Yes and no.
I'll need to know why you thought that to answer the question fully.
And no more guessing. It's spamming up the works.

Are you one of the ten?
It would make sence to use yourself in the demo.

By the way, Plasma, I just got rid of my Electro (from Spiderman) worm sprite in the folder. Or did you mean Electricito?

Anyways when abouts will the demo release?

I have a question... What's the limit for the map size? I mean, like WA?
Also, if you want to, I can try to make maps...

In Worms Engine 2 the map size has to be of 1960 X 696 pixels. But Worms Fusion is a rather different game, a platform i think, so it has different limits or no limits...

I have a question... What's the limit for the map size? I mean, like WA?
Also, if you want to, I can try to make maps...

Me too, if I had better sprites! Hey, Plasma (or someone else!) can you please post me a link to the download (or a direct download via attachment)of bloopy's map sprites? Please! Ta!

1: The levels can be any size.
2: The game will be able to upload levels. (nearly any size)
3: Yes, you may freely make any maps and they will most likely be used in the game.

heh psyke here just giving yo u a update on whats going on the game itself is looking pretty damn great right about now but ther are some things i need to ask plasma abotu in private :P

man you are so lucky psyke!!! you get to play the game.....AS EARLY AS YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

yes, but he spends work on it.

Yes i do making the levels and such but meh also i come up with idea's in brain storming sessions with plasma for the game.

Psyke doesn't get all versions of the demo asI only have a 56k modem.

And in other news, the demo will be out monday, at around 1:00PM GMT

Psyke doesn't get all versions of the demo asI only have a 56k modem.

And in other news, the demo will be out monday, at around 1:00PM GMT
Hooray!! Sounds nice! I cant wait now:D

Still working on that image. Here's my very, very early work-in-progress shot: [Clicky (http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6349/wormsfusionwip15si.jpg)]

mmm...
Good, but a bit too futuristic and not 'wormy' enough.

I'll just finish it as it is and deal with the text later, since it's in a separate layer.


Or, more accurately, in 9 separate layers...



Edit: I really need an idea. Just say what you want the theme to be or something similar.


Edit 2: I made [this (http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8061/liqbig6nq.jpg)] thing ages ago. I can use it as a background.


Edit 3: Something along the lines of [this (http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/959/wormsfusionwip20lf.jpg)]?

wait...in the worms game you can choose your own background?!?:eek:

Nope, Agent, you cannot choose the parallax background, but you can change the theme (music, art, pirate...) and Did you notice that in the Worm Engine 2 missions the parallax background and the flocks are ice-styled?

Which one of these is best?

[Stroke (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/949/wormsfusionstrokewip8ir.jpg)] - 503 KB (514,407 bytes)
--or--
[Dissolve (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/8799/wormsfusiondissolvewip9zk.jpg)] - 845 KB (865,062 bytes)
--or--
[Light (http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5958/wormsfusionlightwip0cp.jpg)] - 640 KB (654,479 bytes)
--or
[Light Stroke (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4079/wormsfusionstrokelightwip8cs.jpg)] - 595 KB (608,436 bytes)

If it was for me, i prefer dissolved... :)

I would have the light one with the stroke font on the fusion-word
Are the backgrounds going to be used in the demo??

Which one of these is best?

[Stroke (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/949/wormsfusionstrokewip8ir.jpg)] - 503 KB (514,407 bytes)
--or--
[Dissolve (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/8799/wormsfusiondissolvewip9zk.jpg)] - 845 KB (865,062 bytes)
--or--
[Light (http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5958/wormsfusionlightwip0cp.jpg)] - 640 KB (654,479 bytes)
i would say i liked the first one best, its easiest to see. muahha im off chool monday so i can try demo out then. :rolleyes:

I would have the light one with the stroke font on the fusion-word
Like [this (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4079/wormsfusionstrokelightwip8cs.jpg)]?

oooh, nice! but the worms bit is quite faint...

[Worms Fusion loading screen (813kB) (http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/6696/wormsfusionwip30if.jpg)]

Very good, but a bit too much strain on the eyes.

I'll desaturate it a bit.

Like [this (http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4079/wormsfusionstrokelightwip8cs.jpg)]?
Yeah! Cool, its very nice =)
[Worms Fusion loading screen (813kB)]
Cool, but is it just me or does it look like the one in the above link?

Demo out tomorrow! I can hardly wait!

Cool, but is it just me or does it look like the one in the above link?
The "Worms" part was changed.

damn, i havnt asked to be made a character yet have i? i guess its too late now....:(
i read this thread too late thats why

damn, i havnt asked to be made a character yet have i? i guess its too late now....:(
i read this thread too late thats why

*Waits for Plasma to post yet another post saying "No, it's not too late."*

WOOT!! i'm so exited about the demo! :D

"starts thinking about what background music i should use"

*Waits for Plasma to post yet another post saying "No, it's not too late."*
really? then i guess i'll request

[Worms Fusion -- 1920*1536 - 710kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3628/wormsfusion7df.jpg)]
[Worms Fusion -- 1280*1024 - 641kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7091/wormsfusion128010243jo.jpg)]


I can add a loading bar and copyright/credits or something similar if you wish, Plasma.

dang, it's Monday here, and I'mm all yea worms fusion but no. Lol.

Where's the demo? It's over one o' clock.

either hes in a different time zone to you or you mistook the pm for am...

it should be out in 2 hours k ?

Really, can't you guys survive for a few extra hours without a freakin' fan-game?

Well, Demo coming once I upload it.
It's 12:45 GMT now.
And be thankful. I have school now and a 2hr maths test next.

hey i'll wait! its worth it for the demo!;)

Yes, it's normally a good idea to wait until the game is finished uploading before downloading.
Edit: Uh-oh, the upload site aint working. Anyone else got a good upload site?

Well, Demo coming once I upload it.
It's 12:45 GMT now.
And be thankful. I have school now and a 2hr maths test next.
Good luck then =)
Yes, it's normally a good idea to wait until the game is finished uploading before downloading.
Edit: Uh-oh, the upload site aint working. Anyone else got a good upload site?
Oh too late..
Try this site http://www.easy-sharing.com

hmm.. well i know psyke use's: www.devianart.com or somthing like that..and i use imageshack.....isin't there a way how we can just..download it on to our pc's?

