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Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:12
...it BEGINS.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6792/thomasq.png

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:13
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3826/86703625.gif
YEAH BOY YEAH:cool:

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:14
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9854/paulj.png

I WARNED YOU. DON'T TELL ME I DIDN'T WARN YOU

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:14
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/838/at1.gif

YEAH THAT JUST HAPPENED. >:C

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:15
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/715/plasma.png

SCINTILLATING STUFF FROM THE LADS TONIGHT.

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:16
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2285/at2.gif

ITS BETTER THAN CREAM!!!

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:16
SRSLY?!

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4389/kelster.png

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:17
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6977/at3.gif


NO MA'AM DON'T DO IT THERE. :C


Don't ever let Philby SPOON you >:C

poninja
18 May 2010, 01:17
Dammit these again!

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:17
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7171/26426879.png

THE TRUTH BE HURTIN'

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:18
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1324/at4.gif

It was BOUND to happen. :cool:

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:19
MIND = BLOWN
BRICKS = SHAT
PANTS = CREAMED

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1893/gingerneck.png

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:20
Dammit these again!
Ok that's it, Poninja broke the chain so the thread ends now. When will you people learn :mad:

poninja
18 May 2010, 01:22
Ok that's it, Poninja broke the chain so the thread ends now. When will you people learn :mad:

No, please continue them

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:24
No, please continue them

Nope, the rules are we keep drawing until it's interrupted. You just RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE! ESPECIALLY US!

Slick
18 May 2010, 01:25
My next one was AWESOME too. :(
I hate you Poninja. You've killed my dreams.

poninja
18 May 2010, 01:28
My next one was AWESOME too. :(
I hate you Poninja. You've killed my dreams.

Please forgive me i am a n00b :( , i did take the lesson

Splapp
18 May 2010, 01:32
Please forgive me i am a n00b :( , i did take the lesson
No, we can't forgive you... it's your own fault. We're adding you to the list. :mad:

MonkeyforaHead
18 May 2010, 01:39
Would you look at you? I mean look at you.

http://h.imagehost.org/0080/animubullcrap.png

Kelster23
18 May 2010, 01:54
Damnit Poninja! :mad:

I was enjoying this!

MtlAngelus
18 May 2010, 03:45
Attention duelists: My hair gives me superpowers!

Akuryou13
18 May 2010, 04:29
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4049/assface.jpg
:mad::mad::mad:

.JeT
18 May 2010, 07:29
Interruption was unnessecary. That was brilliant.

thomasp
18 May 2010, 07:56
I could just delete poninja's post so it looks like Splapp broke the chain... :p

.JeT
18 May 2010, 07:59
I could just delete poninja's post so it looks like Splapp broke the chain... :p

DO IT. :mad:

Plasma
18 May 2010, 15:25
Goddamnit Slap, you're always ruining it for the rest of us!

Thurbo
18 May 2010, 18:04
?? What is this? How long have you been planning this? Do you wanna tell me you've drawn every single picture within one minute?

MIND = BLOWN
BRICKS = SHAT
PANTS = CREAMED

Image

Urk, gingerneck.
However this looks utterly disgusting. Who might teach me to draw stuff like that? I can't draw blood and pulled out innards at all.

Akuryou13
18 May 2010, 23:46
?? What is this? How long have you been planning this? Do you wanna tell me you've drawn every single picture within one minute?DO NOT DOUBT THEM FOR THEY ARE YOUR SUPERIORS! :mad::mad:

MonkeyforaHead
19 May 2010, 00:45
?? What is this? How long have you been planning this? Do you wanna tell me you've drawn every single picture within one minute?

http://h.imagehost.org/0104/just_forget_it.png

Pyramid
19 May 2010, 02:54
That's great.. two days I don't get on-line and this happens
I ****ing hate you all

Akuryou13
19 May 2010, 03:39
That's great.. two days I don't get on-line and this happens
I ****ing hate you allthat's alright. we hate you more.

Cb14
19 May 2010, 14:15
So, was it a self-criticism day or something?

