I made this thread to discuss what this could be. Theres been alot of speculation but no official announcement yet:

http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/5b6ebdff7f5b9a24ca2575ca00062226/f27f369de66f6d21ca25789d005d6ade?OpenDocument

I'll speculate that it will be a 3D game based purely on the fact that it shares the word Mayhem with "Worms 4: Mayhem".

According to BillT17 towards the end of this thread (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40175), more information will be announced soon.

Today marks 1 months since this was unofficially announced. When can we expect an official announcement?

Afaik we will be doing an official announcement regarding this and Worms Crazy Golf in the next week or two.

....Which really means like in 3 months right?

Time has passed, maybe Team17 had had much work to do because of all the problems created by the Worms 2: Armageddon updates...

I'm not in a hurry, I can wait.

I can't lol too excited

I can't lol too excited

Ah, ah... so am I man, so am I... :cool:

I have been viewing these fourms forever! now I decided to make an account lol. I am dieing to know what this worms ultimate mayhem is! I honestly hope its 3D with a TON of content, I am talking 100+ weapons, amazing ways to build your own 3d level, a system for building your own very unique weapon with a way to make it more powerful but cost more to make rather than a power meter limiting you. and many missions and unlockables, and may dare hope for this!? Custom created Voices like in worms armageddon. good times lol. This is all wishful thinking but honestly a 3d worms game has so much potential to become the best game of all time. Looking anxious to this annoucement!

And yes worms for Wii U plz lol

I just want to know what it is already even if I can't play it :p

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46700

Maybe it's this... check it out. :cool:

it certainly could be:cool:

Yes it is.

Will it be a remake of the wonderful Worms 4: Mayhem?

Will it be a remake of the wonderful Worms 4: Mayhem?
Doubt it. Good chance of being a new 3D game, yes, but not a remake. T17 just have a... horrible way of naming their games.

Doubt it. Good chance of being a new 3D game, yes, but not a remake. T17 just have a... horrible way of naming their games.
After dozens of titles you're bound to run out of adjectives. :p

The title in this instance is very accurate. :) It's the Ultimate version of Worms 4: Mayhem with loads of improvements in it and a HD makeover along with extra content. I will be able to give you a full breakdown soon.

Gosh, I can't wait!

The title in this instance is very accurate. :) It's the Ultimate version of Worms 4: Mayhem with loads of improvements in it and a HD makeover along with extra content. I will be able to give you a full breakdown soon.
Damnit Bill, stop proving me wrong! I hate it when I'm wrong!

Still, that sounds... really awesome, actually! W4 is a fun game, but I can definitely see how it needs improvements. Particularly on the online side.

...
And, uh, might wanna get rid of the... uhh... jewels joke. Yeah. How did you even manage to get that through the censors anyway?

Damnit Bill, stop proving me wrong! I hate it when I'm wrong!

Still, that sounds... really awesome, actually! W4 is a fun game, but I can definitely see how it needs improvements. Particularly on the online side.

...
And, uh, might wanna get rid of the... uhh... jewels joke. Yeah. How did you even manage to get that through the censors anyway?

Nothing wrong with the jewels joke, maybe the ratings board didn't get it.

Are you going to re-insert the Sean Connery/Secret Agent voice?

It was awesome... :cool:

I hate it when I'm wrong!

Then... why are you always wrong?


Also, this sounds neat, but really, there's no such thing as an "HD" makeover for PC games that already supported large resolutions. Perhaps you mean improved textures, or increased polygon count, but the game itself could already run at High Definition. :p

HD is the new "buzz word". Just like next-gen was...

Anyways, hmm a new 3D title. I prefer 2D worms, but Reloaded frankly could be a lot better.

I hope I get in the beta and help you out (and maybe realize 3D Worms can be equally fun)!

Also, this sounds neat, but really, there's no such thing as an "HD" makeover for PC games that already supported large resolutions. Perhaps you mean improved textures, or increased polygon count, but the game itself could already run at High Definition. :p
Well to be fair the standard launcher didn't support HD resolutions (or anything decent really). :p

Will there be a Mac version? :p

Sounds exciting. Mayhem is great fun at some aspects, this will certainly be a nice replacement. Hope to help out with the beta.

The title in this instance is very accurate. :) It's the Ultimate version of Worms 4: Mayhem with loads of improvements in it and a HD makeover along with extra content. I will be able to give you a full breakdown soon.

Why does this sound very familiar?... Oh, yeah... I had this same idea like a year ago.

http://forum.team17.co.uk/showpost.php?p=728427&postcount=7

awesome bill! I have been dying for a new 3d worms game! I really hope this adds a TON of new weapons including Armageddon. I dont believe this ha been done on 3d yet. What i loved the most was to be able to go into the files and "tweak" weapons lmao. some ppl have made insanely funny weapons. When i first tried i made a grenade explode into a ton of holy hand grenades and blow up everything. and another made worms fly like 2 billion feet lmao. good laughs there for sure!

Will there be a Mac version? :p
I think you meant:
Will there be a Mac version that is cross-platform compatible with the PC version? :p

I think you meant:
Will there be a Mac version that is cross-platform compatible with the PC version? :p
Good point!

What he said :p

I hope the accessibility to XLA and PSN will bring many new players to the 3D Worms space. I think digital distribution might be the best way for people to experience this version of the game that hadn't gotten to in the past. I, personally, think Worms in 3D has a lot of room to grow where I feel the 2D versions are pretty close to hitting their potential with Worms 2: Armageddon. More weapons, customization, and maps can always be added, but I believe the gameplay has hit it's peak. 3D, on the other-hand, could be improved with better destructible environments, a fully realized map editor, and more creative weapons that take advantage of the perspective. Camera angles can always be improved, but I think Worms 4: Mayhem actually fared pretty well in that aspect. I would also enjoy to see many more recognizable environments such as the Helms Deep and Back to the Future clock tower that were present in that game.

http://www.thetechgame.com/Forums/t=1751680/worms-ultimate-mayhem-xbox-live-arcade-leaked-images.html

Well maybe it's just the beta version, but to me it seems the same graphics of Worms 4: Mayhem...

Waiting to be part of the Beta Testers group... :cool:

http://www.thetechgame.com/Forums/t=1751680/worms-ultimate-mayhem-xbox-live-arcade-leaked-images.html

That's just....

Oh damn I really hope this is fake. :(

It's not fake, but those are older shots and those shots don't do the game justice at all.

