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SupSuper
2 Oct 2006, 18:35
On the latest "parents want someone else to do their job" and "politics clearly wanna replace the ESRB", we have Senator Sam Brownback, trying to pass a bill that demands the ESRB must play through games in their entirety, before rating them.

“The current video game ratings system needs improvement,” Brownback said, “because reviewers do not see the full content of games and don’t even play the games they are supposed to rate. For video game ratings to be meaningful and worthy of a parent’s trust, the game ratings must be more objective and accurate.”

Brownback’s measure would mandate the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to administer the requirement for a complete play-through before rating.

“Game reviewers must have access to the entire game for their ratings to accurately reflect a game’s content,” Brownback added.

http://gamepolitics.com/2006/09/27/brownback-proposes-game-ratings-bill-in-senate/

At first this seems all fine and reasonable, but there are big flaws in this train of thought:

1. The ESRB would have to take as much time as QA testers to play through a game to check for everything, which would delay game released tremendously just to get them rated. Even regular gamers can take months to play through really elaborate games.

2. With most games these days, it's impossible (or nearly) to play through their entirety. MMOs, procedurely generated, downloadable content, user-created content (which is the main cause for this whole controversy anyways), random generators, mods, sandbox games, easter eggs, etc. The list goes on and on, and ESRB can't simply check every single piece of content that becomes available. Plus a game's rating would become completely dependent on the user modders, which would probably push most games to M or AO ratings. :p

3. Quit trying to f*** with ESRB, you don't pick on any other content-rating system and they already have it hard enough as it is. :mad:

Xinos
2 Oct 2006, 22:46
I recently gave up on the US all together. The current goverment is ruining their whole country with their one track minds, and gaming is no exception.

What are you Americans going to do about it?

Slick
3 Oct 2006, 01:47
What are you Americans going to do about it?
Send a angry letter to my congressmen. HA!
But accually I'm planing to just ignore them and hope it goes away. Like grandfather. :(

FutureWorm
3 Oct 2006, 01:51
I recently gave up on the US all together. The current goverment is ruining their whole country with their one track minds, and gaming is no exception.

What are you Americans going to do about it?

I'm going to run for office, eventually.

SupSuper
3 Oct 2006, 10:46
I'm going to run for office, eventually.Watch it, it might be contagious. :p

Pigbuster
4 Oct 2006, 02:13
Hey, did you know that the US has passed a bill allowing Bush to decide what is defined as "torture" and that he can now violate parts of the Geneva convention?

WHEE.
Way to glorify our image to the world.

Also, giving health care to everyone is LAME. Letting the medicine companies screw over our elderly is the AMERICAN WAY.

FutureWorm
4 Oct 2006, 04:02
Hey, did you know that the US has passed a bill allowing Bush to decide what is defined as "torture" and that he can now violate parts of the Geneva convention?

WHEE.
Way to glorify our image to the world.

Don't worry, we'll have someone in office in 2008 who will reverse all the crap he did. Hopefully McCain.

philby4000
4 Oct 2006, 09:37
The oven chip?

Xinos
4 Oct 2006, 10:35
Taxpayers pay for hospitals and such, so I can break my legs or get a tumor and enjoy a free visit to the hospital any time I want!

How can america claim to be a nation of freedom when poor people with no money are clearly not free to hurt themselfs?

MrBunsy
4 Oct 2006, 16:56
The oven chip?

Certainly a peice of fried potato would struggle to do a worse job. If I were american I'd vote for a it over Bush!

Anyone know if America has an equivilant to the Monster Raving Loonies?

AndrewTaylor
6 Oct 2006, 12:56
Anyone know if America has an equivilant to the Monster Raving Loonies?

It has two.

Slick
7 Oct 2006, 01:52
Ever stop to consider that Bush is a genius? So far he is the most powerful president in the history of America. Everyone considers him to be an idiot because of somthings he says, and the retarded way of saying it. So everything he does, we just call him an idiot, and by doing that just give him more power by not taking him seriously which in turns allows to take the rights away from the American people in televised speeches.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like the guy, but you have to consider this. OR, maybe he is an idiot, and is just a puppet that is being controled by his cabinet.

<end of what could be an out-of-place rant>

Glenn
7 Oct 2006, 02:16
You forgot one point there Sup.

4. The average reviewer can most likely NOT complete some games, if even be capable of playing them. I guess the best example would be Shinobi/Ninja Gaiden.

MrBunsy
7 Oct 2006, 12:25
OR, maybe he is an idiot, and is just a puppet that is being controled by his cabinet. I think that one is more likely, unfortunatly. I'm not sure anyone's dignity could take the other option.

AndrewTaylor
8 Oct 2006, 09:23
Ever stop to consider that Bush is a genius? So far he is the most powerful president in the history of America. Everyone considers him to be an idiot because of somthings he says, and the retarded way of saying it. So everything he does, we just call him an idiot, and by doing that just give him more power by not taking him seriously which in turns allows to take the rights away from the American people in televised speeches.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like the guy, but you have to consider this. OR, maybe he is an idiot, and is just a puppet that is being controled by his cabinet.

<end of what could be an out-of-place rant>
Or he's an idiot puppet being controlled by other idiots. This seems likely to me, largely because I get most of my information about American politics from Jon Stewart.

Run
8 Oct 2006, 09:26
I think they should just give every single game a "Mature Adult" rating.

It would basically ruin the ratings system to the point where nobody cares about it.

Xinos
8 Oct 2006, 13:08
Or we blow up the headquarters of every rating company.

Don't ask me how that would help, I just think it's a great idea.

AndrewTaylor
8 Oct 2006, 15:54
We'd have to do it in a way that they couldn't blame videogames for.

MtlAngelus
9 Oct 2006, 19:53
Just crash a plane there, they'll blame the terrorists.

philby4000
9 Oct 2006, 20:26
I'm pretty sure they'd blame the terrorist if we used any kind terrorism.

SupSuper
10 Oct 2006, 11:48
More on the "parents simply don't do their job" and "LOL news are fun!!!!11":
http://www.youtube.com/?v=K8hfK3RQs2g

AndrewTaylor
10 Oct 2006, 12:13
Just crash a plane there, they'll blame the terrorists.

Yes. Blowing them up is terrorism either way, technically.