Hi there,
two month ago, I bought a Ge Force 6600GT because my old card(ATI Radeon 9500) was broken. But with the GeForce, I have some problems.
It seems that this game is too old or so. All menu pages build up very slowly although when I play it runs with normal speed. Does anyone know this problem and is able to help me? With the ATI it worked.

Thanks

Hi there,
two month ago, I bought a Ge Force 6600GT because my old card(ATI Radeon 9500) was broken. But with the GeForce, I have some problems.
It seems that this game is too old or so. All menu pages build up very slowly although when I play it runs with normal speed. Does anyone know this problem and is able to help me? With the ATI it worked.

Thanks

I have this same problem too, menus are very slow-- but my game doesnt start either :confused:


My system specs are: GeForce 6800GT, Athlon64 3800+, 1.5GB RAM, Windows 2000

bonz: give them omegadrivers address.

-->www.omegadrivers.net (http://www.omegadrivers.net)

Thanks. I knew you would do it.

Thanks. I knew you would do it.
you say jump, i say how high :D

I have this same problem too, menus are very slow-- but my game doesnt start either :confused:


My system specs are: GeForce 6800GT, Athlon64 3800+, 1.5GB RAM, Windows 2000

Theres your problem, win2000. i have the same 3800+ (venice), 6800gt gs and 1 gb RAM. with winXP pro SP2 the menus run fine.

Theres your problem, win2000. i have the same 3800+ (venice), 6800gt gs and 1 gb RAM. with winXP pro SP2 the menus run fine.

Are you running the Omega Drivers or older nVidia drivers (60-series) or newer nVidia drivers (70-series) with your 6800 GT? I'm guessing it's not the newest nVidia drivers, but I had to ask.

I've been in contact with both Team17 support and nVidia on this menu slowdown problem and have yet to see any resolution. The support tech I was talking to said he experienced no slowdowns when running the game with the newest nVidia drivers (77.72). I haven't had the same luck, however.

Is anyone running the 77.72 drivers with usable menu speeds? (Not that people running the game without problems would be cruising the support forums...)

I've got the same problem too, it came along with the installation of my GeForce 6600GT. Forceware 77.72 doesn't change anything. Seems as if the Graphics Card is not used until the match starts, so that the CPU has to do all the work... so it might need a patch of the game, not any changes to the forceware, i guess.

I've asked Team 17 support for help on this matter again. It's only going to get resolved if people keep making noise about it. I'll post to this thread if I get any answers.

im currently running 6.1.3.6 -i think thats the gainward driver - but cant be garanteed. I used to run the 7.**** drivers and still had no problems but have formatted since then. I used to be running on a Athlon 2800+ overclocked - changed last week to a Athlon 64 3800+. What CPU are you running? I got slowdown on WA menus once but i cant remember what i did to get it - never had any problems since or before and i started playing on a P166...

What CPU are you running? I got slowdown on WA menus once but i cant remember what i did to get it - never had any problems since or before and i started playing on a P166...

I'm running Pentium 4 2.8, but I don't believe that it's behind the problem I'm experiencing here. The problem lies with the drivers for my nVidia 6600GT. I have no menu slowdown with 60-series drivers and major slowdown with 70-series.

The game ran beautifully before I upgraded my drivers. I don't want to roll back to the old versions because there have been performance boosts in recent versions for other games I play, like Half-Life 2.

I have no menu slowdown with 60-series drivers and major slowdown with 70-series.


I've experienced no changes with any drivers, the problem existed since the first usage of my 6600gt in May, the user "hrrarrlm", a good friend of mine, had the same experience. except from the 6600gt we have completely different hardware.

i just decided to install the nvidia 7.**** drivers again - now have slow down in both WA, WWP and when viewing avi /mpeg files. Time to find some new drivers it seems :D

i just decided to install the nvidia 7.**** drivers again - now have slow down in both WA, WWP and when viewing avi /mpeg files. Time to find some new drivers it seems :D

Bummer. While I'm certainly not happy that you're having driver issues, it *is* good to know that I'm not the only one experiencing WWP / 70-series driver conflicts.

I directed the Team 17 support personnel to this thread to show them that my incident wasn't an isolated one. Haven't received a response yet, but I'll keep everyone posted.

Mark me down as having slow menu but great gameplay speed also. 77.30 drivers. 6800GT. The map editor section is unusable.

But they are actually fixing it. Deadcode is solving / has solved this issue on WA, so you just have to wait for it to be available to WWP users.

But they are actually fixing it. Deadcode is solving / has solved this issue on WA, so you just have to wait for it to be available to WWP users.

Good to hear, I registered on the forum for the exact same problem. :cool:

But they are actually fixing it. Deadcode is solving / has solved this issue on WA, so you just have to wait for it to be available to WWP users.

That's fantastic news. :) They haven't replied to my queries in awhile, so I'd assumed the issue had just been swept under the rug. No disrespect to Team 17 developers, but with newer 3D versions of Worms out I figured they just couldn't allocate the resources.

i hope they do get it sorted soon, its irritating the life out of me having to wait for these menus to come up.
ive had this problem for quite a while but didnt think it was the gfx card drivers at all doing it until i read this thread.

heres hoping for a sharpish solution to it

:)

soon
i think you got something wrong.
deadcode supposedly fixed it for himself, it hasn't been released for w:a yet.
and the version of the patch compatible with the wwp cd could well come in years.

have you tried www.omegadrivers.net?

i think you got something wrong.
deadcode supposedly fixed it for himself, it hasn't been released for w:a yet.
and the version of the patch compatible with the wwp cd could well come in years.

have you tried www.omegadrivers.net?