That's a good news, because if that graphics was HD... I prefer the original one. :cool:

It's not fake, but those are older shots and those shots don't do the game justice at all.

Damn... I actually posted on that site saying it was nothing more than Worms 4: Mayhem with someone altering the titles and what not. I'm sure it looks better now, but a little surprised that it turns out those were real.

To be honest, I'm kind of sick of the visual style of Worms 4: Mayhem, the appearance of the menus and the weapon panel. But that's probably just me, because I played it way too much. :p

It would still be great if the style was a bit different, maybe closer to Worms 3D, I loved the frontend, it was just perfect.

Damn... I actually posted on that site saying it was nothing more than Worms 4: Mayhem with someone altering the titles and what not. I'm sure it looks better now, but a little surprised that it turns out those were real.
I don't remember W4 having shading and shadows. At all.
Which actually seems really cool. I'd like to see how it turns out in the end, since those are obviously work-in-progress pics.

But yes, I think this does emphasise that it's not a remake*.





*Okay no we are not having this discussion again. You know what I meant.

I don't remember W4 having shading and shadows.

It does. :cool:

Yeah, I do hope it turns out more... um... remake-y. It's really just Mayhem (and in low-res, for that matter) in those shots. We'll see in the beta, at least. :D

I don't remember W4 having shading and shadows. At all.

Like Kilburn said, I do remember shadows in Worms 4. However, the only image that I did question was the Film Stock pic. All the other images seemed identical except for minor changes like titles, the xbox avatar, and the stock list which all could have been easily altered and/or added. Which is why I posted on the site that it was obviously fake (granted... I was obviously wrong).

As far as the Film Stock image, I don't remember that being included and was the only thing that did make me ponder. Knowing now that it's real, I assume it's some kind of clip save feature to allow those to keep some of their most memorable moments and even share amongst those online. This is just a theory and as I recall... I have been wrong before. ;)

To be honest, I'm kind of sick of the visual style of Worms 4: Mayhem, the appearance of the menus and the weapon panel. But that's probably just me, because I played it way too much. :p

It would still be great if the style was a bit different, maybe closer to Worms 3D, I loved the frontend, it was just perfect.
Personally I loved the Worms 4 interface, it was one of the more dynamic and cartoony frontends that fit the game style really well instead of just boring old lists like most games. And you could actually scroll through customizations. :p

I liked the weapons factory.
Looking forward to creating a multi-clustered toilet paper strike again. :D

It's strange...none of you noticed a very important thing in the images?
If you look better, you can see a new function: a landscape editor!

I can't believe it hasn't been said yet, expecially from the people who played Worms 4 for a long time. This is....just marvellous

I liked the weapons factory.
Looking forward to creating a multi-clustered toilet paper strike again. :D
I really hope it's more balanced this time around. In the original game, if you wanted the most powerful weapon, a single drop airstrike with just everything in power and push was the clear choice for any situation.

It's strange...none of you noticed a very important thing in the images?
If you look better, you can see a new function: a landscape editor!

I can't believe it hasn't been said yet, expecially from the people who played Worms 4 for a long time. This is....just marvellous
OH CRAP, THERE IS!

It's strange...none of you noticed a very important thing in the images?
If you look better, you can see a new function: a landscape editor!

I can't believe it hasn't been said yet, expecially from the people who played Worms 4 for a long time. This is....just marvellous
But we've always had a landscape editor for Worms 4... it was just unofficial. :p

But we've always had a landscape editor for Worms 4... it was just unofficial. :p

Yes, I know, Alexbond's map editor. I used that too, but having an internal landscape editor is surely a step forward.
Remember that the Alexbond's map editor wasn't so easy to use or better, not so easy to use for the vast majority of people playing that game.

NEEDS TO BE ON PS3 :D pleeeze!!

I'm a little surprised that I overlooked the landscape editor as well. As someone who plays the game mostly on consoles, this is an exciting feature. I hope there will also be the opportunity to share user created maps online and offer an option for people to rate them. Halo did a pretty solid job of that for Xbox and this game could benefit even more from it.

Something else I'd like to see is the inclusion of the Armageddon weapon. I remember this being explained away that it was hard to replicate in a 3D environment and since the perspective didn't allow for players to dig themselves underground, it wouldn't be a very useful weapon. However, on maps with buildings and taller structures, one could still hide and have a tactical advantage. On top of that, the weapon could be scaled back a little so that it doesn't do as much damage but still affects a lot of the landscape. The Concrete Donkey seemed to transition pretty well in my opinion and I believe the affect is close to that of the Armageddon weapon.

Landscapes... guys, if we are unlucky that feature only allows you to save randomly generated landscapes :p

So... basically, this is going to be Worms 4 with Steam support, updated graphics and additional features?

I was hoping for visual additions at least... such as new themes, maybe?

Landscapes... guys, if we are unlucky that feature only allows you to save randomly generated landscapes :p

So... basically, this is going to be Worms 4 with Steam support, updated graphics and additional features?

I was hoping for visual additions at least... such as new themes, maybe?

I have the same reserves about the landscape option. I noticed it was the only one that didn't use the word "create". It seems kinda curious so I'm just going to stay cautiously optimistic.

I have the same reserves about the landscape option. I noticed it was the only one that didn't use the word "create". It seems kinda curious so I'm just going to stay cautiously optimistic.

Yeah, I saw that too: rename and delete landscape

Landscapes... guys, if we are unlucky that feature only allows you to save randomly generated landscapes :p

So... basically, this is going to be Worms 4 with Steam support, updated graphics and additional features?

I was hoping for visual additions at least... such as new themes, maybe?

If the game is like Worms 4 you should know, Nils, that you can customize everything. That means you can modify the files to change a preesistent theme to another one of your pleasure. Anyway, it's better the development team adds something new, so I guess one - two more historical backgrounds couldn't be so bad (ideas are American Civilizations like Mayas and Victorian London, but also Space future).
By far, from the images, only more speechbanks and hats have been confirmed. I guess we need to wait till Monday or Tuesday to know the rest.
Before ending my intervention, I hope there would be:

a) A lobby like Worms 4 Mayhem and not a constipated one like Worms Reloaded (in that case, it's a bad start)
b) Possibility of customizing the game completely (I mean reskins and recolours of huds, weapons, frontend and so on, not necessary the changement of weapons values)
c) Garancy of the pro rope (but, seen they're using the same engine of Worms 4, it's obvious the ninja rope bug will appear again, so yeah!)

