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Error404
13 Jul 2006, 05:08
Oh yes... better late than never... ;)

First of all i have to thank everybody that voted for me and everybody that tried so hard to win but didn't... HA! Just kidding... you've (almost) all made some really good pictures that would most likely beat mine... even without vote strategies and evil plans... :D

I'd like to take this space to set some rules for the competitions to come. You're more than welcome to disagree and discuss them:

• The entry must have been released after the first day of the current month (no old art allowed). It doesn't matter if it took you 2 minutes or 2 years to draw it. If you released it after the start of the current month, it's valid.

• The host of FOTM can't entry or vote for the current competition. Hence he'll be able to cast the final vote if a draw happens.

• The winner gets a request picture done by the host of the current month. The complexity and the time the host will have to draw the picture are to be set between the winner and the host after the competition ends.

Good luck and like the old Larry (from SNES' Rock'n Roll Racing) use to say:

LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN!

WormGod
13 Jul 2006, 07:54
Are we ever going to have a theme for our entries? :p

Slick
13 Jul 2006, 10:31
Yes, you and only you wormgod, have to make a pickel eating a bar of soap.
This is to celebrate Team17's newest game coming out - Pickel Patty* :cool:

It's about time you made this thread Error. *Kicks in shoulder*

philby4000
13 Jul 2006, 13:50
http://www.deviantart.com/view/36189170/

That's the firt time I've ever entered a contest before it's even started.:p

MtlAngelus
13 Jul 2006, 17:11
http://www.deviantart.com/view/36189170/

That's the firt time I've ever entered a contest before it's even started.:p
*ka-ching* Wiinner!

Cisken1
13 Jul 2006, 22:11
I quit...



AAAFLAAALGAGAGAGAGAAA

Akuryou13
14 Jul 2006, 13:48
I'm still giving this one a shot regardless of Philby's uber entry of unholy doomage.....expect another entry from me everyone can tear to shreds with criticism. :D

Kelster23
15 Jul 2006, 02:29
http://www.deviantart.com/view/36189170/

That's the firt time I've ever entered a contest before it's even started.:p
Hooray for the 'under the chin' view. I find that really hard on humans...but I'm just to ignorrant to look at drawings and learn...

AndrewTaylor
15 Jul 2006, 14:46
I'm just to ignorrant to ... learn
That's a vicious circle...

Do you have a camera? Do you have a chin?

BuffaloKid
15 Jul 2006, 14:53
I would enter one of these competitions, but I'm not good at computer drawn worms, and I can only make my hand-drawn ones look good by copying Slick's style exactly. And that doesn't help me get good, or at least original.

Mr.cosmico
15 Jul 2006, 15:28
I am entering this as soon as I install Photoshop and PSP again, ...and my scanner. :p

Kelster23
15 Jul 2006, 16:50
That's a vicious circle...

Do you have a camera? Do you have a chin?
Why would I take a picture of my chin? I just look at manga pictures! But never copy them down :D

Paul.Power
15 Jul 2006, 16:52
Why would I take a picture of my chin?So you can see what the underside of a chin looks like, duh.

Gardy Looo
15 Jul 2006, 16:53
I might enter, but the problems with my computer don't allow me to do so. I did, however, make one big piece of art I might enter it if I can.

Error404
15 Jul 2006, 20:18
So you can see what the underside of a chin looks like, duh.
We have mirrors for that, you know... :p

Snoozy
15 Jul 2006, 20:25
Mirrors easily betray you... mankind invented the camera to deal with their tricky plans! :p

BuffaloKid
15 Jul 2006, 20:31
Mirrors easily betray you...
Indeed. Just look at the classic carnival 'Hall of Mirrors'. And that mirror in Harry Potter. Or ask all the people who look at themselves in the mirror and say 'I'm not that fat... am I?'

SuperBlob
15 Jul 2006, 20:36
*looks in a mirror* I'm not that fat, am I?

