Yeah, I died. :p :p

I don't get it, how do i make my own maps?
very cool game though, i like those kind of games, this should keep me ocupied for awhile when i'm bored of maple story

I don't get it, how do i make my own maps?
very cool game though, i like those kind of games, this should keep me ocupied for awhile when i'm bored of maple story

Press §.

Here are a few I made back in the days:
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I don't get it, how do i make my own maps?
very cool game though, i like those kind of games, this should keep me ocupied for awhile when i'm bored of maple story
first you have to of downloaded the full version of the game from metanet.

Now read the READMEs.

If you can't be bothered, hit / in the main menu to access the debug menu. The look for the letter in the list of commands to load an empty map. Now hit E to edit the map etc... Just read the READMEs though.

first you have to of downloaded the full version of the game from metanet.

Now read the READMEs.

If you can't be bothered, hit / in the main menu to access the debug menu. The look for the letter in the list of commands to load an empty map. Now hit E to edit the map etc... Just read the READMEs though.
ooo i did it!
thanks for helping.
here is my map (http://numa.notdot.net/browse?sort=created&order=desc&author=Heroms)is anyone wants to try it out, it's preety challanging :P

ooo i did it!
thanks for helping.
here is my map (http://numa.notdot.net/browse?sort=created&order=desc&author=Heroms)is anyone wants to try it out, it's preety challanging :P
92.050
And on my first go, too. It's way too easy.

92.050
And on my first go, too. It's way too easy.
eh i suck at making maps..let's see some of yours...

eh i suck at making maps..let's see some of yours...
I made an "experimental" level in a previous post.

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Just need to see if it works...
EDIT: hmmmm, doesnt work
well, the first bit does but i dont stop and do nothing against the wall like that... ill try submiting it on NUMA.

Ouch..that hurt my ears..once u die the robot goes crazy and makes alot of noise...
edit: oh yeah Plasma, your level is impossible..the laser always get's me on the second tramp no matter what i do....

oh yeah Plasma, your level is impossible..the laser always get's me on the second tramp no matter what i do....
Try to stay at the right when you hit the column of springs.