Hello, I have been getting this very particular lags in game. They are screen lags that come in waves. Maybe for two minutes the game will run smooth but then for 20 seconds I could get a series of these small screen lags, but they are still burdensome enough to mess up roping, jumping, and powering a weapon completely. I have tried every suggestion listed in this thread: http://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/lag-problems/msg98952/?topicseen#new

Nothing has worked. Decided to try these forums where all of the extremely smart computer people reside.

Computer specs:

Windows 7 Home Premium
Service Pack 1

Manufacturer: iBUYPOWER Computers
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00 GHz 2.00 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 4.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System

I can run very demanding games on high settings with a breeze, but I get these very unplayable lags on and offline of WA. Help please, thank you

Do you have anything else running while you are playing WA?

I find that if I have Wheat Snooper running or Firefox open while WA is on, I get those kind of lags and it messes up my roping.

Also, do you have PX on? That also lags me sometimes.

I have only teamspeak running, but I get lags with and without it. I don't have PX. I have tried setting explorer.exe to lower priority and WA to higher priority through task manager but that didn't help

Do you have anything else running while you are playing WA?

I find that if I have Wheat Snooper running or Firefox open while WA is on, I get those kind of lags and it messes up my roping.

Also, do you have PX on? That also lags me sometimes.

he has got some kind of video card problem, since the CPU and priority don't help him.
Also, wheat snooper and firefox shouldn't cause lags if they are minimized, and not just running on background. That's why the auto-minimize feature in wheat snooper is useful. And anyway you can use wkAntiLag (on an old Win 7 system I had a permanent lag problem after **** VirtualBox (full deletion didn't help), and antilag helped me pretty much. Now, on a new system I don't have lags anymore, but I still use the module - no one knows what can happen once, and I need stability).

he has got some kind of video card problem, since the CPU and priority don't help him.
Well, I didn't know that until his second post. If that's the case, make sure you are using the latest driver for your video card.

Also, wheat snooper and firefox shouldn't cause lags if they are minimized, and not just running on background. That's why the auto-minimize feature in wheat snooper is useful.
I have auto-minimize on, but that makes absolutely no difference. I just kill wheat snooper and everything is peachy. ;)

My video card is Nvidia GEFORCE GT 540M and it is fully updated.

Steps, how do I use this antilag thing you speak of?

I have only teamspeak running, but I get lags with and without it. I don't have PX. I have tried setting explorer.exe to lower priority and WA to higher priority through task manager but that didn't help

Preinstalled Os? I so bet theres muuuuuhuhuuuuch more running in the background.

I have auto-minimize on, but that makes absolutely no difference. I just kill wheat snooper and everything is peachy. ;)

That is abnormal, probably your PC isn't good enough or something else eats the CPU.

Steps, how do I use this antilag thing you speak of?
it highs up the WA's priority

That is abnormal, probably your PC isn't good enough or something else eats the CPU.
It's not that old.
Athlon 64 Single core 2.0GHz 1.0GB RAM , running XP.
Should be enough to run a game from 1999.

Firefox was always iffy, but I never noticed lag with the snooper until recently. It's not a big problem though, I can live with it. :)

Preinstalled Os? I so bet theres muuuuuhuhuuuuch more running in the background.

I have windows 7, and there is more stuff running in the background. I feel like there could be that one mystery program that is causing the lags. I don't know which programs I can end, though...

Steps, how do I get this wkAntilag thing? where is it?

If setting the game to High Priority didn't fix the problem for you then WkAntiLag won't help. All it does is force the game to run as High Priority.

I know you've got your laptop power options set to max performance.
You should also check your NVIDIA control panel and disable any power saving features.
You could also try setting a profile for worms, I don't have NVIDIA, but the screen might look something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/jiHDv.jpg

I had a similar problem a while back with my ATI card.. which caused GPU stats to spike. It was eventually fixed in a driver update, but you could check if something like it is happening with you.
download GPU-Z from here (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2065/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.5.6.html)
start the program, play worms for a bit, then check the sensor tab (it will show a graph of various GPU activity)

good luck.

My nvidia driver is up to date but I will try that program and take a look even though idk anything about this technical stuff

EDIT: yeah, idk what i'm even looking at there :Q

http://postimage.org/image/ybaber4jv/

those are the programs in my task manager... who can tell me if I have a bad one in there or if I can remove some?

bumping this because the game is still unplayable :-/

Hey, Shy.

EDIT: yeah, idk what i'm even looking at there :Q

http://postimage.org/image/ybaber4jv/

those are the programs in my task manager... who can tell me if I have a bad one in there or if I can remove some?

I'm on Vista rather than Windows 7 here so it's probably slightly different, but as an example, here's what I have running on my user while I play WA:

http://shrani.si/f/1z/Nc/1U2wBtvf/task-manager-before-wa.png

It's quite a bit less than you, but it's true that I went out of my way to uninstall all the garbage that came preinstalled on the laptop and generally try to keep things as lean as possible. I use mIRC.exe instead of a snooper, msseces.exe is the Microsoft Security Essentials antivirus and VCDDaemon.exe is the utility I use to mount disc image files (in this case the WA ISO).