Thurbo
19 May 2010, 15:20
http://h.imagehost.org/0104/just_forget_it.png

Bwaaahahargh

that's alright. we hate you more.

Stop hating each other :p

I can even slightly understand him

Esbern
19 May 2010, 16:16
ok i'm so confused right now... this thread didn't even make any sense!

Thurbo
19 May 2010, 18:12
ok i'm so confused right now... this thread didn't even make any sense!

Neither to me. Probably because we're fairly new to the forum, but also nobody explained it yet.

I think it was meant to entertain us but Splapp stopped when poninja replied.

Akuryou13
19 May 2010, 18:40
ok i'm so confused right now... this thread didn't even make any sense!welcome to the forum Circa 2003.

Thurbo
19 May 2010, 19:04
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/Thurbo1/WormsSplappsEye.png?t=1274292042

Yours truly,
Thurbo

(Goodbye till another few years, Splapp)

Cb14
19 May 2010, 19:07
welcome to the forum Circa 2003.

Aha! Akuryou has given us a clue to start investigating this mysterious case. However, there are no threads dated 2003 in the FanArt section. :(

Esbern
19 May 2010, 19:43
Aha! Akuryou has given us a clue to start investigating this mysterious case. However, there are no threads dated 2003 in the FanArt section. :(

They try to keep it from us! use GOOGLE!

Pyramid
20 May 2010, 00:12
What hurt me the most is knowing that after 40 or 50 images I would eventually appear in one of those silly jokes

MtlAngelus
20 May 2010, 03:37
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/168/887/TripleFacePalm_display_image.jpg

Akuryou13
20 May 2010, 04:04
Aha! Akuryou has given us a clue to start investigating this mysterious case. However, there are no threads dated 2003 in the FanArt section. :(probably because the fanart forum didn't exist then.

Pigbuster
20 May 2010, 11:49
Oh you guys.

So wacky.

philby4000
25 May 2010, 16:34
My hat.

My dreams.

Ruined.

DrMelon
25 May 2010, 16:56
My hat.

My dreams.

Ruined.

A Giant. Purple. Sock.

Just to reinforce the feeling of utter despair. Where's your spoon now?!

Zero72
26 May 2010, 16:29
http://h.imagehost.org/0156/zeor1.png

http://h.imagehost.org/0918/zeor2.png

http://j.imagehost.org/0486/zeor3.png

Thurbo
26 May 2010, 17:02
What the...? You still exist?

Akuryou13
26 May 2010, 17:11
What the...? You still exist?no .

poninja
26 May 2010, 17:19
However, what happened to FAOTM's?

thomasp
26 May 2010, 17:43
However, what happened to FAOTM's?
They died when people stopped entering them.

Akuryou13
26 May 2010, 20:17
However, what happened to FAOTM's?Official ones died when Team17 started playing favorites. Unofficial ones died when the fanartist forum did.

Thurbo
26 May 2010, 20:29
I don't even know what "FAOTM" stands for.

By clever guessing I'd say "Fan-Artist Of The Month".

Akuryou13
26 May 2010, 20:31
I don't even know what "FAOTM" stands for.

By clever guessing I'd say "Fan-Artist Of The Month".correct! Team17 used to host them monthly when this place was all sorts of active. then after those stopped forumers took up the mantle of hosting one with a particular theme every month. now so few of us artist-types are around that no one's hosting.

Plasma
26 May 2010, 23:04
Actually, there's still a fair amount of artists in the Forum, as evidenced by the MSpaint Compo thread. It's just that people here nowadays aren't so interested in making regular fanart anymore.


We could see if we could try kick-starting it again at the end of the month though!

philby4000
30 May 2010, 03:46
Official ones died when Team17 started playing favorites. Unofficial ones died when the fanartist forum did.
If by 'playing favorites' you mean ' picked the best entries each month' that is 100% correct.

Wah wah wah why did Hunterkiller win again this time!?!?

Akuryou13
30 May 2010, 04:42
If by 'playing favorites' you mean ' picked the best entries each month' that is 100% correct.