Snoozy
15 Jul 2006, 20:42
Grab your camera and find out :p

Slick
15 Jul 2006, 21:28
For this thread I advise the following:
Spam - we need less
Entrys - we need more

Thats about it. And again, if a mod could sticky this, t'would be appreciated.

Thnikk
16 Jul 2006, 02:29
I've got an entry, if anybody needs an entry... you need an entry? 'Cause I got one...
"So these two worms walk into a bar..." (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36375082/)
As noted in the description, big thanks to Error for help with it...

Akuryou13
16 Jul 2006, 03:52
I'm stepping my entry above and beyond the things I've done before by a LONG shot. this month, I honestly think I may, possibly, stand some chance of having someone say "nice!" and mean it.

but for now, here's a preview:

Plasma
16 Jul 2006, 13:52
I've got an entry, if anybody needs an entry... you need an entry? 'Cause I got one...
"So these two worms walk into a bar..." (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36375082/)
As noted in the description, big thanks to Error for help with it...
Heh heh. Everyone likes a group pic!

Paul.Power
16 Jul 2006, 18:53
Watch out for overgrown blue slugs and strange red things with teeth coming from my direction.

WormGod
16 Jul 2006, 19:22
That doesn't sound too bad.

Kelster23
16 Jul 2006, 22:02
That doesn't sound too bad.
The slug looks like a tidal wave, and unless I'm colorblind, that thing ain't red!

BuffaloKid
16 Jul 2006, 22:05
I was hoping someone would say that. I though I might be going crazy. It's pink, isn't it? More specifically, the mouth of a worm.

Kelster23
16 Jul 2006, 22:36
I was hoping someone would say that. I though I might be going crazy. It's pink, isn't it? More specifically, the mouth of a worm.
Peachish?!

Error404
16 Jul 2006, 23:45
I must believe he was refering to the tongue... :rolleyes:

Thnikk
17 Jul 2006, 00:46
Watch out for overgrown blue slugs and strange red things with teeth coming from my direction.
Wait a minute... you just described Bloopy's sigworm and the Kool Aid guy!

MtlAngelus
17 Jul 2006, 06:06
I've got an entry, if anybody needs an entry... you need an entry? 'Cause I got one...
"So these two worms walk into a bar..." (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36375082/)
As noted in the description, big thanks to Error for help with it...
Wooo Everlong! I love that song.
Great pic man.

Pigbuster
17 Jul 2006, 06:34
Howdy.
Congrats, Error.
I thought that you'd win.

Thanks to all who voted for me.
I'd like to get my entry done, but I think that I'll let it wait until August. I need to finally get a scrolling engine for my flash game going, I need to finally bring my comic from the dead... all that.

And for those wondering, my soul's back. It's cool.

Alien King
18 Jul 2006, 21:57
Post to subscribe to thread.

Oh, and nice entries.

[UFP]Ghost
19 Jul 2006, 03:22
u don't need to post to subscribe in the bar under post reply it has thread tools click it and in the bar that comes down click subscribe to thread :P

Alien King
19 Jul 2006, 09:34
Ghost']u don't need to post to subscribe in the bar under post reply it has thread tools click it and in the bar that comes down click subscribe to thread :P

Yes. But that involves me looking for a button. I know exactly where the 'post reply' button is. I have little reason to use the thread tools bar often, so I need to look for it.

[UFP]Ghost
19 Jul 2006, 13:05
touche ;)
BP

Akuryou13
19 Jul 2006, 13:09
probably shouldn't be bothering to try at this point, but here's my entry anyway. while I think it's a huge improvement, I'm sure I'll get the same complaints regardless :p

anyway, here's my first fanart compo entry with actual perspective!!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36550779/

Plasma
19 Jul 2006, 13:18
probably shouldn't be bothering to try at this point, but here's my entry anyway. while I think it's a huge improvement, I'm sure I'll get the same complaints regardless :p

anyway, here's my first fanart compo entry with actual perspective!!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36550779/
I can easily say that it's the best art you've done, that I can remember.

Although I kinda feel that something may be lacking from it, but I dont know what.

