The second one is an iBook.

So [it wouldn't be] very useful.
I'm afraid I'll have to kill you now. :p

I'd want to get back sometime before midnightish, preferably, so I'm good untill around 8-9pm.
That works for me.

[And you were there, and you were there... (http://forum.team17.co.uk/showthread.php?p=326964#post326964)]

double post edit:

As we are now one week away from the Get-Together, I'm going to finalise the plan with everyone. If anyone has anything they'd like to check, or suggest, or whatever, then say so now. Or else.

We're meeting by the Point in Milton Keynes, near the entrance which faces towards the shops and that little Bus Stop area. When everyone is there (I will probably be wearing a tee-shirt with a Space Invader on it, and I might bring my ID card frmo work if all else fails) we will go bowling. I've yet to check where the bowling place is. This gives you some idea of just how organised I am.

Then we will have lunch, presumably at somewhere like Pizza Hut, where we will share some pizza and probably not be able to play any games on a laptop.

Then, I don't know, maybe we should wonder about the Shopping Centre, pointing at stuff I can't afford. Unless there is somethnig else we can do. That said, we probably shouldn't do a trmendous amount of walking for reasons I'm not entirely sure I should repeat here.

Then something else happens.

Then we go home.

If this does become an annual thing, I would like to suggest that someone else plans it next year, as I have all the organisational skills of a blind German Shephard.

Sounds fun. Too bad I live all the way up here in Cana-dar :p

Tickets booked. I shoud arrive about half eleven -- I'll find you chaps as quick as I can.

See you Saturday.

you know, i just had this nutty idea of actually going there. why? because now that i checked, i CAN afford to go to UK (it costs 105 Eur going from Lisbon to London). and next week is when my tests end so i have the weekend free.
only problem is... i know NOTHING about UK. nothing, you hear? so unless someone came to pick me up at the airport i'd be lost. i don't know if i'll need a passport (though i don't think so). i know nothing about your weather (well, except that it's usually cold and rainy, it's what we learn in English classes ;)) so i wouldn't know what to wear. i also don't have any english currency. and i'd probably feel really misplaced, a portuguese tourist in the middle of UK.

other than all of that... well, there's chances i might join you guys. though it'd be cheaper if i won a "free trip to UK" but there's no chances of that anytime soon, or later even.

I'm good. Also, it now seems I may be staying at MK the night before, so earliness would = possible.

Also, please do come, Dan!

you know, i just had this nutty idea of actually going there. why? because now that i checked, i CAN afford to go to UK (it costs 105 Eur going from Lisbon to London). and next week is when my tests end so i have the weekend free.
only problem is... i know NOTHING about UK. nothing, you hear? so unless someone came to pick me up at the airport i'd be lost. i don't know if i'll need a passport (though i don't think so). i know nothing about your weather (well, except that it's usually cold and rainy, it's what we learn in English classes ;)) so i wouldn't know what to wear. i also don't have any english currency. and i'd probably feel really misplaced, a portuguese tourist in the middle of UK.

other than all of that... well, there's chances i might join you guys. though it'd be cheaper if i won a "free trip to UK" but there's no chances of that anytime soon, or later even.
We're now about 6 days and some hours away from the Get-Together. If you're able to arrange a plane from Portugal to England (possibly Heathrow) and then transport from there to Milton Keynes, and also somewhere to stay, and a return flight etc. then it would be very nifty to see you there, although I expect you may be jetlagged...!

you know, i just had this nutty idea of actually going there. why? because now that i checked, i CAN afford to go to UK (it costs 105 Eur going from Lisbon to London). and next week is when my tests end so i have the weekend free.
only problem is... i know NOTHING about UK. nothing, you hear? so unless someone came to pick me up at the airport i'd be lost. i don't know if i'll need a passport (though i don't think so). i know nothing about your weather (well, except that it's usually cold and rainy, it's what we learn in English classes ;)) so i wouldn't know what to wear. i also don't have any english currency. and i'd probably feel really misplaced, a portuguese tourist in the middle of UK.

other than all of that... well, there's chances i might join you guys. though it'd be cheaper if i won a "free trip to UK" but there's no chances of that anytime soon, or later even.

You probably will need a passport, even though we're part of the EU.

Weather this time of year is usually quite cold - bring a coat.

You'll need to get some Pounds Sterling, currency-wise, seeing as we haven't given up our currency for the Euro (yet...)

