Hokay, I don't know how many of you watch much TV, but I was just curious what the ODers enjoy in terms of television.

As for me, I've been really into 24 and House lately. 24's format is GREAT, and I absolutely love Hugh Laurie's character of House.

24 was indeed great, back in the first few series. Series four was one of the worst drama series I have ever watched; 18 hours of pure car crash TV. Series five may or may not turn out well. The episode before last was a steaming pile of... well, you know what steams if you pile it up, but it might redeem itself yet. It's had its moments.

Never seen House.

Lost's been good lately, but it's dropped off a bit the last couple of episodes. Also, Doctor Who has, as ever, demonstrated that all the writers should be fired except for Steven Moffatt, who should be commissioned to do the whole series by himself.

I hate 24.

House rocks too. It's like Scrubs with Dr. Cox as the main character. Well, not really.

And I watch most of what goes on in FOX, like Lost (meh), Invasion (meh), O.C. (sucks so bad), Desperate Housewives (sucks not as bad but still bad), Family Guy (woo), Las Vegas (woo) and Simpsons (ewww, new seasons). I'm just that bored.

Doctor Who's been pretty good, in a "still better than 99.9% of the stuff out there" way.

I watched the first episode of the new series of New Tricks before I returned to uni, and keep forgetting to watch the later episodes. But it's still a lovely programme.

Aside from that... well, the cricket was going quite nicely until we randomly started dropping tons of catches...

Never seen House.
I require that you watch it. I think you would really enjoy it.
Family Guy (woo)
You know, Family Guy seems to be getting really old. It's always the same old thing. They don't really even try at a plot anymore, it's all just "Remember that time that I..."

South Park has been really great lately, interestingly enough.

I watch the following:

Lost
Prison Break
The O.C
24
Desperate Housewives

I get them as they come out in the US though, via unspecified means (hehe), so i'm ahead of what they show over here.

Andrew: season 5 of 24 is a lot better than season 4. Possibly the best season yet in fact - a lot happens in the first episode to set the tone for the rest, including 2 major deaths. As for season 2 of Lost, it is mostly quite tame and marginally eventful, but there are a few excellent episodes that do some explaining. One involving [I've deleted this bit in case I'm not the only person who wants to discover these things by actually watching the programme. -- Andrew] plotline to come up as well.

Season finale of The O.C is on as we speak (well, as i type) in the US!

::Edit:: Only a month until the new seasons of Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis also!

Andrew: season 5 of 24 is a lot better than season 4. Possibly the best season yet in fact - a lot happens in the first episode to set the tone for the rest, including 2 major deaths.
I agree, Season 5 has been great.

Local tv is teh suk. 3 words: Mexican Soap Operas. Can't get any worse than that :x
They show movies on weekends, but they're allways dubbed, so that suks too.
The only thing worth watching is The simpsons, Dragon Ball Z (lol), and Smallville. And soccer games too.
I need cable tv Y_Y.

You know, Family Guy seems to be getting really old. It's always the same old thing. They don't really even try at a plot anymore, it's all just "Remember that time that I..."Well even if it's not great, it's still better than most of the other stuff that FOX puts on display.

Green Wing.

'Nuff said.

TV sucks now.

I require that you watch it. I think you would really enjoy it.
If SupSuper's synopsis is anywhere near the mark I probably will. Scrubs is one of the best programmes ever.

South Park, too, has been pretty consistently excellent.

Andrew: season 5 of 24 is a lot better than season 4. Possibly the best season yet in fact - a lot happens in the first episode to set the tone for the rest, including 2 major deaths.
Yes, but there have been at least five principal characters killed off this year in increasingly stupid ways. It's like they're doing it because it's an easier way to shock people than actually writing clever drama. In fact, I suspect it's exactly like that. It's only better than series four because a testcard would have been better than series four, which as I mentioned was perhaps the single most abysmal 18 hours of television produced in a very long time.

The best series is the first, and the next best is the third. There is probably nothing the fifth can do from here on that will even claw its way into second place.

As I say, I'm reserving judgement until I see how the new plot development pans out, but until then please don't tell me what it is or how many people die as a result of it.