Eesh. That doesn't sound good.

bonz, the only problem with the current Omega drivers is that they're based on the 66.93 Detonator drivers from nVidia. I think those drivers are from March or so. I play games like Half-Life 2 that have seen bug fixes and performance improvements on nVidia's end since March. I think current nVidia drivers are at release 77.72.

It seems like nVidia somehow broke compatibility with a function that the WWP menus are using after the 66.93 drivers. Of course, they can't fix the problem because they don't have a copy of the game in their library. I spoke to an nVidia tech on this very issue.

I hope Team 17 is working on a fix or at the very least can send a copy of WWP to nVidia so they can fix it.

you cant use the current omega drivers and run BF2, as that game needs newer drivers than th 66.93's.

So, where's the patch for WWP?
I've downloaded the latest SP1, but my menu is still so slow.
Video ASUS N6600GT, WinXP SP2.
What must I do?

no solution yet.
you probably have to wait a long time till the "w:a/wwp wormnet merging combo patch" shows up on the horizon.

edit:
well one solution:
get w:a!
it's cheap, you'll have beta patches right now and the "slow menu problem" will get solved soon.

OK, thanks, I think it's a good idea to buy w:a.

Omega drivers 1.6693 Geforce 6600 not supported!!! :(

i bought a new system with a gf6600gt last week,
and now have that "slow menu" problem too.

i don't think that i will revert back to omegadrivers (66.93) as i now am up to 77.77 already. :p

but actually, i couldn't care less, because i can play w:a,
which only has some white flickering on text fields & buttons.

Same issue here - new NVidia video card, new drivers.

I'm just glad to see that it's NOT JUST ME that has this issue. Although yeah - the game takes forever to load/show up.

Any short-term workarounds? I've tried lowering screen resolution, lowering my colors from 24-bit to 16-bit or 8-bit, nothing seems to work.

I have the version of the game from Sold-Out software - their website seems to have vanished too.

:(

-Chris

Chris,

I don't know of any workarounds for the problem apart from reverting back to the 66.93 drivers, which isn't acceptable in my eyes.

I also have the Sold-Out Software version of WWP, but even if you could find their web site, I doubt they'd have anything to do with supporting the game. They're a bargain-bin reseller, as far as I know.

I haven't had much luck convincing Team 17 or nVidia to fix the problem. The former seems to be ignoring me at the moment. The latter doesn't have a copy of the game. I'm pretty sure nVidia could fix the problem in the next driver release if Team 17 would send them a copy of the game to install.

As it is, nVidia has no way of reproducing the bug. Maybe I'll go rattle the Team 17 cage again...

I'm pretty sure nVidia could fix the problem in the next driver release if Team 17 would send them a copy of the game to install.

As it is, nVidia has no way of reproducing the bug.

To which address should I ship WWP CD ?

hmm...
although i have the "slow menu" problem, it doesn't actually take me forever to load.
the transitions between the menus are just a bit longer; about 2-3 seconds.
so it is still playable i think.

i have an athlon xp 3200+ cpu though.

Seita,

To which address should I ship WWP CD ?

I'm not sure that I would send a CD without first coordinating with a support engineer at nVidia. If the corporate office gets the game CD and doesn't know what to do with it, they're likely to toss it, or file it in the wrong place.

If you do decide to contact nVidia and try to send them a CD, here is contact info:

NVIDIA CORPORATE OFFICE:
2701 San Tomas Expressway
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Tel: 408-486-2000
Fax: 408-486-2200

- OR - (in France)

14 Place Marie Jeanne Bassot
92593 Levallois Perret Cedex
France
Tel: +33 (0) 1-55-63-84-90
Fax: +33 (0) 1-55-63-85-10

from - http://www.nvidia.com/page/contact_information.html

Keep us posted if you decide to move forward with this.



bonz,

hmm...
although i have the "slow menu" problem, it doesn't actually take me forever to load.
the transitions between the menus are just a bit longer; about 2-3 seconds.
so it is still playable i think.

i have an athlon xp 3200+ cpu though.

The lag in the menus is almost bearable, but the lag in keystrokes when trying to type to someone on WormNet is awful. I could almost live with the bug apart from that.

~ Matt

Seita,



I'm not sure that I would send a CD without first coordinating with a support engineer at nVidia. If the corporate office gets the game CD and doesn't know what to do with it, they're likely to toss it, or file it in the wrong place.

If you do decide to contact nVidia and try to send them a CD, here is contact info:

NVIDIA CORPORATE OFFICE:
2701 San Tomas Expressway
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Tel: 408-486-2000
Fax: 408-486-2200

- OR - (in France)

14 Place Marie Jeanne Bassot
92593 Levallois Perret Cedex
France
Tel: +33 (0) 1-55-63-84-90
Fax: +33 (0) 1-55-63-85-10

from - http://www.nvidia.com/page/contact_information.html

Keep us posted if you decide to move forward with this.



bonz,



The lag in the menus is almost bearable, but the lag in keystrokes when trying to type to someone on WormNet is awful. I could almost live with the bug apart from that.

~ Matt

Actually, I though you had already coordinated with them. I don't own a nvidia, so I'm not that much concerned, I was just offering to send a CD to them.

By the way, I live in Germany at the moment.

Dear all,

I've Geforce 5700 128 MB, but the game didn't work at all, please support me as soon.

