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Plasma
24 Aug 2006, 22:14
There are now officially only 8 planets in our solar system...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5282440.stm

wigwam the
24 Aug 2006, 22:16
my very easy method just remembers...

oh darn it.

Star Worms
24 Aug 2006, 22:49
my very easy method just remembers...

oh darn it.

It's actually "My very easy method just speeds up naming [planets]"

Pluto is still recognised, it's just in a sub catagory now as a dwarf planet.

Alien King
24 Aug 2006, 23:07
Pluto is still recognised, it's just in a sub catagory now as a dwarf planet.

But it is not a major planet (planet).

Paul.Power
24 Aug 2006, 23:15
Not that I wish to sound harsh on Pluto (not that it cares, TBH), this is just as well. It's easier to keep track of eight planets than however many we'd end up with if we kept Pluto in the club.

And the (major) planets split nicely into two groups of four now.

Star Worms
24 Aug 2006, 23:25
But it is not a major planet (planet).

As I said, it is now classed as a dwarf planet.

SupSuper
25 Aug 2006, 02:24
I agree with their decision. Pluto was always the really odd planet in the whole bunch, and I'd rather have to learn about less planets than more.

Pigbuster
25 Aug 2006, 04:17
Aw. Pluto used to be the weenie planet.
I guess that Mercury will have to fill that niche now, but he lives so close to the sun... he's too hardcore to be a proper weenie planet.

Paul.Power
25 Aug 2006, 08:09
Aw. Pluto used to be the weenie planet.
I guess that Mercury will have to fill that niche now, but he lives so close to the sun... he's too hardcore to be a proper weenie planet.In fairness, Mercury is still smaller than Jupiter's largest moon, Ganymede, and Saturns largest moon, Titan.

Solar System Radii Top 20 (measurements in km)

1. Sun 695,000
2. Jupiter 71,492
3. Saturn 60,268
4. Uranus 25,559
5. Neptune 24,766
6. Earth 6,378
7. Venus 6,052
8. Mars 3,397
9. Ganymede (J) 2,634
10. Titan (S) 2,575
11. Mercury 2,440
12. Callisto (J) 2,403
13. Io (J) 1,821
14. Moon (E) 1,738
15. Europa (J) 1,565
16. Triton (N) 1,353
17? 2003 UB313 "Xena" ~1,200
18? Pluto 1,150

... hang on

++++, Wikipedia did my work for me. Here I was, sorting through data, and all that time...

*grumble grumble* link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_system_objects_by_radius

Xinos
25 Aug 2006, 11:01
So long pluto? I thought it was just redefined as a dwarf planet..

wormthingy
25 Aug 2006, 11:12
15. Europa (J) 1,565
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wtf.. isnt that a fairly odd parent reference, europa being another planet?

Alien King
25 Aug 2006, 11:39
So long pluto? I thought it was just redefined as a dwarf planet..

It has, however as the term planet is used for major planetary body, pluto is not a planet.

AndrewTaylor
25 Aug 2006, 12:42
So long pluto? I thought it was just redefined as a dwarf planet..

Well, yes, we've not had it destroyed or anything. That would be ludicrous. But it's not a planet any more. It's a dwarf planet, which is not the same thing, in much the same way that a knuckle sandwich is not the same thing as a sandwich.

wtf.. isnt that a fairly odd parent reference, europa being another planet?

Nobody's saying Europa is a planet. That's just a list of things in the Solar System with large radii. Europa's a moon and still larger than Pluto; that's the point. The Sun is on that list -- that's clearly not a planet.

Cyclaws
25 Aug 2006, 14:32
I bet Pluto's laughing that it got away with such a good status for so long.

Xinos
25 Aug 2006, 15:57
My ego should be classified as a planet.

wigwam the
25 Aug 2006, 16:32
But it's not a planet any more.


surely it never was...

BuffaloKid
25 Aug 2006, 16:46
Does it actually matter what Pluto is?

AndrewTaylor
25 Aug 2006, 18:46
Well, that depends. It matters in that we have to have defintions for words like "planet" or else they're utterly useless words, but it's pretty unlikely to significantly or directly impact on our lives.
surely it never was...
Not by today's definition, no. But it was classified as a planet. The shot's the same but we've moved the goalposts. It was on target, but now it's not.