Akuryou13
19 Jul 2006, 13:26
Although I kinda feel that something may be lacking from it, but I dont know what.may be the plainness of the walls, which is due to the fact that I couldn't think of anything at all to put there as I wanted only one light source to add emphasis on the barrier and keep it the center of attention.

Plasma
19 Jul 2006, 13:30
may be the plainness of the walls, which is due to the fact that I couldn't think of anything at all to put there as I wanted only one light source to add emphasis on the barrier and keep it the center of attention.
Probably so.
Or else it's just that the top left us empty.

SupSuper
19 Jul 2006, 14:09
probably shouldn't be bothering to try at this point, but here's my entry anyway. while I think it's a huge improvement, I'm sure I'll get the same complaints regardless :p

anyway, here's my first fanart compo entry with actual perspective!!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36550779/Ohhh, special effects extravaganza. If that was a Hollywood movie, you'd be a hit ;)

Akuryou13
19 Jul 2006, 14:41
Ohhh, special effects extravaganza. If that was a Hollywood movie, you'd be a hit ;)yes, I like to think that my art appeals to the majority of TV and Movie viewers...only thing I'm missing is porn :p

SupSuper
19 Jul 2006, 14:42
yes, I like to think that my art appeals to the majority of TV and Movie viewers...only thing I'm missing is porn :pWell you have drawn a lot of worms with breasts. :p

MtlAngelus
19 Jul 2006, 17:35
Now you need to focus on composition and expresions of the characters :p
Also, using equally sized lines on everyting makes for a very dull look.

Alien King
19 Jul 2006, 18:23
All the worms have roughly the same headshape which doesn't change with the expression. It looks weird.

Akuryou13
20 Jul 2006, 03:56
Also, using equally sized lines on everyting makes for a very dull look.I'm using Fireworks MX and vectors to draw my worms, I can't really draw them well otherwise, and there's no way to really make the lines bigger and smaller along the same vector...

Error404
20 Jul 2006, 04:25
You actually can... it's harder, but it's doable...

You gotta draw the lines as if they were shapes. I did that in Photoshop once. First i used the pen tool to create a shape covering all the inner part of the drawing (without cover the outlines). Then i drew another shape covering up the outlines, on the very outter border of the drawing. Finally, i used one of PS's tools that fills only the interference of the 2 shapes... at that point, i had a vector shape who covered only the outlines, and, therefore, allowed me to edit the thickness of the outlines wherever i wanted to. :)

Even if you don't want to do that (i gotta admit it might be too much of a hassle to do everytime), you can just try to loosen your style a whole bunch.

MtlAngelus
20 Jul 2006, 05:05
I'm using Fireworks MX and vectors to draw my worms, I can't really draw them well otherwise, and there's no way to really make the lines bigger and smaller along the same vector...
Well then, you can try and find a style that works better with vector lines, like having the outlines be wider than the rest of the lines in the characters. Something more stylish.

philby4000
20 Jul 2006, 09:19
To reiterate what I said on DA, GIVE US SOME INTERESTING POSES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

If you can draw a worm's tail at a different angle then surely tou can at least make them lean a bit.

Your worms look like they're sliding along the ground like its an ice rink.:p

You say you're trying to improve, and lord knows you have, but you're going about it all wrong. You should be concentrating on the shape, style and expression of your worms, rather than the shading and lighting side of it all.:p

And don't say you're too lazy. Because if you were lazy you wouldn't have improved at all.

Akuryou13
20 Jul 2006, 13:24
To reiterate what I said on DA, GIVE US SOME INTERESTING POSES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

If you can draw a worm's tail at a different angle then surely tou can at least make them lean a bit.

