Hey guys.
I see a lot of you are still using ms paint to make your fan art. I just thought I'd give you all a tip. There is a free application called Gimp wich is essentially a poor mans Photoshop, and it's free!

You can paint, use layers and add effects!

Check it out! ;-)
http://www.gimp.org/

(Man this post felt like an advertisement :-p)

(Man this post felt like an advertisement :-p)that's because it IS an advertisement! you get a job with the gimp people recently? :p

hahaha I wish. :-p

I was just browsing the fan art forum and seeing that people still are using paint when there are better alternatives that are free available ;-)

Paint is a subtle, beautiful artform. :cool:

Honestly? I tried gimp and I hate it. I still love paint

Gimp is as pretty much any open source project, really poorly thought out. Paint is fast, simple and the lack of anti-aliasing gives the art a whole new charm.

All I don't like about Paint is the missing ability of zooming out. Also, sometimes it crashes if images are too huge (anyone else got that problem, by the way?)

All I don't like about Paint is the missing ability of zooming out. Also, sometimes it crashes if images are too huge (anyone else got that problem, by the way?)bitmaps are data whores. making a large bitmap would be a good way to crash your system, yes. you could try getting more RAM. it should help.

Kjatte, here's what your post actually looked like:
Hey guys.
I see a lot of you are still using ms paint to make your fan art. I'm assuming it's because you have never heard that there are drawing programs other than ms paint. Rather than give you a list of recommended art programs and good reasons to switch, I am instead going to link you to a single program and tell you nothing about it.

You can draw with it!

Check it out! Non-standard smileyface.
www.DirectLink.com/

(Man this post felt like an advertisement and I am doing nothing to remedy that. Another smileyface.)

....okay that's probably a bit harsh, but either way it looks a lot less like a word of advice and much more like the words of a spambot.

I was just browsing the fan art forum and seeing that people still are using paint when there are better alternatives that are free available ;-)Most people just use MSPaint for the style, not because they're poor hungry peasants without a choice.

Plus GIMP's interface is an unstable cluster**** waiting to happen. At least other stuff like Paint.NET (http://www.getpaint.net) is more humane.

All I don't like about Paint is the missing ability of zooming out. Also, sometimes it crashes if images are too huge (anyone else got that problem, by the way?)
In Windows 7 MSPaint you can zoom out.

Plasma, here's what your post actually looked like:Kjatte, I am a self-important nimrod who likes to mock people with little to no reason. Today you're the one I'm going to flame relentlessly! You're a big meany and I hate you and your telling people about a free art program that you like. I don't like that program, so clearly your opinion can't be right as my opinion is the only one that matters.

Also you smell like poop.

haha, I said poop.

Most people just use MSPaint for the style, not because they're poor hungry peasants without a choice.

Plus GIMP's interface is an unstable cluster**** waiting to happen. At least other stuff like Paint.NET (http://www.getpaint.net) is more humane.


In Windows 7 MSPaint you can zoom out.

you actually can in xp paint you press the ''x1'' button

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Hey, I'm using a trend to be funny.
People are paying attention to me.
Yay.


I actually do use GIMP though for skinning and stuff. Also I've used it a good deal here.

there's really no reason to use paint as long as paint.net exists

I didn't really enjoyed paint.net at all :-/

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Well and to be on-topic: How do you zoom out in Paint on XP exactly?

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Well and to be on-topic: How do you zoom out in Paint on XP exactly?

well i'm using window 7, but when you select the ''zoom'' tool they are some rectangles like: x5, x4, x3, x2, x1, press ''x1''

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well i'm using window 7, but when you select the ''zoom'' tool they are some rectangles like: x5, x4, x3, x2, x1, press ''x1''

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/08/article-0-0290058B00000578-290_468x286.jpg

what? :confused:

[IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/08/article-0-0290058B00000578-290_468x286.jpg[IMG]amazing use of picture, sir. :cool:

well i'm using window 7, but when you select the ''zoom'' tool they are some rectangles like: x5, x4, x3, x2, x1, press ''x1''I presume he means zooming out below 100%. Windows XP MSPaint only let you go from something like 100% to 400%, in Windows 7 MSPaint you can go from 12.5% to 800%.

Also the Windows 7 MSPaint zoom tool isn't like that at all, I'M ON TO YOU. :mad:

I presume he means zooming out below 100%. Windows XP MSPaint only let you go from something like 100% to 400%, in Windows 7 MSPaint you can go from 12.5% to 800%.huh. I hadn't realized that change. cool.

huh. I hadn't realized that change. cool.
It's annoyng tho that you can only zoom in/out by right or left clicking. Means you have to go through every level every time you zoom in and back out... Well, at least I haven't found any option to display the different levels in the menu, or even a slider...

In any case, I hate the new menu redesign and because of that I rarely use paint anymore.

Kjatte's post DID sound like a spambot, let's be honest here.

Kjatte's post DID sound like a spambot, let's be honest here.not disputing that. hell, my first post said as much. Plasma was still being a douche, though.

GIMP takes a hell of a lot of work to get used to, but when you do it is very rewarding. It's photoshop for a fraction of the price, but stepped up complexity.

Thankfully the next version will be in Single-Window mode, rather than the absurd scattering of windows in this one.

Did you know, it had "Content-Aware Fill" (known within GIMP as "Resynthesize") for a couple of years before Adobe showed it off in CS5?
Quite interesting, really.

It's annoyng tho that you can only zoom in/out by right or left clicking. Means you have to go through every level every time you zoom in and back out... Well, at least I haven't found any option to display the different levels in the menu, or even a slider...

In any case, I hate the new menu redesign and because of that I rarely use paint anymore.
There's a slider on the bottom-right, although you probably still have to go through every level. :p

Personally my main beef with the new Paint is all the extra clicks some stuff requires now. I like how the new interface unburied most controls from pesky menus, yet buried others like not being able to change the secondary color with right-click anymore, and shapes always staying selected after you draw them (so for example you can't draw a line right next to another, you'll just change the first line unless you unselected it first). One step forward and two steps back, why?

My theory is that they thought "Hey, why don't we update paint? It'll be so cool!", and started working on it, but then halfway through they got really bored with it and said "Meh, it's just Paint, nobody cares right?"


Then they scrapped everything and released vomit in its place.

Then they scrapped everything and released vomit in its place.
Well, they have to let their puke department do some work other than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5mn7DQFLcs

Kjatte's post DID sound like a spambot, let's be honest here.
I think my mind is infected by the guys who made Gimp! :O