I imagine there are quite a few Portuguese tourists in Milton Keynes ;)

although I expect you may be jetlagged...

I wouldn't have thought so - Portugal is in the same timezone as us, and you only get "jetlagged" when you fly from west to east, usually over a couple of timezones.

I should be arriving in MK Central station at 12:04. I'd have been on the same train as Andrew, but every second one misses out Huddersfield, and he is getting on one of those :/.

Hmm... I'm just working out whether or not it would be worthwhile meeting up at the Station. As a downside, I don't know exactly where the station is, and I wouldn't know how to get anywhere from there if I did.

UPDATE: I am not going. Why?
I just remembered something. I am 15 years old, thus am a minor. Being a minor, I can't travel alone, I can only travel with my parents. And there is no way in hell I am bringing my parents along. I'd rather be squished by a cylinder and having my remains being used to feed many hungry vultures, than having to bring my parents along. And they probably wouldn't want to come either.

Maybe some other year, in some other O.D. Get-together ;)

Hmm... I'm just working out whether or not it would be worthwhile meeting up at the Station.

Sounds like a good idea. I mean, I'll be coming by train, so it makes sense to me. :)

Sounds like a good idea. I mean, I'll be coming by train, so it makes sense to me. :)
I won't, but the station sounds good to me.

I should be arriving in MK Central station at 12:04. I'd have been on the same train as Andrew, but every second one misses out Huddersfield, and he is getting on one of those :/.
You'd be hard pressed to get on the same train as me, as my train is a coach.

Oh, ok. *hides*

Here's what I think we should do: As I have no idea where the Train Station is, why don't those of us who are coming in by train (and not brain, as I almost typed) wait about for Liam, and we can all aim to meet at the Point Entrance by about 12:30.

Heh, everyone waiting for me. I suppose i am pretty recognisable though, long hair and Team17 t-shirt and all :D.

And we know what you look like, thanks to the wonders of the Intarweb.

I would have gone, so meeting me won't be that hard

Orange buzzed hair built and muscle lad wearing his Half Life 2 shirt. :D

I've heard people really wanted me to go and hang with me, after hearing some of the familiar comments was a bit shocked and surprised people actually wanted me to spend company with them.

Really wish I could have gone, maybe the next together I'll join the group

Heh, everyone waiting for me. I suppose i am pretty recognisable though, long hair and Team17 t-shirt and all :D.
Well, that and some of us have met you. That'll probably help.

How many of us have actually met Liam now?

At a guess, three.

Incidentally, I'd like to apologise in advance for anyone I infect with my cold bug thing, althoguh hopefully it will have cleared up by then. I'd also like to point out that although I'm not going to have a fantastic amount of money (I'll be lucky if I have about £30 on me) please don't take this as indication that I am rubbish at handling cash - I think you're all aware of how craptacular my past employment year has been.

How many of us have actually met Liam now?
I don't know. I have lost track of who's coming to this thing.

How many of us have actually met Liam now?

Well, I know I haven't met him :p

ncidentally, I'd like to apologise in advance for anyone I infect with my cold bug thing

Let's hope you don't. I've had one cold after another for a number of months now, I don't want to catch another one just when I seem to be okay. But yeah, I hope you feel better before Saturday.

Incidentally, on Friday night when I update Fried, i will be using the atatched avatar and will continue to use it until Sunday morning. Anyone else who wants to join in, feel free.

How many of us have actually met Liam now?Just you, Andrew and Alex i think.

Incidentally, on Friday night when I update Fried, i will be using the atatched avatar and will continue to use it until Sunday morning. Anyone else who wants to join in, feel free.
If we all do that it will confuse the hell out of the... we need a name for non-ODer's. Something we can use in front of them and they won't realise. Something like... er... nope, I don't know. But we need one. I'll try and put that avatar up this afternoon before I leave Uni.

If we all do that it will confuse the hell out of the... we need a name for non-ODer's.outsiders? ;)

also, why would it confuse them. i doubt they really care why you went bowling and didn't announce it to the whole forum :p
it's not like the forum needs to know everything its members do. if some members went bowling together, they don't need to know when or how that was settled.

outsiders? ;)

also, why would it confuse them.
They get confused easily. All we have to do is put the same thing in our signatures and they start copying it and wondering what it means (which is a dumb combination, if you ask me). I think it's short life would be the strangest part - there've been avatar trends before, but never a 48-hour one (though I don't think I could have it up for less that 65 hours --edit: so to speak).