You shouldn't worry too much about ending any of those processes since once you reboot, they'll all be running again anyway and if you try to end an important system process, Task Manager itself will tell you about it and prevent you from doing it. If you do find the culprit, come back here and we'll find a permanent solution. I'd start with Avast (might be set to check for updates very often), Firefox, iTunes, the Java update scheduler, Paint (has been known to mess with the WA palette in the past) and maybe TeamSpeak as well, then move on to the smaller ones that take almost no memory.

Hey, Shy.



I'm on Vista rather than Windows 7 here so it's probably slightly different, but as an example, here's what I have running on my user while I play WA:

http://shrani.si/f/1z/Nc/1U2wBtvf/task-manager-before-wa.png

It's quite a bit less than you, but it's true that I went out of my way to uninstall all the garbage that came preinstalled on the laptop and generally try to keep things as lean as possible. I use mIRC.exe instead of a snooper, msseces.exe is the Microsoft Security Essentials antivirus and VCDDaemon.exe is the utility I use to mount disc image files (in this case the WA ISO).

You shouldn't worry too much about ending any of those processes since once you reboot, they'll all be running again anyway and if you try to end an important system process, Task Manager itself will tell you about it and prevent you from doing it. If you do find the culprit, come back here and we'll find a permanent solution. I'd start with Avast (might be set to check for updates very often), Firefox, iTunes, the Java update scheduler, Paint (has been known to mess with the WA palette in the past) and maybe TeamSpeak as well, then move on to the smaller ones that take almost no memory.

ok, I deleted avast and got the one you had. I cut a lot of the processes so i have around the same amount as you and I'll let the forum know how that works out. Also, anyway to keep the processes I killed away? I feel like I keep naturally accruing them some how and have to keep hacking them off

ok, I deleted avast and got the one you had. I cut a lot of the processes so i have around the same amount as you and I'll let the forum know how that works out. Also, anyway to keep the processes I killed away? I feel like I keep naturally accruing them some how and have to keep hacking them off

Apart from finding out what application they belong to and uninstalling it completely, you can follow this guide and start (temporarily) disabling stuff you think you won't need:

http://www.blackviper.com/2010/12/17/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

Many of them are services belonging to Windows components, so caution* is advised, but if you make sure everything is at the default values for your edition of Windows 7 before starting and the system works, you can always just revert the changes in case anything goes wrong. Though it never has for me and I've always used that guy's guides. You should be fine if you follow the "Safe" configuration, but it is quite a bit of work, so definitely first see if you can't perhaps fix the situation by simply uninstalling bad software that came bundled with the computer.

If even that doesn't do anything, I'd slowly start considering contacting iBuyPower's support. If it's a hardware or driver fault, they're the ones who can best tell you what to do. Older games can be tricky because modern hardware isn't optimised for 2D rendering, but that's no excuse, really. WA works just fine for the vast majority of people.

* Just ask your father about caution!

KRD, what about when the "show processes from all users" is checked? could I end a lot of those?

You could, but unless you actually have another user logged in (you probably don't), those will just be system processes which are covered by the Black Viper guide above, though unless you go with its "Tweaked" or even "Bare-bones" configuration, most of them will continue running. They shouldn't be causing trouble, but now that I think about it, the indexing service might be. Disabling it completely might make your file searches slower, but it's probably worth a try. I prefer to keep it disabled even if it isn't causing trouble anyway because it just doesn't seem to make a difference.

So, no change for the time being?

yeah I cut down my processes and still no change.

what is the name of this indexing service? I'll try disabling it

yeah I cut down my processes and still no change.

what is the name of this indexing service? I'll try disabling it

SearchIndexer.exe

ok, I'll try that

Here's the solution:

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9877/hsusac1.jpg

(Credit to Jeremy "Norm" Scott.)

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I still have the same kind of lags after all this... one thing tho, I looked back at my nvidia settings in control panel, and the WA options never seem to stay, even if I apply them and save them... Everytime i go back, the wa profile is gone... help?

Seems to be a common problem according to this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/242491-15-nvidia-control-panel-save-settings

If it was me, I'd try replacing Nvidia's default control panel with RivaTuner: http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner

well actually i found out it is saving... and i keep fiddling with the settings and nothing is happening. :(

Perhaps a better description of my problem can help out? Really want this solved.. but it is basically a skipped frame or few. any actions taken on your KB at that time arent recognized at all... so yeah... it is like the frames don't exist. grasping at straws at this point, seeing as lag pretty much means missing frame.... right?

So it looks like frame skipping in an emulator? I think I have a similar problem though only with Worms 2.

Yes. They come in waves... when one wave starts, i'll get like a couple of frame skips every 3 seconds for 15 seconds, then the wave is over... then I don't know when the next wave will come but usually about 2 minutes.

One guy at iBuyPower said it could possibly be that worms is an old game and my graphics card is new technology... what do you think about that?

I found out a bug that caused screen lags for me. From settings go to advanced and don't tick "timer workaround". I don't know why, but it lags for me a lot.