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Ag3ntSmith
1 Jul 2007, 12:20
I successfully reformated to make worms faster (cause i encountered problems last days :confused:) and now it's worse. I installed the 3.6.26.5 update but now there are 2 bugs (and probably more!) THE ONLY THING I CHANGED TO MY PC AFTER REFORMAT IS THE GRAPHICS CARD AND THE HARD DISC DRIVE.
graphics card = geforce 7600GS (my old was 5300 pcx)
HDD = 500GB (my old was 120 GB)

I can play offline with no problems but :
1. When i go to weapons options , i can't see all weapons and the images are broken and strange.
2. When i connect to wormnet, go in #AG then join OR host a game, it crashes, and tells me FATAL ERROR. Image included.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/bug-.png

I added the ERRORLOG.txt too. It may include greek language inside because i use greek Operating System :D

EDIT: I installed the next patch but the same problems still!!!1oneone!1

I hope you can help me because i reinstalled many times with no result!

franpa
1 Jul 2007, 13:06
try in the tweaks folder the frontend work arounds.

robowurmz
1 Jul 2007, 13:40
Right, did you set any special options in Windows Vista when you had your old hd? It would have reset those, like running it in a certain permissions thing.

Ag3ntSmith
1 Jul 2007, 14:08
erhm , i have windows XP pro SP2 :D The image you saw is a vista skin xD

EDIT:

I tried all regs, nothing seems to change the crash when i join a multiplayer game. Notice that it happens when i join or host a game.

EDIT:

I tried copy all the files (team 17 folder) from my old HD but i have the same problem too.
The weapon options bug is not fixed either.

CyberShadow
1 Jul 2007, 14:22
Could you post a screenshot of the weapon options?
With the latest Beta, you can make screenshots by pressing the Pause/Break key. They will be saved to your User\Capture folder.

Ag3ntSmith
1 Jul 2007, 14:46
Here you are :

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/screen0137.png

It looks like not full or edited but that is exactly what appearing in game.

CyberShadow
1 Jul 2007, 15:02
Please go to Control Panel, Display options, Settings, click Advanced and check the "DPI" setting (screenshot (http://thecybershadow.net/dump/54c850b470ba4f017ec1cd49e57e80ba/00000473.png)). Check that it's set to 96 DPI (Normal size).

Also, do any other screens / menus look like they don't fit on the screen or are proportionally distorted?

Ag3ntSmith
1 Jul 2007, 15:20
Sadly, the DPI is already 96.
And no, the only menu which is distorted is the weapons menu. i tried everything else. and of course, when i click on weapon options menu, i cant exit. only with minimize --> close application.

Don't forget the another problem when i join/host. why it crashes ? my firewall is disabled :mad:

CyberShadow
1 Jul 2007, 19:00
What about the font sizes? Did you set a larger UI font using Control Panel -> Display -> Appearance? (this includes fine-tuning the scheme using the Advanced button)

I believe that the crash and the problem above are somehow related.

Ag3ntSmith
2 Jul 2007, 08:37
Yes, i do use a different theme in winXP, and to do that i ''patched'' uixtheme.dll in windows directory. But i tried rolling back to the normal theme (without reboot) but not change. The weapons options are still bugged and i have to close the program to exit, and it still crashes when i join an online game, or host a game online.

Im starting to believe that the problem is caused by the graphics card (http://www.gainward.com/en/product/product_detail_v8040.html) or the nvidia drivers 94.24 (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_94.24.html).

If the problem is caused by graphics drivers, then i 'il wait for the next release :).

CyberShadow
2 Jul 2007, 08:40
I don't think that this is related to the display drivers, as those wouldn't really dictate the placement of controls on the weapons panel (if this were a video glitch, they would only "appear" displaced but would still be in the right positions when you tried to click them etc). It might be related to the patched uxtheme.dll, however.

franpa
2 Jul 2007, 10:15
mmm i had that patched dll and i think i still do i dont have a problem with the weapons panel... and yes the 93.71, 94.24, 162.15 drivers work fine with my geforce 6600gt pcie.

Ag3ntSmith
2 Jul 2007, 10:18
so it's just bad luck. anyway i don't rly care for weapons options as i care for joining/hosting online games. why it crashes ? in my first post is attached the errorlog. if u can help me it would be nice. My firewall is completaly disabled either.

CyberShadow
2 Jul 2007, 18:04
I think that it crashes because it tries to draw an element that's outside the screen, so I'm assuming that the same problem with the weapon options editor also affects the host/join screen, but with a fatal outcome. I might be able to fix the crash, but that still won't solve the problem with UI elements being out of their position - some things could become unusable (for example, the "Start game" button could be placed outside the screen and become inaccessible).

Muzer
2 Jul 2007, 18:39
I also have a patched uxtheme, with the Vista Transformation Pack, and WA works fine for me.