Note the 'image' and 'art' in their names. Those sites can only do pics.
And I think I have a good site now.

Thy god has blessed you with his wonderus creation.
...actually that should be demigod.
http://rapidshare.de/files/8280139/WormsFusion.zip.html
Feel free to publicise.
Music pack 1/3:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8280436/WormsFusionMusicPart1.zip.html
Mre music coming soon.

Downloading now...



Edit - Oh, and...

[Worms Fusion -- 1920*1536 - 710kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3628/wormsfusion7df.jpg)]
[Worms Fusion -- 1280*1024 - 641kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7091/wormsfusion128010243jo.jpg)]


I can add a loading bar and copyright/credits or something similar if you wish, Plasma.

Should I?

Aaah! Finally! Lets see if its worth the wait :p

Thy god has blessed you with his wonderus creation.
...actually that should be demigod.
http://rapidshare.de/files/8280139/WormsFusion.zip.html
Feel free to publicise.
Music pack 1/3:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8280436/WormsFusionMusicPart1.zip.html
Mre music coming soon.
O_O (is that the right smilie?)
Downloading now!:D

well it was fun working on this ive said it once but i wanna say it again please do enjoy everyone

well it was fun working on this ive said it once but i wanna say it again please do enjoy everyone
This game is cool, it has nice jokes =)
Good job! A bit difficult, I could only reach level 2 in the missions..
I cant wait for the full game:D
2 things though:
1 When I select the mission or the other one with the green worms, the game says the is an error by creating nr X where X is the number. I just ignoed it though..
2 It takes 5 minutes for my computer to start, but its worth it to wait =D

Edit: Woo, I completed level 3! sad there isnt more, but nice story =D

yes, its kinda difficult...
is it possible to make the game not restart the mission when I accidentally go out of the screen? Maybe place an invisible border there?
But nice job :D

yes! right this secend i'm downloading!:D but i must wait thrity minutes:(

Thanks for the comments:
1: I'll try get the rest of the music up for those who want it.
2: Things to note:
-The number buttons will switch the music (except in menu and cutscenes)
- You know you won the game when you have all characters. (10)
-I forgot to remove grenade and clusters from Mission3.

It won't let me download it.

?
Why not?
(You are clicking on the 'free' button, right?)

Yes, I am, and if I knew why it wasn't there'd be no problem, would there. Oh, and nice new av

Not sure what you can do then.
Ask someone to send it to you?

Ok. Can you send it to me?

How, exactly (MSNMessenger would help)
And I probably amn't the best for sending files, I have dial-up.
And how do you know it isn't downloading?

Mainly because it doesn't let me go onto a page about downloading (eg. Do you want to run or save this file? kinda thing)

Wait, when you clicked on 'free', did you scroll down on the next page?

Why yes, yes I did.

Well, I'm stumped!
As I said, you should get MSNMessenger, then people could send it directly to you.

I could get msn...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! once the download was done i exported the files then when i cliked on the game it said......THERE HAS BEEN AN UNEXPECTED ERROR WHEN RUNNING GAME!!!!!!:eek: :mad:

I've got MSN but it's being perculiar. (On mine and my mums account). It says to try again later.

why not direct link to the exe for everyone

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!::mad: :mad:


"SMASHES PC"

maybe this has been mentioned before, but is it possible to make the landscape destructable?

(Sorry if someone asked before, but these are a lot of pages... :rolleyes: )

How Do I Fix This Error?!?!?!?

Plasma, I really quite admire your programming skills.

I have spent the entire day making a slightly advanced version of tic-tac-toe in C++ complete with a very rudimentary AI, and the only graphics you'll see there is ASCII art for the playing grid. Yet, this is the most complex thing I am capable of doing...

Then again, I didn't really spend any more than today. And I only spent 6 hours of today. And it's no more than 350 lines of code. But still...

Well done.

I tried the demo... and I can't get past the menu. Which IMHO is 500% overscaled, and the mouse does not work. (Yes, I agree GameMaker rocks :rolleyes: )

^_^

The help window which apears when pressing SPACE (which the help says means sellect) is also way to long and confusing, noway anybody is going to read all of that...

Good luck though guys..

Use the arrow keys to navigate the menu.

agent luke ignore the errors enough times and it should start you know itsted of pointlessly spamming

but when i cancel the error it closes everything!:eek:

Ignore, not cancel. Ignore

its no use....the error box stops the game from starting up...

.[i mean the error appears while game loading screen pops up..]

Use the arrow keys to navigate the menu.

Yeah, but sellecting a button didn't work =/

press space or left mouse button, forgot which of these it was

Aw, Plas for some reason it won't download (I mean the site won't let me download it)

There's a bit at the bottom of the download pages which says "x seconds until download" or something... You sure you waited for it?

There's a bit at the bottom of the download pages which says "x seconds until download" or something... You sure you waited for it?


???????????

what part didnt you understand ?...its simple unless your retarded..oh wait ;)

At the bottom of the download page (after you click "free") there's some text which says "wait x seconds for download" or something similar. Wait until the number drops to zero, and there you have a link to the download. Easy as proverbial pie, if you're as observant as I am.

Lets see if I can put a summary of problems:
1: Can't find link.
-Scroll down the screen to buttons saying 'Free' or 'Premium'. Click on Free. Then Scroll down the next page. If there is a timer there, wait until it has finished. Click on link to start download.
2: Download won't start.
-Problem unknown.
3: Game gives error: 'THERE HAS BEEN AN UNEXPECTED ERROR WHEN RUNNING GAME'
-Problem with download or computer. (Check that The computer has DirectX fully functional)
4: Game will not finish loading.
-Problem unknown, but is being checked.
5: Menu not working.
-Use <up> and <down> to move cursor, space to select, buttions in grey can not be selected.
6: Game displays message: 'File not Found'.
-You are missing a music file. Check the word document supplied with 'WormsFusion.zip' for more information.

Where can i get the system specs for the game?

Yes, back from school! *downloads*
Lookie! 51%!