I know this a bit sudden, but I have a bit of bad news.

Can't make it :(

Through a number of reasons (distance, money, other things happening, too many gigs coming up, and a few more) I've had to agree to not come. Otherwise, I could do nothing else all year. If I had a job, it'd be fine. If it was closer, it'd be fine. If I could drive, it'd be fine.

But it ain't! Sorry everyone, I'll make it to the next one. I'm arranging it. It's in Newcastle ;)

Right, Amy and I have our travel arrangements sorted and, in a sparkling turn of events, also know where the bowling place is. WHich is nice. Apparently it's in that nice big slopey building that is visible from the Point where we are meeting (pun intended) so there we go. There are also other things to do in there so the activities need not end with bowling before the Pizza stuff.

Also, as previously stated, Amy and I will have £33 between us. Once again I must apologise for our unforseen financial state which is a combination of me being hired and fired three times this year, and also I don't get paid for this month's work until the end of the month. A combination of doign some work for a chairty and begging for money (and asking to borrow money from people, which is essentially the same thing) has managed to rake us in a little bit of dosh. So don't be surprised if we don't spend an awful lot.

Next year things should be different because not only will I have stable pay, but also someone else will be arranging everything. Hopefully.

Sorry to hear you can't make it, Betong. We'll take many pictures.

Who all will be going, then?

AndrewTaylor, Paul.Power (possibly, we've heard nothing from hmi at all), Pooka, Worm Mad, M3ntal and SargeMcCluck. I will, of course, be fighting off an instictive urge to refer to each of these people by their Usernames but in the case of Paul and Andrew this won't really be a problem.

I also contacted THomasp recently but unfortunately he can't make it, and I sent Babylon a PM (and spoke to him on MSN too) but it doesn't look like he's coming either.

I also contacted THomasp recently but unfortunately he can't make it, .

Yeah, sorry about that :(

I'd like to come, but I barely have enough free time to browse the forum atm :(

Once again, I'm really sorry that I can't come, but I'm in the States and simply not old enough to get there myself.

we need a name for non-ODer's. Something we can use in front of them and they won't realise. Something like... er... nope, I don't know. But we need one.

"Mortals".

Me: ERK ERK ERK
Me: Er..
Me: I just realised...
Me: I didn't post my update on the OD meetup thing
Run: hmm? update?
Me: I don't have the money to go
Me: I thought I posted saying that
Run: ..ah.
Me: But I just noticed I havn't, and I got a text message from Liam saying he'd meet me at the Point at 12
Me: So they're probably wondering where the hell I am D:


So, uh, yeah. Millions of apologies, I honestly thought I'd posted saying I couldn't come, and then I stopped reading the thread because I was annoyed that I wouldn't be able to make it.
Hope it's been/is being good though. D:

Are you sure that's you, Sarge? Because Ben distinctly admitted to having killed you. ;)

Seriously though, it's a shame you couldn't make it, it was fun. (more info soon)

Well Amy and I just got back in through the door and we can both hoenstly say that we well and truly enjoyed ourselves. We didn't do an awful much other than look for the bowling place, have a brief poke-around in the market and buy Worms Forts: Under Siege (well, Liam and Andrew did - I'm hoping to get ti for Christmas as I am terminally broke still). But it was most definitely a good laugh and I'm sure all five of us are in agreement that we are definitely looking forward to a (much better organised) Get-Together next year.

Incidentally Amy and I will be moving into our own little flat thingy in January/February and we will be having a House Warming Party, so those of you who are willing and able to turn up for that (and potentially crashing at our place overnight if need be) are invited. More details once we actually know where we're going...!

Pictures, and a report/article/thing will be hopefully popping up at Dream17 tomorrow along with the new Softography+ :)

Now can someone else organise next year's Get-Together, please?

btw AT, no1 asked about the "Gone Bowling" avatars, so i win :p

Yeh, that was ace. Definately have to do it again. Shame we didn't get much time to go through all the various computer related goodies, but that "Rubbish" will have me chuckling for days. Maybe weeks. It certainly beats the 7 ft tall snow ***** for comedy value.

Alex - you suck :(.