I've sent an email to Team17's tech support folks explaining the situation, and pointing them to this forum posting/thread.

-Chris

I've sent an email to Team17's tech support folks explaining the situation, and pointing them to this forum posting/thread.

Chris,

Could you please keep us posted here if/when you hear back from Team 17?

I hope you have more luck motivating them than I did. I went back and forth over email with a support engineer for awhile after making my support request. He eventually suggested that I try the newest nVidia drivers, which he claimed to have no problems with.

The newest drivers haven't solved the problem for me, though, and I haven't received any replies since that suggestion. Maybe I should file another support request on the same issue.

Maybe I should just drop the issue and pick up Worms Armageddon. I've heard that it doesn't suffer from menu slowdowns, especially with the beta patches applied. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

~ Matt

add me to this list... friends and I really enjoy this game (got it recently since it's so cheap now!) and I've the only PC that has slow menus. Thought it might have been the AMD CPU (others are all pentiums) but I also have the only 6600GT... two others use geforce4 variants and one a radeon 9600SE - no problems on those.

game runs fine... just those menus and typing :rolleyes:
and hosting... but im off to read up about that ;)

Yes, we need a patch for nvidia cards out asap!

I'd just like to mention that I'm having the same issue, with a MSI GeForce 6600 Diamond (not GT) video card (both ForceWare drivers that came with card and latest give me the same result) and AMD Athlon XP 2200+ processor, on Windows XP Professional SP2. Looking forward to a patch. :)

I tried a GeForce 2...(AAAH! GeForce2!) and it works perfectly... but with the newer ones...

i have a geforce 6800gt and I had the bug but then one day it went away....I have no idea how....Ill try to find out how, unless someone can tell me what I did.

hmm...
the usual suspect is a gf 6600 with forceware newer than 66.93.

gf2 mx & gf4 ti 4200 worked fine for me on both w:a & wwp.
with my new gf6600 i get the "slow menu" bug in wwp & "flickering buttons" in w:a.
(the latter has been fixed already & will appear in the next beta update)

Same problem here.

Win2K SP4, 5900 Ultra, 71.89 drivers, works fine.

WinXP SP2, 6800Go (Laptop), 77.24 drivers, menus super-slow.

I wonder if it is a problem with the 6xxx and 7xxx cards and the newer drivers, specifically?

Team17, heeeelp!

Of course there is a problem !
We want a solution !!!! Please Help !!!!

We want a solution !!!!
a few options:

downgrade to an older driver version
install a different graphics card
buy worms armageddon (will get patched with next beta upgrade there)
wait until the final v4.0 patch is here

I've been having this problem ever since I bought a GeForce 6600GT OC.

I just recently was viewing another thread about someone's CPU shooting up to 100% and the menus being slow. I tried it, and those two things seem to be related. My menus are incredibly slow and my CPU is at 100% while the intro/menus are up.

So, perhaps there is something that the GPU should be doing but the work is instead being passed to the CPU, which doesn't do a very good job of handling the load???

I don't know. I'm kinda thinking about switching to W:A anyway, since (apparently) the problem has been fixed with it, it's more customizeable, more people play it, etc. I really miss playing shoppa online :)

And maybe it's just me, but after looking through this thread it appears that virtually all the people with the problem have a 'gt' card (ie 6600gt or 6800gt). I didn't see any vanilla 6800s on here.

Upon browsing through nvidia's site, there is one major difference b/t the vanilla cards and the gt cards: GDDR3 RAM.

That doesn't seem like it would make a huge difference. Strange.

I don't know. I'm kinda thinking about switching to W:A anyway, since (apparently) the problem has been fixed with it, it's more customizeable, more people play it, etc. I really miss playing shoppa online :)

I think you may be onto something here. I've been thinking the same thing myself. It's a cheap solution to the lack-of-playable-Worms problem and much quicker than waiting on a patch from either nVidia or Team 17.

well, then it seems there's another solution:

re-soldering different RAM chips to your graphics device


;)

My menus are incredibly slow and my CPU is at 100% while the intro/menus are up.


That's not specific to you device. WWP will use 100% on any computer.

I have Asus 6800 (not GT) with DDR RAM and there is also a problem with the menus, so the type of graphic memory probably doesn't make any difference.

It looks like Team17 does not support WWP any more. We have the problem since many months and nothing happens here. :(
I like that game, and would play this in future too. But it looks like i cant play this game any more...

release WWP/W:A as open source
not gonna happen.
t17 doesn't own 100% of the copyright.
they hired external programmers back then, who still have the copyright to parts of the code.

So has there been any resolution to this issue? I just picked this game up only to find out how obnoxious setting up any sort of game is due to the menu slowdown...

:(

So has there been any resolution to this issue?
read post #47 in this thread!

read post #47 in this thread!

Cute :rolleyes:

Whats the holdup on 4.0?

Whats the holdup on 4.0?
deadcode has not yet lost his job, so he has to waste precious time on "working" to "earn money" to finance his "life".

someone should call his boss and get him fired...

Ack, what have you guys been doing - sitting on your thumbs?!
We'll never get him fired if all you do is sit around here talking about it.

This is terrible, what kind of community is this...I'm disgusted :p

i have a geforce 6800gt and I had the bug but then one day it went away....I have no idea how....Ill try to find out how, unless someone can tell me what I did.


Well, at least there is hope that one day I may turn on my computer and *bam!* -- it'll be fixed.