Edit: I have a similar problem to ALuke. So tha specs would be nice. Because my computer sucks. (96mb RAM OMFG) heres a piccy:

Whoop! Finally here! Waiting for downloading. PS: Is the music File 1/3 neccesary?

No! I double-clicked it and it said "File invalid or corrupted"! Must I save it into My Pictures?
Fixed. Oh great, error! I'll check the DirectX...

1: If there is a message: 'file invalid or corrupt', then you have to redownload.
2: I'll see if I can get the specs needed for the game.
3: Hmm... that error seems to be rather common. (most likely due to bad comps).
4: Gardy, is that the same error as Marbig?

well today we might visit my sister....she has high speed....

The rest of the music is up, see first post for more info.

Same error as Marbig's. And very nice music, I like it.

Wow, nice demo there!
And I just love the conversations:)
Just one little thing... If the hats moved with the worms when they breath, it would look way better...

Oh, and I have no problems running it. (I'm using my portable:) )

do voices meant to come out of the worms?
BTW, that "never finishes loading" probby is that it takes approx. 5 min to load and ur too quick for it!
P.S. Great game demo
I SERIOSLY THAUGHT U'D NEVER FINISH IT
grr damn caps lock

Well its better than i could do... although i still dont know what i need to do in the missions, and if shooting is part of it then which button is shoot?! :p

Click a weapon and "space"

yeh...i got that now, it probably needs a quicker way of selecting and something telling you what you have selected... still its good, although im stuck on lv. 1... (after my 4th attempt though :p )

1: More notes I forgot to mention:
I think the game loads faster if you do not switch programs while loading.
Pressing space while the cursor is on the 'WromsFusion' button will give the game information.
The number in the top left corner in VRA mode (the one with the square ground) is the frames per second. The standard is 30.
2: Voices do not come out of the worms. Voices take up loads of room.
3: Metal Alex, I tried that but it looked terrible. And when you say there's no probs, does that include no lagging anywhere?
4: Yes, it seems difficult, but it's addictive enough that you will finish it.
5: By the way, this game is designed so that you want to keep going back to playing it, as it takes little time to play.
6: 2p, do you mean level 1 of the missions or VRA?

That wierd mode is annoying. Its hard.

Hey Plasma, I just played the mode above missions, and now I have got a few questions:
1 Is it possible to win? how then?
2 The enemies just let me fall through the floor, and Im in a different coloured level, but theres only two of each level, is it meant to circle in those two only?

When you got hit once, its like saying: youre dead now.. Its impossible to make no miskakes :S
I have to use shotgun and keep tapping space, but theres 1000's of shots against mine.. And, Im through the floor..

in mission 1 level 1, how do u kill that worm in the lower-left corner?
I've been trying to figure that out for ages!

btw, the link for music 1 is broke

1: In level 1, try using a shotgun at the start of the level.
2: The mode above the story mode is VRA. It's hard, but there's good rewards. (except bronze, but you need that in the end)
3: The level will change colour, but it doesn't affect gameplay.
4: The best way to do a VRA is to keep moving and let the enemies nail themselves into the floor.
5: The object of VRA is to kill all enemy's. Unfortunately, there isn't a message to show that all enemy's are dead (there will be in the demo with less bugs). If you think all enemy's died before you, press ctrl.
6: I'll try make the same demo but with less bugs.
7: The links are supposed to only last 30 days, so if anyone has anothr place to upload them and have broadband, feel free to do so.

what rewards??????
ME WANTEE!!
Also, can u release the source code i.e. .gm6 file, so we can have a peek?

Ya, 5 music files and 6 characters to unlock!
And I'm gonna re-release the demo but with:
1: No error messages, they are instead written in a log file.
2: In VRA, it tells you if all enemy's are defeated.
I also may be joining with another person to give you worm names and after-match reports.

Although uploading the re-release will probably take an hour or so.

Uploads done.
http://rapidshare.de/files/8406677/WormsFusion.zip.html

This version has:
1: No more error messages. They're stored in a log now.
2: Message appears when all enemy's in VRA are destroyed.
3: Fixes an error in not being able to unlock the 3 campaign music files.
-Watch all cutscenes before the missions to unlock tunes 7-9, under buttons 8, 9, 0.

WOOT!!! "starts and waits for download"

Tyea. Hope this one works for me.

W00t! *starts download and waits impatiently*
EDIT: Must you play with internet?

*ahem* I am having problems with this. After I download the game the little red loading bar that comes up when I start it goes about 1/8 of the way along and then gives up. Could this have anything to do with me having Win M.E?

2: The mode above the story mode is VRA. It's hard, but there's good rewards. (except bronze, but you need that in the end)
3: The level will change colour, but it doesn't affect gameplay.
4: The best way to do a VRA is to keep moving and let the enemies nail themselves into the floor.
5: The object of VRA is to kill all enemy's. Unfortunately, there isn't a message to show that all enemy's are dead (there will be in the demo with less bugs). If you think all enemy's died before you, press ctrl.

Thank you very much! =D

Uploads done.
http://rapidshare.de/files/8406677/WormsFusion.zip.html

This version has:
1: No more error messages. They're stored in a log now.
2: Message appears when all enemy's in VRA are destroyed.
3: Fixes an error in not being able to unlock the 3 campaign music files.
-Watch all cutscenes before the missions to unlock tunes 7-9, under buttons 8, 9, 0.
5 music files and 6 characters to unlock!
Thank you, thank you!! Its not chritsmas yet =P
Good demo, and may I be the first asking, when is the game out? =d (I'm probably mnot the first...)

*ahem* I am having problems with this. After I download the game the little red loading bar that comes up when I start it goes about 1/8 of the way along and then gives up.



ME TOO!!!! but it STILL says there has been an unexpected error!!!!:mad: :mad:

Yeah! It still has the error! I did it 5 times! Maybe the awesome might of Worms Fusion isn't meant for me. :(

Yay!
WF demo, its great to have my internet back

I told people earlier; the game has a bigger loading time than the newest 3D super-graphics games!

It takes less than 10 seconds for me, 2.4 ghz. I'm glad you made the game. It's always entertaining playing worms fans games, and this one is the most sophisticated I've seen so far.