I'm willing to let Alex off... it's a mistake any of us could've made. It did leave us wondering if he'd gone to an Internet café to post about how he was lost in Milton Keynes and asking if the whole thing was a big joke designed to set him up...

Incidentally, Dream17 should recieve a (minor) update today including photos and an article about yesterday. Which is good.

Now can someone else organise next year's Get-Together, please?

Will do

And that is where, Ev comes in

I'm planning to do the get together in North America, either Where my residence is or somewhere in the states. I know that Zero and K^2 live in America, and MFAH and I live in Canada, so there's four people right there (if they don't mind doing this) I'm planning of having us play Mario Kart: DD, go to Burger King for lunch, head to the mall to deplete time and maybe a movie, you know typical teenage/adult stuff. Don't get me wrong UK'ers are welcomed as well, but you might not be able to make it, Worm Mad told me he can't come, which is a shame. Any other American forumers are welcomed too.

And yes, pictures will be taken.

I can only go if it's in southern California.

The problem with a western get-together is that North America is so huge and we're so spread apart. Britain is pretty small, but here we'd have to have people flying long distances. I don't think our population is dense enough. Let's take a look:

Me: south west coast
Zeor: east coast
Pikkul: east coast
Munkee: north west coast
K^2: Ohio
Ev: Somewhere in Canada (Ontario?)
Rambo: Somewhere in Canada
Angelus: north east Mexico

I'm sure there are more who live here, but that doesn't change my point - we're all far away from each other. Only a few people could make it.

But don't get me wrong - it'd be cool to have one, but it doesn't seem like it'd work so well.

I reckon next years should be held in Huddersfield or Leeds.

Just because M3ntal will probably still be there, I'll probably be there, and AndrewTaylor will be there. And that's 50% of the people that will probably show up :D

Well, I was planning of hosting the next one, here in London. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Well, I was planning of hosting the next one, here in London. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

I was partially kidding ;)

double post edit:

Incidentally, Dream17 should recieve a (minor) update today including photos and an article about yesterday. Which is good.

YOU LIE! I see no update (about this), 5 minutes to go!

I can only go if it's in southern California.

The problem with a western get-together is that North America is so huge and we're so spread apart. Britain is pretty small, but here we'd have to have people flying long distances. I don't think our population is dense enough. Let's take a look:

Me: south west coast
Zeor: east coast
Pikkul: east coast
Munkee: north west coast
K^2: Ohio
Ev: Somewhere in Canada (Ontario?)
Rambo: Somewhere in Canada
Angelus: north east Mexico

I'm sure there are more who live here, but that doesn't change my point - we're all far away from each other. Only a few people could make it.

But don't get me wrong - it'd be cool to have one, but it doesn't seem like it'd work so well.

I would like to go, but the only way I could go is if it were in my city, which won't happen. And even so, I think my parents would look at me funny if I asked them if I can go hang out with people I met online.:-/

Looks like Toronto atm. So how many people can make it to Toronto?

Looks like Toronto atm. So how many people can make it to Toronto?

I can :p

But am looking forward to this

I and Kon had a long discussion over MSN Messenger about this get together, and at the moment 3 forumers will be attending the Toronto visit.

The date of this we planned on is of spring 2005 but a sooner date might be available.

Toronto is way too far for me...

Toronto is way too far for me...

Same here. And there is also the fact that I don't have time, money, or permission. Oh well. If you guys are still here in 2 years, there will be a bigger chance since I will be 18 and free.:p

I wouldn't have a problem with it being in the South West, I can drive to pretty much anywhere on this continent, but then it would be too far for most of the people here, in the North East. Someone needs to buy a private jet.

Well, I was planning of hosting the next one, here in London. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.
NO!

Not another one in the south!!

Not another one in the south!!

Come on, it's the capital. Everyone can get to the capital.

And anyway, you didn't even come to the last one, so why are you complaining?

Seriously though, I thought MK was too far up north. I want something a bit more to the south, myself.

Hm, a spring thing in Toronto? Ask me again in three or four years. :p

Come on, it's the capital. Everyone can get to the capital.

And anyway, you didn't even come to the last one, so why are you complaining?

Seriously though, I thought MK was too far up north. I want something a bit more to the south, myself.
He didn't come because it was too far away, he lives in Gateshead. It took me about four hours to get to MK, and Betong is at least another 2 hours North of me. I think it makes sense to have the next one somewhere up here because me and Andrew are already here, Alex was planning on visiting me anyway, and Betong would find it easier to get to. Also, Team17 are here, we could try and nag them to let us visit ;).