Wah wah wah why did Hunterkiller win again this time!?!?no, no. I was talking about Mocoworm. he won nearly every one he entered. the last FAoTM involved an absolutely spectacular entry from Splapp and someone, but moco entered with a simple drawing of his sig and won. a bunch of us started to yell BS about the choice and T17 never hosted another.

Pyramid
30 May 2010, 08:23
no, no. I was talking about Mocoworm. he won nearly every one he entered. the last FAoTM involved an absolutely spectacular entry from Splapp and someone, but moco entered with a simple drawing of his sig and won. a bunch of us started to yell BS about the choice and T17 never hosted another.

I demand you to search for this arts, if they're not buried beyond archives

Kelster23
30 May 2010, 09:21
correct! Team17 used to host them monthly when this place was all sorts of active. then after those stopped forumers took up the mantle of hosting one with a particular theme every month. now so few of us artist-types are around that no one's hosting.

Those were the days. I think the Cack-Hand and Crappy Art themed ones were my favorites.

SupSuper
30 May 2010, 12:21
I demand you to search for this arts, if they're not buried beyond archivesThe FAoTMs are still up on their respective websites:
http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=1
http://worms3d.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=janu&janu=1

And who can forget BatteryChicken (http://worms3d.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=batt)?

Thurbo
30 May 2010, 14:54
BatteryChicken's comics were some awesome stuff.
Well maybe it's all about simple drawings. To be honest, I prefer drawings with only outlines and one normal lighting and one for the shades (cel-shading-like), as in tv-shows like "Simpsons", "Spongebob" or whatever instead of those pics full of digital effects.

Though moco's pics are a little too simple.

involved an absolutely spectacular entry from Splapp and someone, but moco entered with a simple drawing of his sig and won.

I assume on his picture is just happening too much. I enjoy the ones with one or two worms and a good joke way more.

Akuryou13
30 May 2010, 17:33
I assume on his picture is just happening too much. I enjoy the ones with one or two worms and a good joke way more.yes, but looking at them artistically, mocoworms' entry (http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=1) was NOT very good. while splapp's for that month (http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=4) was rather spectacularly made.

I understand that someone might prefer one style of composition over another and might be biased towards one worm as opposed to multiple, but there's a limit where the actual artistic quality of the drawing comes into play, and splapp's was DRAWN infinitely better than moco's.

and I believe there was another entry as well as splapp's for that month that was similarly well-made, but that archive doesn't seem to discriminate what drawings were on that thread and which were just on the forum in general.

either way, by no sensible scale was moco's drawing anywhere NEAR the quality of splapp's for that month. and moco'd won many a monthly contest legitimately, so I know he had skill enough to do better, but what he entered then was not by any means good.

Thurbo
30 May 2010, 18:05
I think that's a bit strange, too. The style and the way Moco's pic is drawn is alright, but it doesn't have any background at all, no lighting, the drawing itself doesn't make much sense (a worm hitting HIMSELF with an axe and crying? lolol)

By that, many other images were way better, indeed.

philby4000
31 May 2010, 12:54
yes, but looking at them artistically, mocoworms' entry (http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=1) was NOT very good. while splapp's for that month (http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=4) was rather spectacularly made.

I understand that someone might prefer one style of composition over another and might be biased towards one worm as opposed to multiple, but there's a limit where the actual artistic quality of the drawing comes into play, and splapp's was DRAWN infinitely better than moco's.

and I believe there was another entry as well as splapp's for that month that was similarly well-made, but that archive doesn't seem to discriminate what drawings were on that thread and which were just on the forum in general.

either way, by no sensible scale was moco's drawing anywhere NEAR the quality of splapp's for that month. and moco'd won many a monthly contest legitimately, so I know he had skill enough to do better, but what he entered then was not by any means good.

Uh, actually Mocoworm's picture is objectively far and away the superior of the two you posted?

Splapp's image is marred by dull colouring and muddled composition. It is flat and it is lifeless.

Moco's may be simple, but it is much more expressive and pleasing to the eye.