If the game is like Worms 4 you should know, Nils, that you can customize everything. That means you can modify the files to change a preesistent theme to another one of your pleasure.

This way, there could have been interesting modifications for Worms Reloaded already... :(
I guess there's to hope Ultimate Mayhem isn't going to disable you from playing online when you do any changes to its files.

[QUOTE=D_Wormkill;748148]Anyway, it's better the development team adds something new, so I guess one - two more historical backgrounds couldn't be so bad (ideas are American Civilizations like Mayas and Victorian London, but also Space future).

To be honest, I didn't reckon the game would be a remake of Worms 4 and expected all new graphics, themes and story modes. I really wish for a few new themes.
I think some time ago, Bill said Jay was working on Ultimate Mayhem. Hope he's creating new soundtracks for all new themes!

This way, there could have been interesting modifications for Worms Reloaded already... :(
I guess there's to hope Ultimate Mayhem isn't going to disable you from playing online when you do any changes to its files.

To be honest, I didn't reckon the game would be a remake of Worms 4 and expected all new graphics, themes and story modes. I really wish for a few all new themes.
I think some time ago, Bill said Jay was working on Ultimate Mayhem. Hope he's creating new soundtracks for all new themes!

Well, I agree with you about the part of modifications: at least, if they want to prevent "cheats", they surely know which files must be protected and blocked (local.xml as example, for the super overpowered team weapons).

Sounds good.

But please, put a new campaign in too. Cba playing the old one again.

At that stage (I dont know now, will see in the beta) it looks like worms 4 with achievements....I hope they enchanted the shaders more....
T17 is not insane enough to release a game that looks graphically the same as a 6 yo game (maybe 7 when gets released)....I can count on seeing several graphic enchantments in the final release....

Maybe we are in presence of the Worms world party of the 3D generation (staring W4M as ,the 3D gen, worms armageddon)....in that case this could become buyable by the ppl who enjoyed W4M and played it for a Very Long time (like me)....in other case I think this new title aims to ppl who havent even noticed the existance of worms 4 mayhem at all....
On the other hand, my experience in Worms 4 will become helpful in testing a game similar to it...There were a lot of bugs in worms 4 mayhem that MUST be fixed in this version....

First (official) screenshots are here. Looks exactly the same as W4:M...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150265084913476.348435.54059728475

First (official) screenshots are here. Looks exactly the same as W4:M...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150265084913476.348435.54059728475
Really? Because they look a good deal better than W4 to me.

Also, binoculars are new. Hm, gotta wonder what they're used for.

Well in my opinion the graphics is better.

First (official) screenshots are here. Looks exactly the same as W4:M...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150265084913476.348435.54059728475

President, you're a little bit blind, without offence. Haven't you noticed the worms are different from the ones of Worms 4?

Anyway...when does the beta start? Anybody has received the access code yet?

Anyway...when does the beta start? Anybody has received the access code yet?
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46702
That thread is for talking about Beta-related things, this thread is for talking about the game itself.

Also, no.

Graphics looks a step up from the old game. Good news if you ask me.

Haven't you noticed the worms are different from the ones of Worms 4?
No, I haven't. I even compared to some screenshots I googled and I can't see any difference (excluding lighting effects). http://media.pc.ign.com/media/724/724207/imgs_1.html

But it has been years since I played Mayhem.

Yeah the graphics do look better, not substantially but it's just a remake.

I want them to focus on the new weapons/features/whatever instead. :p

Edit:
Really? Because they look a good deal better than W4 to me.

Also, binoculars are new. Hm, gotta wonder what they're used for.
They were in W3D no?

Yeah the graphics do look better, not substantially but it's just a remake.

I want them to focus on the new weapons/features/whatever instead. :p

There are already new features and content announced. However, I agree with you about the weapons

Yeah the graphics do look better, not substantially but it's just a remake.

I want them to focus on the new weapons/features/whatever instead. :p

Edit:

They were in W3D no?

Yes they were in 3D but they do something different now, something much more useful.

Yes they were in 3D but they do something different now, something much more useful.

What, precisely? =P

They were in W3D no?

Yeah, and they were useless so taken out of Worms Forts and 3D. I wonder what they are in for again?

Yes they were in 3D but they do something different now, something much more useful.

Oh, sorry, didn't see this post :D

So what features make its use reasonable this time?

I can't wait for this to be out. I hope I can help with the testing, I already signed up. :D

I was actually hoping for some new themes but it doesn't look like it when you look at the images.

Nevertheless, I'm glad Team17 is finally coming out with a new Worms title that's going to be 3d.

Yeah, and they were useless
I used them to aim for long range shots with other weapons by switching without moving the mouse cursor.
What, precisely? =P
Maybe high-precision airstrike targeting.

I used them to aim for long range shots with other weapons by switching without moving the mouse cursor.

What long range shots? All handguns, such as shotgun, uzi or blowpipe make the crosshair waggle so it's not really possible to "switch" between binoculars and handguns.

Weapons like bazookas or grenades haven't got a straight trajectory, so I don't see any use for that either.

As you know, in Worms 4 the binoculars have been "merged" with the shotgun to a sniper, actually allowing precise long range shots, I thought that was a much better idea.

Still, I want to know what new features the binoculars offer this time :D

Yeah, hiding random info like that isn't cool. "Nyah, nyah! I know something you don't know!" What do the binoculars now do, Bill?

Binoculars now serve as an accurate guide for beginners as it shows you the required angle and power of the Bazooka that you need to hit the target shown in the Binoculars. At the easiest difficulty there are lots of these and as the difficulty gets harder there are less and then none available.

difficulty
What?


Close one door and open another, eh Bill?

Well I hope only that he is going to open the beta...

I'm really excited! :D

What?


Close one door and open another, eh Bill?

It's linked to schemes Worms has schemes set to Beginner, Intermediate and Pro which alter things like weapons and turn time.

Well I hope only that he is going to open the beta...

I'm really excited! :D

I hope he is going to open the beta this week

Your sentence needed a fix.

So binoculars are that weapon! lol

What long range shots? All handguns, such as shotgun, uzi or blowpipe make the crosshair waggle so it's not really possible to "switch" between binoculars and handguns.
I am quite positive that you could virtually circumvent that waggling by switching to the other weapon followed by hammering the space bar to fire it as quickly as possible.