He didn't come because it was too far away, he lives in Gateshead. It took me about four hours to get to MK, and Betong is at least another 2 hours North of me. I think it makes sense to have the next one somewhere up here because me and Andrew are already here, Alex was planning on visiting me anyway, and Betong would find it easier to get to. Also, Team17 are here, we could try and nag them to let us visit ;).

Hell, have the next one any time after September next year and I'll be *living* near you, probably. :p

Hm, a spring thing in Toronto? Ask me again in three or four years. :p

Will do, I'll be around this forum still :p

I'm still hoping for the mini Toronto get together. FatWhitey, K^2, and Zero that is if no one else could attend. Think of this get together as the North American version

Will do, I'll be around this forum still :p

I'm still hoping for the mini Toronto get together. FatWhitey, K^2, and Zero that is if no one else could attend. Think of this get together as the North American version
I'd really love to go, but lack of transportation + lack of permission = bad.

We should probably close this thread and set up two new ones: OD Get-Together 2005 UK and OD-Get-Together 2005 US/Canada.

Also, I only just got access to the internet again. Dream17 will be updated this week.

If I could drive, it'd be fine.Ooh that reminds me - my driving licence came a couple of days ago. If there's another next year, depending on the day and whether or not I pass quickly, then I *may* be able to go.

I'd really love to go, but lack of transportation + lack of permission = bad.
How old are you and where do you live?

How old are you and where do you live?
14 / USA.

Right, I say we have a quick vote, those in the UK. And be reasonable. I say we have it in Yorkshire, for reasons of closerness and Team17.

They couldn't turn us away if we all turn up on their doorstep, can they? ;)

Right, I say we have a quick vote, those in the UK. And be reasonable. I say we have it in Yorkshire, for reasons of closerness and Team17.

They couldn't turn us away if we all turn up on their doorstep, can they? ;)

They could just leave the door closed. And it's secure, with a keypad and everything, so opening it is impossible without them. ;)

NEVAR!!

Seriously though, d'you reckon we could get a tour?

NEVAR!!

Seriously though, d'you reckon we could get a tour?

Iunno. Depends how far through they are in the development process when it happens I'd assume.

14
That does complicate things.
[QUOTE=FutureWorm]USA.
I meant a little more specific, like what state it is, or some other info that can give us an idea of how far from Toronto it is.

Iunno. Depends how far through they are in the development process when it happens I'd assume.
Good point. Admittedly Yorkshire is a bit out of Amy and my way, but with the right planning-aheadedness (which, if Euan, Andrew and Liam remember correctly, is not my strong point) we may be able to make it...

Even though you may think everyone can get to London because it is the capital, it would actually be very hard to find the right place without getting lost.

If there is one then I'd prefer it in the South West but I understand that then some of you wouldn't be able to get there (Betong). Yorkshire sounds good to me, I know my way around some parts anyway.

Good point. Admittedly Yorkshire is a bit out of Amy and my way, but with the right planning-aheadedness (which, if Euan, Andrew and Liam remember correctly, is not my strong point) we may be able to make it...Come on Ben, if me and Andrew can make the journey to your turf, you can make it to ours ;).

Come on Ben, if me and Andrew can make the journey to your turf, you can make it to ours ;).
Query: "Turf"? Why?

But yeah, sure, why not?

I meant a little more specific, like what state it is, or some other info that can give us an idea of how far from Toronto it is.
Western Michigan.

I may or may not come to a get-together in Yorkshire. Probably not, but we'll see.

well, if i can make it to the next O.D. get-together, the place closest to an airport would be the best for me ;)
though i'll probably be lost as soon as i land. or freak out, whichever comes first. never been to UK, you know :p

There's many airports. Leeds has an airport. AndrewTaylor lives in Leeds. Huddersfield is very very very close to Leeds. So you'd be fine.

There's many airports. Leeds has an airport. AndrewTaylor lives in Leeds. Huddersfield is very very very close to Leeds. So you'd be fine.Huddersfield is half way between Leeds and Manchester, which also has an airport.

Huddersfield is half way between Leeds and Manchester, which also has an airport.Isn't it the same airport?