The fanart competitions ended because a bunch of idiots though they knew better than actual proffesional artists who judged the competion.

Akuryou13
31 May 2010, 16:41
Uh, actually Mocoworm's picture is objectively far and away the superior of the two you posted?

Splapp's image is marred by dull colouring and muddled composition. It is flat and it is lifeless.

Moco's may be simple, but it is much more expressive and pleasing to the eye.even now, being trained as an artist, moco's entry isn't even close. the colors THERE are dull and flat and the lines are entirely uniform giving the whole thing a purely flat appearance.

I honestly can't see HOW you can call splapp's coloration dull or flat. the vibrant gold of the statue against the blue of the sky really pops out and with the red of the blood make the 3 primary colors, an artistic staple of classic paintings. the blood even looks more like a fluid while moco's looks more like flat paint. Splapp's is hardly a professional work, but moco's is hardly more than a colored sketch.

I'm honestly wondering if you're intentionally being argumentative, as I can't find a single redeeming quality of what moco posted. I mean, it's not a BAD drawing, by any means, but how can you honestly say that it's worth winning any contest, much less a contest against other good drawings?! what redeeming qualities are you seeing?

DrMelon
31 May 2010, 17:45
what redeeming qualities are you seeing?

When you look upon the drawings of Mocoworm, what you see is based upon your OWN SOUL.

In other news, I think Splapp should have won that one to be honest. Moco's one is far, far too simplistic by comparison, and contains numerous mistakes that could easily have been rectified. It's obviously the work of less than ten minutes.

Thurbo
31 May 2010, 18:18
Well how to say that...
Team17 obviously judged his qualities instead of the picture itself. The way he draws simply looks awesome and somehow way better than Splapp's.
Then again, he didn't put any (or not much) effort on his image. That should've been punished with him losing the competition, actually :P

Akuryou13
31 May 2010, 19:03
When you look upon the drawings of Mocoworm, what you see is based upon your OWN SOUL.that's a lie! that picture's not a black pit at all! :cool:

Zero72
31 May 2010, 20:20
In other news, I think Splapp should have won that one to be honest. Moco's one is far, far too simplistic by comparison, and contains numerous mistakes that could easily have been rectified. It's obviously the work of less than ten minutes.I agree. Mocoworm's looks sketchy and sloppy to me. I know not everybody can compete with the crazy amounts of effort and talent poured into everything Splapp does and all, but to call Mocoworm's entry objectively better than Splapp's is just a lie.

Thurbo
31 May 2010, 20:44
[...] but to call Mocoworm's entry objectively better than Splapp's is just a lie.

How'd you know?

philby4000
31 May 2010, 21:13
Do you people not have eyes?

even now, being trained as an artist, moco's entry isn't even close. the colors THERE are dull and flat and the lines are entirely uniform giving the whole thing a purely flat appearance.First of all, how can you posibly describe those lines as 'entirely uniform'? Second of all, The flat colouring in Moco's piece has a lot more pop than the muddy gradients in Splapp's.

I honestly can't see HOW you can call splapp's coloration dull or flat. the vibrant gold of the statue against the blue of the sky really pops out and with the red of the blood make the 3 primary colors, an artistic staple of classic paintings. the blood even looks more like a fluid while moco's looks more like flat paint. Splapp's is hardly a professional work, but moco's is hardly more than a colored sketch.
The shading you seem so keen on are sloppily aplied gradients. There is no difference between the shading on the sand and the shading on the statue. There's no sense of value at all, the three colours you picked out don't stand out against each other at all.

And I never said that Moco's picture was anything but a coloured sketch, hell you can even see some bits he missed in the blood splatter on the floor, It's just in this case a simple, expressive sketch with nice composition beats a muddled picture that obviously had much more time spent on it.

I'm honestly wondering if you're intentionally being argumentative, as I can't find a single redeeming quality of what moco posted. I mean, it's not a BAD drawing, by any means, but how can you honestly say that it's worth winning any contest, much less a contest against other good drawings?! what redeeming qualities are you seeing?
Splapp's a wonderful artist, but the compostion and bad colouring killed that picture. The contest was to make the best picture and they picked the best entry.