Your worms look like they're sliding along the ground like its an ice rink.:p

You say you're trying to improve, and lord knows you have, but you're going about it all wrong. You should be concentrating on the shape, style and expression of your worms, rather than the shading and lighting side of it all.:p

And don't say you're too lazy. Because if you were lazy you wouldn't have improved at all.now those are things I can actually care about. I'll look into that whole area in the future, as I don't think the outlines being a specific width effect the image that much and that you other guys are just looking for something to complain about :p honestly, why does it even matter if the outline is the same width all around? look at other artists, most others keep a thin line of about the same width all the way around, sure, it deviates, but rarely enough to really tell unless you're zoomed in or studying it intently for no reason.

and error, this is fireworks, not photoshop, there's a difference. even if it's POSSIBLE to do what you're talking about, I've never heard of it and don't know how to do it myself even if I was worried about the outlines enough to actually care to try.

SupSuper
20 Jul 2006, 14:04
I think the point is you don't have to use the same outline width for everything. Well you don't HAVE to, but it makes things look better. Usually backgrounds have a lower thickness (or even no outline) than characters and outer outlines are thicker than inside outlines. It helps give stuff contrast, perspective and what not. I'm not sure, I'm not an artist. :p

And if you look, it's usually more noticable on hand-drawn work than computer work since it's a bigger bother to do on computer work.

If Fireworks is anything similar to Flash, it shouldn't be too hard to just select a line and change its width. Or if you wanna have a varying width (much more advanced) you can usually pull it off by having a different shape for the outline and another for the content. More info online.

Akuryou13
20 Jul 2006, 14:36
If Fireworks is anything similar to Flash, it shouldn't be too hard to just select a line and change its width. Or if you wanna have a varying width (much more advanced) you can usually pull it off by having a different shape for the outline and another for the content. More info online.fireworks is similar in some ways, but not all. I've seen varying vector widths on flash, but never from fireworks. granted, if someone can suggest a way that's worth the effort I might consider doing it just to shut you whiners up, as I honestly don't see what the big deal is about something like that....on the other hand, I could possibly try making the worms' outlines thicker, but the lines I use now are already 1-pixel, so I can't make the background lines smaller.

SupSuper
20 Jul 2006, 15:35
I think the minimum width value is 0.25.

Thnikk
20 Jul 2006, 15:43
I think the minimum width value is 0.25.
For Flash. Fireworks' minimum is 1, as far as I can tell.
And nice pic Aku. The worms could stand some work (the one doing the fire-punch type thing looks a bit like he's using cables to fly up like someone on TV... looks a bit weird), but the fireball/energy blasty stuff is awesome.

SupSuper
20 Jul 2006, 16:28
Oh. In any case, my trick to create variable width vectors is to just copy+paste the shape, resize it a bit bigger than the original, make it black, put it behind the original and then just nudge a bit. Example:

28174

Well looking at it, I'm on your side since I don't really know how to use variable width properly so I just stick to fixed width. Though removing outlines can also have a neat effect on, say, backgrounds, specially if things are properly coloured so you don't need them. Say, you could remove the "corner outlines" from your background and it'd give it a more 3d feel.

MtlAngelus
20 Jul 2006, 18:37
:p honestly, why does it even matter if the outline is the same width all around?
It makes all the difference, really, even with the slightest variations.

Error404
20 Jul 2006, 21:10
and error, this is fireworks, not photoshop, there's a difference. even if it's POSSIBLE to do what you're talking about, I've never heard of it and don't know how to do it myself even if I was worried about the outlines enough to actually care to try.
I'm sure there is a way on Fireworks. But mind that i won't install a program that i don't use frequently just to figure out a way for you to do that. No offense.
I think the point is you don't have to use the same outline width for everything. Well you don't HAVE to, but it makes things look better. Usually backgrounds have a lower thickness (or even no outline) than characters and outer outlines are thicker than inside outlines. It helps give stuff contrast, perspective and what not. I'm not sure, I'm not an artist.
You're absolutely right.
if someone can suggest a way that's worth the effort I might consider doing it just to shut you whiners up, as I honestly don't see what the big deal is about something like that
Then, don't do it... you shouldn't do anything to shut any whiners up. You should do stuff that make your work better for you. If you think your skills are excellent now, there isn't much hope for you. That's why i quit trying to help AgentLuke... he draws a stain, call it a worm and think it's absolutely marvelous... people like that don't have much future... :rolleyes:

Akuryou13
21 Jul 2006, 00:02
Then, don't do it... you shouldn't do anything to shut any whiners up. You should do stuff that make your work better for you. If you think your skills are excellent now, there isn't much hope for you. That's why i quit trying to help AgentLuke... he draws a stain, call it a worm and think it's absolutely marvelous... people like that don't have much future... :rolleyes: I see that I have skill enough to draw a decent picture, I don't, by any means, think I'm alll that great.......I'm just not you :p (reference to the fact that you think you suck, but you don't at all)

SupSuper
21 Jul 2006, 00:07
You're absolutely right.:eek:
he draws a stainYou actually have to draw a stain? :p

Pigbuster
21 Jul 2006, 03:57
I think the point is you don't have to use the same outline width for everything. Well you don't HAVE to, but it makes things look better. Usually backgrounds have a lower thickness (or even no outline) than characters and outer outlines are thicker than inside outlines. It helps give stuff contrast, perspective and what not. I'm not sure, I'm not an artist. :p
Error said so, but yes, you are right.
Basically, if you want the reader to focus on something, you give it a thicker outline.

Akuryou13
21 Jul 2006, 13:29
Error said so, but yes, you are right.
Basically, if you want the reader to focus on something, you give it a thicker outline.that one I'll keep in mind, but I still find most of the complaints on the line thickness to be pointless, so I'll not be listening to them or further complaints there-on. :p

MtlAngelus
21 Jul 2006, 18:41
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!11l!!1:p

Error404
21 Jul 2006, 19:11
that one I'll keep in mind, but I still find most of the complaints on the line thickness to be pointless, so I'll not be listening to them or further complaints there-on. :p
Bear in mind that i don't make complaints, i give suggestions... take them at your own will and risk... ;)

Ok, now this' getting rather far into the offtopic land... let's refrain from posting crap here, shall we? ;)

pinoocho
26 Jul 2006, 21:54
Im almost hopeless, but...

Entry (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36951444/)

SupSuper
26 Jul 2006, 21:56
Lol, love it! :)

philby4000
26 Jul 2006, 23:14
Nice visual gag.:D

shadowman
26 Jul 2006, 23:29
Carnege! Whoooo

pilot62
27 Jul 2006, 10:06
Im almost hopeless, but...

Entry (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36951444/)Ha, it's very telling of the quality in this thread that that picture doesn't stand much of a chance, because it's very good.

Slick
27 Jul 2006, 11:06
Ha, it's very telling of the quality in this thread that that picture doesn't stand much of a chance, because it's very good.
Well now it got my vote. Way to go. :p

Oh yeah...and my entry...I think I'm just to lazy to do one for this month.

Paul.Power
27 Jul 2006, 11:09
Im almost hopeless, but...

Entry (http://www.deviantart.com/view/36951444/)That's bloody good, that is.

maveristef
27 Jul 2006, 12:28
Well now it got my vote. Way to go. :p

Oh yeah...and my entry...I think I'm just to lazy to do one for this month.

Oh I knew I should have entered this month.

shadowman
27 Jul 2006, 15:31
Was mine really that bad? No comments? You people do hate me. :p

philby4000
27 Jul 2006, 16:47
Fine, why is he smiling despite being in obvious pain?

shadowman
27 Jul 2006, 16:48
It seemed fit.
He's smiling because...
um...
ITS CUTE!
Nope, can't think of a reason, but it does kinda make it look funnier.

philby4000
27 Jul 2006, 16:53
It would probably have worked beter if you placed the worm in the center of the picture, or at least not cropped away half the knife.

shadowman
27 Jul 2006, 16:54
Well, I was gonna make him on fre at first, so the position he's in my just my stupidity.
DOn't ask why I feel like killing my guy, because II don't have an answer.

Plasma
27 Jul 2006, 22:07
or at least not cropped away half the knife.
That was a knife?