Has anyone created a webpage with pictures from the event?

Not that I'm aware of. I think Ben might be putting some photos on the Dream17 site on Friday, though.

Western Michigan.
That isn't very far from Toronto. Sure you don't know anyone who'd be able to drive there?

That isn't very far from Toronto. Sure you don't know anyone who'd be able to drive there?
Even if I did, or alternately chose to take the bus, my parents would likely notice me missing for an entire day.

Not that I'm aware of. I think Ben might be putting some photos on the Dream17 site on Friday, though.
THAT = TRUE

Isn't it the same airport?
Nope, there's Manchester Airport and Leeds/Bradford Airport.

THAT = TRUE

Fridays suck! Do it NOW! Or as close to NOW! as is possible!
Like... NOW?
NOW!

Go on Ben! NOW!

Toronto

Are you still in agreement as to which we will still plan this Toronto get together?

I really think you should start a new thread for that.

Are you still in agreement as to which we will still plan this Toronto get together?
Unless someone has a better suggestion. I can certainly go anywhere within 10 hours, or roughly 600 miles, of Cleveland. Anything beyond that is questionable. I don't really want to have to stop for night anywhere in between.

Did we ever tell you about the Scary Guy on the coach back to Leeds? He was scary.

Me and M3ntal were discussing web design and how nobody seems to be able to do it for toffee, and he leans over from the next-but-one seat and says he couldn't help overhearing us and he may have some software we might be interested in. He said it like it was drugs. He wouldn't tell us what it was or why we might be interested. Just got increasingly shady and suspect until we decided to decline his rather scary offer and ignore him.

He might have been one of microsoft undercover guys trying to sell you Frontpage or something

After what we'd been saying? he'd have had to be one of those stupid Microsoft undercover guys then.

Did we ever tell you about the Scary Guy on the coach back to Leeds? He was scary.

Me and M3ntal were discussing web design and how nobody seems to be able to do it for toffee, and he leans over from the next-but-one seat and says he couldn't help overhearing us and he may have some software we might be interested in. He said it like it was drugs. He wouldn't tell us what it was or why we might be interested. Just got increasingly shady and suspect until we decided to decline his rather scary offer and ignore him.Heh, yeah, that was well creepy. I quizzed the guy about this "software" and he was extremely vague about it, said he didn't have it on him but it was back on his home machine (in Prague) and if i gave him my email address he'd get in touch. I felt like i was being headhunted by the KGB or something.

Was it kind of like this (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-02-06&res=l)?

Bus Coach uy Man sounds creepy. The worst thing Amy and I got when we got on the bus was some obnoxious kids, but they seem to stick to us like moths to a magnet.

Anyway, anyone who wants to see photos and read things can [click here (http://wormiverse.com/dream17/miscstuff_artcles_04.html)].

Bus Coach uy Man sounds creepy. The worst thing Amy and I got when we got on the bus was some obnoxious kids, but they seem to stick to us like moths to a magnet.

Anyway, anyone who wants to see photos and read things can [click here (http://wormiverse.com/dream17/miscstuff_artcles_04.html)].tried to open the zip file with all the photos, but i get "! C:\MyDownloads\allphotos_full.zip: Unexpected end of archive"

also, is it me or do all you guys look alike?

I see you had fun there
btw, I got the same error when trying to open the zip file :-/
also, is it me or do all you guys look alike?
All british people look alike
:p

Bus Coach uy Man sounds creepy. The worst thing Amy and I got when we got on the bus was some obnoxious kids, but they seem to stick to us like moths to a magnet.

Anyway, anyone who wants to see photos and read things can [click here (http://wormiverse.com/dream17/miscstuff_artcles_04.html)].

Hoooooooray.

DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

The Milton Keynes Committe must be on to us!

If you look at the photo of the map, you'll find Milton Keynes is marked on it. But it definitely wasn't at the time, so they must have hacked into your digital camera somehow.

Oh dear.

Also,I'm going to re-upload the ZIP file. It worked fine, however my FTP software (SmartFTP) is notoriously bad at half-uploading files, or completely ignoring to upload them at all.

Even if I did, or alternately chose to take the bus, my parents would likely notice me missing for an entire day.
But you're so CLOSE!