MtlAngelus
31 May 2010, 21:45
This discussion is retarded anyway, the competition was never looking for talent or effort, I think it's obvious T17 staff just chose their favorite for any given reason(for instance, the one that gets complimented for the small filling of white in an uncolored cloud), and the one that got more votes won.

Thurbo
31 May 2010, 21:55
First of all, how can you posibly describe those lines as 'entirely uniform'? Second of all, The flat colouring in Moco's piece has a lot more pop than the muddy gradients in Splapp's.
The shading you seem so keen on are sloppily aplied gradients. There is no difference between the shading on the sand and the shading on the statue. There's no sense of value at all, the three colours you picked out don't stand out against each other at all.

I'm sure that's why I liked Moco's picture actually more too...

And not only now, it's been so for a long time. That page was from 2004 and in those days I enjoyed watching fan arts pretty much, too (I was a 10-year-old and therefore didn't understand any English, though :p). I'm damn sure I prefered other entry's more than Splapp's because it actually doesn't really look that great...

for instance, the one that gets complimented for the small filling of white in an uncolored cloud

Hah, now I know how to win the next competition! I'll draw a worm with a shirt that has only one sleeve... or something.
Nah I guess Team17 liked his style so much that they specially focused on stylistic stuff :p (and actually... would you have thought of filling a cloud this like? That has to occur to you first... not that that makes the image any special, but still...)

Pyramid
31 May 2010, 23:08
I didn't liked any of the two entries. There, I SAID IT
But I think Splapp's entry was way better. The worm getting whipped should won by itself. In fact, I think that the whoe background polutes the drawing
Just ignore all that and focus on the slave and I think it gets obvious it is way better than Moco's

philby4000
1 Jun 2010, 00:58
I didn't liked any of the two entries. There, I SAID IT
But I think Splapp's entry was way better. The worm getting whipped should won by itself. In fact, I think that the whoe background polutes the drawing
Just ignore all that and focus on the slave and I think it gets obvious it is way better than Moco's

Yes let's judge this the best by ignoring 90% of it. That is how art works.

shadowman
1 Jun 2010, 01:12
You should've seen the Mona Lisa before they cropped it. :p

Pyramid
1 Jun 2010, 04:46
Yes let's judge this the best by ignoring 90% of it. That is how art works.

That was my point, I obviously explained it very bad
What I meant is that the background polutes the pic, but Splapp's art is superior
That should be the most convincing reason for anyone picking Mocko's entry

Pigbuster
1 Jun 2010, 10:39
To be honest, Moco's picture bugs the hell out of me since I cannot for the life of me understand what is going on. Why is the worm holding the axe like that? If he hit himself in the head, then shouldn't the back of his hand be facing us? If someone threw the axe into his head, then... why draw him holding the handle instead of making the action clearer by having his hands curled up in pain? Even having no hands visible at all would work better. Also, his facial expression is good, but his body expression is practically nonexistant. He leans towards the axe, which makes the axe lack any sort of impact on the worm at all (not that having him leaning away would be any better, since as I said, I'm not sure exactly what's happening here). Note that Moco had that picture as his avatar for ages (he still might), so what you're seeing here is about 5 years of pent-up rant. :p

The whipped worm in Splapp's picture, by contrast, has great movement and expression. The whipping worm, on the other hand, is as motionless as Moco's, and he's holding the whip awkwardly to boot... but judging Splapp's picture seems silly since it seems really shrunk down on that page, and his stuff is best when you can see all of the juicy details. His other picture (http://www.wormsforts.com/multimedia.html?area=fana&fana=augu&augu=3)is rather gimped because of that, too.

And both of them are so much better by now anyway. WF:US was 6 years ago oh god I'm old.