First (official) screenshots are here. Looks exactly the same as W4:M...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150265084913476.348435.54059728475

Some of them look a lot better than W4M.....mostly the shaders....

Oh hey, is it just me, or is that some kind of mirror thing on the screenshot above the shotgun?! :eek:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150265086003476&set=a.10150265084913476.348435.54059728475&type=1&theater

It does look like a mirror, but no it's once of the changes to the camera where you see some of the action in a "picture in picture" mode. Often you would have to fight with the camera to see the outcome of a shot you made. This feature helps you see more.

they've revealed the hud, pretty much the same as in worms 4. Except for, it appears someone finally made some new weapons artwork!

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262496_10150265764713476_54059728475_7493570_87457 2_n.jpg
. .

I drew the screenshot in Paint.NET (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint.NET)
http://s43.radikal.ru/i099/1107/74/40ee575f156b.jpg
I want to, to be so in Worms Ultimate Mayhem :cool:

Hope there is some new weapons - similar to the ones suggested last year for Worms Reloaded - such as The One legged Giraffe - or similar to that (can't remember the actual name). Hope the Ming Vase makes a comeback!!!

The One legged Giraffe
You're surely thinking of the Angular Wooden Giraffe.

It was an actual wooden giraffe, placed on the desktop of one of the Teamsters and it's considered to be the deity of the Greysiders in Worms folklore.
AFAIK, it's not one-legged, but one-eared, having one of it's wooden ears broken off.

From the WWP Wormopedia (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/brainfossil/wwp2006-04-2707-56-16-64.png):
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/443/83oj6.png

A WWP mission map (http://www.wmdb.org/609):
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/871/giraffe1.jpg

From the W3D Wormopedia:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2409/giraffe2.jpg

Original T17 Wormnet Snooper avatar:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7786/woodengiraffe.png

Original T17 Wormnet Snooper sound:
http://www.mediafire.com/?detydkfnhzn (.wav file)

very good looking game:cool:

i think this is what it is

http://www.shacknews.com/article/69451/worms-ultimate-mayhem-revamps-3d-wrigglefests

I don't know if many other forum members share the same view, however, I was slightly disappointed to find out that Worms 4 Mayhem didn't include weapon keyboard shortcuts (F1-F12). I'm assuming majority (if not all) Worm titles prior to it had them. Provided that they're not already included and since I'm not in the beta to suggest it; it be great if there was still time, resources, will power, etc. to implement them.

We're they removed from Worms 4 Mayhem for gameplay balance reasons? If so then my other suggestion would be to put them back in as a weapon scheme tick box option or worms pot mode. Take care.

P. S. - My sincere apologies if this post should've been in a separate/existing thread (I searched: "keyboard" and "shortcut"; found nothing).

Will the PC version retain support for the Xbox360 controller (as well as Keyboard/Mouse)?

In which way is that game an improvement to the last 3d titles if it even has less weapons than 3d and Mayhem? Seriously, what the heck? 38 is ridiculous low.

In which way is that game an improvement to the last 3d titles if it even has less weapons than 3d and Mayhem? Seriously, what the heck? 38 is ridiculous low.

38 weapons is the same amount of weapons you use on Worms 4 Mayhem

Well, there are binoculars, so they had to take something out of the original game in order to keep the amount of weapons...?

Well, there are binoculars, so they had to take something out of the original game in order to keep the amount of weapons...?

It seems not. Because, looking at the inventory, there are the same amount of spaces. Unless....they don't consider the utilities as weapons

It seems not. Because, looking at the inventory, there are the same amount of spaces. Unless....they don't consider the utilities as weapons

I do hope so. Since I absolutely see no reason to remove weapons from a game, which calls itself an upgrade of Worms 3D and Worms 4 Mayhem.

Sprites, 3D models, Source Code + everything else is already available to them, thanks to 3D and Mayhem, so why remove weapons then (IF tools are considered to be weapons)?

:confused::confused:

If you have the "Kitchen Sink" scheme then there are no gaps in the weapons panel at all.

And thus, Billothy FINALLY clarified what "38 weapons" meant!

If you have the "Kitchen Sink" scheme then there are no gaps in the weapons panel at all.

Does that mean that at least one weapon from Worms 4 Mayhem will be removed? Worm Select wasn't in Worms 4 if I remember correctly. It would be a shame because I can't think of a single weapon that was redundant or useless. Except maybe the Cluster Bomb, but that thing has always been useless, a small buff wouldn't help.

Well I really hope the current size of the weapon panel is temporary, it would be really cool to have an extra column, or at least an extra row for all the great weapons from Worms 3D that didn't make it into Worms 4. Lottery Strike was an interesting concept, it simply needed a slight damage buff, and the Mega Mine was quite a comical addition, it could be also quite strategical if it wasn't so powerful.

Edit:

Oops, looks like I forgot everything from Worms 4 Mayhem, Worm Select has always been there and there are actually four empty slots, one in the weapons section and three in the utilities section. Fair enough, I guess, that's one more weapon from Worms 3D, the binoculars and two other utilities. I'd still have liked a bigger weapons panel though. :(

Does that mean that at least one weapon from Worms 4 Mayhem will be removed? Worm Select wasn't in Worms 4 if I remember correctly. It would be a shame because I can't think of a single weapon that was redundant or useless. Except maybe the Cluster Bomb, but that thing has always been useless, a small buff wouldn't help.

Well I really hope the current size of the weapon panel is temporary, it would be really cool to have an extra column, or at least an extra row for all the great weapons from Worms 3D that didn't make it into Worms 4. Lottery Strike was an interesting concept, it simply needed a slight damage buff, and the Mega Mine was quite a comical addition, it could be also quite strategical if it wasn't so powerful.

Edit:

Oops, looks like I forgot everything from Worms 4 Mayhem, Worm Select has always been there and there are actually four empty slots, one in the weapons section and three in the utilities section. Fair enough, I guess, that's one more weapon from Worms 3D, the binoculars and two other utilities. I'd still have liked a bigger weapons panel though. :(

I bet one utility will be freeze. Probably the other is going to be invisibility. And about the last weapon...sticky bomb? Pipegun? Lottery strike?

I bet one utility will be freeze. Probably the other is going to be invisibility. And about the last weapon...sticky bomb? Pipegun? Lottery strike?