I would like to point out 1 main issue. The constant shooting wrecks the game, in my opinion. The missions become too easy because you can clearly see where it is safe for your worm to stand in order to kill the enemys. The death matches become too difficult because the land disappears at an alarming rate. You end up killing most the enemys by making them shoot themselves.

Overall... you did a good job.

Uh-oh, I uploaded the wrong version of the game. (uploading correct version now)

And I know about that loading bar bug. That's why I removed that from the new version.

And for anyone that has a problem, please PM me the prob and your computer specs.

And Etho, what would you give it out of ten?

Edit:
New link
http://rapidshare.de/files/8452392/WormsFusion.zip.html

That link closed down my aol.

???
That was weird.

And I would still appreciate if someone with broadband hosted this in another place, as some people can't download.

*downloads game and crosses fingers*
If this eventually works, I thank you. But is it neccesary to play with internet?

aaaaaaaaHHHHH!!!!:eek: it says file is valid or corrupted!!!!

As a worms fan game I would probably give it a 7. As a game on its own it would get a much lower score due to it's errors, graphics, interface, sound, and gameplay issues. Of course it's not like you poured 3 years of your life into making the game so these short comings are totally acceptable.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=14J7IRLW
Alternative link (EXE ONLY)
DOC file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0OK5M5KV
Will upload a .ZIP with ALL the music files in afterwrds
isn't it about time for sum1 to upload a 100% save game?

I still have the unexpected error message!:( :eek: :(

:mad: ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Thanks for the link, Muzer.
It can't be played online, to let you know Gardy (so you don't need internet)
The only solution I have to that unexpected error prob is to get a better comp. (Or download a DirectX higher than version8, if you haven't done that)
And Muzer, there's no reason to give others a 100% savegame as there's only singleplayer stuff and it's only a short demo.

Oh, and that link is working, right?

I still have the unexpected error message!:( :eek: :(

What error message?:confused:

Some people have a problem when running the game.

Oh, and anyone that does have a problem, please search the folder with WormsFusionDemo.exe for an 'errors.log' file. If it exists, post what it says here. If it doesn't then it's a problem that cant be fixed.

And another link (I couldn't get Muzer's to work)
http://host-a.net/getfile.php?usern=Plasma&file=WormsFusion.zip

[Worms Fusion -- 1920*1536 - 710kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3628/wormsfusion7df.jpg)]
[Worms Fusion -- 1280*1024 - 641kB (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7091/wormsfusion128010243jo.jpg)]


I can add a loading bar and copyright/credits or something similar if you wish, Plasma.

... Well?

Some people have a problem when running the game.

Oh, and anyone that does have a problem, please search the folder with WormsFusionDemo.exe for an 'errors.log' file. If it exists, post what it says here. If it doesn't then it's a problem that cant be fixed.

And another link (I couldn't get Muzer's to work)
http://host-a.net/getfile.php?usern=Plasma&file=WormsFusion.zip
Does that download cost money (I'm very cautious and I can'ty find an answer there)

Does that download cost money (I'm very cautious and I can'ty find an answer there)
Noo, you must only click on the downloadbutton.

Edit:
New link
http://rapidshare.de/files/8452392/WormsFusion.zip.html
I belive it's a dialer, because you must type something in a field to get the package. :confused: You should use the other link ... ;)

No, that's to host something.

Edited because of missunderstanding

Well, that one download fine for me. It's good.

If you face right and aim as high as possible with the Magic bulletty thing, He looks down, and it does the opposite when you're facing the other way.

so ? i know alot of fun glitches in this game but there not that bad

But it confuses me.

There are a lot of fun gliches indeed, but I didn't delete them as they seem to add to the game. (except BK's thing, I couldn't solve that)
Besides, how many times are you gonna look directly up or down?

Unknown, it's good, but as I said before, it's not very wormy. And it's too large, 640x480 would be the limit.

I do it the whole time.

hey plasma. do you think you could give the downlod link for marcromedia flash mx?

Some people have a problem when running the game.

Oh, and anyone that does have a problem, please search the folder with WormsFusionDemo.exe for an 'errors.log' file. If it exists, post what it says here. If it doesn't then it's a problem that cant be fixed.

And another link (I couldn't get Muzer's to work)
http://host-a.net/getfile.php?usern=Plasma&file=WormsFusion.zip
I have an errors.log but i don't have anything compatable to view it

That's unusual.
But put it as an attachment on your post.

Open it in Notepad

Hey Plasma, you may have seen this thread already, but if you haven't maybe it can help you to better create a W2 era engine imitation
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27148
:eek:
:D

THIS DEMO IS AWESOME! can´t wait for the full game!:D :o

I want to be in or is it too late?
If I can be in my special weapon is super flame what I can shoot from my hands.
My siggy is a worm who has fire eyes and fire hands.

there is however an errors.ini

and about that request earlier
bazooka=red bazooka
minigun=scatter laser: shoots lasers that bounce off walls
flamethrower=plasmathrower (btw, i don't mean the forumer plasma i mean the raw energy kind of plasma) shoots blueish purple stuff at the target
parachute=shield:a blue forcefield protects the user as he drops but it bounces and it is unaffected by mines

my sig wears a jetpack all the time

1: No, it's not too late.
2: I blame Halo for a misunderstanding on how much damage plasma would do.
3: I'm not gonna make a Worms2 type engine. And for all the people that want to make a game,there is no point making a clone of a game other than for practice!

Hey, can you make me (http://forum.team17.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26025&d=1133803608) ?
Replace the cluster grenade by my dangerous coffee cup. :) Its have brown coffee napalm instead of clusters. ;)

I had some kind of idea... It could make the game a bit more playable...
You could put a "reload time" (for real time games):
I mean, you shot, and you have to wait a bit before the next shot. for some weapons like the shotgun (2 shots) or uzis (say... 20 shots?) the reload time could start when there are no shots left. If possible, it could be different for weapon. In this way, comp players could shot less often...

Just a though, anyway.


Also, I made some art for worms fusion:

Worms Fusion (http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9471/imagen0046jd.jpg)

Should I add something?
Also, I'll try to make people from the game...