Thurbo
1 Jun 2010, 21:15
To be honest, Moco's picture bugs the hell out of me since I cannot for the life of me understand what is going on. Why is the worm holding the axe like that? If he hit himself in the head, then shouldn't the back of his hand be facing us? If someone threw the axe into his head, then... why draw him holding the handle instead of making the action clearer by having his hands curled up in pain? Even having no hands visible at all would work better. Also, his facial expression is good, but his body expression is practically nonexistant. He leans towards the axe, which makes the axe lack any sort of impact on the worm at all (not that having him leaning away would be any better, since as I said, I'm not sure exactly what's happening here). Note that Moco had that picture as his avatar for ages (he still might), so what you're seeing here is about 5 years of pent-up rant. :p

My point, my point. The idea of the drawing is quite senseless.

Just ignore all that and focus on the slave and I think it gets obvious it is way better than Moco's

And so, if we had only the slave like we only have moco's worm, I have to say I seriously like moco's style way more than Splapp's. Alright, Splapp can do better jokes and is better at facial expressions... maybe.

The expressions... They don't actually fit to Worms. They remember me much more of weird tv shows like Ren and Stimpy or something... They are absolutely exaggerated.

This is not how Worms actually is like... Official arts show funny expressions but they don't tend to go to extremes, and moco's face expression as such fits simply perfectly. Well just my oppinion, but as it seems Team17 agrees with me :p

Pyramid
2 Jun 2010, 10:58
The expressions... They don't actually fit to Worms. They remember me much more of weird tv shows like Ren and Stimpy or something... They are absolutely exaggerated.

This is not how Worms actually is like... Official arts show funny expressions but they don't tend to go to extremes

Please understand that you can't say what Worms are like...
Worms had so many styles of official art and so many artists. There's no style that can serve as a model for "how worms are"

The exageration is just a feature of cartooney and ludicrous characters, and that's what worms are: cartoons
Trying to estabilish anatomical and physical laws and rules for them is stupid and useless

Thurbo
2 Jun 2010, 12:59
Seems you don't get it. Of course you can draw them in any way, whatever you like. But that wouldn't always be useful stuff for Team17. Somewhere has to be a limit.

Or do you seriously expect an expression like THIS to be ever on a cover?!

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/Thurbo1/ExaggeratedExpression-1.png?t=1275481314

Pyramid
2 Jun 2010, 17:05
Honestly? That's one of your better arts I've seen so far

Thurbo
2 Jun 2010, 17:10
Yep, honestly. This ain't gonna happen, no matter how well the image actually looks :confused:

It might be more interesting to look at but it simply doesn't fit... Is that just my oppinion?

Akuryou13
2 Jun 2010, 17:16
Or do you seriously expect an expression like THIS to be ever on a cover?!NONE of our art will ever be on a cover of a game. that's not what fan art's for. fan art is just art for the sake of art. we like to draw, we like worms, so we do both at once. we do so with whatever style we like because it doesn't matter what it looks like, so long as it looks good. being close to the color, style or theme of the T17 drawings is just a lack of creativity more than a benefit. we already know what Team17 has made of worms, why not expand on that? bring worms into new environments and give them new personas?

of course, there's nothing wrong with sticking close to T17's interpretation either, there's just nothing binding us there.

Plasma
2 Jun 2010, 17:46
Eh, there's a few different reasons one might prefer Mocoworm's entry over Splapp's. Like that "Worm hitting self with axe" is still a better subject matter than "Worm being whipped in front of statue". Or that Splapp's huge level of detail ultimately made the picture far too cluttered. But I think the biggest reasons are:
1: Fanart competitions are meant to be more focused on encouraging people to draw, not about finding the best or most dedicated artist. If you keep picking the best at drawing, the lower-tier artists aren't going to bother entering. If you keep picking the most detailed one, then people are going to think they shouldn't enter if they can't spend a lot of time on it.
2: It's Worms. Think back on all the official T17 Worms art, especially box art, and consider how many drawings were detailed, complex and shaded with more than one colour. Now think of all the ones that were somewhat simplistic-looking and had next-to-no detail at all. It's not right to say that an entry is worse because it's not like the official style, but there is a limit before it starts getting less like fanart and more like regular-art-with-characters-added.