:)

i've got a same problem.
leadtek winfast 6600gt tdh

i tried also older w:a and w2, but i was'nt satisfied.
we want a patch.. team17 should make some, cause in few countries, game is still in shops. doesn't matter if it's budget edition, or sold out.

we want a patch.. team17 should make some, cause in few countries, game is still in shops. doesn't matter if it's budget edition, or sold out.
well, a game company can't support a game forever.
you just have to be (very) patient and wait for the patch made by deadcode.

Hi @all,

just wanted to say that I've got the problem, too (in case anyone is interested :) ).

System: Athlon X2 3800, Geforce 6800GT (Forceware 8...something), 1024 MB RAM, WinXP SP2

Yup, me too. It's not just the slow menus, but ingame, usually after a few seconds of normal graphics, colours go all burnt out and high contrast (hard to explain with words) and it looks awful. I had this issue with Far Cry too until I patched it :( I'm a sad sad man.

the slow menus
old problem.
new geforce card with new drivers being not compatible with the old wwp.
nothing to be done about until nvidia makes their drivers compatible with wwp
or until deadcode has made the 4.0 patch for w:a compatible with wwp.
(which can last many moons)
colours go all burnt out and high contrast
you probably have a program with an "always on top" feature enabled running.
(i.e. instatnt messenger)

afaik, it steals the focus of wwp and messes up the game's color palette since minimizing/switching (alt+tab,window key) is not supported.

turn off the "always on top" feature or the whole program.

Hi .... I have the same problem ...Nvidia 6600GT...menu slow down but the game work nice

Hi .... I have the same problem ...Nvidia 6600GT...menu slow down but the game work nice
have you actually read my previous post?

have you actually read my previous post?


Yeah I read all post in this forum...

Yeah I read all post in this forum...
fine! :p
then i don't need to point out to this:
nothing to be done about until nvidia makes their drivers compatible with wwp
or until deadcode has made the 4.0 patch for w:a compatible with wwp.
(which can last many moons)

more "solutions":
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=449155&postcount=47

The problem IS only on 6xxx + series nVidia cards, anything up to a 5900 works fine. So there's something going on there....

I've tested this theory on a dual-xeon XP SP2 pc... using:
MX440
5700 vanilla and LE
5900...

Anything older than this shouldn't really be being used nowadays :P

/Holy Sock

I too have the problem:

Athlon Fx 53
2x Geforce 6800 Ultras 256mb each SLi
Audigy 4
2GB DDR 3200 Ram

It's annoying because I bought the game for my girlfriend and myself, mainly so my girlfriend has a game on her low spec PC, and it runs perfectly on her PC but not on mine.

I wish Team 17 would release a patch for World Party like they did for Armageddon as the latest beta patch for Armageddon solves the issue, but I prefer World Party.

Same problem here, just to let you know.

i have the same problem
msi 6600gt and its a pain to do something in the menus

got same problem with fx5200, I can fix it by using older drivers

I have problem too.
Athlon XP 2500+, ASUS GF 6600, ForceWare 81.95.
Before installing codecs packs, such as K-Lite Mega Codec Pack i have no problems. So i think that is problem with codec. I tried too uninstall them, but no results.. (Sorry foк my poor english :) )

Grrr i have the same problem too because i bought a new PC with a geforce6600gt!

Please T17 or Nvidia HELP us !

hi, same problem here. i own a 6600gt, tried different driver versions, to no avail.
could it be that the copy protection on the cd cause the slow menues and stuff?

I also ran into this issue. I have a "non GT" 6600 w/256MB video RAM. However, the menu seems to be just fast enough to only be irritating, not frustrating to navigate. In-game seems to run just fine at full-speed.

It defanatley seems to be a DirectDraw (DirectX 2d acceleration) issue. I just don't know if it is NVIDIA's fault (broken driver and/or hardware like the infamus wmp9 hardware decoder), or Team17's by doing some unsupported tricks that happen to work everywhere, except 6 series (possibly 7?) video cards. I'm sure deadcode knows the answer because it is mentioned to be fixed in the latest beta WA patch. Hopefully us WWP owners will get a fix for this soon from either NVIDIA or deadcode (through an installer to play WA from a WWP cd).

FYI

I'm running a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB RAM, GeForce 6600 256MB RAM, DirectX 9.0c, nVidia Driver v8.1.9.8

WWP Menu runs like a dog. Or to be more accurate a snail moves fast than the menus.

Once a game has launched it seems to be OK.

Not tried online

Hi, i'm a different problem
my configuration is: Amd-Gforce 6600gt-1gb ram-xp-panda antivirus.

So when i launch the game....after the main menu it back off on the desktop and i can't play!!!!

I've changed recently my video card and with the old card problems remains!! (ati 9250)....so i want play and i am very close to become insane!!!!

pliz help me!!!!

smafioso
Try to remove ATI drivers and NVidia drivers with Driver Cleaner Pro v.1.3 http://www.drivercleaner.net/downloads/DCProSetup_13.zip, shutdown, remove ATI card and install drivers. Try it.

Hi!
Today I bought this great game and...
... instead of spending some nice time playing I lost few hours searching the net for some instructions on how to make it work. Without any success. :(
In my case menu works good, but the real game does not start. It shows black screen and music plays. That's it.
I have GF4 MX440 and tried nvidia drivers: 43.45, 71.89, 81.98

I have read in this thread that older cards with 4xxx drivers work well. Not in my case.
So, I am doubly disappointed.

well, it's not a surprize, but my system based on 6600gt video card slows menus too =( бля! ебал я эту игру. so, does anyone have any workable solution for this problem ?