Hey I had a story idea! How about for one of the fights DarthDarky somehow becomes more powerful and goes a different colour maybe like in this pic:

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/4666/powerdarthdarky7ee.png (http://imageshack.us)

Nononono! Different colkours are alright, but NEVER put this tail-colour on my poor, poor siggy :p
If colours change however, he should get an aura, too.

But I think colour-changes are not really neccessary.

Right master, sorry master! Oh by the way, what's an Aura?

An aura (maybe I used the wrong word) is for example what Gardy has in his avatar (green energy around him)

An aura (maybe I used the wrong word) is for example what Gardy has in his avatar (green energy around him)


Oh thanks master! *Goes off to work on it*

I probably had a red or dark blue aura, but its not neccessary and would be just more work for plasma.

I probably had a red or dark blue aura, but its not neccessary and would be just more work for plasma.

Just done!

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9687/powerdarthdarkyred0rk.png (http://imageshack.us)

Since when is darth your master?

Since when is darth your master?

I decided to join him, and help him make vehicles, got a problem with that? Is it because you're jealous? Or not?

no, but did you actually askhim, or did you just decide.

no, but did you actually askhim, or did you just decide.

Asked and he laughed at some of my ideas and said he mightl have them in his comic. So I guess I'm allowed as his apprentice, as he hasn't disagreed or anything!

I'm his apprentice. You're the... ummm... Artillery Comander?

I'm his apprentice. You're the... ummm... Artillery Comander?

Perhaps you should ask your master before giving me duties? Now lets not continue this, you don't want to be Watched again, do you?

Perhaps you should stop spamming this thread with your stupid childish dark empire dribble.

Umm...
Just looking through, I might have found the solution to the "unexpected error" problem!
It could be because of the file named 'worms'. It will be in the same folder as the WormsFusionDemo.exe Try renaming that to something else, such as WormsCopy. Then try the game again.
Please tell me (exactly) what happens.

And good art, MetalAlex.

Perhaps you should stop spamming this thread with your stupid childish dark empire dribble.
Amen to that.

I can't get it to work, it just stays at that screen with the sign "Worms Fusion" with the clouds going past, but nothing happens! HELP!!!!!!

I can't get it to work, it just stays at that screen with the sign "Worms Fusion" with the clouds going past, but nothing happens! HELP!!!!!!

Press up or down... OMG!!!! solved!!!
Read the instructions...:p

Oh... A list of people in the game in the fist post could be nice...
And... if anybody wants me to draw him, say a weapon to be using...

oh right, thanks

Great! Now it says "An unexpected error occurred while running the game" and in a file called "Errors" it says "Searching for object charselect. File does not exist"

Edit: Only does it sometimes

Also: I would have liked to see

1. Multiplayer.
2. The ability to actually pause in game.
3. When you quit, when you come back in that it doesn't suddednly start you over again in the campaign, that it would take you to the main menu.

Gravy:
1: I dunno why it wouldn't be able to find that object.
2: I forgot to add in the ability to pause.
3: Press ctrl to return to the menu and save.

Hey! I've got a question, too: Will you make a scrollfunction ? So we have a better overview. It's necessary, because the resolution is so low.

Hey! I've got a question, too: Will you make a scrollfunction ? So we have a better overview. It's necessary, because the resolution is so low.
Amen to that:) Will you?

Gravy:
1: I dunno why it wouldn't be able to find that object.
2: I forgot to add in the ability to pause.
3: Press ctrl to return to the menu and save.

Oh, thanks! :)

Anyways can you please maybe post a "ready to edit with Game Maker" type version of the Worms Fusion Demo, so we can tweak the sprites or something? Ta! JUST for the demo though (but maybe when you've finished the full game you could do it (by it I mean the full game) ready to edit with Game Maker)

Oh, thanks! :)

Anyways can you please maybe post a "ready to edit with Game Maker" type version of the Worms Fusion Demo, so we can tweak the sprites or something? Ta! JUST for the demo though (but maybe when you've finished the full game you could do it (by it I mean the full game) ready to edit with Game Maker)
you would need a registered version of Game Maker because of the destructable land.. could have been okay though

you would need a registered version of Game Maker because of the destructable land.. could have been okay though

Does it cost money to register?

I must say. Wooh.
The demo is very good. Very. Keep up the *** work.
I must ask you how you did the ground blowable. Did you use a registered copy to do it? Yes Hot Gravy it costes you money but a serial isn't that hard to find these days :)
One thing folks, EoL isn't dead.

1: Thanks Anders. {Link to destructabe ground topic on GMC} (http://forums.gamemaker.nl/index.php?showtopic=44353) And don't forget, you can resurrect your Eol topic if you're still working on it.
2: Gravy, I won't give you the GameMaker file. However, I will tell anyone some techniques I used if they need em.
3: The way I did the destructable terrain didn't need a registered GameMaker.
4: I might include a scrolling function.

hey plasma! do you think you could get me the download link for worms fusion on FLASH?

What do you mean, exactly?

What do you mean, exactly?
He wants a Flash version of Fusion:)

...
...And that means...

ya'know.....when its done the start-game thing looks kinda like this: [lot smaller though]

Sorry? You've lost me!

Well... I made some more worms fusion art...
Just people in the game, but here it is:
My art thread :) (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=26388&page=2)
If somebody requests, do it in that thread.

How's that different than your last art?

How's that different than your last art?
It's the same style, but I posted the two pictures that I already made... The last one, and another with four worms from the game (second link).

Oh... yes... It's in the last post...

Umm... ya...
I wouldn't consider that pic of the 4 characters to be fanart of this game.
And for other people out there, don't say it's fanart unless it obviously is.

Ok then, got your message...
Mm... But if I make a group pic, it could be art...
Well, I could try...

You could try do all the characters in the current demo.

You could try do all the characters in the current demo.

Only if I had unlocked all...:)
Wait... the story mode... *inspiration comes*

1: Thanks Anders. {Link to destructabe ground topic on GMC} (http://forums.gamemaker.nl/index.php?showtopic=44353) And don't forget, you can resurrect your Eol topic if you're still working on it.
2: Gravy, I won't give you the GameMaker file. However, I will tell anyone some techniques I used if they need em.
3: The way I did the destructable terrain didn't need a registered GameMaker.
4: I might include a scrolling function.