As I say, I'm reserving judgement until I see how the new plot development pans out, but until then please don't tell me what it is or how many people die as a result of it.
Just out of curiosity, what episode are you on? In the US, the season finale is on Monday.

everyone dies

Just out of curiosity, what episode are you on? In the US, the season finale is on Monday.

everyone dies
Episode 17 is on on Sunday. In plot terms, we've just found out how high up the conspiracy goes.

TV sucks now.
I second that. But everything is starting to suck now. Maybe I'll have to start reading books...or do somting with my life.

...what a dark future.:(

I second that. But everything is starting to suck now. Maybe I'll have to start reading books...or do somting with my life.

...what a dark future.:(I'll say, reading books sounds pretty terrible. ;)

I like watching:

The Simpsons
Malcom in the Middle
Scrubs
Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex (on German MTV)
Spongebob Squarepants

And occasionally:

Las Vegas
CSI
Columbo

Kind of off-topic, but have any of you noticed that they have decided to stop making good movies? It was kind of an odd decision, seeing as those are the kinds of movies that I would spend money to see.

Kind of off-topic, but have any of you noticed that they have decided to stop making good movies? It was kind of an odd decision, seeing as those are the kinds of movies that I would spend money to see.
Yeah, that was a bad decision on the movie studios' part.

I like watching:

The Simpsons
Malcom in the Middle
Scrubs
Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex (on German MTV)
Spongebob Squarepants



Pretty much the same for me, except I only ocasionaly watch the simpsons anymore, and I don't have german MTV.

I like watching:

The Simpsons

I'm not going to rehash a whole thread when I can just link to it... http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18353

I'm not going to rehash a whole thread when I can just link to it... http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18353
Let's just wait and see what the movie is like before we write Homer off :) (July 27th, worldwide release date)

Let's just wait and see what the movie is like before we write Homer off :) (July 27th, worldwide release date)
No, I think that's the stupid way around. I'll watch the free-to-view TV version, form an opinion, and if I like what I see, which I don't, I'll pay to see the film. I'm not going to pay to see a film which I have every reason to assume is utterly abysmal, am I? I'm not even planning on watching it when it's on free-to-view TV. I've given The Simpsons a perfectly adequate chance and it has repeatedly proved to me that it is awful. That's it. No more.

To be fair, they have been working on the movie for a good long time, and as such will hypothetically have had enough time to make the plot and humor a sight better than it currently is in the weekly shows.

Hypothetically.

To be fair, they have been working on the movie for a good long time, and as such will hypothetically have had enough time to make the plot and humor a sight better than it currently is in the weekly shows.

Hypothetically.
Well, I don't care. I'm not watching it, and I'm not watching the Red Dwarf movie either, for precisely the same reasons.

Yes, but there have been at least five principal characters killed off this year in increasingly stupid ways. It's like they're doing it because it's an easier way to shock people than actually writing clever drama.
While I agree that there is an excess of deaths and a couple of them were unnecessary, I think that it has provided a good backdrop for the intensity of the season.

That said, 24 is always intense.

And yes, episode 15 was crap. "RUN FROM THE EXPLODING FLAMES JACK AND MAYBE IF YOU GET IN THE CAR THEY WON'T HURT YOU EVEN THOUGH THE TANK OF GAS IS TEN FEET AWAY" Usually, an episode allows you to suspend disbelief just enough to work its magic, but that was ridiculous.

Also, this amused me a little bit:

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Not just unnessecary -- implausible. I can only suspend so much disbelief before it gets to heavy and I have to drop it, and the episode with the last couple of major deaths drove a dump-truck of disbelief to my door, tipped it all over my lawn, and said "could you hold this for a few hours?", at which I said no and laught at its haircut. I mean, the whole thing made almost no sense at all.

Edit: Speaking of Lost, here [http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4815162342 (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29258)] is a thread with a person called Des, who calls everyone "brother", and who apparently does nothing but enter island codes into computers all day.

Just me who watches New Tricks, then (or will when I get home and catch up with the ones my parents have taped).

I watch Lost, Prison Break, South Park, Family Guy, American Dad and Scrubs. However... what is this TV you mention?