Freeze would be redundant since we have Bubble Trouble already. They aren't exactly the same weapon, Bubble Trouble doesn't end your turn but doesn't protect you from close ranged attacks, but they share the same purpose. Plus, Freeze is a rather boring weapon when you think of it, it's not particularly useful unless there are more than 2 players.

Invisibility could be nice too. Sticky bomb, I don't know, in the end it works just like a bazooka that isn't affected by wind and can explode before hitting terrain. They should make it last a few turns rather than exploding after a few seconds, this way you'd be able to stick it to worms and have them detonate a few turns later.
Lottery Strike was cool but way too underpowered. The damage done should be between 1 and 75 with a higher probability for values that are close to 30, then it would be more interesting.

I wish they had have worked on a new 2d worms game, worms doesn't quite work in 3d. Not sure if i'll buy this or not.

Do what ever you want, you can't stop me from having more fun in 3D.

I wonder if you can switch between Worms 3D and worms 4 model?
I loved the worms in 3D but didn't liked as much the one in 4

Recently they've done 2D games for almost every console there is, so there's plenty to choose from.

Recently they've done 2D games for almost every console there is, so there's plenty to choose from.

I wish they had worked on a new good 2d worms game. It's been ages since the last good one.

...Worms Reloaded? Or, wait, Worms Open Warfare 2 DS? That one was great.

I'm sorry they haven't done a 2D game that pleased you, I've had my joy at least.

...Worms Reloaded? Or, wait, Worms Open Warfare 2 DS? That one was great.

I'm sorry they haven't done a 2D game that pleased you, I've had my joy at least.

I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed WR, but it was still bad. Not in a "oh, this game doesn't have what I want" sense, but in a "physics are ****ty, multiplayer is bug ridden, front end is awful, gameplay is too limited, no cross-platform play between mac and pc version" sense. The game reeks of awful design and crappy programming.

Open Warfare 2 DS doesn't count as it wasn't made by T17. :p

I wish they had have worked on a new 2d worms game, worms doesn't quite work in 3d. Not sure if i'll buy this or not.It works way better in 3d for me.

Open Warfare 2 DS doesn't count as it wasn't made by T17. :p

If you say so. Using the same engine as WWP and Sprites and Soundtracks taken from the PSP version, it's actually just like Two Tribes imported WWP to the DS, but whatever you say :p

Also, no, WR is not bad. The arguments you stated are your very own opinion, like the physics which are IMO way better than the old ones.

Hey guys, how about a compromise? What about we agree that Worms Reloaded is... a game? We can all agree on that, right? Yes? Good. Now lets get back to the topic on hand before you two start yet another "Worms has/hasn't been fun since X" argument.

If you say so. Using the same engine as WWP and Sprites and Soundtracks taken from the PSP version, it's actually just like Two Tribes imported WWP to the DS, but whatever you say :p

Also, no, WR is not bad. The arguments you stated are your very own opinion, like the physics which are IMO way better than the old ones.

C'mon guy. You cannot possibly say that the broken multiplayer, the uselessness of the scheme editor or the hideous frontend are a matter of opinion. This game has about the same build quality as your average shovelware, everything just seems lazily done... hell, even the missions are just a bunch of deathmatches on terrains taken from the random generator...

C'mon guy. You cannot possibly say that the broken multiplayer, the uselessness of the scheme editor or the hideous frontend are a matter of opinion. This game has about the same build quality as your average shovelware, everything just seems lazily done... hell, even the missions are just a bunch of deathmatches on terrains taken from the random generator...

You forgot to say a crappy lobby that is a complete joke, not indicating people playing, without a chat pre-entering a game and that contributed a lot to the decline of this game.

PS: I really hope that the new Worms hasn't the same awful stupid lobby.

O:
I had no problems with anything (I saw yet, because I still don't own it and I play at friends) in Worms Reloaded, it's actually quite a good game IMO.

Welp, at least I can say I tried.

Welp, at least I can say I tried.

No .

Well what shall I say. Boring campaigns and hideous frontends aren't a matter of gameplay to me.

The only thing I might agree with is that Worms Reloaded barely features any scheme options nor is it mod-friendly, and W:A is a better game in that matter.

Yet, since the W:A community can't think of anything but rope based schemes and the "normal" players are about to die out anyway, I can just as well play Worms Reloaded.

It features the same classic gameplay that the original Worms did, and I loved that game. I still play that game. It's best when you got a couple of friends home to play a few matches :) So... not a bad game at all.

Yet, since the W:A community can't think of anything but rope based schemes and the "normal" players are about to die out anyway, I can just as well play Worms Reloaded.

How many times are we going to correct you on that? If I can't find a deathmatch game hosted, I type: !host intermediate and I am guaranteed at least two players joining instantly.

And I only have to type it because I haven't switched ISPs yet.

Guys, if you want to go offtopic, go make a topic on it.
You think we will ahve some news on the GamesCon?

i think this is what it is

http://www.shacknews.com/article/69451/worms-ultimate-mayhem-revamps-3d-wrigglefests

The article says it's a revamp of 3D and 4 Mayhem.
Does that mean it has all the weapons and levels from 3D too and not just from 4 Mayhem?

Well what shall I say. Boring campaigns and hideous frontends aren't a matter of gameplay to me.

The only thing I might agree with is that Worms Reloaded barely features any scheme options nor is it mod-friendly, and W:A is a better game in that matter.

Yet, since the W:A community can't think of anything but rope based schemes and the "normal" players are about to die out anyway, I can just as well play Worms Reloaded.

It features the same classic gameplay that the original Worms did, and I loved that game. I still play that game. It's best when you got a couple of friends home to play a few matches :) So... not a bad game at all.

The W:A community might be dwindling, but what can you expect from a game that isn't quite on many people's radar and isn't particularly easy to get a hold of? If W:A was brought to steam I can guarantee you it would outperform W:R in a very short time. Because the game actually encourages people to spend time with it rather than being just another cheap game you only play when you have half an hour to spare and are bored to tears.

And your enjoyment of the game is just a testament to the fun that is the core concept of worms. Some game concepts can still be fun even when delivered poorly. But a poor delivery is still a poor delivery, no matter how fun the game is.

So uh, you guys know this thread is about WUM and not past Worms games, right?

So uh, you guys know this thread is about WUM and not past Worms games, right?

Oh no, we veered off topic. The world is going to end!

And stuff.