Can you post it please?

This is just if you have time, but I would like my Dual Pythons to look like this on second thoughts:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2330/dualvipers3uo.png (http://imageshack.us)

Remember this is only if you have time and I would really appreciate it, sorry for giving you more work

You could try do all the characters in the current demo.

I can't unlock all the characters! (yes, I know you meant Metal Alex)I have unlocked the ones by completing story mode, but how do I get the others? I also got a bronze medal on each battle. (I mean the battles with the tiles for landscape)

Please help me!

i can't believe that i haven't posted in 3 weeks...

the demo won't work (either im too lazy to wait or the game just won't start up).

EDIT: it works...guess i was too lazy.

hey plasma! do you think you could get me the download link for worms fusion on FLASH?
It's not that simple to just convert something to Flash. He'd have to make his game all over from scratch.

Besides, what good will it do?

It's not that simple to just convert something to Flash. He'd have to make his game all over from scratch.

Besides, what good will it do?

Maybe making the game playable using a browser instead of downloading it...

It's not that simple to just convert something to Flash. He'd have to make his game all over from scratch.

Besides, [what good will it do?]



well i used to have flash and now anything thats flash works! no matter what!:)

Umm...
Just looking through, I might have found the solution to the "unexpected error" problem!
It could be because of the file named 'worms'. It will be in the same folder as the WormsFusionDemo.exe Try renaming that to something else, such as WormsCopy. Then try the game again.
Please tell me (exactly) what happens.

And good art, MetalAlex.
I can't find a file called worms in the same folder as wormsfusiondemo.exe :confused:
btw what folder is wormsfusiondemo.exe supposed to be? it's currently in windows

"worms" is created after running the game once

it does not matter where you install the game.
i suggest somewhere on you desktop

When is full version coming out :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (not sarcasm, its puppy eyes)

When is full version coming out :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (not sarcasm, its puppy eyes)

We'd best not spam, unless we want to be watched longer! Back-on-topic:

It probably won't come out until next year, however since plasma is doing a great job, I'm having a wild guess it will be out about May 2006!

Back off topic: Wow! Your watch date has disappeared!

1: I still don't know when the next version will come out. However, I have nearly all of the programming done, including sound control and item shop (I might tell you about that sometime, there's a big difference between it and the W4M version)
2: The file 'Worms' is a file created at the start of the game, unless it already exists. (that file has been causing me a lotta trouble recently)
3: Gravy, the gold in VRA unlocks characters and the silver unlocks music. The last character can only be obtained by completing everything.

1: I still don't know when the next version will come out. However, I have nearly all of the programming done, including sound control and item shop (I might tell you about that sometime, there's a big difference between it and the W4M version)
2: The file 'Worms' is a file created at the start of the game, unless it already exists. (that file has been causing me a lotta trouble recently)
3: Gravy, the gold in VRA unlocks characters and the silver unlocks music. The last character can only be obtained by completing everything.

GOLD??!?!?!?!!?!:eek: :eek: :eek: Anyways in the next demo how about having these features:

10 characters again, already unlocked. (different from the demo ones, and some will also affect the weapons's sprites (not how it works)). Multiplayer. Network Play. Team creator (if you A. Can't make that or B. Weren't intending to, just keep it as select character. Also when you select character hopefully it will make the rest of your team look like him). And finally: Whatever that feature was in the options menu that showed Psyke_O standing on a crate.:p If that's the tutorial, just keep the other features.


This will be the multiplayer only demo.

1: Actually, I see the full version coming before multiplayer.
2: That part is supposed to be for extras.
3: I'm not gonna have the characters automatically unlocked. However, in the full game, there'll be a way that playing the easier levels can help you win the harder ones. (No, I'm not gonna tell you what that is)

It doesn't work on my computer. I don't know why.


Okay here is what happens. I have downloaded it. I go into the folder and extract all the files and then I click on the demo (double click) and the logo comes up. I wait. After a minute and 6 secs this message comes up saying "Failed to load the game data. File seems corrupt." I click the "OK" button and the message and the logo go. Why???

Okay. I'm gonna go play some Worms 4: Mayhem.

I'm gonna go play some Worms 4: Mayhem.









[Off Topic] Lucky Dog:p [Off Topic]

1: Actually, I see the full version coming before multiplayer.
2: That part is supposed to be for extras.
3: I'm not gonna have the characters automatically unlocked. However, in the full game, there'll be a way that playing the easier levels can help you win the harder ones. (No, I'm not gonna tell you what that is)

Aw. Anyways how's it going with the full version?

1: Actually, I see the full version coming before multiplayer.
2: That part is supposed to be for extras.
3: I'm not gonna have the characters automatically unlocked. However, in the full game, there'll be a way that playing the easier levels can help you win the harder ones. (No, I'm not gonna tell you what that is)


UNLOCKING WEAPONS?

If you want to have a character in this game, please have:
1: A character (you can have a different name that your own if you wish)
2: Any weapons that you wish to replace (Eg: replace grenade with watermelon, for some odd reason)
The current weapons so far are: Bazooka, grenade, clusterbomb, homing missile, smartbomb,(similar to homing missile except slower and more accurate) holy hand grenade, dynamite, shotgun, uzi, landbomb(as in demo), banana, sheep, and who could forget....prod!
3: Umm... that's about it. Mabye one sentence on your sigworm.

Do the people who already requested (like Darth, Psyke and me) have to do that too?

Since its still not too late

I finally got it right :):):)

http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sigworm7ds.png

Why are you wearing Psyke's glasses?

causs he's copyied it right from the game ¬_¬

Ok... I'll put here the weapons that I'll replace in this demo:
Holy hand grenade: Sacred punishment, just a light sphere instead of the granade. The Ahleluya remains.

Landbomb: Pacman, the only thing different is that it remains there a bit of time opening an closing the mouth (like eating the ground). Then dispappears (shrinking could look nice). If it's possible, make it look like the one in my avatar randomly very unusually.