Not just unnessecary -- implausible. I can only suspend so much disbelief before it gets to heavy and I have to drop it, and the episode with the last couple of major deaths drove a dump-truck of disbelief to my door, tipped it all over my lawn, and said "could you hold this for a few hours?", at which I said no and laught at its haircut. I mean, the whole thing made almost no sense at all.
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Are you talking about how Christopher woke up and stabbed Tony in the stomach? Yes, that was stupid and incredibly ridiculous. Were there other deaths in that episode as well that I am forgetting?

Warning: this post contains spoilers
Are you talking about how Christopher woke up and stabbed Tony in the stomach? Yes, that was stupid and incredibly ridiculous. Were there other deaths in that episode as well that I am forgetting?
That's the one. They killed off Lynn as well in a way which, while theoretically reasonable (assuming you accept all the stupid stuff that had happened up to that point in the episode) was a total cliché.

That's the one. They killed off Lynn as well in a way which, while theoretically reasonable (assuming you accept all the stupid stuff that had happened up to that point in the episode) was a total cliché.
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Cliché, yes, but it wasn't awful. It was obvious that they wanted to get rid of Lynn because he is completely supplanted by the stronger character of Karen Hayes in the next few episodes. Karen provides a substantially more interesting character than the rather boring and one-dimensional Lynn. I think it was a necessary death.

I found it humorous, though, that I cared about the nameless security guard more than Lynn during that sequence.
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If you think what's happened so far is awful, just wait until episode 20, where Jack escapes from the rapidly depressurizing cargo hold of an airplane by pulling on the cords that control the plane's flaps, which he exposes by cutting open a panel in the ceiling of the hold. Seriously.

Karen? All I've seen from her is the old CTU Takeover Boss who wants to add nine layers of bureaucracy before anyone is allowed to do anything. I've seen that a hundred times. And it's the third takeover of CTU in fifteen hours. That's madness. No organisation gets through three bosses in fifteen hours.

Karen? All I've seen from her is the old CTU Takeover Boss who wants to add nine layers of bureaucracy before anyone is allowed to do anything. I've seen that a hundred times. And it's the third takeover of CTU in fifteen hours. That's madness. No organisation gets through three bosses in fifteen hours.
Her character develops more in the upcoming episodes, trust me.

I wish they'd hurry up and kill off Chloe O'Brian.

Are you kidding? She's the best bit.

She's inappropriately blunt.

Edit: I mean, from a drama point of view she's nothing special, but since series 4 I haven't been taking it at all seriously, and viewd in that light she's fantastic.

LOST finale tomorrow DUN DUN DUUNNNNNUNUNUNUNUN

LOST finale tomorrow DUN DUN DUUNNNNNUNUNUNUNUN
Not here. Here we're trapped in the early stages of series 2. If you want to post stuff about anything past that, could you flag it up like FutureWorm did?

Are you kidding? She's the best bit.

She's inappropriately blunt.

Edit: I mean, from a drama point of view she's nothing special, but since series 4 I haven't been taking it at all seriously, and viewd in that light she's fantastic.
I really like her character, but the actress who plays her is simply awful. She always has the exact same expression on her face, no matter what.

I really like her character, but the actress who plays her is simply awful. She always has the exact same expression on her face, no matter what.
http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk/katewarner.jpg


(From my brother's site: http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk)

http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk/katewarner.jpg


(From my brother's site: http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk)
Your brother is brilliant. I really like how he uses Nixon for Logan's face in the Season 5 diagrams.

Your brother is brilliant. I really like how he uses Nixon for Logan's face in the Season 5 diagrams.
I loved the pictures for Alvers and Amador in this one: http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk/0200.gif

Just out of curiosity, does he enjoy the drama of 24 or does he just like to laugh at it?

I think that depends which series he's watching. The first three series he definitely watched for the drama. He's got most of the DVDs now. I can't recall if he bothered to buy series four.

Well I know we have the stupid channel 4 schedule, I just got impatient and downloaded up the yank schedule.

I loved the pictures for Alvers and Amador in this one: http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk/0200.gif
Reminds me of something (http://lohanfacial.ytmnd.com/).