Hallo!

Ich hatte mit dem Gedanken gespielt, mir für ein wenig mehr 3D-Kraft eine GF 6200 zu holen, installierte "schonmal" die neuen Nvidia Treiber 81-98 und stellte plötzlich fest, daß z.B. die Tastenbeschriftungen bei div. Menüs fehlten [WWP, nicht WA]. Eig. unglaublich, suchte dann hier mal und stieß auf diesen Thread...

Also, habe nun wieder die alten Detonator 45-23 drauf und alles läuft erneut schnörkellos, finde es aber wirklich erbärmlich, daß ein Treiberupdate zu solchem Dreck führt, von wegen abwärtskompatibel...


Meine Fragen an Euch:

-Welchen max. Detonator Treiber kann man drauf machen, ohne daß diese Probleme auftreten? [habe die GF Ti 4200 momentan...] Und wo findet man diese dann überhaupt noch?

-Treten selbst bei denen der 40er Reihe Probleme mit den GF 5XXX auf? Wenn ja, mit allen? Weil, wenn die 6XXX nicht WWPkompatibel sind, will ich diese Karten auch nicht ;).

Vielen Dank für Eure Hlfe!

Gruß, Horn.

The language on this forum is English.
(Except for the 'Interntional' sub-forum.)
-Welchen max. Detonator Treiber kann man drauf machen, ohne daß diese Probleme auftreten? [habe die GF Ti 4200 momentan...] Und wo findet man diese dann überhaupt noch?
AFAIR, the latest drivers that worked for me are 66.81 or 66.93.
(I think that the 7X.XX series started to be faulty.)
-Treten selbst bei denen der 40er Reihe Probleme mit den GF 5XXX auf? Wenn ja, mit allen? Weil, wenn die 6XXX nicht WWPkompatibel sind, will ich diese Karten auch nicht.

I don't know.
With my GF 6600GT I get the "slow menu" bug.

WA will eventually be compatible with WWP, so WWP users will get to know WA users and want to switch to WA.

i have WA, i just find wwp better :(

There are many, many ways in which WA is superior to WWP and very few ways WWP is superior to WA, and with WA's updates, it will eventually have everything WWP has, feature-wise, and much more.

thats an assumption and/or personal opinion and doesnt change my volition to have a working wwp NOW :rolleyes:

It is planned by Deadcode. I'm not merely assuming it.

True, it doesn't change your volition to have a working WWP. :)

When use the versions 66.93 problems does not exist. Videocard 6600GT production Leadtek. The Driver from kit of the supply. The Rest plays orderly work.

versions 66.93
Yes, AFAIK, that's the latest version of the forceware drivers that do work with WWP & GF6600 cards.

still no solution yet? sigh.....

I have the same problem too. W:A works great but wwp runs slow.:( Guess I'll be playing W:A more now..

Guess I'll be playing W:A more now..That is a very very good idea.

Here comes someone else out of the woodwork with this problem... I too have a 6600GT, Galaxy brand... and an Athlon XP 2500+. Opening screens (Team 17/Titus) are as slow as hell, menus are as well. *sigh* WWP is one of the only games I nearly always have installed, looks like I'm either going to have to revert to older drivers or play the waiting game (which is not nearly as fun as WWP).

Yet another wormer who has problems with it. GeForce 7800GT, Athlon 64 3200+ and a gig of RAM. I'll check out some old driver documentation and try to experiment with the settings using RivaTuner...
I'll keep you posted.

Same problem here.

Windows XP SP1a (not sp2)
Amd Sempron 2800+ (socket-A) o/c to 2.2ghz
1gb ram
MSI NV6600GT 128mb (81.98)
SB Audigy2


And the opposite problem on my laptop! Menu animations are TOO FAST! (but cursor moves normally, so its playable)
Win XP SP1a
Pentium4 3.2Ghz HT northwood
768mb pc3200
Mobility Radeon 9600pro 128mb (Omega 4.9 and 5.11)

I agree with some of the things you say, but people are still playing this game.
There's a whole community based on WWP; not as mighty as the Counter-Strike community for example, but a couple of hunderds is still a number hard to miss.

And the opposite problem on my laptop! Menu animations are TOO FAST! (but cursor moves normally, so its playable)
Win XP SP1a
Pentium4 3.2Ghz HT northwood
768mb pc3200
Mobility Radeon 9600pro 128mb (Omega 4.9 and 5.11)
Turn of the Vertical Syncronasation(Vsync -.-).

people are still playing this game
Guess what!
I still play "ancient" games like Bomberman, Ignition, Deus Ex 1 or System Shock 2, which are even older than WWP.
I don't b*tch the whole day long why the game doesn't get patched, heck, Ion Storm and Looking Glass Studios are even out of business.

Just a quick note to say that I tried the nVidia 66.93 drivers and they do indeed fix WWP so that the menus are fast and such, and I would have stuck with them (they were the first set of drivers to support the 6600GT apparently), except my Nebula Digital TV software has a glitch with them, so that instead of zooming the center of the screen for 4:3 content, it zooms the left hand side of it instead - lol, you just can't win can you?

Too bad then, that Team17 haven't been *****in' the fact that the game won't work on modern PC's
Tell me one (game) company that has a magic crystal ball and can look into the future to learn how computers will be then and implement the correct driver right away! :rolleyes:

Heck, WWP was released in spring 2001.
That means it was developed circa in 2000 and even released before WinXP hit the market.
The Geforce 6 series, which includes the notorious GF6600GT, was launched in April 2004.

