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Zasz
20 Jun 2006, 22:23
how about a Worms FPS (i talked about this before) based on WWII?
you can still control a customizable team of 8 worms, but you control one at a time, and when you die, you become another team member. when everyone on your team dies... you lose(all members of your team will be active at the same time). wardrobe customization would be limited to stay on theme, but you can choose what weapons your team (or each member of your team) has based on the nationality you choose for your worms (i.e. English, French, American, Japanese, German, Russian, Polish, Italian, Ukranian, i can go on all day).
even better: it will go online
for this style game, i would like to see it on the Playstation 3, or Xbox 360 (i prefer the Playstation 3).
Id be surpized to see Team 17 really make anything for the Wii. Worms Forts and Worms Mayhem did not come out for gamecube; i think Team 17 ditched Nintendo (besides, while the motion sensetivity would be nice, the lack of buttons would be crippling).

Plasma
20 Jun 2006, 22:44
how about a Worms FPS (i talked about this before) based on WWII?
you can still control a customizable team of 8 worms, but you control one at a time, and when you die, you become another team member. when everyone on your team dies... you lose(all members of your team will be active at the same time). wardrobe customization would be limited to stay on theme, but you can choose what weapons your team (or each member of your team) has based on the nationality you choose for your worms (i.e. English, French, American, Japanese, German, Russian, Polish, Italian, Ukranian, i can go on all day).
even better: it will go online
for this style game, i would like to see it on the Playstation 3, or Xbox 360 (i prefer the Playstation 3).
Id be surpized to see Team 17 really make anything for the Wii. Worms Forts and Worms Mayhem did not come out for gamecube; i think Team 17 ditched Nintendo (besides, while the motion sensetivity would be nice, the lack of buttons would be crippling).
So, you're pretty much saying that you want another WWII FPS, exactly like all the others made, but with worms as soldiers...

AndrewTaylor
20 Jun 2006, 23:04
Id be surpized to see Team 17 really make anything for the Wii.
So would I. Partly because I'd be astonished if they released something like that on any platform ever, but mostly because "W:WWII Wii" would be too confusing for words.

For the record, Team17 have not "ditched Nintendo". The decision not to release for GameCube was made by publishers, and publishers are smart enough not to "ditch" any one company. They'll fund development for any console they think they can turn a profit on.

Zasz
20 Jun 2006, 23:43
So, you're pretty much saying that you want another WWII FPS, exactly like all the others made, but with worms as soldiers...

yeah... but it would be worms, so it would be funny!!
...how you get a WWII game to be funny we dont yet know, but im sure Team 17 could do it.

p.s. the team and customization stuff would make it slightly differentiated from other WWII games.

SupSuper
21 Jun 2006, 01:19
and publishers are smartThey are? News to me. :rolleyes:

Rabble
21 Jun 2006, 02:59
So, you're pretty much saying that you want another WWII FPS, exactly like all the others made, but with worms as soldiers...


Yes! But make it real time stragey and 3D!

MtlAngelus
21 Jun 2006, 03:59
It doesn't need worms to be funny... They might as well make a funny fps with entirely new characters; that has more chance of ever comming out.

Plasma
21 Jun 2006, 11:19
yeah... but it would be worms, so it would be funny!!
I can picture it now:

[Zasaz] "Hahahah! Did you just see how I killed that Jew? Friggin' hilarious!"

AndrewTaylor
21 Jun 2006, 11:49
...how you get a WWII game to be funny we dont yet know, but im sure Team 17 could do it.
Rare did a good job on the war secion of Conker's Bad Fur Day. Blackadder Goes Forth was excellent, and let's not forget Catch 22. Nobody likes to admit it much, but war is a pretty good subject for humour, if it's done properly. Even Charlie Chaplin made fun of it. Heck, the original Worms game had a good laugh at war. Clearly it's something Worms can do.

I just think that taking an established series, forcing it into a new genre, and then branding it around a world war is probably more controversial than it would be worth -- odds are the game would be seen (very possibly correctly) as a cheap way to cash in. And cashing in on the success of Worms is fair game, but cashing in on World War II is not. If you base a game, or a film, or a book on a war, you have to make sure it's seen to be done very well and/or very tastefully.

I reckon you'd get away with it once, if you used new, human characters and made a good job of it, though. Well, if you could find anyone adventurous enough to publish such a thing.

Paul.Power
21 Jun 2006, 23:06
Rare did a good job on the war secion of Conker's Bad Fur Day. Blackadder Goes Forth was excellent, and let's not forget Catch 22. Nobody likes to admit it much, but war is a pretty good subject for humour, if it's done properly. Even Charlie Chaplin made fun of it. Heck, the original Worms game had a good laugh at war.

And that's before we even bring in unintentional or incidental humour, for which (say) the original Medal of Honour game was amazing.

"Attention American commando. You are surrounded, and there is no escape. Throw down your weapons now, and you will be treated with charity and kindness..."

That and the attack dogs playing "Fetch" with grenades were worth the admission price alone.

Zasz
22 Jun 2006, 02:07
well, the more and more i think about it, the more and more im starting to find the WWII theme iffy. it is, after all, a taboo subject in Germany (or i think it is anyways).
i guess it could be classic worms theme, but we would still need a fully destrucable environment. that would be cool.

Fizz
22 Jun 2006, 03:15
Hi Zasz and others,

The fully destructible environment in a real time game would be hard to do and eventually people would be running towards eachother for that last bit of land lol :D, would be entertaining to watch the struggle for survival though.

iamgood
23 Jun 2006, 14:47
Yes! But make it real time stragey and 3D!
Lol, seriously, FPS'es have always been 3D, simulated or not but that's not the point, and I can't see in front of myself an FPS that's 2D. Seriously.

(Yeah, I know you just wrote wrong, just wanted to point out you did!)

AndrewTaylor
23 Jun 2006, 16:57
I can't see in front of myself an FPS that's 2D. Seriously.
VirtuaCop was 2D. The graphics were 3D, but the gameplay was 2D, and that's what counts, by any reasonable definition.

Squirminator2k
25 Jun 2006, 11:13
This thread is delicious.

Zasz
25 Jun 2006, 19:24
2d FPS games are unlikely to ever appear again considering the power of the upcoming systems.
unfortunaly, i do see a problem with destrucable evironments in real time (for the AI).
maybe destructable terrain could be a multiplayer feature only...

Squirminator2k
25 Jun 2006, 21:58
2d FPS games are unlikely to ever appear again considering the power of the upcoming systems.
Maybe you should tell Namco and Sega, who both have Lightgun-based "2D fps" games in the works.

unfortunaly, i do see a problem with destrucable evironments in real time (for the AI).
maybe destructable terrain could be a multiplayer feature only...
The AI in Timesplitters: Future Perfect seems to cope with it fine.

AndrewTaylor
26 Jun 2006, 01:36
The AI in Timesplitters: Future Perfect seems to cope with it fine.
Much like the AI in Red Faction did. It was never fully deforming terrain a-la Worms, but then, I don't think that would be a good thing to have in an FPS. It'd make it too easy to get stuck, or to make missions impossible, and make good level disign nigh-on impossible.

KamikazeBananze
4 Jul 2006, 15:11
That's happened to me in W3D before. Jetpacked into an object, got stuck.

But WWII Worms is... no. There's no point. There are FAR too many WWII games flooding the market. What attention would one more get?

On the subect of deformeable terrain: Maelstrom by KD Labs is an RTS with, as far as I can tell, fully destructible terrain, a lá their previous title Perimeter.

But, no. Worms in WWII is bad.