Reminds me of something (http://lohanfacial.ytmnd.com/).
You quoted the wrong thing. :p

Andrew, you're brother is a genious. Truly.

Andrew, you're brother is a genious. Truly.
your brother is a genius, but I digress.

Ugh, two typos in one short sentence. My only excuse is the time of the post.

Ugh, two typos in one short sentence. My only excuse is the time of the post.
Yeah, what were you doing up at four in the morning anyway?

Apparently using the forum.

We're good, but I don't think we're quite that compelling.

Well I'd tell you the real reason but you'd likely be shocked and would never look at me and Liam the same way again, sweetie.

Well I'd tell you the real reason but you'd likely be shocked and would never look at me and Liam the same way again, sweetie.
Oh God, I cannot believe this. Please say you're joking.

edit: what the hell is wrong with me

(From my brother's site: http://handydiagrams.take24.co.uk)
Tell your brother he is awesome.
On second thought, don't. That would sound kinda creepy.

At the moment I watch CSI and all the variations and all the similar shows like Criminal Intent and Bones, as well as Malcolm In The Middle, Desperate Housewives, My Name Is Earl...

My favourite shows are a few British funnies which haven't been on lately (Shooting Stars, Harry Enfield, The Young Ones, Father Ted), along with The Sopranos and South Park.

Tell your brother he is awesome.
On second thought, don't. That would sound kinda creepy.
While you're at it, tell him to make the graphs for 11-12 and 12-1. :p

Who would have thought it, Doctor Who defeating satan.........

Peter Kay is the next Who villian? F*CKING YES!!

Peter Kay is the next Who villian? F*CKING YES!!
Personally, I think Peter Kay is a complete tit. But then, I think Simon Pegg is something of a legend, and his episode wasn't up to a right lot, so who can say...

Torchwood, Torchwood, Torchwood, Torchwood. We get the message. I wonder what they want the Doctor for?

What the hell is torchwood about anyway?

And that episode was tosh, Peter Kay carried the whole thing. And the "we have a bit of a love life too" comment......she is a face on a paving slab....how did Russel Davis get away with that?!

Peter didn't carry it alone. The weedy guy did a lot of it. But the episode wasn't about the Doc, specifically, was it? I thought that comment about "a bit of a love life" was a bit silly but I would let it escape. It fit the tone of the ep.

Torchwood is an investigative body that researches, disassembles and recompiles alien hardware and information. It was set up by Queen Victoria and apparently has lived at least until the year 43000. I can't remember if there were any references in the New Earth ep in the year 5'000'000'028. Captain Jack is heading up a murder investigation team that belongs to Torchwood in a spin-off series when the current series of the Doc finishes.

And that episode was tosh, Peter Kay carried the whole thing.
I thought it rather odd that his human form had a southern accent and his alien form had a northern accent. David Tennant, of course, is the other way around.

It wasn't a bad programme, in its way, but it wasn't really what I expect from Doctor Who -- it didn't really need him in it at all. Which can be good or bad, depending on the execution and on my mood. It did seem very slow, though -- we all knew that Kay was some kind of evil alien, and it still took ages to build up to the reveal. The sci-fi plot was only about five minutes' material, and the romantic plot was only really another ten. The bit with Jacky was quite good, but didn't actually connect to either other plot in the slightest. At 7:40 I was almost convinced it would be a two-parter with most of the actual plot next week.

All said, considering the monster was the result of a competition for nine-year-olds and the writing was the product of a professional writer I would have thought the latter would be better than the former.

That episode was absolutely brilliant.

From the scooby-doo homage at the start to the disgusting slab sex at the end.:D

It was ridiculous to the extreme.

That episode was absolutely brilliant.

From the scooby-doo homage at the start to the disgusting slab sex at the end.:D

It was ridiculous to the extreme.
Meh. Give me The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances any day. You can keep your Love And Monsters.

Meh. Give me The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances any day. You can keep your Love And Monsters.

Amen to that. This coming weeks episode looks interesting, I just wish they would move the stories away from earth, over 70% of series 2 has been set on earth, whereas most of series 1 was set in places like satellite 5 etc.

Prison Break looks good so far, it just started here.