Notice something? Time doesn't run backwards.

So no new patches will come out for the old wwp users with new pc's?

So no new patches will come out for the old wwp users with new pc's?
The final version of the beta patches for W:A (v4.0) will work for WWP too and will solve the problem.
Don't expect this to happen anytime soon.

Anyone had a go with the new drivers released by nVidia?

glad to see i'm not the only one. i've waited and waited, nothing yet. :(

i have a 6600gt as well, still the same problem as everyone else. this is ridiculous, especially since i lost my W:A a while ago....

this threads title should be changed because the problem is to do with video drivers rather then video cards.

having a geforce 6600 is not the problem... you can have a geforce 7900 and still have this problem... because its related to video drivers and not the video cards themselves.

this is ridiculous, especially since i lost my W:A a while ago....
No, it's ridiculous that you haven't used a back-up copy to play and put the original game behind diamond glass and a platinum frame. ;)

just to add myself .. same problem .. i know the 68.92 worked with it (but thats not really a solution) ... i removed the clouds in background so the menus wont take to long. but typing in ag or while joining games is unacceptable,

specs:

nvidie 6800GT
AMd 3500+
asus a8v-deluxe
512MB ram

how do you remove the clouds?

Heya, Marcus. (=

I've got the same problem with a geforce FX5200 card with the lastest drivers...:( ...

aye greg

for the clouds just go here.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/vahagn/sfx/learning_zone.html#20

the workaround works cuz i tested it ages ago. the 68.92 works tho.
use driver cleaner pro as told. then reinstall the old drivers. my prob is i get a bluescreen after each game i played. but thats my system cuz i know it worked in the past.

Nice link to our old web-site, heh. We had it moved to another host and address a while ago, it's www.clansfx.co.uk again. Has the Learning Zone just aswell, M3nt even expanded it a bit!

yeah ur right i still love to browse the old one :)
good old times

k used an image to reinstall my computer and for 100% i can tell u the 66.93 works fine with wa (newest patch installed) and WWP (SP1 needed anyways) for the 6800 GT.. im sure same to the 6600x and other nvidia cards which involved with this driver.
hf guys

I too also had the problem of slow menus with WWP AND with unreal tournament, all the new games work fine might i add, after reading all this i installed the much older 66.93 drivers (the new ones are about 84.21 now) and both games work perfect now. This is still incredible stupid that the newer drivers seem to disregard whether old games work properly or not, but surely if older drivers work, the ability to work would continue with newer drivers.. Anyway this seems to the way to fix the problem

Another way would be to smack some responsible person over at Nvidia in the face with a banana.

old video cards generaly hate new drivers... the problem in wwp is related to new video cards... so you had a diff. problem kside.

im assuming you have an old video card.

I wouldnt call the 6x00 series old exactly....

yeh chris thats damn right.
but well i wasnt in the mood to answer to that "old cards reply".
so better get a high end grafic card because if you can effort it u can effort a 2nd comp aswell for just worms :)
hf

haha, well the drivers that came on the original disc with the card are over 70.xx version, but admitedly the 6600GT is probably considered old now, it still runs all the new games really well for me though, and good for the cheap price i paid compared to the new cards, much better than the radeon 9600 card i bought a few years ago

My config is:
P4 3,2 GHz
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB (84.21 driver)
1024 MB DDR-RAM
Windows XP SP2
And I've got Worms World Party with the Service Pack 1.

I've got the so called "slow menu bug" (menus are slow and sometimes crash, but the game is fine). I've read that the video card driver downgrading helps. But the problem is: if I install the 66.93 driver, then the NEW games won't run properly. So the thing is: when I want to play Worms World Party I have to install the 66.93 driver. When I want to play any other games, I have to install the latest driver. So my question is: Is there any OTHER WAY to solve the slow menu bug?

Not for WWP. I suggest you play WA instead, as this is fixed in it, and WA has many more awesome features that WWP doesn't have.

Not for WWP. I suggest you play WA instead, as this is fixed in it, and WA has many more awesome features that WWP doesn't have.
The emphasis in this sentence is on "awesome".

dear kside, im relatively new hear and didnt know your sys specs... if i knew you had a geforce 6 card i wouldnt have said it.

lol, well it is a topic about the 6600.....

forgot entirely about that when i made the posts....

the 6600GT 256 MB AGP is my next purchase so it BETTER be good!

the 6600GT 256 MB AGP is my next purchase so it BETTER be good!
Well, you will get the "slow menu bug" with WWP.

Well, you will get the "slow menu bug" with WWP.

Good job I play only WA ;) (yeah I know wrong thread but I saw the title and...)

the only 256mb geforce 6600 pcie i could find wa a gigabyte card... i got a 128mb jetway version instead... it does incredibly well considering its current age.

Can somebody tell when this patch (4.0) will be relesed?! Пацаки, спасите!

Can somebody tell when this patch (4.0) will be relesed?! Пацаки, спасите!
Many moons will have to pass.

Many moons will have to pass.
And what about more exectly date? It's my favorite game, but I can't play this...

And what about more exectly date?
No one knows.

Just fix the goddamn! problem!
I've got also the ''slow menu bug'', on my 6600GT.

please release the patch soon!:mad:

Just fix the goddamn! problem!
I've got also the ''slow menu bug'', on my 6600GT.

please release the patch soon!:mad:
Yeah!
And tomorrow I'll call Bill Gates and tell him to fix the goddamn problems in Windows 95.