I'd go, but look at how far I'd have to go:

Bus Coach uy Man sounds creepy. The worst thing Amy and I got when we got on the bus was some obnoxious kids, but they seem to stick to us like moths to a magnet.
Moths to magnet? :rolleyes: You need some practice using similes.

double post edit:

I'd go, but look at how far I'd have to go:
A Cessna one engine plane would need two re-fueling landings to get there, and it would take about 15 hours of flight and nearly 300 galons of fuel.

But you're so CLOSE!

I'd go, but look at how far I'd have to go:

On the good side, you live very near to Deadcode! ;)

Moths to magnet? :rolleyes: You need some practice using similes.
It's a reference to the book "Third Rock From The Sun: The Report" which has some funny nuggets of misinformation in it, such as the Appendix secreting a chemical vital to the function of the brain, and also other things.

The Toronto get together I'll be wearing this tee: http://prodtn.cafepress.com/2/6406552_F_tn.jpg :p

Do you think if we destroy The Point all the other buildings connected to it will fall down?

Let's find out!

No, we need to build a doughnut formation of other commercial buildings around it so it becomes a C-Top ;).

lol.
In comparison, Euan looks phenomenally young :)

There was a tmie when The Point was filled with interesting things. Now all it contains is a Pub that refuses to accept standard forms of ID as standard forms of ID, a Dance Dance Revolution Machine, and a set of Disabled Toilets which no one can use because they're roped off.

The Point is the only building in MK that DAREZ TO BE DIFFERNT.

Looked fun. Probably wouldnt have been spoiled by a 13 year old kid tho' :p

There was a tmie when The Point was filled with interesting things. Now all it contains is a Pub that refuses to accept standard forms of ID as standard forms of ID, a Dance Dance Revolution Machine, and a set of Disabled Toilets which no one can use because they're roped off.

The Point is the only building in MK that DAREZ TO BE DIFFERNT.
That pub also requires anyone they consider looks under 21 to provide their specific forms of ID to proove they're 18 in order to purchase soft drinks. Go figure.

I thought UK drinking age was 18.

proove
That's almost as bad as 'loose'

GET OUT.

I thought UK drinking age was 18.
It is, but only for alcohol. We're allowed to drink soft drinks from the day we're born (but obviously the likes of Coca Cola aren't reccomended for newborn infants).
That's almost as bad as 'loose'
Nuts to that. "Proove" isn't already a word and at least I know it's wrong. Actually, it felt wrong as I typed it, but I glanced up and spotted all the right letters in the right order and didn't give it a second thought. I guess that'd be why.
GET OUT.You get out.

It is, but only for alcohol. We're allowed to drink soft drinks from the day we're born (but obviously the likes of Coca Cola aren't reccomended for newborn infants.

Well. It's not always 18. For example, you can drink wine with a meal when you're 16. Etc.

That pub also requires anyone they consider looks under 21 to provide their specific forms of ID to proove they're 18 in order to purchase soft drinks. Go figure.I am 23 and they wouldn't serve me.

Apparently the rather gaunt (from what I remember the word means) chap behind the bar thought you looked good for it, then, because that's the posted rule. Anyone who doens't look 21 has to prove they're 18 to buy lemonade. That's no way to run a business.

And the bar. Was. Empty.

There was us, and a guy who was 55 if he was a day (and doubtless had ID to prove it) and the probably-gaunt chap. And nobody else at all. If he'd served us, who would know, and having found out, care? Frankly I think Ben should pop back to that place in a week or two to see if it's still in business.

It is, but only for alcohol. We're allowed to drink soft drinks from the day we're born (but obviously the likes of Coca Cola aren't reccomended for newborn infants).You can legally drink alcohol, with your parents permission from the age of 5. You're just not allowed to purchace any until you are 18 (or 16 if you include buying a drink with a meal).

I know all this. Stop telling me.

I think I just missread the whole thing. Sorry about starting a debate over nothing.

Is it just me or did the Barman personage look about 17? I should've gotten a photo.

I've got $356 on round-trip from Philadelphia to London through Detroit (although I do have to wonder, why Detroit?), assuming that you'll be staying for eight days in late November. http://travel.priceline.com/travel/airlines/lang/en-us/fare_results_bk.asp?session_key=410011AC420011AC20 0408301730151d2401200336&plf=pcln&path=cfe
It'd cost extra to get there from your local airport though; you might want to tack on $150 as an estimate.
i now find this post fascinating because airfare has doubled in the past four years