Dinamite: banger, the same, but a bit more "self-made"

Smartbomb: Watcher, the same, but it's an eye with wings.

Homing missile: clever bazooka, The same, but if possible, make it wind affected, and with a bit more damage, if not possible, doesn't matter.

Grenade: Marble, the same... but a marble (random color. If not possible, then doesn't matter).

Cluster grenade: Advanced marble, the same, but it's a shining marble (random color again, if possible)

Also, my grave:

Ouch (http://forum.team17.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=25331&d=1130274006)

EDIT!!

I also made the art from the demo:
It's here (http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6150/imagen0138no.jpg)
If you want to comment it, do it at my thread:
Here (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=466881#post466881)

causs he's copyied it right from the game ¬_¬

Hey its difficult to have different shape than that, made it myself, i only have the same colour >: (

no they are a complete match i checked myself

The fact its pasted from something else is that i drawn it it paint and pasted in flash (paint which isnt good at circles and psykes one has a low quality ROUND glasses i used paint too)
happy now? (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sigworm5ln.png)

no not really why would i be happy ?

1: Gardy, yes you do. I amn't gonna go searching through nearly 1,000 posts to find everything.
2: Julian, I'm gonna give you yellow glasses. And use punctuation.

I request for a place in the game, then.
The requested one or two sentences about my sig:
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=466961&postcount=715 :p

Weapons to be replaced: Would it be possible to make my left eye shooting a laser ball (same colour as my hair) that deals randomly between 1 nad 100 damage points? Dont know which weapon this should replace, though...

You can make me villain, hero or something else, my siggy does everything as long as its funny ;)

Noooooooooooooooooooo!
Banana Is Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try downloading again.

And at the next version, I'm only gonna have 15 forum characters to start. (more will be introduced later) However, this doesn't mean you can't be in the story. But please have:
1: A character (you can have a different name that your own if you wish)
2: Any weapons that you wish to replace (Eg: replace grenade with watermelon, for some odd reason)
The current weapons so far are: Bazooka, grenade, clusterbomb, homing missile, smartbomb,(similar to homing missile except slower and more accurate) holy hand grenade, dynamite, shotgun, uzi, landbomb(as in demo), sheep, and who could forget....prod!
3: Umm... that's about it. Mabye one sentence on your sigworm.
1. My character, Ignate. Black bandana, black skin, ring any bells?
2. Weapons, the un-creative part:
Zook: Paintball gun (ammo green colour)
Nade: Waterbaloon, green, blue-ish explosion.
Cluster: Same as nade but red in colour.
Homing: Blue ammo paintball gun.
Smartbomb: Red ammo paintball gun.
HHG: An alarm clock, lets out a ring before detonation.
Dynamite: Papyrus scroll.
Shotgun: Two Star Wars blasters. (orange tip and grey body)
Uzi: One Star Wars blaster. (blue tip)
Landbomb: Idon't know what's a landbomb just do a large cookie.
Sheep: A hopping papyrus scroll.
Prod: My hand turns green and pokes the intended victim.
Note: If you need me to do more weapons just tell me.
3. Rarely speaks. Just do him breathing like Darth Vader. :p
Gravestone: The same papyrus scroll only slightly bigger.

1: Oh yea, I forgot to add a banana to that list.
2: Gravy, please be more creative in your weapons. Nearly all of that stuff was random.

Alright then.
Banana: Yellow chilli pepper.

What does a yellow chilli pepper actually look like?

It's a teardrop shaped thing with a stalk on it. :p

I don't suppose you have a pic?
I know what a chilli pepper is, bout it wouldn't look that differrent from a banana.

Fine. I want a non-returning boomerang as a banana.

Gardy, please choose weapon that are:
1: Funny, in some way
or
2: Relative to your character.

my weapons: hack PC: replaces air strike. does 20 damage and its a laptop and i place it in front of the worm and sort of a green scanning light comes from the back of the PC and goes on another worm. so when the worm i scanned ges near water it gets zapped!

matrix punch: does 35 damage and replaces the fire punch and works exacly like it but no bandana.

lightsaber: [you know what it is]does 40 HP and replaces the base ball bat.. i can use it only 2 times.


poison needle:replaces the gas canister and does 9 HP each turn..must be the same distance as the prod.


throwing knifes:does 10 damage per' knife [ iget to use it twice each turn]replaces the bow and arrow.


repel:works and replaces just like the ninga rope only i can throw it at worms and does 10 damage!



and pic:

Luke, please read the post about what weapons are currently in the game.

Gardy, please choose weapon that are:
1: Funny, in some way
or
2: Relative to your character.
Alright then.

Zook: A zook that shoots a green orb.
Nade: The same orb but now i throw it.
Cluster: Same orb, red.
Homing: Same as zook, blue ammo.
Smartbomb: Red ammo zook.
HHG: A slightly larger yellow orb.
Dynamite: Papyrus scroll.
Shotgun: My hand turns red and "shoots" twice.
Uzi: Same as SG but hand turns blue.
Landbomb: A zook with yellow ammo.
Sheep:Bouncing papyrus scroll.
Prod: Hand turns green and pokes.
Grave: Myself but my eyes turn white.
And an important note, Ignate doesn't breathe like Darth Vader if it's his turn.

I want...
Sheep---> Toaster on wheels
Super Sheep---> Super toaster on wheels
Ninja rope---> A garden swing
Armageddon---> Hyper Mouse Strike (Hologram looking mice with odd patterns fall from the sky)
Bungee---> Elastic band
Sheep Launcher ---> Toater Launcher
Old Woman--->Furby
Sheep Strike---> Toaster Strike
Pneumatic Drill---> Laser Shovel (A shovel that sends out beams to destroy land beneath you)
Blow torch---> Tamed Pac Man (You hold onto it's reigns)
Kamikaze--->Mad Pac Man (As above but faster and explodes)
Viking Axe---> Flower Power (Holds up sunflower that sends out light beam at -40 degree angle (Aprox) until level with tail of worm)
Flamethrower---> Smilie thrower (Throws out different smilies at enemy.
Concrete donkey---> 42 (I love the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. just a giant 42 that falls from the sky)
Napalm Strike---> Smilie strike (see Smilie thrower)
Mad Cows ---> Stick man army (Like it sounds)
Air strike---> Orbital laser strike (Laser beams come down from the sky)
Earthquake---> Tectonic teddy bear (A random teddy bear appears in the background and starts pounding it)
Dragonball---> Chakram (I throw a chakram at the enemy)
Firepunch---> Firepunch (but using the flaming sock puppet hand)
French sheep strike---> French toaster strike (All toasters have french moustaches)
Bazooka---> Boo Boo Babazooka (don't ask) (Sends out a blue plasma ball)
Holy Hand Grenade---> Holy Hamsternade (Same, but a hamster)
Banana Bomb---> Steel banana bomb (just a metal one)

Is that what you want, written a second time. Ok. Oh, and my grave would be an exploded lightbulb.