Yeah!
And tomorrow I'll call Bill Gates and tell him to fix the goddamn problems in Windows 95.

Haha, its a lost cause for sure, how do you guys like the latest worms game er Mayhem i think it is, i played the demo a while ago seemed pretty good

Bonz...yur flippancy is unwarranted and your suggestions absurd.

Not realy. Worms Armageddon is what now, £5? probably less (just stay away from trymedia) and many worms players have both.

Downgrading drivers is harsh but if WWP is the game you want to play then its easy enough to do.

At the end of the day he was telling it as it is. If you want to play worms without this issue those are the options available to you, and most people here will suggest the 3rd one.

Help I Have The Same Problems !
So What Ares The Solution Plz ?

As bonz said:


* downgrade to an older driver version
* install a different graphics card
* buy worms armageddon (will get patched with next beta upgrade there)
* wait until the final v4.0 patch is here

As bonz said:
* downgrade to an older driver version
* install a different graphics card
* buy worms armageddon (will get patched with next beta upgrade there)
* wait until the final v4.0 patch is here
*Driver versions up to 66.93 should work.
*The problem already has been fixed for W:A.

have you link for install driver 66.93 ?

have you link for install driver 66.93 ?
On the official page of Nvidia of course:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_66.93

but be warned... these drivers arnt the latest and you may encounter problems with other games/programs.

windows dont accept drivers ! Can the team17 make patch for wwp ?

windows dont accept drivers !
What? Then how does your hardware run at the moment?
Try de-installing first. Or use a driver removal tool.
Can the team17 make patch for wwp ?
It is intended that some patch ≥v4.0 supports WWP and gives you all features and bug fixes that W:A has until then.

nvidia may not have the 66.93 drivers digitaly signed by microsoft and that is what is stopping him from installing them... or he's not in an administrator's account... or he didnt uninstal the new drivers then install the old drivers.

does the nvidia 91.31 beta (32-bit) drivers fix the slow menu bug?

i dont have w:a just wwp , so when the beta patch 4.0 for wwp ?

i think the point is that once WA can do everything WWP can and more, there will be no point in WWP. Right now the only thing WWP has over WA is user missions... which are great :D

just a bit of clarification... i dont care if team 17 stopped supporting this game... i do care that the community is trying to dump this game as a lost cause.
Thank you for completely ignoring the upcoming patch...

I just built a new system for a friend, and installed a PNY GeForce 6600 VGA card, the CPU is Athlon 64 3200, and the PC runs Windows XP Professional SP2.

I thought it would be nice to install WWP on the PC so we can play against each other via the Internet. But alas, the menus, as others have seen, run very slow in the setup part. However, game play against the computer works perfectly well and smoothly.

The other issue I have is that it won't connect to the Internet for playing other people. I have F-Secure Internet Security 2005 installed.

So after reading what others wrote about the graphics I can see that this is a problem that many have had for the past year, and maybe one day it will be fixed. I have allowed WWP to access the Internet in the F-Secure program's firewall, and yet still I do not get access. Everything works fine from my PC, and at the moment they are both set up on the same router to the same ISP in my home.

Any ideas on why the Internet cannot be accessed? And anyone found a workaround with the slow menus that does not involve changing graphics card, installing old drivers or just not playing?

Link to a solution:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29594

just thought i should say that nvidia 91.31 (non beta) works or i think it does.... im now using 91.33 beta...

just thought i should say that nvidia 91.31 (non beta) works or i think it does.... im now using 91.33 beta...
Oh, sounds nice!
I'm gonna try the 91.31 (non beta) right away.

Edit:
Nope. Doesn't do anything for me.
Still the same slow menus and transitions.

did the 91.31 driver work?
i have that slow down menu problem but that wouldnt be so bad if the game worked online. When i enter a game i get a "mushroom effect" as one player called it, i get to see no ground and the worms and everything else is multi-colored. I restarted worms, rebooted, changed the resolution and finally installed the latest nvidia drivers. All attempts gave me the mushroom effect. i've played single player ok but it has had that effect appear a couple of times.
Anybody know how to get rid of the mushroom effect?

My computer
AMD 2600
Nv6600GT
windows XP

if your using onboard sound card then close the volume control thing in your system tray.

91.31 and 91.33 both still have slow meus but i think there faster then earlier drivers.

When i enter a game i get a "mushroom effect" as one player called it, i get to see no ground and the worms and everything else is multi-colored.
That is highly likely caused by another program stealing the games focus, which messes up the paletted colors of the game due to switching to the desktop.
Try turning of "always on top" features in programs like Winamp, instant messengers, Object Desktop,...

As for the Forceware 91.31:
I can't see any difference to the drivers before (84.21).

Haha it works it works! thanks guys i had alot of programs running in my taskbar i turned everything off except my firewall. Ok im off to do some worming you'll see me on wormnet as lunapark. Thanks again guys. ;)

Thx bonz

Haha it works it works! thanks guys i had alot of programs running in my taskbar i turned everything off except my firewall. Ok im off to do some worming you'll see me on wormnet as lunapark. Thanks again guys.
Try turning on one program each time and check if WWP works.
If you find a program that messes up the colors, try to see if you can find an option to turn "always on top" off.
And post the feedback.
Thx bonz
You're welcome.