Thurbo
2 Jun 2010, 17:54
NONE of our art will ever be on a cover of a game. that's not what fan art's for. fan art is just art for the sake of art. we like to draw, we like worms, so we do both at once. we do so with whatever style we like because it doesn't matter what it looks like, so long as it looks good. being close to the color, style or theme of the T17 drawings is just a lack of creativity more than a benefit. we already know what Team17 has made of worms, why not expand on that? bring worms into new environments and give them new personas?

of course, there's nothing wrong with sticking close to T17's interpretation either, there's just nothing binding us there.

Well it's not MY art meant to be on a cover. Seems you missed what I wanted to say... once more :D

Okay, simply imagine it was drawn by a Team17 artist (of course, with being much more proffessional and all that). It would still not ever be used as a cover. Simply because of the huge exaggeration. I assume it won't even get official.

So... yea, everyone here draws worms as s/he wants, but we are talking about this Worms Forts FAOTM, right? And I still think Team17 artists only chose pictures being as close to their own style as possible.


2: It's Worms. Think back on all the official T17 Worms art, especially box art, and consider how many drawings were detailed, complex and shaded with more than one colour. Now think of all the ones that were somewhat simplistic-looking and had next-to-no detail at all. It's not right to say that an entry is worse because it's not like the official style, but there is a limit before it starts getting less like fanart and more like regular-art-with-characters-added.

Good explanation I think... and the style of official art is also changing a lot.
Still you can kinda see how you should draw a pic to make it look being official, even if it's not like any of the "official" styles. Like if you exaggerate expressions, which has never happened, no matter what the pictures looked like.

It's kinda a level beyond the drawing itself, if you understand how I mean this.

Pyramid
2 Jun 2010, 18:26
I was writting but then I sighed and realized I don't care about this subject anymore

Thurbo
2 Jun 2010, 18:56
I was writting but then I sighed and realized I didn't want to write at all but accidentally hit the "Submit Reply" button and would be too lazy to delete my reply anyway.

Cb14
2 Jun 2010, 19:43
I was thinking of adding the offense disclaimer but then i decided to just get down to business.
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af358/Mr_Cb14/fatality1.png

Akuryou13
2 Jun 2010, 19:49
So... yea, everyone here draws worms as s/he wants, but we are talking about this Worms Forts FAOTM, right? And I still think Team17 artists only chose pictures being as close to their own style as possible.but that was MY point. we aren't here to imitate their style. the monthly contests were just to see who could make something good, it didn't matter if it was close to the way T17 drew or the way they presented a composition. just whatever was the best entry got the monthly prize. there were all sorts of entries, almost none of which were suitable for official art even if they HAD been drawn by professionals. just look through that link posted earlier and you'll see.

Thurbo
2 Jun 2010, 20:17
I was thinking of adding the offense disclaimer but then i decided to just get down to business.
Image

First time someone else drew my sigworm! Should be an enraptured moment!
Somehow I think all I say ends up with fatal results for somebody:cool:

but that was MY point. we aren't here to imitate their style. the monthly contests were just to see who could make something good, it didn't matter if it was close to the way T17 drew or the way they presented a composition. just whatever was the best entry got the monthly prize. there were all sorts of entries, almost none of which were suitable for official art even if they HAD been drawn by professionals. just look through that link posted earlier and you'll see.

*sigh* maybe they just judged the style, not if the pictures were suitable for official art... Okay I have no idea why they chose moco and not Splapp though I for myself like moco's more, and since this thread is actually just off-topic and a bit silly (apart from Cb14's cool drawing ;)) I think I should better vanish now!

*grabs portal cannon* *laughs maniacally*

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/Thurbo1/Imoff.png?t=1275506213

Cb14
2 Jun 2010, 20:23
Hang on a minute. Offtopic? Then what was the topic in the first place?

Pyramid
3 Jun 2010, 06:18
Thurbo is the new Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon
3 Jun 2010, 07:42
Oh, wow Thurbo, that is EXACTLY how I used to act after been "defeated" back a few years ago.