So uh, you guys know this thread is about WUM and not past Worms games, right?

Not like there's much left to discuss about WUM. Right now it looks just like W4M with minor graphics improvements. Even if those improvements are extremely hard to implement (which I strongly doubt), it doesn't make such a difference in the screenshots. I guess the final product will look more... different.

I know it's not particularly nice to say that but I have to agree that Team17 hasn't put any apparent effort in any of their games after Worms 4 Mayhem. Heck, even Worms 4 showed a few minor lazy design aspects, but that was completely forgivable at the time because of the huge effort put into making the worms look more emotional, heck that was pretty impressive.

Also Worms 3D was a masterpiece if you ignore the poor controls and camera. The transition between 2D and 3D was hard to do but the awesome frontend, the great missions and the whole feeling brought by environmental sounds made it quite unique. I wish they could put as much effort in a new game as they did back then. If the "major breakthrough" here is "HD" graphics, like it has always been for most of the console ports, I guess I'll still buy it just for the sake of replaying Worms 3D missions, but that won't go any further than that.

I'd also take the Worms Open Warfare series into account, both games were pretty unique as Team17 made up an all new physics and graphic engine. Only then they started porting and porting and revamping, every new game was just a port of an older one (albeit with updated physics and minor additions).

I'd also take the Worms Open Warfare series into account, both games were pretty unique as Team17 made up an all new physics and graphic engine. Only then they started porting and porting and revamping, every new game was just a port of an older one (albeit with updated physics and minor additions).

Well the physics were the same but they introduced cool things such as magnets, map events and lightning strikes. I wouldn't mind map events in Worms Ultimate Mayhem. I wonder how it would play with a lot of fog, that could be an additional use for the binoculars.

Yeah... but the physics were all new...?

I thought you've seen Angelus complaining about the physics, why would he if they were the same as W:A :p

The article says it's a revamp of 3D and 4 Mayhem.
Does that mean it has all the weapons and levels from 3D too and not just from 4 Mayhem?
Weapons? No. There's a few weapons/utilities in WUM not in W4M (dunno what they are, but there's at least one weapon and three utilities), but really it's supposed to be W4M with the good parts of W3D added in.

There is W3D missions and themes though, that is confirmed.

Yeah... but the physics were all new...?

I thought you've seen Angelus complaining about the physics, why would he if they were the same as W:A :p

Pretty much sure he was complaining about the physics in WR. Worms Open Warfare 2 DS had the same physics as W:A.

Weapons? No. There's a few weapons/utilities in WUM not in W4M (dunno what they are, but there's at least one weapon and three utilities), but really it's supposed to be W4M with the good parts of W3D added in.

There is W3D missions and themes though, that is confirmed.

I really hope they put the music and environmental sounds back, those were awesome. Worms 4 felt a lot more silent compared to Worms 3D, no walking noises, no deploy sounds, heck they even removed the music from the Super Sheep, even though the sounds are still in the game and can be added back. :eek:

Pretty much sure he was complaining about the physics in WR. Worms Open Warfare 2 DS had the same physics as W:A.

Talking about the PSP version here. That's the one developed by Team17.

I really hope they put the music and environmental sounds back, those were awesome. Worms 4 felt a lot more silent compared to Worms 3D, no walking noises, no deploy sounds, heck they even removed the music from the Super Sheep, even though the sounds are still in the game and can be added back. :eek:

I think Jay is working on that, Bill said so at least :) Also, um... From what I can tell from a certain source I know, I'm pretty sure about that.

Weapons? No. There's a few weapons/utilities in WUM not in W4M (dunno what they are, but there's at least one weapon and three utilities), but really it's supposed to be W4M with the good parts of W3D added in.

There is W3D missions and themes though, that is confirmed.

Well, I'm not buying it then, I wanted a remake of worms 3D with stuff from worms 4, not the opposite. Had fun while it last, have fun guys.

You know, you could still enter the beta and give it a try for free.

Personally I don't understand the notion that Worms 3D was better than Worms 4, but that might just be a matter of taste. Worms 3D had a fundamental flaw in that without the heightmapped super-resistant land at the bottom it was far too easy to create sink holes in the purely voxel based world. Pretty much every single battle with only a few exceptions boiled down to "blast hole in floor with a single explosion, prod worm through hole into water".

I thought Worms 4 was as good as 3 dimensional Worms was going to get and they removed a ton of useless fluff and added a lot of very sensible features IMO. Admittedly I still think that Worms in 3 dimensions has a bunch of fundamental flaws that can't be solved in any practical way but for the massive improvements it made I felt Worms 4 went underappreciated. It was actually a pretty good game all things considered.

Personally I don't understand the notion that Worms 3D was better than Worms 4, but that might just be a matter of taste. Worms 3D had a fundamental flaw in that without the heightmapped super-resistant land at the bottom it was far too easy to create sink holes in the purely voxel based world. Pretty much every single battle with only a few exceptions boiled down to "blast hole in floor with a single explosion, prod worm through hole into water".

I thought Worms 4 was as good as 3 dimensional Worms was going to get and they removed a ton of useless fluff and added a lot of very sensible features IMO. Admittedly I still think that Worms in 3 dimensions has a bunch of fundamental flaws that can't be solved in any practical way but for the massive improvements it made I felt Worms 4 went underappreciated. It was actually a pretty good game all things considered.

Nah I never said that, Worms 4 is certainly overall better than Worms 3D, but it lacks all the cool sounds effects from Worms 3D, and personally I think the explosions looked better and the missions were more challenging and memorable. It also had a really cool frontend, it was like Team17 tried to remake WWP but in 3D. The sounds were the same, the frontend had the same structure, and they were planning a bunch of weapons from WA, hence the huge weapons panel. From WWP to this, you could feel they poured all their heart into it, and that's a feeling that all the new games lack.

Or maybe I'm just making this up because I was still a kid when I played it, I don't know. Just mentioning Worms 3D because it's the game that left me with the best memories.

The sounds were the same, the frontend had the same structure, and they were planning a bunch of weapons from WA, hence the huge weapons panel. From WWP to this, you could feel they poured all their heart into it, and that's a feeling that all the new games lack.
So you think a game that copies directly from its previous three games, has half as much weapons as they first wanted to have, has a HUGE gameplay flaw that would have been easy to fix, and that carried promises that never came through (remember that map editor we were supposed to have?) is an example of a company pouring its heart into a game. Riiiight.