Yayyyy!!! Am I victim number thousand or so? :-/ My GeForce 6600 GT works absolutely great, even with superold games, but not with WWP :( *sigh* I tried to install the latest NVidia drivers, but they crashed my comp :p So still no luck...

Link to a solution:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29594

Might want to check that.

Hmm yeah, too bad... i still get nice black screens and flashy 16 colours or so when running levels... my whole system is fugly then :P Doesn't seem to work :( Now the menu won't even load :) how silly :-/

My screen is black also, i have 6600GT and first 2 days everything was fine(slow menus but its not problem for me) but then suddenly the background go away and remain only the worms. They like standing on the air because there is no background. And my game screen appears is 256 color i think. Can i have any chance for solving this problem?

no full proof solution yet then?

since i know not of an intro skip command line for this game i (with a small amoount of help from adamrigdon) have made a pack that a) removes all animating crap from the menues and b) replaces the intro crap with a black screen and a small white dot... i will upload this soon to my webspace and link to it... it will require manual installation meaning you will need to browse for your game.

i also changed the background to that of w:a.

since i know not of an intro skip command line for this game

"C:\...\wwp.exe" -nointro in shortcut properties.

whats the default install path? (just need this bit of info for the self extractor and then i'll upload it)

edit 1: is it c:\program files\worms world party\
edit 2: http://web.aanet.com.au/Student_WebZone/NewGfx.exe (1.05mb)

By default: "C:\Team17\Worms World Party\".

ok, well manualy change the default path to point to your WWP graphics folder.

I had the same problems and have finally got it working.
It worked when I tried it after closing winamp. Yep. Closing winamp.

93.71 drivers make this game a fair bit more beareble if you suffer from the slow menu's (yes i do suffer from them and have tested this) :D hope this helps some people...

Kebrus, you seem to have missed that WA (a better game than WWP) is getting updates, and this bug (among many others) has been fixed.

Actually this problem is still there, I have a Q6600 core2quad with a geforce 8600 GTS and it also has slow menu's, so changing cards from 6600 to 8600 doesn't work.
The game is playable very good, the menus are undoable...

yes, thats because the problem is with the "drivers" and not the graphics cards.

yes, thats because the problem is with the "drivers" and not the graphics cards.

too bad Nvidia never fixed it as it is more than 2 years ago the first problem was reported...

I'm sure they've released new drivers now. Try downloading the latest non-beta drivers.

I also still have this problem. It's not horrible, just so damn annoying.

same problem here,
cpu core2 quad
geforce 7600 GTOC
4 GB ram
menus slows !
anyway by removing those background clouds , it get faster?

same problem here,
cpu core2 quad
geforce 7600 GTOC
4 GB ram
menus slows !
anyway by removing those background clouds , it get faster?

Yes, not much but it is faster without the background clouds.

Hi guys,

If not to get some ideas... to add myself to the list of unhappy people

My system was originally running an old ATI Radeon Dual Display on WinXP. I was running the latest version of the ATI drivers and my WWP worked fine (except of course for the invert/8bit color outbursts).

I recently upgraded my gfx card to a GeForce 6200 Series and downloaded and installed the latest nVidia forceware.

Now, when I start WWP, the game starts and the screen is shifted off the left of the screen by about 50px (regardless of multi-monitor desktop or not) with the apparently already discovered "slow-menu" bug. As for the game itself, I get a black screen with the start bar showing over the top of it. If i try to focus the window, it returns to said state.


I've also tried the omega drivers and these have no effect on the style in which WWP likes to run on my supposedly *better* gfx card.
AND I tried turning ALL the accelerations off before running WWP and still no luck.

Any ideas would be loved up by myself and probably many others :)

Cheers
option

change your system fonts to "small fonts" to most likely solve your issie with the menu's being offeset.

So, any hope for a good solution to the problem... ever? Haven't played WWP in months and won't cause it makes me wanna cry to see just how it *runs*.

Man! 3 years passed and still no solution... It's nvidia who we should blame. I have a 7600 go, with driver 91.xx, and I can't run games such as WWP, and Crimson skies... I'm kind regret for buy a NV based laptop... I really should go for ATI.

Does installing Omega drivers or old Nvidia drivers fix that notorious menu slow down problem?

yes, but at a cost of support for newer games. you would be looking at the 69.x.x drivers which also don't support the geforce 8 and (i think) 7 series cards.

I bought WWP and I have the right to play it.
You mean you have the right to return it, on the basis that you're unable to play it.

I've swapped my graphics card for a new ATI one just so that I can continue playing WWP.

And please, don't tell again "get WA, it is soooooo much better and get updates". I hate too much fanboy talking.
It's the truth though.
WA has got a workaround fix that remedies the cause of this issue: bad Nvidia drivers.
Also it has tons of new features that won't make you go back to WWP anyway soon.

BTW, I have WWP and a GF7900GS and I have almost no slowdown with the latest drivers.
I bought WWP and I have the right to play it.
Yes, but keep in mind that WWP was released in 2001. That's a long time ago.
And Team17 are not responsible for Nvidia's crappy drivers that are not backwards compatible.

Besides, Greenpepper (and all other budget re-release companies) have licensed the publishing rights.
If those companies are still releasing the game these days, they are responsible for it's compatibility on recent hardware.

Since this issue has been narrowed down to the drivers, perhaps rename this thread to "wwp and nvidia 69.xx or newer drivers" or something.

OmegaDrivers.net is giving away a Forceware 169.21, rather than the older 66.xx.

Downloading, will try, and post back here.

Ill try them out too !