Ag3ntSmith
2 Jul 2007, 20:28
I think that it crashes because it tries to draw an element that's outside the screen, so I'm assuming that the same problem with the weapon options editor also affects the host/join screen, but with a fatal outcome. I might be able to fix the crash, but that still won't solve the problem with UI elements being out of their position - some things could become unusable (for example, the "Start game" button could be placed outside the screen and become inaccessible).


How you might be able to fix my crash ? :)

franpa
3 Jul 2007, 06:01
might design it so that dstuff CAN be placed off screen thus fixing your crash, however stuff will still be off screen and stuff thus you still most likely wont be able to play.

CyberShadow
3 Jul 2007, 06:39
The screens you're having trouble with, the weapon options editor and host/join screen, both have something in common - they've been redesigned, and the layout depends on a certain font that should be installed on all systems.

The font is called "Small fonts". It won't show up in your Fonts folder, however you can still use it in font selection dialogs.

Please check that the font is installed on your system, and that it works. You can do that by opening Notepad and setting Notepad's font to "Small fonts". Here's a reference screenshot of what it should look like when it's set to "Small fonts", "Regular", size 5:

http://thecybershadow.net/dump/b53bc203a46388a9da5452c325c92bc8/00000477.png

Ag3ntSmith
3 Jul 2007, 15:06
This is very strange :D :
The ''Small Fonts'' font won't show up in font selection in wordpad,

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/nosmallfonts.png


But they are appearing in /Windows/Fonts !!!


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/Smallfontsorwhat.png


Maybe that is causing the problem ?


EDIT:

Oooooooooops!
Sry , it was Notepad not Wordpad. Im really sorry for my mistake :D

Anyway they are now appearing :

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/notepadxd.png



Ok they are installed. what now ?

CyberShadow
3 Jul 2007, 18:56
The font in your screenshot seems different than the one in mine. Notice the shape of the e letters.
Compare with the same text at Small fonts size 5 for me:

http://thecybershadow.net/dump/d6311c50f8c4014f6e941e322a1cd9ab/00000478.png

It's odd that the fonts are present in your Fonts folder. Maybe somehow a different font was installed with the same name?
You could try deleting those fonts and seeing if the system will revert to using the standard version. (Wouldn't hurt to back them up though, just in case)

Ag3ntSmith
3 Jul 2007, 19:19
I deleted them. I copied them first, of course. I tried W:A again and it crashes in joining/host, and the weapon options are still bugged.

Btw,
i think you can see your hidden fonts using that options:

1. Open My Computer
2. Go to ''Tools Menu'' --> ''Folder Options''
3. Go to ''View'' Tab
4. In ''Advanced Settings'' , ''Hidden Files and Folders'' check the option ''Show hidden files and folders''
5. In ''Advanced Settings'' , ''Hidden Files and Folders'' uncheck the option ''Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
6. Now Go to your %SystemRoot%\Fonts\
(or /Windows/Fonts) and the small fonts will be there.

http://www.winxptutor.com/images/showfiles.JPG

So if the fonts are the problem , you can give me your working ones just to check if the problem are these fonts.
Right Click --> Copy doesn't work for me so i use CTRL + C to copy and CTRL + V to paste. Zipping these files will be nice too. :)
It would be nice if you attach them here.

CyberShadow
3 Jul 2007, 19:23
Ah, I didn't realise some fonts were hidden.

The only font I have related to Small Fonts is "Small Fonts (VGA res)". Maybe you could try deleting all but that one?
Also, check if the font will look like mine in Notepad.

Ag3ntSmith
3 Jul 2007, 19:33
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o261/Agent-Smithy/plzmakemyWAwooooork.png

I did exactly what u said.

i left only small fonts (VGA Res) , and trying deleting all of them too (with backup) and still don't works when joining/hosting. Weapons options bug of course

P.S: try attach your small font

CyberShadow
3 Jul 2007, 21:49
We've reproduced the issue and implemented a workaround. The problem can in fact happen on all greek Windows versions.

We'll have to see if it works when the next beta will be out (which should be much sooner as it will be a bugfix release) :)

Ag3ntSmith
4 Jul 2007, 08:57
Then i 'il wait when it is released.

Thank you for your help , CyberShadow.

Ag3ntSmith
17 Jul 2007, 15:21
I don't think it will be fixed with the new patch.

Btw i reinstalled the game and i ran the patch completaly unpatched then i downloaded some updates wapatch.exe and gfxfix.exe oO .
I haven't did that before. I didn't copied even the old user folder.
I went to weapons options again but the problem still.
I went to WN and when i try to join or host a game but it is still crashing.
Maybe editing some .LYT file in DXLayouts folder will help ?
Paint isn't opening these files :(.
Is there a way to recreate the layouts or something ? There might be a way...
Any help or suggestion will be nice. Anyone have the same problem ?

EDIT: I just unistalled old drivers and installed new NO FIX PLEASE HELP!