Akuryou13
3 Jun 2010, 08:01
Oh, wow Thurbo, that is EXACTLY how I used to act after been "defeated" back a few years ago.we all stick to a generalized cliche. each of us differ in specifics, but there's ALWAYS one of us on the forum....but we get better, thank god.

*shudders to remember his posts in 03*

thomasp
3 Jun 2010, 08:37
*shudders to remember his posts in 03*

See, there are some good sides to the database prune :p

.JeT
3 Jun 2010, 12:01
we all stick to a generalized cliche. each of us differ in specifics, but there's ALWAYS one of us on the forum....but we get better, thank god.

*shudders to remember his posts in 03*

Oh god, I re-read some of the really old posts from long ago

It was horrible

HORRIBLY HORRIBLE

Alien King
3 Jun 2010, 12:06
See, there are some good sides to the database prune :p

I don't suppose it cut as close as 05/06?

Akuryou13
3 Jun 2010, 17:21
Oh god, I re-read some of the really old posts from long ago

It was horrible

HORRIBLY HORRIBLEYOU'RE not the guy who ACTED like that..... I may still annoy some people now, but GOD was I ever an irritating little ass in high school...

.JeT
3 Jun 2010, 18:28
YOU'RE not the guy who ACTED like that..... I may still annoy some people now, but GOD was I ever an irritating little ass in high school...

True, I didn't act like it. I was a 9-10 year old kid and that's how it is when you're that old. But damn, I was really annoying.

Thurbo
3 Jun 2010, 21:25
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/Thurbo1/Imin.png?t=1275596034

-Thurbo is the new Shadowmoon
-Oh, wow Thurbo, that is EXACTLY how I used to act after been "defeated" back a few years ago.

I only did so for this silly joke q:-B
And perhaps to let this FAOTM thingy come to an end anyhow :p

And do not misunderstand me, after all, I still ♥ Splapp.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/Thurbo1/JackBloodshedBySplapp.jpg?t=1275596642

wigwam the
4 Jun 2010, 16:29
What is he doing

DrMelon
4 Jun 2010, 19:30
What is he doing

Trying to worm his way out of it, it seems.

You see what I did there?

MtlAngelus
5 Jun 2010, 06:31
I was thinking of adding the offense disclaimer but then i decided to just get down to business.
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af358/Mr_Cb14/fatality1.png
I disagree with that image. I believe it went more like this:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5083/thurbo.jpg

Cb14
5 Jun 2010, 10:11
I disagree with that image. I believe it went more like this:
Weell, I'm not sure if there was anything special about it.

Thurbo
5 Jun 2010, 13:38
I disagree with that image. I believe it went more like this:

>insert huge question marker here<

poninja
7 Jun 2010, 02:51
Good thing that this forum havent has SPAM

Metacooler
15 Jun 2010, 05:26
Uh, actually Mocoworm's picture is objectively far and away the superior of the two you posted?

Splapp's image is marred by dull colouring and muddled composition. It is flat and it is lifeless.

Moco's may be simple, but it is much more expressive and pleasing to the eye.

The fanart competitions ended because a bunch of idiots though they knew better than actual proffesional artists who judged the competion.

People should always question the authorities-that-be when they slip up or make questionable decisions.

You, however, should just follow blindly, because you have the worst opinions I have ever read in my life.

Thurbo
15 Jun 2010, 13:40
I don't think so, I concede that philby is right

Akuryou13
15 Jun 2010, 16:12
I don't think so, I concede that philby is rightyou concede that pretty much anyone is right so long as they voice an argument.

Thurbo
15 Jun 2010, 18:20
No. Yes I'm not even sure myself why, but I already said that in 2004 when I was smaller and watching that website I didn't like Splapp's image too much. So probably for philby's given arguments :)

_Axel
15 Jun 2010, 18:37
Or maybe because you are blinded by Moco's subliminal propaganda !

Thurbo
15 Jun 2010, 18:43
Umm... nope.

poninja
15 Jun 2010, 23:56
i agree with Thurbo and Philby