Preasure
25 Aug 2006, 20:24
Does it actually matter what Pluto is?
Shush. We're having fun here. :p

This is going to mess the rhyme up. Anyone got an alternative one?

BuffaloKid
25 Aug 2006, 20:40
I never knew a rhyme... I just remembered MVEMJSUNP as a word... now it'll be MVEMJSUN

bonz
25 Aug 2006, 21:19
I have always remembered the planets themselves.
(Just like one remembers the alphabet.)
I actually need to think more if I try to say the standard German mnemonic rhyme ("Mein Vater erklärt mir jeden Sonntag unsere neun Planeten").

And yes, you need consistent definitions.
A recent example is across the Rhhine between Switzerland ad Germany which has been built from both sides and a height difference of 54cm occured because those two countries use different mean sea levels (Mediterranean Sea in Marseille and North Sea in Amsterdam respectively).
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/23.29.html#subj6

Actually, they knew of the 27cm difference between those two mean sea levels, but wrongly corrected it, adding another 27cm instead of substracting it.

AndrewTaylor
25 Aug 2006, 22:30
I never knew a rhyme... I just remembered MVEMJSUNP as a word... now it'll be MVEMJSUN
That sounds far harder than just remembering the names of the planets.

This is going to mess the rhyme up. Anyone got an alternative one?
There's a rhyme?

farazparsa
25 Aug 2006, 23:20
XENU KILLED PLUTO!!!! :o:o:o
REPENT! THE END IS NEAR!

I wonder how long it'll be until Uranus gets too small to be a planet.

Alien King
25 Aug 2006, 23:22
XENU KILLED PLUTO!!!!.

Surely Xenu is dead by now. No living being could live for 75 million years.

Or at least is seems improbable.

Paul.Power
25 Aug 2006, 23:28
I wonder how long it'll be until Uranus gets too small to be a planet.Given that Earth would have to be declassified first, it seems unlikely.

Alien King
25 Aug 2006, 23:30
Given that Earth would have to be declassified first, it seems unlikely.

And about half the Solar System.

Monkeyfun
26 Aug 2006, 00:21
Now say

My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Noodles?

My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nunchucks?

My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Ninjas?

My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Necktarines??

bonz
26 Aug 2006, 01:20
I wonder how long it'll be until Uranus gets too small to be a planet.
The very moment the object 07/2004-18430 develops a frontal lobe in his brain.

Star Worms
26 Aug 2006, 01:47
This one wins: "My Very Efficient Monkey Just Sorted Unused Napkins"

Pigbuster
26 Aug 2006, 07:36
Does it actually matter what Pluto is?
Well, it depends. In the future when the average guy goes off in the space-canoe to get at some of those hot Plutonian women, he wouldn't really care if Pluto is a dwarf or whatever.
But to a businessman who wants to purchase some Plutonian acres to start harvesting Pluto-corn, it probably does matter, since he'd be up against the stiff competition of that delicious Moon-corn.

Paul.Power
26 Aug 2006, 09:58
This one wins: "My Very Efficient Monkey Just Sorted Unused Napkins""So, Mr. Vole Eats Many A Juicy Slug Under Ned's Kolrabbi, Okay?"

Not many mnemonics put the Sun, Asteroid Belt, Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud in...

Preasure
26 Aug 2006, 20:40
I didn't know what the Oort cloud was last year, let alone when they teach you the mnemonic (that's what I meant. Goodness knows where I got ryhme from) in primary school. :p ;)

AndrewTaylor
26 Aug 2006, 21:54
There was a letter in The Times today saying that fans of Holst will be pleased by this news. It amused me.

Star Worms
26 Aug 2006, 23:10
"So, Mr. Vole Eats Many A Juicy Slug Under Ned's Kolrabbi, Okay?"

Not many mnemonics put the Sun, Asteroid Belt, Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud in...

"So, My Very Efficient Monkey Andrew Just Sorted Unused Nickel Kitchen Objects"

Plutonic
27 Aug 2006, 22:45
This topic scares me, I keep thinking your talking about me...