I just did some little changes here (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=466880&postcount=967).
Ignore the art thing...

My sigworm is quite different. I'll try to not make it too much overpowered...

Let's go...

Rarsonic will have health(50 pts), shield (100 pts) and rechargable energy(200 pts)

Shield:A protective shield that...well...protects Rarsonic. It is regenerable. It is independent of the energy.

Anti-gravity fields:Makes Rarsonic fly. Consumes 5 energy/half-second.

Dark Lighting:Just an instantaneous red lighting. Does 40 damage and consumes 25 energy/shot

Dark Sparking:Some kind of red electrical balls with medium speed dispersed in every shot. Each does 20 points damage and the shot consumes 30 energy.

Gravity Control:Rarsonic atracts objects or repeals them using its gravity modules in hands. Consumes 5 energy/half-second while in use. This is optional. You can prescind of it if you do not have not much skill.

Dark Energy Blast:When in danger, Rarsonic can create an explosion out of itself, substracting 100 energy and 75 shield.

Paralyze:Sends some electricity to stop the victim's neuro-circuits. It spends 75 energy.

Dark Beam:Sends a wide beam that can go through ground, but it takes 5 seconds to charge. It damages 25/half-second and consumes 10/half-second.

If anyone hits Rarsonic in the backpack generator when it is without shield, it explodes and dies automaticaly.

I think Plasma already said he only needed weapons like zook, HHG etc.

my character: PIC HERE (http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3082/oftnewsig20062hu.png)

Bazooka: same stats: the launcher is blue not green, and the shells it fires are on fire

Cluster: same stats: the clusters that spawn after the bomb explodes are on fire

Dynamite: the same

Homing missile: same stats: launcher is red: the missile is flaming

Smart bomb: same stats: the projectile is kinda like a robotic orb, like them protection droids from star wars, oh yeah and the launcher is gold

HHG: the same

Grenade: the same exept theyre blue not green

Shotgun: the same exept the launcher looks like a sniper rifle

Uzi: the same

Sheep: the same: exept the sheep itself is slightly robotic (with a cyborg eye and etc)

Prod: the same exept instead of a finger prod my character gets out his flaming sword and and slashes the target with it....alll same stats though

NEW WEAPONS:

Dragon Ball: like the original dragon ball exept the projectile is normal fire colour not strange purple colour, and the it does a little more damage, yet doesnt push as far

Fire Explosion: an AoE (area of effect) attack, produces a very small VERY short range attack that deals moderate damage to all surounding the character, including whats above and bleow the character, does very small land damage as well (meaning that after the attack is used the character drops down abit because hes destroyed some land below him!)

id make a sprite if i had a naked 2D worms worm, could someone psot one? thanks

Are we allowed to do special weaps? And do you think flaming stuff is too difficult? I mean I wanted some flaming weaps but I thought it'll be too much work for Plasma.

1: Rarsonic, I'm gonna have to think about yours.
2: I can do flaming weapopns to a small extent. But I won't have them for just anything, it has to be related to your sigworm.
3: No special weapons.

1: Rarsonic, I'm gonna have to think about yours.
2: I can do flaming weapopns to a small extent. But I won't have them for just anything, it has to be related to your sigworm.
3: No special weapons.

If then i'll have to use an alternative sigworm...

grave is a banana skin, My worm is just a normal worm holding a shiny gold banana

When i'm playing scientist, I have a white lab coat on, with rulers, protractors, pencils etc. sticking out the pockets I have a 'nana that replaces the Supersheep but the 'nana is coloured shiny gold, and you can fly it like a supersheep! It even has a cape on when flying! It explodes on impact, or after a 30sec fuse. It gains it's superness by pressing space It looses it's supernes by pressing space again. Everything else is like the 'nana (clusters, etc.) but it does 85 damage in total. The sheep's new colour will be rgb 255, 255, 0
pigeon 255, 0, 255 My finishing move is I throw my golden 'nana like a boomerang, it explodes the enimie, and then the banana-boomerang comes back to me and lops my head off, and it lands upside-down on my body and stays like that (it doesn't explode)

just to tell you, in my opinion, the menus should be changed...

i'd suggest something similar to the WA/WWP layout.

Muzer, when I said you could be a scientist, I meant for the story only, not as a playable character.

1: Oh yea, I forgot to add a banana to that list.
2: Gravy, please be more creative in your weapons. Nearly all of that stuff was random.

What do you mean? Anyways for another special move, only available in realtime: Taunt:

I blow raspberries at the enemy and I have to stay on the spot for 2 seconds while doing. If I do it succesfully, without the enemy hitting me in between, I gain 10 health! Also instead of slabber coming off my tongue, have mini bits of fireballs!

For my surrender I would like my worm to go really mad and open his mouth, which looks like a firey furnace, then I explode:p.

Instead of my Old Woman (I'm changing it again), Dragon false teeth:

These are false teeth on legs, that chatter as they walk! Just before they explode, they catch fire!


Is that creative enough, or can you give me an example of what you mean by "Creative"?

Sorry Gravy, that post was intended towards Gardy.
But you should read the post about what weapons will be in the game for now.

Sorry Gravy, that post was intended towards Gardy.
But you should read the post about what weapons will be in the game for now.

Oh yeah, Aw. So I can't have my Dual Phythons? (Since they replace Minigun)

They can replace uzi.