So you think a game that copies directly from its previous three games, has half as much weapons as they first wanted to have, has a HUGE gameplay flaw that would have been easy to fix, and that carried promises that never came through (remember that map editor we were supposed to have?) is an example of a company pouring its heart into a game. Riiiight.

That's still the biggest amount of effort they're going to put into a single game. It was made from scratch after all, unlike a certain Worms Armageddon.

Just tell me if you can think of any better example instead of being all smug and sarcastic as you always are.

There better be some new single player levels! Completed Worms 4 Mayhem, and pretty much Worms 3D at mission 34.

But I have to say I don't mind replaying the Worms 3D campaign since it is probably one of the best campaigns.

In Worms: Ultimate Mayhem will be 38 weapons. All from Worms 4: Mayhem and one new - Binocular. This is 39. And we have 3 free slots. Can you add in this 3 slots "Sticky Bomb" (this one was very useful in Worms 3D), "Bridge Kit" and "Teleport"?

Anyone know when the testing begins?? And will there be a combination of weapons from previous Worms games, both 2D and 3D - as that will be Ultimate Mayhem!!

I think the beta will start today because of this message on the Worms official Facebook page:

"Thought you might appreciate this bit of Worms artwork from the archives. Probably means more to those in the UK than anywhere else. If Worms were to get onto the TV, what show would they be in do you think? In other news we will be putting your Ultimate Mayhem questions to the designers tomorrow, so if you've thought of something you want to ask then fire away."

Monday 8 August 2011 - 6:21 p.m.

Maybe when they'll start answering questions they'll also release the beta.

Hope so!! Fingers crossed!!

When beta is starting?

I was wrong... still nothing... :(

Alas...so close yet so far...

No need to throw around "It might be today!" comments every other day. We'll get it when we do, a'ight?

No need to throw around "It might be today!" comments every other day. We'll get it when we do, a'ight?

It might be today

Also just uploaded a few more shots to the Worms FB page along with a brief Q & A from our design manager.

It might be today

http://bubbles62681.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/hooray.png?w=400&h=400

It might be today

That's awesome. I hope so :)

Maybe today!?
It's the third best day of my life.

Wow another 3D title, I liked the 3D titles so far, the ones I played are the original 3D title and Mayhem, this one looks very interesting and from what I've read on wikipedia it will have both weapons from the original and Mayhem, I've missed some weapons from the original anyway like the uzis.

According to the wikipedia it will be at quarter 4 this year which means October, November or December.

So WUM will be W4M with some extra stuff from W3D? In that case I hope they bring back the Horror Theme and the great missions it had. The Trial of the Damned? and the one with Van Wormsing. Also I really hope they remake the Fire Punch in 3D. It's great for melee, yea, but there's a small posibility from hitting an enemy from below. But I am disappointed if they don't add brand new items, customizations and remake the Weapon Editor (It was lacking, and there is no reason to make anything except Air Strikes)

Team 17, can you tell - how soon beta test will begin? Tomorrow or next week?...

And one more question: can you add in W: UM "Nuclear bomb" from Worms 3D? Or just replace "Flood". Nuclear bomb sounds and looks better.

I am kind of having doubts of the game working for me though :/ (my pc has like shader 1.4 darn)

will the game have new soundtracks or they will be the soundtracks from worms 4 mayhem and 3d ?
I didn't liked the ones from worms 4 mayhem but I liked the worms 3d tracks.

will the game have new soundtracks or they will be the soundtracks from worms 4 mayhem and 3d ?
I didn't liked the ones from worms 4 mayhem but I liked the worms 3d tracks.

I love original Worms 3D soundtrack. This is awesome, specially War and Horror themes. I don't want new music.

I love original Worms 3D soundtrack. This is awesome, specially War and Horror themes. I don't want new music.

I'm sorry for you, but John Dennis already said that the soundtrack will be completly new (read HERE (http://www.facebook.com/notes/team17-software-ltd/worms-ultimate-mayhem-qa/10150330034165266)).

I'm sorry for you, but John Dennis already said that the soundtrack will be completly new (read HERE (http://www.facebook.com/notes/team17-software-ltd/worms-ultimate-mayhem-qa/10150330034165266)).

Ohh... :( Bad, bad... No more ideal War theme music... Sometimes we can hear main Worms theme on it...This is was excellent... Damn.

How much are we (the beta testers) allowed to say about the audio examples we've heard so far?

Being uncertain about that, I'll simply say that I love the new audio. And SHASHA_WRX, I think I could calm you, but unfortunately I cannot say why I could. Yet.

please tell me there is more than 38-39 weapons!! if its ultimate mayhem it should have a whole ton of weapons to choose from. I feel that armageddon had the most to choose from. Can someone calm me of this lol

How much are we (the beta testers) allowed to say about the audio examples we've heard so far?

Being uncertain about that, I'll simply say that I love the new audio. And SHASHA_WRX, I think I could calm you, but unfortunately I cannot say why I could. Yet.

Hm... Maybe soundtrack will good... Just im big fanat of Worms 3D.

please tell me there is more than 38-39 weapons!! if its ultimate mayhem it should have a whole ton of weapons to choose from. I feel that armageddon had the most to choose from. Can someone calm me of this lolSee the Q&A (http://www.facebook.com/notes/team17-software-ltd/worms-ultimate-mayhem-qa/10150330034165266).

How much are we (the beta testers) allowed to say about the audio examples we've heard so far?
Pretty much nothing. Only half of the NDA's purpose is to stop people from talking about how buggy or imbalanced the game is in it's beta stage, the other half is to stop people from getting hyped up about things that may not be in the final game.
For example, in this case, it's still very possible that the music will have to be completely redone.

I could careless if Team17 recycled old stuff, as long as there's at least a bit of mixture of new content in the game as well.

So, what about beta test?

What support will this game have after release?

We're already working on content we're planning to release post-launch. We've got some great things in store, with a mixture of free and paid content updates to extend the life of the game, as well as planned tech support should any unforeseen issues arise with the game post-release.

>>> haha planned tech support unforeseen issues > this not apply to Worms 2: Armageddon, only the DLC part?

Any roads this game needs to support Y axis inversion for me to even consider it otherwise ill struggle on with W2:A

Pretty sure the 3D games have always had Invert Axis settings.

Not sure if a release date has been talked about but i can't really be bothered to look through this whole thread.