Splapp
28 Jul 2006, 12:35
I feel like doing something for this. However, my 2 week absense means i've barely got any time left... so, I might do something for, say, March 2007's thread. Or maybe August.

WormGod
28 Jul 2006, 13:45
I feel like doing something for this. However, my 2 week absense means i've barely got any time left... so, I might do something for, say, March 2007's thread. Or maybe August.

NO WE'RE DOOMED

IN BOTH MARCH AND AUGUST

Mr.cosmico
30 Jul 2006, 23:51
*appears from nowhere*
*sneaks to this thread*

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/437/compopichc9.jpg
or
http://www.deviantart.com/view/37166665/

My entrryyyy :)

*runs away*

(Yes, it has more game characters than just worms. I felt like making a big character party wee pic. Oh snap.)

Liketyspli
31 Jul 2006, 00:15
http://www.deviantart.com/view/37166665/
(Yes, it has more game characters than just worms. I felt like making a big character party wee pic. Oh snap.)
Dude, you get my vote because of the kirby. j/k. ill see where i vote on. but u got a change. great work

Error404
31 Jul 2006, 02:04
To those who are wondering, i'm hell busy so i didn't enter here much during the past week and it'll likely remain like that until further notice.

So i'll probably create the poll during the afternoon of August 1st (notice that i'm on GMT -3:00 here). All entries shall be posted here before i create the poll.

Good luck to all you that didn't finish it yet and intent to participate... ;)

Akuryou13
31 Jul 2006, 02:28
there are what? 3 entries this month? is it even worth voting? :p

MtlAngelus
31 Jul 2006, 05:11
WeeeeeEEEeeEeEEEeeeEEEEEeeeééÉÉstuff.

There, make your poll now.

WormGod
31 Jul 2006, 07:15
there are what? 3 entries this month? is it even worth voting? :p

Seven, actually.

Philby must win. If he doesn't, it's the end of the world as we know it.

Paul.Power
31 Jul 2006, 08:59
I have my half finished Slorg-vs-Foobos picture, but I think I'll wait 'til next month.

WormGod
31 Jul 2006, 13:48
I have my half finished Slorg-vs-Foobos picture, but I think I'll wait 'til next month.

You FOOL!

You ruined the surprise!
Now you'll never win!

Paul.Power
31 Jul 2006, 14:03
You FOOL!

You ruined the surprise!
Now you'll never win!Wasn't that much of a surprise, anyway.

It was the destroyed city in the background that was putting me off finishing on time...

Slick
31 Jul 2006, 16:08
I could make a quick entry while my laundry is washing, but it would be of poor quality and very stupid.



*gets to work*

SupSuper
31 Jul 2006, 16:14
More stupid than Angelus' entry?

pinoocho
31 Jul 2006, 16:27
http://www.deviantart.com/view/37166665/

My entrryyyy :)

Well, now Im hopeless :p

Slick
31 Jul 2006, 17:51
More stupid than Angelus' entry?
Yes
LAUNDRY IS ALMOST DONE!
oh, and here it is. :p
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37204711/

farazparsa
31 Jul 2006, 18:54
Slick, you really should use a preloader.

Vader
31 Jul 2006, 18:58
I love the animation on the "That's why" worm... beautiful.

You've made me jealous.

*searches internet for pre-punched paper*

Plasma
31 Jul 2006, 19:12
LAUNDRY IS ALMOST DONE!
LAUNDEREY 4 TEH WINN!!!

And nice entry, *insert competetor's name here*

SupSuper
31 Jul 2006, 21:10
Slick, you really should use a preloader.If you need a preloader, either your connection or your browser sucks.

Liketyspli
31 Jul 2006, 22:52
Meh, no colour (well not much).... no shades... baaad slick. ;)

farazparsa
1 Aug 2006, 01:56
If you need a preloader, either your connection or your browser sucks.
Yeah, My connection sucks. My browser rocks though; FireFox for life!

thomasp
1 Aug 2006, 20:39
Vote here: http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30007


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