EDIT: I TRIED EVERYTHING! EVEN CLEANING UP MY REGISTRY! NOTHING WORKS! I BEG YOU PLEASE HELP! :'(

Deadcode
17 Jul 2007, 20:46
Ag3ntSmith, there is no need to worry. I reproduced your problem on my computer by replacing the English version of "Small Fonts" with the Greek one, and this caused exactly the same graphical glitch in the Weapon Options screen and the same crash in the Host/Join screen.

I then made a modification in W:A to completely bypass the dependence on "Small Fonts" (so it can be nonstandard or even not present) and hard-coded the needed size; and with this workaround, the Weapon Options and Host/Join screens worked perfectly.

Rest assured that your problem will be fixed with the next beta update.

(BTW, fiddling around with DXLayouts .LYT files will have absolutely no effect on W:A v3.5 Beta 1 and later, because I removed all use of those files. Since then, the front end layouts have depended directly on WA.EXE's dialog resources.)

franpa
17 Jul 2007, 23:32
hey yea, so what files are needed in the games rootdirectory? because as you said, not everything in there is used anymore.

Deadcode
18 Jul 2007, 08:08
Required files
LFBMP10N.DLL
LFCMP10N.DLL
LFLMB10N.DLL
LFTGA10N.DLL
LTFIL10N.DLL
LTKRN10N.DLL
WA.EXE

Temporary files / log files (can be removed, but may be recreated automatically)
crash.dmp
custom.dat
custom.img
errorlog.txt
mono.tmp
palette.log
thm*.dat
thumb*.dat
w2.prv

Files no longer used
DirectSound.dll
DirectX2D.dll
DXMfc.dll
Landgen.exe
MFC42.DLL
MSVCRT.DLL

Ag3ntSmith
18 Jul 2007, 09:27
Thank you DeadCode!! Indeed, there is not need to panic.
Btw, my W:A worked with my old HD which i had greek OS too oO.
Anyway thanks! I hope the next patch won't take too long :)

franpa
18 Jul 2007, 10:28
thanks deadcode.

Ag3ntSmith
19 Jul 2007, 13:29
anybody knows WHEN the next beta update will be released :D ?

bonz
19 Jul 2007, 14:46
anybody knows WHEN the next beta update will be released :D ?
In about 18 months.

Ag3ntSmith
19 Jul 2007, 15:50
In about 18 months.

too early ? :eek:

pisto
19 Jul 2007, 17:56
why dont you replace your smallfonts with the english one?

Ag3ntSmith
19 Jul 2007, 19:06
I did. Cybershadow gave me his fonts. Nothing changed anyway. Im doomed
:(

Ag3ntSmith
26 Aug 2007, 15:27
So where's the bugfix? I just want my small fonts fix -.-
I wait 2 months now
And there are more reasons I want to be able to connect WN (I can already connect WN, but without being able to joining/hosting games, it's useless for me)

Don't tell me that DeadCode is abducted by aliens or something because I won't believe it.

P.S: Where is your modification , DeadCode?


p.s2: sorry for double posting but this isn't going to be edited.

bonz
26 Aug 2007, 16:23
Don't tell me that DeadCode is abducted by aliens or something because I won't believe it.
No. He is an alien.
Flying around in a saucer abducting people.

pisto
26 Aug 2007, 21:23
Don't tell me that DeadCode is abducted by aliens or something because I won't believe it.
so Al-Qaeda maybe.

Ag3ntSmith
27 Aug 2007, 09:45
No. He is an alien.
Flying around in a saucer abducting people.

If he 's an alien then why he don't just fix remote my problem?

I HARDLY NEED THE SMALL FONTS FIX

P.S: So the new patch is gonna be 3.6.29.0.
How about releasing a 3.6.28.1 with just small fonts bugfix ?

another topic related to the same problem
http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33248
(and maybe there are more that i haven't found them yet)

...

:(:-/:):confused::eek:

CyberShadow
27 Aug 2007, 11:07
I HARDLY (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hardly) NEED THE SMALL FONTS FIX

:rolleyes:

pisto
27 Aug 2007, 12:07
:rolleyes:
lol

(babble for message lenght)

Ag3ntSmith
29 Aug 2007, 15:33
:rolleyes:


is this all you have to say? :(



p.s: nice deleting my previous post

Ag3ntSmith
9 Sep 2007, 14:13
Anyways i got it work. I copied small fonts from an other computer and now it works. I tried that after seeing that some installers were distorted too and the buttons were unpressable.
Now worms work properly now , so don't bother with my problem anymore.

P.S: Sorry for double post ,but that was not going for edit.

P.S2: Yes i have fixed the problem from 1st septemeber :D but i forgot to reply rofl

franpa
10 Sep 2007, 04:04
yes, the solution you found was kinda obvious but it will still be fixed in a later version to save others from taking such a drastic measure.