Will this game be out this year or next year?

This year.

This year.

aka 1 week and a half :)

http://store.steampowered.com/app/70600/

:D

http://store.steampowered.com/app/70600/

:D

Wow! It's... cheap! I mean, wow. I really didn't expect that. I wasn't too sure before whether I really want this game because I've already got Worms 4 :)

Also... no TF2 hat, apparently.

LOL it's cheaper than W:R! :D Cool, I'm probably going to buy a pack (W:R + WUM).

aka 1 week and a half :)

On xbla too?

On xbla too?

Yup http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/cool.gif

I hope you have really made a good multiplayer game and a MP system as well. Something which would be similar to old Worms games on PC. Worms Reloaded multiplayer is useless and flawed.

Worms Reloaded multiplayer is useless and flawed.

Isn'thttp://forum.team17.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=754036

oh shoot. I wasn't even able to play the beta. well I guess I could just buy it on the playstation network

Yup http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/cool.gif

Great, didn't think it was coming til later in the year.

40 weapons. Disappointing.

Yup http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/cool.gif

How do you know, source?

How do you know, source?

Do I need a proper source for this? Team17 (Bill) announced everywhere - here on the forum, on Facebook etc. - that Ultimate Mayhem will release for PS3, Steam and XBLA.

Do I need a proper source for this? Team17 (Bill) announced everywhere - here on the forum, on Facebook etc. - that Ultimate Mayhem will release for PS3, Steam and XBLA.

He was referring to the September 21st date. Yes, it's coming to all those platforms but there hasn't been an official date announced for XBLA or PSN. I would venture to guess that the console versions would arrive before December, but we'll have to wait to get word from the developer.

He was referring to the September 21st date.

Why did he quote my post, then?

Beeeecause that's what you said.




This year.
aka 1 week and a half :)
On xbla too?
Yup http://forum.team17.co.uk/images/newsmilies/cool.gif

why is there no WUM subforum?

Beeeecause that's what you said.

I thought he wanted to ask whether the game is gonna release for XBox at all. Because what reason would there be to release it later than the Steam/PS3 version?

I thought he wanted to ask whether the game is gonna release for XBox at all. Because what reason would there be to release it later than the Steam/PS3 version?

"aka 1 week and a half"
"on xbla too?"

Seems pretty obvious that what he wanted to know if the "1 week and a half" release date was for the xbla version as well.

Do I need a proper source for this? Team17 (Bill) announced everywhere - here on the forum, on Facebook etc. - that Ultimate Mayhem will release for PS3, Steam and XBLA.

Yeah I was asking if the September 21st release date was true for XBLA, if so its perfect for me since I have a day off college on that date. :D

"aka 1 week and a half"
"on xbla too?"

Seems pretty obvious that what he wanted to know if the "1 week and a half" release date was for the xbla version as well.

That question still didn't make sense to me so I was assuming the next possible option :p

He was referring to the September 21st date. Yes, it's coming to all those platforms but there hasn't been an official date announced for XBLA or PSN. I would venture to guess that the console versions would arrive before December, but we'll have to wait to get word from the developer.

So it's not coming to xbla this month? :confused:

So it's not coming to xbla this month? :confused:

There has been no statement from Team17 regarding a release date for XBLA or PSN as of yet. I cannot say definitively that it will not arrive this month, but I would believe that the chances are slim. I would lean more towards an October release if everything goes well.

I just caught up with this and have to say I'm really delighted to see W4:M being re-released on Steam! Even better it's only 5 days away, hopefully I'll see some of you online :)

To be honest, when I first heard of it I was hoping for an all new game and not just a remake, but I guess I'll be fine with it anway :p

I just caught up with this and have to say I'm really delighted to see W4:M being re-released on Steam! Even better it's only 5 days away, hopefully I'll see some of you online :)

Tut. Would be nice for Bill (think that's his name) to comment on this...

Tut. Would be nice for Bill (think that's his name) to comment on this...

Comment on what?

Comment on what?

Have you even read anything i've posted?

Comment on when the game will be released on xbla.

Have you even read anything i've posted?

Comment on when the game will be released on xbla.

What game?

Have you even read anything i've posted?

Comment on when the game will be released on xbla.
I... think you quoted the wrong post.

I just caught up with this and have to say I'm really delighted to see W4:M being re-released on Steam! Even better it's only 5 days away, hopefully I'll see some of you online :)

Comment on that.

Have you even read anything i've posted?

No, I haven't.

Comment on that.

Ahh well I that's only what Steam says I guess. I have no idea how official that is.

I... think you quoted the wrong post.

Yeah sorry i did.

It's been a while since I've posted, I wanted to sure my guess were rights.

So, is there an option to have the Worms 3D texture pack?
All I see is dark textures, where are those super flashy green of worms 3D?

screns of what I mean:
can we have this set of colors
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/12/87/63/33/worms311.jpg
instead of
http://img.jeuxvideo.fr/photo/00114868-photo-worms-4-mayhem.jpg

It's been a while since I've posted, I wanted to sure my guess were rights.

So, is there an option to have the Worms 3D texture pack?
All I see is dark textures, where are those super flashy green of worms 3D?

screns of what I mean:
can we have this set of colors
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/12/87/63/33/worms311.jpg
instead of
http://img.jeuxvideo.fr/photo/00114868-photo-worms-4-mayhem.jpg

I'm pretty sure that this theme + level is in the game since Worms Ultimate Mayhem will have more than 12 different themes (3D + Mayhem probably combined).

Sounds it's like Sonic Generation, I'll only play half of the game :P
But that's still a lot better then what I expected, I didn't thought they would bring back those delicious colors, thought they would make the whole game feel "worms 4ish".

Well, I'm back on the forum then. If the game comes out before november on 360 i'm getting it
edit: and at max 800 ms since I won't be playing the whole game.

wow I didn't even know this was a thing that was being released.

Just saw the new trailer, the game indeed have some flashy levels.
Will try the demo when it comes out for sure.
What I'm suprised though is that the game was all about a new shadow engine, but the shadows are still very pixelated, it's just old footage or it will stay the same?(Not that I care, just wanted to point that out)

[...] but the shadows are still very pixelated, it's just old footage or it will stay the same?(Not that I care, just wanted to point that out)

I'm not sure how much I can tell being under the NDA but they aren't pixelated, the trailers seem to use old footage indeed.

Thanks for clearing that out.